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do you guys think there will be a windows phone 7 rom for the HTC inspire?
tizzl10 said:
do you guys think there will be a windows phone 7 rom for the HTC inspire?
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Why?
Why? Why? Why?!!!
If you want Windows Mobile with a 4.3" screen get the HTC HD2 or the HD7.
Why not?
As far as i know none of those phones support AT&T 3G or even less 4G. Would be pretty awesome.
I have an HD2 that can run 6.5, 7, or Android it is a Telstra version so it gets ATT 3g in many areas just Google ATT 3g 850 map and see if you're in their area. If you're interested I'm selling it.
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cursordroid said:
Why?
Why? Why? Why?!!!
If you want Windows Mobile with a 4.3" screen get the HTC HD2 or the HD7.
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To prove it can be done
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Ya I would spend hours doing something just to prove it could be done
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i'm rather curious about the possibilities as well coz the phone is sweet on it's own (despite the fact it has to run Android out of the box) and the 3G/4G incentive would be a fantastic Windows-based alternative for this configuration/design... just sayin' ('',)
While I can respect the desire to try something completely silly like this just to see if it can be done, you should expect that you may, and very probably will, brick your phone. Unlike Android, the code for Windows is not just out there. Putting Windows on a device it isn't certified for will likely fail because you won't have a proper set of drivers for the device. But I have tried silly things like this in the past with Linux putting it on devices it wasn't intended for with some success and the fun is sometimes all that matters.
I can't think of a single compelling reason I would want windows mobile on any phone I ever get unless they suddenly come up with a good blend of business and enthusiast features with WM7 doesn't seem to offer, but to each their own.
If you're interested, this might be fun. Not a rom, and not the same. But interesting.
Hmph. It's called Launcher7. I'd link you to it, but the forums don't want me to. It's in the Market.
I am interested... how much is your telstra phone?
Why is this silly? It's all part of the hacking/modding experience.
Silas0220 said:
If you're interested, this might be fun. Not a rom, and not the same. But interesting.
Hmph. It's called Launcher7. I'd link you to it, but the forums don't want me to. It's in the Market.
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I installed Launcher 7 on my Inspire. It's surprisingly pretty decent. It's free, so there's no risk involved.
if the iPhone can run iOS and android with a loader on boot, why would it be so hard to make it for an inspire? way more open then ios development.
I want this too as did a bunch of nexus one users, there's already a thread about it over there. But the answer is no, it isn't gonna happen as there are no drivers, windows phone is closed and can't get ported.
I really want to do this. please help if you can thanks..
Unfortunately this will not be possible as WP7 does not support the process in the Desire HD.
Someone would have to write the driver for chipset, which is highly unlikely to happen.
MS are supposed to be releasing a new spec for WP7 (probably at MIX) and it is possible that the new spec will include support for the same chipset as the Desire HD uses but until that happens, not possible
I have the normal Desire, and GSMareana is telling me that the Htc Mozart, Has the same chip set and all the specs are like the same apart from the OS...
AndoidDean said:
I have the normal Desire, and GSMareana is telling me that the Htc Mozart, Has the same chip set and all the specs are like the same apart from the OS...
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No means no. I've got 1USD and its the same value as 1AUD, can i use it in australia? No. Just because 2 things are intrinsically the same they may be extrinsically different. Sorry man.
The Desire has exactly the same hardware as any WP7 device. In theory it could run WP7. The proof is the HTC HD2 which runs WP7. However somebody has to write a new bootloader and port WP7 as was the case with the HD2.
Anyone know what OS's I can port on my Htc Desire?
None at the moment and probably forever. There are only 2 phones in the world that can run miltiple OS's - The HD2 (WM6.5, Android, WP7 and probably MeeGo in the near future) and Nokia N900 (Maemo and Android). Of course some other HTC WinMo devices can run Android off the SD card but that's not a complete OS change because after reboot you are back in WinMo.
Just download launcher 7
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Technically, if someone (or a group of developers) were to put down the effort, this could be possible. However, you have to keep in mind, most developers here work on their free time, and their lives are not dedicated to developing custom drivers and firmwares for all possible hardware. There has to be interest, and once there is, progress will follow. For now, there is no interest. Perhaps you could start something yourself OP.
i tell you how to get wp7, sell your desire, and buy wp7!
hallo
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hallo
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hi??? lol...........
S-off & rooted, next step dual boot wp7 & android (WP7 Development Section)
So... Any developers out there willing to create a WP7 ROM for the HTC Sensation? Just making a note of the possibilities for this "Next Generation HD2"
No WP7 Development Section?
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This has already been suggested and is very unlikely to happen (not to say impossible)... the hd2 has the same cpu and the same hardware as other wp7 phones, it is totally closed source so the gpu on the qualcom has no drivers available at all, then theres the rest like bt stack. mic etc... its hard enough porting open source android to old 528mhz qualcom phones never mind a closed source os!
I would like to see it happen just for the proof of concept but i know how hard it is writing drivers with the I/O specs sheets so dont hold out much hope ;-D
I don't know if this is possible. The HD2 was a 'special case' as the stock OS was WM6.5. This a base for installing WP7, as the base OS for WM6.5 and WP7 are generally the same, as I understand it. This means that WP7 could be ported to the HD2, as it didn't need all the drivers and stuff.
But with the Sensation, WM6.5 was not the stock OS, of course. So if we wanted to get WP7 on the Sensation, we'd need to create drivers for it , which if at all possible would be a long and laborious process, as WP7 is not open source, as Android is.
Having said that, I'd love it if someone could prove me wrong and we could get a WP7 port up and running
Won't happen. Dual core processor is not supported in WP7
Waiting for "Windows Mobile 6.5.5" in Sensation...
anarchyuk said:
This has already been suggested and is very unlikely to happen (not to say impossible)... the hd2 has the same cpu and the same hardware as other wp7 phones, it is totally closed source so the gpu on the qualcom has no drivers available at all, then theres the rest like bt stack. mic etc... its hard enough porting open source android to old 528mhz qualcom phones never mind a closed source os!
I would like to see it happen just for the proof of concept but i know how hard it is writing drivers with the I/O specs sheets so dont hold out much hope ;-D
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I think I will soon scrap the sensation and get the ultimate device - HD2 - android, winmo, meego, ubuntu linux.
freakzone said:
I think I will soon scrap the sensation and get the ultimate device - HD2 - android, winmo, meego, ubuntu linux.
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Ultimate device? You can't be serious.....
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the HD2 is a fun toy when compared to the sensation, believe me i loved mine, had to sell it, and now im getting another one just to use as a PDA
will be running NAND sense3.0 (but prolly flashing a new one every week ), SD build honeycomb and ubuntu 10.10 off sd thru nandroid
but in this day, its just a toy that set A LOT of standards for the devs/users here
WP7 on a non licensed device WILL cause legal issues. Good luck on your endeavours.
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WP7 on a non licensed device WILL cause legal issues. Good luck on your endeavours.
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I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
freakzone said:
I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
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Not at all. You can buy the license for Windows 7 and install it, can't buy WP7.
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Not at all. You can buy the license for Windows 7 and install it, can't buy WP7.
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Yes, the point is that with the HD2 you buy winmo 6.5 licence and not winmo 7, as soon as you install winmo 7 without buying it (not that you can, but theoretically) you're still a pirate.
I don't think that the dev community is interested in that anyway.
What about ubuntu linux then? Can we have that?
Open source is legal.
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I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
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Yes they are similar. You are licensed to use one one thing on a specific device and if you don't purchase a new license for the newer Windows then you are pirating.
For Ubuntu that's a different type of licensing altogether. Its open source and you have the rights to modify the code to make it work and in return you have to contribute the code.
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I understand the difference between open/proprietary source code and the fact that you need to pay for an os/software.
There are a lot of linux distros which are paid.
Imo there is not much difference between running wp7 on a hd2 or on a sensation. Both ways it is supposedly illegal, however the HD2 users get away with it easily.
If you guys remember when Da_g was posting the latest builds of winmo, some of them were taken down because of a request from microsoft. Nothing happened except for the removal of some links from the site.
So to the point, lets say that someone can supposedly buy a copy of winmo 7, then what?
My desktop experience would lead me to believe I need a virtual machine. The dual-core sensation should be enough to run it. Then a lot of stuff will not be working, such as phone, wifi, bt and a whole lot more but we need to start somewhere . That's how they started porting android to winmo devices - nothing was working in the begining
Ubuntu for example is Open Source and anything you pay for is technical support. DBM is rewritten beyond that of GPL which you have to license to use(See OSX vs. Hakitosh). Hakintosh lost not because Apple is a large company. They lost because they broke the licensing agreement and distributed perprietary code.
So yes it is wrong to distribute certain types of Linux distros. Yes it is wrong to port Windows phone 7 to another device that isn't licensed for it. It's one of the reasons Android is popular. Their only downfall will be fragmentation and getting companies like MS, Sony, Blizzard, etc to develop their popular software for it.
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Win7 was ported very easily to HTC HD2 because of other Win7 Phones that are extremely similar to the HD2 (Ex: HD7).
So if HTC releases a Win7 Phone that is very similar to the Sensation, then there will be hope of porting Win7 to the Sensation.
I personally would love to see Mango on the Sensation. Win7 has potential.
However, there will be issues. You will not have access to the marketplace (No apps ) nor to Windows live services. There are ways around it, but are not usually easy or convenient.
So I was wondering what is so special about the hd2 that it can run android, wm, wp7, ubuntu and meego. I love android, and but I would like to try out wp7
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yerand said:
So I was wondering what is so special about the hd2 that it can run android, wm, wp7, ubuntu and meego. I love android, and but I would like to try out wp7
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You listed the reasons why people like HD2, it's development it amazing and the phone is nice to use...And the Sensation or any Android won't be getting WP7, Winmo or any closed source projects. Publicly porting WP7 is illegal and Microsoft or whoever will send the dev a cease & desist letter or email. You are not allowed to port Windows ROMs to non windows phone(Android, iOS,etc).
Ace42 said:
You listed the reasons why people like HD2, it's development it amazing and the phone is nice to use...And the Sensation or any Android won't be getting WP7, Winmo or any closed source projects. Publicly porting WP7 is illegal and Microsoft or whoever will send the dev a cease & desist letter or email. You are not allowed to port Windows ROMs to non windows phone(Android, iOS,etc).
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So how did the HD2 get it, that is not running Windows Phone 7?
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So how did the HD2 get it, that is not running Windows Phone 7?
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Its a windows phone, by default it comes with Windows Mobile 6.5.
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Joshhedge said:
So how did the HD2 get it, that is not running Windows Phone 7?
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Chilled26 said:
Its a windows phone, by default it comes Windows Mobile 6.5.
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This...This one feature allows it to use any Microsoft ROM, any Linux relatives(Android, unbuntu,etc) are open so HD2 can use them. WebOS & iOS are two that we won't be ported to other phones.
Ace42 said:
This...This one feature allows it to use any Microsoft ROM, any Linux relatives(Android, unbuntu,etc) are open so HD2 can use them. WebOS & iOS are two that we won't be ported to other phones.
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Exactly, I always have my HD2 as my wp7 phone or backup phone .
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My sister has one, but she keeps it TMOUS stock. So boring, lol.
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Ace42 said:
You listed the reasons why people like HD2, it's development it amazing and the phone is nice to use...And the Sensation or any Android won't be getting WP7, Winmo or any closed source projects. Publicly porting WP7 is illegal and Microsoft or whoever will send the dev a cease & desist letter or email. You are not allowed to port Windows ROMs to non windows phone(Android, iOS,etc).
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So technically there is no hardware limitation stopping someone from porting wp7 to the sensation... just microsoft's lawyers? :/
yerand said:
So technically there is no hardware limitation stopping someone from porting wp7 to the sensation... just microsoft's lawyers? :/
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There is also the qhd screen, wp7 only supports 800x480.
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gonintendo said:
There is also the qhd screen, wp7 only supports 800x480.
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And it only currently supports only single core phone.
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My HD2 finally went out on me. The touchscreen no longer works.
I have never been so sad about a phone ever.
Don't know if I'll get it fixed.
It was an amazing phone.
I flashed so many roms with it.
It started all this craziness for me.
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What is so special about the HD2, is the ability to run so many dif roms/ports. It is a devs dream phone to work with. It is also very easy to flash rom/radios onto. It is so easy even I did it several times with mine, and I am really stup-it when it comes to stuff like that.
The phone has its quirks.. but overall it is a great phone. I had mine for 3 years before I sold it ($350. thats more then I paid for it new BTW) and never had a single problem with it. I would still have it if not for the Sensation.
It really is to bad that wp7 had to ruin the run/development of win op platform. There are so many possibilities still to be developed for it. Take a look at the HD2 forums and it is amazing what they have done and continue to do with that op system.
Ok then how about HTC Wizard? I have mine now...and the battery still keep alive about 4 hours...
Mine is Qtek branded - basically HTC's commercial brand in those times...
Remember that Wizard has started with WM5 and they put even wm6.5 on it...(to not mention wm6.0, and wm6.1). I dont think they managed to run WMP7 on it...
From my oppinion Wizard was a phone that will go in history with glory.
That cute slide keyboard...
Was to bad the absence of an internally GPS but paired with a Nokia LD-3W bluetooth GPS was perfect...
wolfee said:
What is so special about the HD2, is the ability to run so many dif roms/ports. It is a devs dream phone to work with. It is also very easy to flash rom/radios onto. It is so easy even I did it several times with mine, and I am really stup-it when it comes to stuff like that.
The phone has its quirks.. but overall it is a great phone. I had mine for 3 years before I sold it ($350. thats more then I paid for it new BTW) and never had a single problem with it. I would still have it if not for the Sensation.
It really is to bad that wp7 had to ruin the run/development of win op platform. There are so many possibilities still to be developed for it. Take a look at the HD2 forums and it is amazing what they have done and continue to do with that op system.
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Wow, I didn't realise it has maintained so much value... I should sell mine, after all it is a great phone.
lozonw said:
My HD2 finally went out on me. The touchscreen no longer works.
I have never been so sad about a phone ever.
Don't know if I'll get it fixed.
It was an amazing phone.
I flashed so many roms with it.
It started all this craziness for me.
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The exact same thing happened to my HD2 a couple of weeks ago. I believe it will cost me $100 to replace the digitalizer, but not sure if it's worth replacing as my back-up phone.
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Ok then how about HTC Wizard? I have mine now...and the battery still keep alive about 4 hours...
Mine is Qtek branded - basically HTC's commercial brand in those times...
Remember that Wizard has started with WM5 and they put even wm6.5 on it...(to not mention wm6.0, and wm6.1). I dont think they managed to run WMP7 on it...
From my oppinion Wizard was a phone that will go in history with glory.
That cute slide keyboard...
Was to bad the absence of an internally GPS but paired with a Nokia LD-3W bluetooth GPS was perfect...
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+1 for the HTC Wizard. Is was my first smartphone (T-Mobile MDA). The wizard is the OG gangsta of smartphone modding.
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I doubt that any device can top the hd2 in development at this point .. Winmo 6.5/6.5.3, wp7/7.5, ubuntu, android 2.1/2.2/2.3, win95, sense 2.0/2.1/3.0/3.5 and probably when ics source code released it will go on it too .. totally loved that phone
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I love my hd2's so much I have 2 as my "backup" phones I probably flash at least twice a week on them. The funny thing is of the 7 phones I've been through this year alone I can happily say the HD2 is the only phone that has never let me down and is still mine and my g/f's "go to" phone whenever our dailies take a crap or am awaiting to get a replacement or between phones....
I realize they are not pulling off some 4,000+ quadrant scores but at the same time none of my other phones have stayed intact or lasted as long as my HD2's have...I'm actually glad HTC provided all the crappy quirks such as sleep of death lcd, hardware button failures, short battery life and most importanly WinMo 6.5 and crappy initial firmwares as it only accelerated development for a means to Android on the HD2 Plus not to mention all the people that unknowingly sold their "bricked" hd2 for dirt cheap(as low as $75 in my neck of the woods on CL).
I hope my answer satisfies the OP.
Sorry guys, I am closing this thread as it does not belong to the SENSATION forum...
I know most people do not like WP7 as android is superior, yet I was wondering if there was any way to port it over onto the sensation, a bit like the HD2 as surely it could if we thought about it?
No for the millionth time.
1) wp7 needs a license, which sensation doesn't have therefore making it illegal.
2) wp7 doesn't have ANY support for multi core.
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zm15011992 said:
I know most people do not like WP7 as android is superior, yet I was wondering if there was any way to port it over onto the sensation, a bit like the HD2 as surely it could if we thought about it?
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WP7 being closed source as well, the HD2 was a bit of an exception since the hardware was practically the same as the HD7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417728&highlight=wp7