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Is a Windows Mobile 7 ROM possible?

I am loving the CM7 ROM for the Glacier and wouldn't mind keeping it for as long as I own this handset. As someone curious about the new Windows OS however, I was wondering if it's possible to create a version of the ROM for this phone. I noticed the HTC HD2 seems to be able to run Windows Mobile and Android just fine. Is it just a lucky fluke that it's hardware is compatible with both OS builds?

It is definitely possible for an WP7 ROM, but highly unlikely. The reason the HD2 got so much love is Because WinMo sucks arse cheeks. As a stock phone the MT4G is a great phone, but most of the people who frequent this site want the latest and greatest so that is why you see a lot of ROMs for android.
I can't speak for everyone on this site, IMO it won't happen.

The HD2 was also shipped with windows mobile to begin with, while maybe not the same versionI think it is frowned on a bit less than if you were to take a open device and put a closed os on it. That would be pretty much like buying computer parts real cheap putting the computer together and then stealing (pirating) a copy of windows 7 to put on the hdd, rather than buying the license properly.
So what I am saying I guess is it is not wither the hardware can handle it,which I see no reason it couldn't with driver tweaking. It is more the legality of it and that pirating is not allowed here!

I appreciate the reply. This is actually the first generation of Windows Mobile that even has me interested in taking it for a test drive. All of the previous versions reminded me of a poor version of the desktop OS.

My only interest in it s the gaming aspect, Android continuously disappointments me with the gaming options.

the only reason why HD2 is able to do WM7 and android is because, WM7 has the same type of architecture setup and the android is running off the SD card via Linux overlay. and honestly i used the HD2 for a bit for android and its a bit of a mess. they might come out with WM7 on MT4G but i dont think gaming will be any better on WM7.

whoamanwtf said:
My only interest in it s the gaming aspect, Android continuously disappointments me with the gaming options.
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Just wait until the PSP Androids take off...

No way MT4G will get windows rom.
The reason HD2 got Android and WP7 running because it is exactly the same phone as Evo and HD7 so porting was relatively easy. MT4G has different processor then any current WP7 phones and this processor is not supported by WP7.

I myself would be very interested in a windows phone port. just so I can change to WP7, watch some netflix, then switch back to android when I'm done.

I doubt it. U might have to pick up an HD2 if u want to dual boot Windows 7 and Android. U can find them for cheap on craigslist these days because most users who don't hack their phones, seemingly can't see the potential in HD2s. They are very good phones once u stray away from windows 6.5 IMO

I think the reason why the developers spend about 5 months trying to make the port to the HD2 was because one windows mobile is obsolete, second the fact that Microsoft and HTC were not going to update HD2 to WP7 because of Microsoft's lame excuse of the fact that the device had to many buttons BS! and lastly when the HD7 came out everyone was pissed to the fact that the HD7 was an exact replica (hardware) of the HD2's. I have WP7 on my HD2 it runs perfect with no bugs at all, but coming from android IMO is a bit boring OS as its not open source as android.
Now WP7 on the MT4G will never happen. I don't think developers such as Cotulla will try to spend months once again on trying to port WP7 to another device I think they were just trying to prove a point and they did

DaArtist401 said:
I doubt it. U might have to pick up an HD2 if u want to dual boot Windows 7 and Android. U can find them for cheap on craigslist these days because most users who don't hack their phones, seemingly can't see the potential in HD2s. They are very good phones once u stray away from windows 6.5 IMO
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This is super true
I honestly had no idea of how much support exists for this device until my Uncle asked me to put Android on his...
I was like ... I don't think I could do that, unk..
But it was actually pretty easy, almost too easy. Makes me want to grab one for a cheap tinker toy to fit right nicely into the tiny gap between my MT4G and my NookColor.

syaoran68 said:
the only reason why HD2 is able to do WM7 and android is because, WM7 has the same type of architecture setup and the android is running off the SD card via Linux overlay. and honestly i used the HD2 for a bit for android and its a bit of a mess. they might come out with WM7 on MT4G but i dont think gaming will be any better on WM7.
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I would agree partially. I have an HD2 as well as the MT4G. MDJs CM7 runs flawfless on the HD2! I will never flash any other rom for it unless he has updates. Its so smooth and snappy you would never believe the HD2 wasn't an Android device. The beauty of it is that, with MDJs CM7 rom, the HD2 battery life puts the MT4G to shame. 1-2ma battery drain on standby! Best backup phone ever!

You can get a home screen app on the market that "trys" to simulate a windows 7 fone but is lacking in features =\ BoL

[Q] [2 ALL DEVS] Any chance to see WebOS/iOS/WP7 on NS/NS4G?

With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
Happy New Year 2 all the estimated Developers and all the members of XDA!!!

Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too

Romonster said:
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused

doubtful. Not enough interest.
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vetvito said:
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.

webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.

Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...

so.... no interest.
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I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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Microsoft is taunting us...

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/op...linux-booting-on-arm-based-hardware/index.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5876384/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-boot-options-locked-down
If you're hankering after a Windows 8 tablet but thought you might also run Android, think again: Microsoft is planning to lock down the boot options on all ARM devices running its new OS.
Will they never learn?

and i was reading that an app has been developed to give Ipads access to windows 7 through a virtual storage (cloud) so that windows 7 can be used with all its potential on Ipads, whenever, anywhere and everywhere...
Those rich custards are being treated as if they deserve it.
Btw i read that ages ago (months?) about the windows 8 thing...

Nikropht said:
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/op...linux-booting-on-arm-based-hardware/index.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5876384/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-boot-options-locked-down
If you're hankering after a Windows 8 tablet but thought you might also run Android, think again: Microsoft is planning to lock down the boot options on all ARM devices running its new OS.
Will they never learn?
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It was hacked months ago....
http://news.techeye.net/software/windows-8-already-hacked
Dave
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mistermentality said:
It was hacked months ago....
http://news.techeye.net/software/windows-8-already-hacked
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"Kleissner told Ars Technica that the exploit did not currently target the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), but instead went after legacy BIOS."
These ARM devices will not have a legacy BIOS (the bios as such is an x86 thing), so this hack won't work on them.
This is Microsoft abusing their Windows monopoly, plain and simple. Offering discount licensing for Win8 only to companies who give in to their demands. Instead of playing with browser choosers, *this* is the kind of stuff the EU should be fighting against.

Gusar321 said:
"Kleissner told Ars Technica that the exploit did not currently target the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), but instead went after legacy BIOS."
These ARM devices will not have a legacy BIOS (the bios as such is an x86 thing), so this hack won't work on them.
This is Microsoft abusing their Windows monopoly, plain and simple. Offering discount licensing for Win8 only to companies who give in to their demands. Instead of playing with browser choosers, *this* is the kind of stuff the EU should be fighting against.
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Ah, I stand corrected then.
Dave
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You can't blame them for locking it down. They know that people will buy the devices for the hardware and then install their favourite OS, which is a bit of a kick in the teeth really!

DirkGently said:
You can't blame them for locking it down. They know that people will buy the devices for the hardware and then install their favourite OS, which is a bit of a kick in the teeth really!
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Who gives a ****. They got there money now let people do what they want with what THEY BOUGHT.
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xsteven77x said:
Who gives a ****. They got there money now let people do what they want with what THEY BOUGHT.
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agreed. if you pay for it. you should be able to do whatever u want to it
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DirkGently said:
people will buy the devices for the hardware and then install their favourite OS
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Probably not the cost-conscious ones. Don't forget, any tablet with Win8 is going to be sold with the MS tax included. An android device with the same hardware is always going to be cheaper.
I highly doubt manufacturers will stop making high-end android devices any time soon, so you'll always have the option of getting the latest hardware (for less!) by buying an android-native tablet.

I highly doubt manufacturers will stop making high-end android devices any time soon, so you'll always have the option of getting the latest hardware (for less!) by buying an android-native tablet.[/QUOTE]
I dont doubt that eather. There will still be open, highend Tablets. But still i realy dont think its ok from MS to force manufactors to use there secure boot, and lock them from alternative OSes. Thats the way there heading. Not only on Tablets. The whole Windows System is geting more closed. That they want to force users of ARM Tablets to use there Appstore is only one nasty thing. But they tried the closed system before with chips that check all the software on the system, and keep away all not certifyed software. They dident manage to do that in Windows 7, and maybe they still cant do it totaly on Windows 8, but im afraid with Windows 9 they will. I know that is still far away but its coming. And its realy nasty.
You can already see and feel the results of that from time to time. On my old, 32bit Notbook i had a security software to encrypt data and mount it as a external HD when you want to use it. On my new(64bit) Laptop i couldent use it anymore, just couse it was an open source project and they dident had the money to buy the driver certificat from Microsoft. By now i use TrueCrypt. Another Project that had the money to pay for it. Thats a good peace of software to but i realy dont like what MS is doing to Windows. I like XP and i love 7, but i hate were Windows is going!

WP8 ....made by developers for WP7.x

Okay im not a tech savvy person here but...
HD2 was able to switch from WinMobile 6.5 to Android to WinPhone 7
Is there anything preventing developers from making an unofficial port of wp7 to wp8?
Is the core structure that vast that we cant repeat history like the HD2?
Who knows, maybe HD2 will be the first to run unofficial WP8 XDD
Just a theory, feel free to debunk me straight away

With the change in kernel, it is nearly impossible i think
HD2 was able to run WP just because it was a WM 6.5 device and WM6.5 and WP7 share the same Windows CE kernel

I think we will only be able to get to WP 7.8 due to the CE to NT kernel change
(but even that will hopefully give us the full Skype integration that I want so much and a multitude of other features)

Windows Phone 7 and Android have different kernels and both run on the HD7 (or HD2, I don't remember)
This "kernel" talk is complete bull****. Just replace the kernel with one that supports legacy hardware and it's done. Windows RT runs on ARM and our WP7.5 phones are just that. The ones with WP8 too. The ONLY difference is the extra core.

What kind of kernel?
guilhermedsx said:
Just replace the kernel with one that supports legacy hardware and it's done. Windows RT runs on ARM and our WP7.5 phones are just that.
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I don't understand: What kernel supporting legacy hardware are you talking about here? Where will this come from, who will provide it?
I think we are right at the center of the problem here: Of course Microsoft could provide all kinds of device drivers for WP8 so that it could run on current WP7 phones, but decided against it - probably just too much costly work with almost no gain or even active opposition from manufacturers who want to sell new phones.

Yeah its got to be about getting the new devices sold, increase the market share. Besides, The gpu's and ram in our current phones won't be able to keep up with the new devices even when the new core with its native code stuff comes. Its like trying to run a new game on an old computer, it will load up fine but it'll run so slow it'd be unplayable. I believe that wp7.5 is pushing our current hardware to the limits
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Hard to say
goldenpipes said:
Its like trying to run a new game on an old computer, it will load up fine but it'll run so slow it'd be unplayable.
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Right, old computer, like the Lumia 900's that appear in the stores right now, born in factories at most a few weeks ago
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I believe that wp7.5 is pushing our current hardware to the limits
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That's really hard to say without anyone actually trying to run WP8 on a current WP7 phone; on the PC front, Windows 8 seems to be faster on the same hardware than Windows 7. And many times and in many apps the CPU inside your phone is boring itself to death anyway because it has so few things to do.

guilhermedsx said:
Windows Phone 7 and Android have different kernels and both run on the HD7 (or HD2, I don't remember)
This "kernel" talk is complete bull****. Just replace the kernel with one that supports legacy hardware and it's done. Windows RT runs on ARM and our WP7.5 phones are just that. The ones with WP8 too. The ONLY difference is the extra core.
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You're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483377
HD2 was able to boot Android (linux kernel) just because of the support of HaRET. Nothing can be done on it own.
And do remember that "famous HTC devices that are capable of running HaRET are the QSD8250 based HTC HD2 and a wide range of MSM7xxA based phones like the diamond, raphael and touch pro 2". Right now only the HD2 is still alive and its QSD8250 will be outdated soon.
You're talking about replacement like it's so easy. Changing kernel means every vendor has to rewrite everything from scratch including drivers for their devices. WP8 is designed to run on this new kernel (not the old kernel) so it does not support current devices. That's fair i think.
That's what we call changing (unlike 'changing' on Android or iOS, changing every now and then but nothing's new). Just hope that MS wont change too often.
Anyway, it's just only an announcement. The exact date of releasing WP8 is unknown. Right now, we still holding a device that runs a good OS. And even when WP8 is released, my phone's still doing something 'pretty much WP8' with 7.8 update. And can do that until i can afford a WP8 device or when everyone is switching. But that the story of at least 1 year from now.

"Right, old computer, like the Lumia 900's that appear in the stores right now, born in factories at most a few weeks ago "
Maybe not old, but ****ty hardware for sure, that won't run on on the new Windows Phone 8 because its more hardware hungry.
If we could get Windows Phone 8 onto some of the newer android handsets, especially the HTC One X, it would be AWESOME!

Tom_H_ said:
"Right, old computer, like the Lumia 900's that appear in the stores right now, born in factories at most a few weeks ago "
Maybe not old, but ****ty hardware for sure, that won't run on on the new Windows Phone 8 because its more hardware hungry.
If we could get Windows Phone 8 onto some of the newer android handsets, especially the HTC One X, it would be AWESOME!
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That would be more realistic )

I think the main issue for MS is that kernel changes require flashing ROMS - high risk of bricking and WAY beyond the ability of most of their market. So why would they invest that level of development in a small niche market that potentially undermines their own market (look at the crossover between developers and hackers/crackers lol). You need to look at the commercial sense of their decisions not your own needs.
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complete faith although ?S
I have complete faith wp8 or an adjusted version of wp8 will be cooked to run on our gen2 devices, heck remember seeing froyo run on the tmobile g1?
And I think that will give our phones better resale value when we do decide to purchase a wp8 handset, i know that's my semi long term goal when I upgrate my handset.
but what I want to know is and i'm not sure if it was covered in the press announcements, say you continue using your gen2 device, will all new upcoming wp8 apps stop working altogether?
for instance what if instagram, pandora, words with friends (which i know is coming) although engineered and designed for wp8 because yes i know its being rewritten differently, will they not work at all on wp7.8?
that's my semi concern, since they were finally able to hspl my titan and once the wp8 sdk (is that what it's called?) gets dumped and chefs get their hands on it, will it only be a matter of time before it is ported to our handsets as well?
I think what msft should have made absolutely clear and i'm not sure if they covered it or if i missed something, if they said "continue using your 7.8 device all apps written in the future will be usable on these devices" if that's the case people shouldn't worry and simply wait for their 2 year carrier contracts to expire and finally upgrade.
the only thing that prevents me from keeping my titan for long term use is that i really really need expandable storage.

@pvt_nemesis: Every single OS or firmware update has the same risk of breaking ("bricking" is a little strong, since it's technically recoverable, but people seem to use the term less strictly these days) a phone as the full kernel flash that you're talking about. There's nothing magical about an OS kernel. The WP7 kernel has almost certainly been replaced at least once by an update already (I'm pretty sure Mango updated part of the kernel).
Cooking a custom ROM of WP8 for WP7 hardware will mostly depend on the availability of drivers, I think. Unlike the current custom ROMs, which take their drivers from current ROMs, the switch from CE to NT will make all the WP7 drivers useless for WP8 ROMs. Therefore, we'll need WP8 (NT-on-ARM) drivers for the hardware of out WP7 devices... and there's no guarantee that it'll be available. It might, though.

Dual boot Android & Windows, is it possible?

Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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Dolfan058 said:
Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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It will be nearly impossible to do so since Windows is not open source. Meaning a Dev will have to reconstruct everything from scratch to get it to work. It will never be bug free or fully functional. Although it would be nice to have other OS options just for bragging rights.
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Dolfan058 said:
Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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nexus 5 has an ARM cpu
closest thing that works on ARM cpus in the Windows RT... but good luck with the drivers and other stuff
there are new phones coming out with the Intel Clover Trail/Bay Trail architecture. these are fully x86/x64-compatible chips.... maybe someone would be able to load windows on those... then you run into the problem of having the radio modem work in windows and other stuff

Well @Cotulla sort of made it happen for the HD2 in this thread. It wasn't Windows 8.1, but it was WPH. I think that's a pretty good start.
He's also been working with the HTC One to get Windows RT or WP8 working (here), which is pretty sweet. I'm not sure how much he could help with the Nexus 5, though, since I don't think he has one.

might as well buy a windows phone

Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
I'm planning on buying a Windows Phone at the end of the year (waiting for the mythical McLaren phone), but I was kind of hoping I'd be able to do something crazy and try loading Windows on this beast. it certainly has the specs for it, although I admittedly have no clue as to how difficult it would be (didn't take into account the on-screen buttons, etc).
I can dream though!

Dolfan058 said:
Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
I'm planning on buying a Windows Phone at the end of the year (waiting for the mythical McLaren phone), but I was kind of hoping I'd be able to do something crazy and try loading Windows on this beast. it certainly has the specs for it, although I admittedly have no clue as to how difficult it would be (didn't take into account the on-screen buttons, etc).
I can dream though!
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Nope.

Dolfan058 said:
Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
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Same answer
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jabza said:
Well @Cotulla sort of made it happen for the HD2 in this thread. It wasn't Windows 8.1, but it was WPH. I think that's a pretty good start.
He's also been working with the HTC One to get Windows RT or WP8 working (here), which is pretty sweet. I'm not sure how much he could help with the Nexus 5, though, since I don't think he has one.
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The HTC HD2 was a Windows phone and he brought Android to it. Since Android is open source it's much easier to port Android to Windows devices than Windows to Android devices.

I have a very clear and scientific answer to this.....no.
Plus...if it were possible, the windows OS would be warez....and we don't talk about such things on XDA. ?

Yeah, licensing fees from Microsoft anyways lol

There is nothing in the Terms of use about using Windows Phone on other hardware, nor is there a licence agreement to adhere to or a purchasable licence for the OS - so I wouldn't necessarily say Windows Phone would be Warez
That said it's still nigh-on impossible.