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Hi, I'm on Sprint phone carrier and I really want the HD2 phone, but I don't want to switch to another carrier, but Sprint said they are going to release HTC Supersonic phone which suppose to have same physical specs as HD2 but AMOLED screen and !no! Android! I don't want the android! I've been using WM since age of 5! I don't know what to do, so depressed. If it could be possible to dump HD2 rom and put it on HTC Supersonic... that could be cool... please tell me if something like that is at least theoretically possible.
It's incredibly unlikely, if not impossible, to put Windows Mobile on a device that didn't ship with it. In fact, no one's ever done it before, because it's way to difficult. The biggest problem is that Windows Mobile lacks a HAL, meaning that the kernel must directly support the hardware. This means that Windows Mobile ROMs are highly device dependant, and will not work on other devices for which they were not made for. In short, it's not going to happen. You'd have better luck purchasing a popular HTC Windows Mobile device and hoping someone ports Android to it. Sorry...
It's not possible to run Windows Mobile on Android devices. While there has been ports to do the reverse (Android on WM) like AndrOMINA, the hardware has to support Windows Mobile (which some CPUs don't) and the SPL (Secondary Program Loader) has to be configured to boot the WM ROM.
Android devices have their NAND Chips divided into various partitions, however WM has it all-in-one partition (correct me if I'm wrong).
Why do you want Windows Mobile on an Android device? Unless you know your techie stuff, pay Microsoft for the Windows Mobile source code, compile and test it on your Android device, not to mention the tasks of flashing, rooting, etc.
In other words, if you want Windows Mobile, go buy a WM phone that's out on the market today. Otherwise, if you get an Android phone, get used to android.
Windows Mobile will eventually die, while open source goodness will march on. (This is just my personal opinion, I don't hate Windows Mobile, but it's closed source and you can't do as much as you can with Android).
Cheers.
Coburn64 said:
Windows Mobile will eventually die, while open source goodness will march on. (This is just my personal opinion, I don't hate Windows Mobile, but it's closed source and you can't do as much as you can with Android).
Cheers.
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I ran Android on my phone and played around with it... i didn't really liked it because it's not as customizable as windows mobile. Like I changed the registry on my phone and now I have free tethering on Sprint where I have to pay something like $40 to use it... on Android I simply couldn't find the calibration tool because my touch screen is a little messy. I have nothing against Android or Iphone OS, but I preffer Windows Mobile more for it's customizability so to say. Also I have perfect set of software for it that I only going to use... I hope windows mobile will survive and continue living... also i hope android will progress too.
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I ran Android on my phone and played around with it... i didn't really liked it because it's not as customizable as windows mobile. Like I changed the registry on my phone and now I have free tethering on Sprint where I have to pay something like $40 to use it... on Android I simply couldn't find the calibration tool because my touch screen is a little messy. I have nothing against Android or Iphone OS, but I preffer Windows Mobile more for it's customizability so to say. Also I have perfect set of software for it that I only going to use... I hope windows mobile will survive and continue living... also i hope android will progress too.
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Why do people hate WinMo though?
Its pretty great and the experience is good, if you talk about WinMo in a Iphone or Android forum they will act like you said a forbidden word and vice-versa.
Ace42 said:
Why do people hate WinMo though?
Its pretty great and the experience is good, if you talk about WinMo in a Iphone or Android forum they will act like you said a forbidden word and vice-versa.
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Because YOU use winmo. What's not to hate?
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Why do people hate WinMo though?
Its pretty great and the experience is good, if you talk about WinMo in a Iphone or Android forum they will act like you said a forbidden word and vice-versa.
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Haha, that's true... I can understand those people, it's simply because they don't know all the features of WinMo and all smooth experience of Iphone or Android is a big + for those OS, after them you look at WinMo as a shabby and old-style OS, but... I like this feature on my phone for example: If i don't have my phone with me or it's charging in the bedroom i can simply access it over the internet and just drag'n'drop whatever files i need! Or login to my phone and check my messages, not even getting up from the couch or touching the phone!
This is a great + of WinMo and a grat - of other platforms. Other phones have cool stuff too like Google app store and Iphone store...
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Because YOU use winmo. What's not to hate?
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I don't actually use the phone, I just put Roms on it for my brother.I may play around with it though. I've owned a Iphone, touch pro and now have a Dream.Can't wait for that X10 though.
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I don't actually use the phone, I just put Roms on it for my brother.I may play around with it though. I've owned a Iphone, touch pro and now have a Dream.Can't wait for that X10 though.
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Personally waiting for the dragon/bravo, a 4in. screen just seems TOO big. There's good big, then there is TOO big, the x10 is verging on TOO big. Great for typing, not so much for fitting in pockets.
Even if its not possible to run full blown Windows Mobile on an Android device, is there a way to emulate Windows Mobile within it? I have a large catalog of medical programs from WinMo that aren't yet available for Android and I really wish I could still use them. They're so useful, I'm half tempted to carry my old Tilt around without its SIM card. I would certainly pay for a program that let me use these old programs on my Android device and I believe others would too.
Coburn64 said:
It's not possible to run Windows Mobile on Android devices. While there has been ports to do the reverse (Android on WM) like AndrOMINA, the hardware has to support Windows Mobile (which some CPUs don't) and the SPL (Secondary Program Loader) has to be configured to boot the WM ROM.
Android devices have their NAND Chips divided into various partitions, however WM has it all-in-one partition (correct me if I'm wrong).
Why do you want Windows Mobile on an Android device? Unless you know your techie stuff, pay Microsoft for the Windows Mobile source code, compile and test it on your Android device, not to mention the tasks of flashing, rooting, etc.
In other words, if you want Windows Mobile, go buy a WM phone that's out on the market today. Otherwise, if you get an Android phone, get used to android.
Windows Mobile will eventually die, while open source goodness will march on. (This is just my personal opinion, I don't hate Windows Mobile, but it's closed source and you can't do as much as you can with Android).
Cheers.
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Question, have you ever used a windows mobile phone? For the record WinMo is already dead, it died at 6.5 and likely isnt coming back in any form. We have windows phone 7now which is an entirely different OS altogether but has nothing to do with WinMo other than the distributor. Windows mobile is the single most customizable phone operating system out there. It's the only one you can customize every single aspect was. The main problem with it is you have to customize it before its really functional. Windows phone, though it lacks customization has a nicer UI than android or iphone by default and is capable of running much more powerful applications than android. I mean pick your poison but at least go into a conversation knowing what you're talking about but android though open is nowhere near as open as windows mobile.
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My 3.8 inch screen fits well in my jean's pocket, or you can get a holster!!
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Haha, that's true... I can understand those people, it's simply because they don't know all the features of WinMo and all smooth experience of Iphone or Android is a big + for those OS, after them you look at WinMo as a shabby and old-style OS, but... I like this feature on my phone for example: If i don't have my phone with me or it's charging in the bedroom i can simply access it over the internet and just drag'n'drop whatever files i need! Or login to my phone and check my messages, not even getting up from the couch or touching the phone!
This is a great + of WinMo and a grat - of other platforms. Other phones have cool stuff too like Google app store and Iphone store...
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Not to mention, along with all the good things WinMo is and does, is the excellent battery life. I have been using Android ROMs on my HD2 since they were available, and I also have OEM Android phones, and I recently...like a coupe days ago...re-flashed a WWE WinMo ROM back onto my HD2...hadn't used WinMo in like forever...and the battery life is just purely pleasing. It's so much better than the best Android phone I've ever used.
The biggest issue with WinMo are the apps...or lack thereof. All of the popular apps are missing and what apps there are seem crappy compared to the other systems. The social apps and social integration in WinMo are horrible. But the best thing I've found for WinMo to keep using it is Uno. LOL...the WinMo version of Uno is by far the best and is actually playable. Most other WinMo games are unusable.
And for WinMo not being open, whether that means the OS, I don't know, but there are tones of customs WinMo ROMs available and the system is actually more open than Android, in my opinion. Had MS stood behind WinMo and supported it for getting app devs like they are with WP7, they would have the best system going. But this brings to mind that WinMo isn't modern like the others are. It doesn't even natively support capacitive multi-touch display tech. That may have played a big role in MS abandoning it in favor of a ground-up new OS.
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lol. you'd hate the Galaxy Nexus' 4.65" screen then.
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Necro bumping ftw?
I love Windows 10 Mobile, love Android too. Both OS have - and + Android is open source that can be customized anytime, anywhere. Windows Mobile cannot be customized because it's not open source and only Microsoft can add and remove things in it. W10M is best Windows for mobile devices, you can buy a Lumia device, for example Microsoft Lumia 950. It's the best Lumia I ever seen and works soooo cool
I used a Windows Mobile device for years and only recently made the switch to Android. I had to do it because of the apps, they just aren't on WM.
Keep in mind Android is highly customizable. When I swapped I used a Windows-esque launcher with squares and a metro design to ease the transition. You can do other things as well to make it a very similar experience, at least in my opinion.
If you really want to stick with WM, and I can't blame you, go for the Nokia Lumia 950. The hardware and specs are pretty high end.
Hey what's up I'm kinda new I had the G1 b4 loved the phone then sold it and then recently I was lookin at gettin the new HTC HD2 but heard it was havin a bunch of freezin issues and of the new vibrant..does anyone else on here know the facts on the phone as far as battery..display..info like that? My upgrade will be in a month and a half and I am definitely stoked to get that phone thanks o and lastly does anyone know if there is a app to make the keyboard vibrate when u text I've been looking but can't find it..
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what does this have to do with android the HD2 is a windows phone lol
HD2 is crap...
Android > Windows
Windows = HD2
EVO = Android
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HD2 is crap...
Android > Windows
Windows = HD2
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Not really. The HD2 is a wonderful phone for people who prefer Windows Mobile, which is infinitely more versatile than Android IMHO.
Don't make comments like that, as if your words are based on a general consensus.
OT, the Vibrant is essentially the Samsung Galaxy S. It has a 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 and is has one of the fastest GPUs on an Android phone.
There are issues with the build quality, since it's plastic and a little glass, and the design looks reminiscent of an iPhone (actually a lot like the iPhone), and there is no flash on the camera.
There is also the issue of Samsung having a bad reputation for updates and fixes, and in my opinion TouchWiz UI is utter rubbish.
However, if you buy the Vibrant you can install an alternate launcher, and the thing is certainly capable of long video playback times on battery and playing and recording 720p HD video, and outputting it to your TV, so go for it.
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Not really. The HD2 is a wonderful phone for people who prefer Windows Mobile, which is infinitely more versatile than Android IMHO.
Don't make comments like that, as if your words are based on a general consensus.
OT, the Vibrant is essentially the Samsung Galaxy S. It has a 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 and is has one of the fastest GPUs on an Android phone.
There are issues with the build quality, since it's plastic and a little glass, and the design looks reminiscent of an iPhone (actually a lot like the iPhone), and there is no flash on the camera.
There is also the issue of Samsung having a bad reputation for updates and fixes, and in my opinion TouchWiz UI is utter rubbish.
However, if you buy the Vibrant you can install an alternate launcher, and the thing is certainly capable of long video playback times on battery and playing and recording 720p HD video, and outputting it to your TV, so go for it.
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Oh please, i used winmo for years and imho winmo dosent even come close to android, for that matter until windows phone 7 is released there has been no improvement in winmo since windows mobile 5 lol 6/6.1/6.5 are basically the same os
AndroHero said:
Oh please, i used winmo for years and imho winmo dosent even come close to android, for that matter until windows phone 7 is released there has been no improvement in winmo since windows mobile 5 lol 6/6.1/6.5 are basically the same os
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I said versatile, and you're being vague, what does "doesn't even come close to Android" mean? In terms of the stability and UI, I have to agree with you. Android has never rebooted or crashed on me or made me do a soft reset as WM does.
However, tinkerers who are comfortable with the Windows OS and it's libraries, programming and dependencies instead of Android's Linux/Java kernel-engine build love it to death because of the sheer versatility. I love the idea of a little hand coded file server running on my WM phone to set up as a hotspot via WLAN.
It depends on who you are, basically. People who love simplicity and power will take Android, and people who love absolute power - no matter what the cost of usability and stability is - will take WM IMHO.
Ha no look this is pretty much seeing how many ppl know about the Vibrant cause I am trying to find out more or just make it better known. The Vibrant apparently is better screen quality as the hd2 but is android definitely check it out plus 16gb memory..slim and all touch. I wanted to know more bout it but ended up explainin more than anythin
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I know this post is coming out a little prematurely, but I couldn't help but notice that the Samsung Focus and the Samsung Captivate are identical phones... not only are they identical but they are running on the same network (modem drivers and such would be the same) ... does anyone know if this port would be possible?
They are not identical phones. Samsung's WP7 devices (the Focus and Omnia7) use Qualcomm's Snapdragon 1GHz processor. The Galaxy S series uses Samsungs 1GHz Hummingbird processor. I'm guessing we would need WP7 drivers before we could port anything. But even with that, I bet there are other hardware differences.
Why is everyone so hyped about WP7? Doesnt anyone remember how lame windows mobile was? Everytime I see someone post about WP7 its like its going to revolutionize smartphones. Theres not much they can do that already isnt being done. WP7....so lame. And it looks like ATT is trying to jump on that ship first and offer a big selection of handsets at launch....go figure. At least they got something right and got one of the best android phones available for now. Its not great out of the box but with all the roms and mods on XDA its starting to show some real potential.
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Why is everyone so hyped about WP7?.
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Have to disagree here. Windows Phone 7 is a completely different beast than WM 6 or 6.5. You can't compare the two. Different UIs, different use cases, different applications and core technologies. Everyone's hyped because it seems Microsoft might have finally done something right when it comes to mobile devices. Every tech journalist I've heard talk about their preview WP7 devices has been very happy. And as someone who picked an Android phone because I wanted a choice in how I use it, the possibility of WP7 running on it just adds one more choice.
Why on earth would you ever want a car that's not colored black?
Sending a rocket ship to the moon is preposterous!
Nobody will ever need or want more than 1 MB of RAM on their computer.
I love it when people shoot down ideas without thinking it through to all possible conclusions beyond their own.
I wouldn't mind seeing WP7 getting ported some day. Choices are good.
multi-boot Android, WP7, and IOS4.... Sound kind of cool to me.
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multi-boot Android, WP7, and IOS4.... Sound kind of cool to me.
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Just add a good DOS emulator (I know DOSBox was being ported some day) in that list and I'll be totally excited.
Windows (and the Windows/Microsoft mentality, design-philosophy and school-of-thought) belong on cell phones even less than it belongs on desktop PCs.
For the love of all that is sane and proper, let cell phones be the clean slate which allow us to break free from Microsoft inertia and influence. Let the handful of remaining Microsoft fanboys fondle their WP7 phones and Zunes while the rest of us move forward.
And linux, unix, posix apps belongs on them even less. Oh, wait...
Stop trying to start Fanboy discussions and OS flame wars. Do you run your phone completely in Terminal? Do you expect a WP7 device to have a start button on the screen? Get viruses? Blue Screen?
Each platform has merits and competition is a good thing in almost every case. Choice on a device designed for one platform being able to run another offers bragging rights for the developers and gives more power back to the community.
I'm for the phone that gives me what I want it to do and the freedom to do it.
IOS = locked into the iWorld of iTunes, extreme DRM, and I can only use the device.
Android = the freedom I wanted at a price. Custom flashing ROMS to even get my device to work as intended. But I can do whatever I want with it and don't have to worry about DRM.
WP7 = locked into the M$ world. Again I think it will be highly restrictive on what you can do. I'm sure there will be people (here on XDA) that will hack it.. but it will still be Windows for your phone - and therefore limited.
I'll stick with my single boot Android device - Although it would have that "nerdy cool factor" to have multiple OS's to boot my phone into... I'd rather have one working OS than 2 or 3 that were buggy as hell.
This has been gone over to death, Will it happen?.....Maybe. Will it be soon I dought it. I left WM for Android due to seeing the road M$ was going down with WP7. I have yet to lay Judgment on WP7 till I can get some hands on time with it but to tell the truth I dont see it being an option for me personally as I hot swap SD cards all time due to diff projects, Class, Work, Music...ect. The inability to do so with WP7 is just a deal breaker for me, not to mention no ETA on copy and past. I see WP7 as an early version of IOS, locked in to many ways while they try to get base functions to work right.
Nobody will ever need or want more than 1 MB of RAM on their computer.
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LOL...once upon a time I had a computer with a 2 gig HDD...I told a friend of mine "There's no way I'll EVER fill this up!!"
sremick said:
Windows (and the Windows/Microsoft mentality, design-philosophy and school-of-thought) belong on cell phones even less than it belongs on desktop PCs.
For the love of all that is sane and proper, let cell phones be the clean slate which allow us to break free from Microsoft inertia and influence. Let the handful of remaining Microsoft fanboys fondle their WP7 phones and Zunes while the rest of us move forward.
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Microsoft being the maker of WP7 has almost nothing to do with Microsoft Windows. How much of Mac OS do you see in the iPhone? Just because someone doesn't like Mac does not mean they will hate the iPhone.
I was thinking this too...
Hardware agnostic smartphones... I wrote about it over at my blog TheProfessorNotes
Excerpt: Since the start of the smartphone experience, the hardware and the operating system have been so tightly integrated that one is hard to distinguish from the other. This started as far back as the Springboard Sprint phone hardware attachment for the Handspring Visor, and continues today with the Windows 7 phones, the iPhone and in reality the Android phone. But what if the phones (hardware) and the soul of the phones, the mobile OS’s, could be separated?
emuneee said:
They are not identical phones. Samsung's WP7 devices (the Focus and Omnia7) use Qualcomm's Snapdragon 1GHz processor. The Galaxy S series uses Samsungs 1GHz Hummingbird processor. I'm guessing we would need WP7 drivers before we could port anything. But even with that, I bet there are other hardware differences.
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Did they prove that the Focus has a snapdragon? I knew the Omina7 did, but the last spec sheet i saw said the Focus was unknown. It would still be a pretty darn close match with the graphics being the only potential problem....
Everyone keeps bashing on Microsoft but I see no problem with them? I'm currently on Windows 7 and I can customize the daylights out of it. So, is there really a problem?
Besides, Windows 7 is going to be a serious gaming platform, as this is Microsoft's entry into the mobile gaming world. So...the most powerful phone out...with a gaming OS...sounds like a major win to me!
I'm just a little shocked to hear some people that use Android, meant to enable freedom to the user, say that our Android phones shouldn't be allowed to run other software that's not Android.
That simply baffles the mind.
"I don't like Microsoft, therefore nobody else should be able to run Microsoft products on their Android phones even though it will in no way affect the usage of my own phone."
*sigh*
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I'm just a little shocked to hear some people that use Android, meant to enable freedom to the user, say that our Android phones shouldn't be allowed to run other software that's not Android.
That simply baffles the mind.
"I don't like Microsoft, therefore nobody else should be able to run Microsoft products on their Android phones even though it will in no way affect the usage of my own phone."
*sigh*
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I'll drink to that
The hardest part would be getting the hummingbird processor to work with the windows 7 platform. I wouldn't mind a dual boot phone though. Android/wm7/ios.
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WP7 OS requires a hardware PVK chip on-board in-order to function at all. That will be the hardest part. Even the ppl hacking HTC HD2 can only get it to operate in DEMO only mode because of the lacking of that chip.
Hello World,
I really don't understand why, but I know there are some people that want WP7 on their "old" devices like HD2 and that some great gurus on XDA are working hard to do it
Yet personally I just hate WP7 and I would like to know if the opposite initiative exists or would be possible : I would like to have good old WinMo 6.5 on newer hardware
I'd love to have something with at least 1 ghz horsepower like HD2, a big capacitive screen but also with a hardware keyboard like desire Z or HTC 7 pro ... running WinMo.
Do you know if there are some hacking attempts to make work wm 6.5 on new devices designed for wp7 or android ?
Cheers,
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Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
There are plenty of people, like myself, who would love to trade our HD2's for an HD7. Different strokes.
z33dev33l said:
Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
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i think you will find android is just as able to launch a diffrent os .... linux based os's like ubuntu can be easly launched from android
Linux on top of linux isnt that impressive... and linux itself is kinda a letdown as is. I mean I know that its capable of a bunch of cool additional features but just like android you have to tinker with it for forever before it's usable.
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There are plenty of people, like myself, who would love to trade our HD2's for an HD7. Different strokes.
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Give it time and I'm sure there will be plenty of people you can swap with
Old?
LOL, it´s funny how now we are used to call "old" to a year old device
I prefer Leo because I can switch between Android and WM and soon with WP7 and that´s the freedom I want on a phone.
Doubt WP7 will have the option to load WM but if I´m wrong probably then and only then I should consider it.
I agree, I would love to have the "option" to put 6.5 on a WP7 phone...just gota figure out that flash card thing !
Just because every app for 6.5 is not available for WP7 yet and won't be for a long time, basic stuff like RDC is not there yet and I need it.
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Doubt it, WM is about the only OS versatile enough to launch a different OS altogether. I personally wouldnt touch 6.5 again with a 10 foot pole, I dont want to modify my phone for a week before it gains some functionality.
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I agree with you on both points : WM is the most versatile mobile OS ... and yes most of the time you have to tweak it a lot. Yet from my point of view, WM as a core and some graphical user friendly interface above like Sense gives to the user "the best of the two worlds" : a powerful and tweakable machine but also user friendly out of the box
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Old?
LOL, it´s funny how now we are used to call "old" to a year old device
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I've also double quoted "Old" in my post
DavidinCT said:
I agree, I would love to have the "option" to put 6.5 on a WP7 phone...just gota figure out that flash card thing !
Just because every app for 6.5 is not available for WP7 yet and won't be for a long time, basic stuff like RDC is not there yet and I need it.
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Definitely
Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
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Just to try to clarify my thought :
even if certainly difficult, would it be possible or totally unthinkable to "cross-flash" let's say a tweaked HD2 rom, with some touch pro 2 keyboard drivers cooked inside, over a HD7pro or Desire Z machine if the hardware between HD2 and HD7pro/Desire Z are quite similar ?
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Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
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I also think WM is just 10000 better and more powerful than WP7
Personally I just don't understand why WP7 is making such a buzz ... and even inside the techno-geeks people community
What makes me sad it is not that m$ has made WP7 ... (if some people are willing to pay to have a uglier and not customizable OS with less features, it's after all their choice ) ... what makes me sad is that WM a much more capable and versatile OS is dying
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Now that I´ve tested WP7 on my leo I must confess I prefer Windows Mobile
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One day working with WP7 on a hacked device gives you a firm base to run a compare of the two? I don't think so mate, that would be poor journalism at best.
Lord.Nibbler said:
I also think WM is just 10000 better and more powerful than WP7
Personally I just don't understand why WP7 is making such a buzz ... and even inside the techno-geeks people community
What makes me sad it is not that m$ has made WP7 ... (if some people are willing to pay to have a uglier and not customizable OS with less features, it's after all their choice ) ... what makes me sad is that WM a much more capable and versatile OS is dying
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Eh, I agree except the uglier part. People for the most part arent members of XDA developers. Who wants a phone that you have to tweak for days before it becomes something functional? Maybe an XDA member. Who wants a phone that you still have to bust a stylus out sometimes to hit some menu options? Maybe an XDA member. I would trade all of that in any day for the most fluid UI, intelligent keyboard, and music interface on a phone to date.
The reason for this is ......... just because.
The HTC HD2 is an awesome phone, that should be the basis of any number of other phones. Its very hackable, its stable, it works well, its epically user-friendly and it doesn't have any significant downsides. Its also very easy to change the bootloader on and we've seen the effectiveness of MAGLDR and other options.
Asking why is sort of like asking why Linux exists. It exists because its something people find useful and interesting. Some people find it awesome to hack, some find it great to use. Most don't know about it and never change their phone in any way.
I'm personally waiting to see iOS4 running on the HD2. That will be interestingly epic.
Probably the reason is WM6.5 is pretty much dead, and WP7 isn't. You aren't going to see any new apps or new development for WM6.5. All the latest apps are going to be for iPhone, Android, and WP7.
It's kind of a shame, I think 6.5 seems quite fluid and finger-friendly on my Touch Diamond running Energy ROM. However, none of the games and apps I have for iPhone and Android are available for WM6.5.
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Eh, I agree except the uglier part. People for the most part arent members of XDA developers. Who wants a phone that you have to tweak for days before it becomes something functional? Maybe an XDA member. Who wants a phone that you still have to bust a stylus out sometimes to hit some menu options? Maybe an XDA member. I would trade all of that in any day for the most fluid UI, intelligent keyboard, and music interface on a phone to date.
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Just two points :
- In fact uglier or not uglier is just a matter of taste, so I wont argue on that even if I found the WP7 interface horrible ... The real point that is really ugly is that fact that m$ is becoming dictatorial and decided to prevent people to have the right to change it or customize it to suit their needs Personally I will never pay for an OS that will prevent me to do what I want to do. The OS must suit my needs, not the contrary
- And as for the tweaking ... if you take a phone like the HD2 WM+Sense, you have a pretty good power over user friendliness balance, certainly far far better than any of the WP7 devices...
zedd_D1abl0 said:
The reason for this is ......... just because.
The HTC HD2 is an awesome phone, that should be the basis of any number of other phones. Its very hackable, its stable, it works well, its epically user-friendly and it doesn't have any significant downsides. Its also very easy to change the bootloader on and we've seen the effectiveness of MAGLDR and other options.
Asking why is sort of like asking why Linux exists. It exists because its something people find useful and interesting. Some people find it awesome to hack, some find it great to use. Most don't know about it and never change their phone in any way.
I'm personally waiting to see iOS4 running on the HD2. That will be interestingly epic.
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I think you've maybe misunderstood me : I don't ask "why HD2 ?" because I also think it is by far the best smartphone on the market even today or why hacking which is more and more logical and legitimate when major companies try to restrict features as much as possible just to try to sell you a shiny new new revolutionary "copy & paste" upgrade a few month later...
My point is : for now I won't change my HD2, I don't think that I will find a better phone on the market in the near future...
I mean, hardware is improving and some really nice 1 ghz+ sliding keyboard like HD7 pro will be soon available... but for me WP7 is just a wobbly dumbphone OS that will prevent me to buy such phone.
But HD2 won't last forever ... so I was just trying to know if there would be a chance that the creativity of the xda gurus could be orientated to try to keep alive WM on newer hardware, as m$ certainly won't do it, as it is more profitable for them to push forward Wobbly Phone 7
GnatGoSplat said:
Probably the reason is WM6.5 is pretty much dead, and WP7 isn't. You aren't going to see any new apps or new development for WM6.5. All the latest apps are going to be for iPhone, Android, and WP7.
It's kind of a shame, I think 6.5 seems quite fluid and finger-friendly on my Touch Diamond running Energy ROM. However, none of the games and apps I have for iPhone and Android are available for WM6.5.
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And it's even better on a HD2 than on a diamond
The fact is that even if WM6.5 is dying ... there are still a lot more apps on WM6.5 than WP7 and you also find apps on WM that you won't find on Android or iPhone.
And developers are stopping to develop on WM6.5 because they think that there is no future...
But maybe if WP7 sales are very low, and power users still try to keep alive WM6.5 and show that they won't accept this forced regression ... maybe m$ will change their minds and they will give us back some power features, customisation and compatibility with WM6.5. After all, WP7 core is still windows CE based so it is just an artificial and arbitrary tie up.
They ditched all the easy access for a UI that's not terrible without a stylus. Fair trade in my opinion. I like 6.5 but I didn't like building up my hd2 with custom everything before I could call it functional. Complain about c & p all you want I never used it. I did however use the keyboard, the menus, the dialer, the SMS programs, email integration, etc. None of which could be considered useful if even functional on 6.5. I'll take an os i don't have to mod to make it awesome over one i can mod in a number of ways any time.
I've kinda gotten tired of Android. Not entirely, but as a Mobile OS. I feel I use a phone on Android 10x more than a phone on another OS. Seriously, my average screen on time is 8 hours at the least. I flash Roms, and softbreak my phone 10+ times a week. Tired would be the wrong, I just need an OS that has less. I've been growing fond of Windows Phone. I enjoy the OS, the simplistic look. There's not much you can really do with it, and it just works. All phones on 7.5 are updating to 7.8(Which is 8, but for lower end devices). Mostly all Windows phones that where on 7.0, got updated to 7.5. So what am I saying? All there devices are being updated. There's been on device that's been peaking my interest. The Nokia Lumia 900. By Black Jesus this is a beautiful phone, and I love Nokia. This phone is getting the 7.8 update. The Nokia 920 seems like an even better device. I love android, and I have a Kindle running AOKP Jellybean. But that's all I can see my Android love going as of now. Can anybody convince me otherwise?
I hate windows in fact I am a nokia fan eversince the old 3210. This phone is just my 2nd android device while I already own 32 nokia devices. And the reason I jump off nokia is also because of dumping maemo/meego OS over windows. But hey I'm not here to rant over windows In fact base on your perspective I am recommending you windows over android. Windows maybe annoying to me but I can't deny the fact that it is very stable compared to android and just suites your taste based on this thread. Development on that part is also active than you think. There's dual booting stuffs and custom ROMs also. So my say would be go ahead with windows and don't get pulled down by the open source support hype(android is open source and we can mod it all we want) which is not so true in real life as you can see in our situation with mt4gs I think. Since they might be open source but almost all components aren't.
Riyal said:
I hate windows in fact I am a nokia fan eversince the old 3210. This phone is just my 2nd android device while I already own 32 nokia devices. And the reason I jump off nokia is also because of dumping maemo/meego OS over windows. But hey I'm not here to rant over windows In fact base on your perspective I am recommending you windows over android. Windows maybe annoying to me but I can't deny the fact that it is very stable compared to android and just suites your taste based on this thread. Development on that part is also active than you think. There's dual booting stuffs and custom ROMs also. So my say would be go ahead with windows and don't get pulled down by the open source support hype(android is open source and we can mod it all we want) which is not so true in real life as you can see in our situation with mt4gs I think. Since they might be open source but almost all components aren't.
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Can you share why you don't like Windows Phone?
Also, I have carpel from holding my phone to much XO Thats sad :3
It's all about linux. I am a linux programmer/System Admin & I just feel attached to it. Now seeing android being the most closest OS to linux I can't help myself but to go with it. Like I mentioned this is just my 2nd android device. My previous device before android which is a nokia phablet(n900) runs pure linux but nokia decided to discontinue it due to windows. So basically I hated windows for
1 it replaced my favorite OS of choice and made me stay away from nokia.
2nd I like linux terminal over command prompt
3rd I like android live wallpaper.
Riyal said:
It's all about linux. I am a linux programmer/System Admin & I just feel attached to it. Now seeing android being the most closest OS to linux I can't help myself but to go with it. Like I mentioned this is just my 2nd android device. My previous device before android which is a nokia phablet(n900) runs pure linux but nokia decided to discontinue it due to windows. So basically I hated windows for
1 it replaced my favorite OS of choice and made me stay away from nokia.
2nd I like linux terminal over command prompt
3rd I like android live wallpaper.
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Anything from a user experience stand point?
That's why I referred you to windows For me Windows Phone beats android UE in any possible angle.
Riyal said:
That's why I referred you to windows For me Windows Phone beats android UE in any possible angle.
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Nice, I have an HTC Radar right now. It was my brothers, and I'm enjoying it. I'm running one of the Custom Roms for it. Not much a difference other than some Nokia features, and it's unlocked(rooted). It's fast, and the Keyboard isn't half bad for a touchscreen. I'm missing widgets tho' :T
I was also impressed with the 920. I had an old Nokia flip phone way back, and it never failed. Their build quality is superb.
I'm pretty sure some version of booting android will show up at some point for this device as well. Two of my friends have Windows Phones, and the OS seems even more fluid and visually appealing than Apple's
I'd say go for it.
I would too, but I made a promise to keep my device for another year. Plus, I'm in love with all the options for Android.
That new lumia looks impressive actually. There's a vid on youtube with a guy hammering in a nail with the touchscreen side and the phone still being good. On top of that, he pulled the 2x4 by the nail to show it was hammered in pretty good.
Honestly though, I love android as my personal user preference. Then again, I've never swayed a friend from an iphone either. If you decide to go with windows, I would personally think lumia. Sleek and sturdy. Its all about what you want in your phone.
Then again, I would do some research first. Comparing the iphone 4s/sgs3/lumia is what I would look at though. The best (so to speak) of each os currently.
Noooooo don't do it your gonna regret it
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why not get a windows phone and see how you like it?
there are some amazing deals on unlocked devices.
I think it's fine to give yourself a rest from these things. There's so much going on in the android world that you can suffer update fatigue and information overload!
And if nothing else it means you'll have a working phone for the times when your android device is bricked. Just don't let your friends see you using it, otherwise they'll expect you to be their expert, and will also assume you've sold out!
How about getting an Android phone and using a windows phone 7 themed launcher on it? That way you get the best of both worlds.
Whenever you like, you switch from the simplistic view and go all out in terms of features and functionality by just a switch of launchers
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I'd go with a windows phone. Smooth interface, no lockups ever, and and it just works. The wp8 phones coming out look pretty nice.
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I feel u ACC
I have noticed I am kind of getting tired of the same thing over and over on Android... Maybe it's just this device tho because I always loved android until this device... Maybe that's why..
I really look forward to getting either a Note 2 or the next Nexus.. Until then I am really butthurt with the DS. I hate sliders, hate that no HTC support. Hate HTC. Hate small screen. Hate crappy resolution. Hate the design of this phone.
Sorry for the rant.
I hope that you love Windows phone tho bud! I've used a girls WP7 and it was very very smooth, however you can't do much on it, very smooth!
::Respect::
lesd777 said:
I'd go with a windows phone. Smooth interface, no lockups ever, and and it just works. The wp8 phones coming out look pretty nice.
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It just works.... By that logic we should all be sporting iTurds though
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The Lumia 920 looks fantastic. That being said, you don't have many options in terms of customization.
AgentCherryColla said:
I've kinda gotten tired of Android. Not entirely, but as a Mobile OS. I feel I use a phone on Android 10x more than a phone on another OS. Seriously, my average screen on time is 8 hours at the least. I flash Roms, and softbreak my phone 10+ times a week. Tired would be the wrong, I just need an OS that has less. I've been growing fond of Windows Phone. I enjoy the OS, the simplistic look. There's not much you can really do with it, and it just works. All phones on 7.5 are updating to 7.8(Which is 8, but for lower end devices). Mostly all Windows phones that where on 7.0, got updated to 7.5. So what am I saying? All there devices are being updated. There's been on device that's been peaking my interest. The Nokia Lumia 900. By Black Jesus this is a beautiful phone, and I love Nokia. This phone is getting the 7.8 update. The Nokia 920 seems like an even better device. I love android, and I have a Kindle running AOKP Jellybean. But that's all I can see my Android love going as of now. Can anybody convince me otherwise?
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What's there to decide?
Steve balmer is a royal ASSHOLE, and every single thing MS has ever produced has been a complete and unmatched piece of over priced SH1T.
Windows phone has been a nice change. I find my phone lasting around two days in average. This is with my RSS Feed, GMail, 4 hours of phone calls, and 1000 text. My phones so tiny for my hands tho' Xo The HTC Radar is supposed to get Windows 7.8. I called HTC, and they confirmed it would be getting the update. But not until the Nokia Lumia got it (Since they're Microsoft's partner). I have a GBC emulator which is the most important thing to me. They is a GBA one, but it can only play certain games. All together I'm happy. I got this phone from my Brother, and I didn't bother paying 150 for a replacement phone. I'm just going to wait for my upgrade, and get a One S (free for a couple months now). Then I'm going to sell it, and buy a Lumia 920 when it comes out. I'm happy, I'm not done with Android. It just feels the same to me. AOSP, Sense, TouchWiz, Blur. There all based off the same thing, and no matter what phone I have. I'm rocking an AOSP Rom. I just want a phone that works out the box, not one where I'm rooting to get battery percentage. One where I need to root in order to get my battery to last me a day. I'm tired of waking up and seeing the HTC One XXL + Limited Edition Ultra Max. A phone that is the International Version, but in America with a 2G of Ram. :T Oh Yeah, and it has a bigger battery. I just need a break from Android.
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Windows phone has been a nice change. I find my phone lasting around two days in average. This is with my RSS Feed, GMail, 4 hours of phone calls, and 1000 text. My phones so tiny for my hands tho' Xo The HTC Radar is supposed to get Windows 7.8. I called HTC, and they confirmed it would be getting the update. But not until the Nokia Lumia got it (Since they're Microsoft's partner). I have a GBC emulator which is the most important thing to me. They is a GBA one, but it can only play certain games. All together I'm happy. I got this phone from my Brother, and I didn't bother paying 150 for a replacement phone. I'm just going to wait for my upgrade, and get a One S (free for a couple months now). Then I'm going to sell it, and buy a Lumia 920 when it comes out. I'm happy, I'm not done with Android. It just feels the same to me. AOSP, Sense, TouchWiz, Blur. There all based off the same thing, and no matter what phone I have. I'm rocking an AOSP Rom. I just want a phone that works out the box, not one where I'm rooting to get battery percentage. One where I need to root in order to get my battery to last me a day. I'm tired of waking up and seeing the HTC One XXL + Limited Edition Ultra Max. A phone that is the International Version, but in America with a 2G of Ram. :T Oh Yeah, and it has a bigger battery. I just need a break from Android.
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I dunno man. Honestly I feel like the DS community is too small, in part because the MT4GS didn't go global. As a result we don't quite have that support ROM wise. I mean we have the standards, Virtuous Infinity, CM9 and Jellybean but both aren't quite stable and I don't see the devs working on CM9 stability at all. XMC has done his job for Jellybean and it's a DD rom for me but not quite stable. IDK maybe it just bothers me we don't have an even close to stable MIUI or the other roms that all the big phone release's have support wise.
I think if you got the next Nexus, the S3, or the GNEX you'd see so much rom support! All in all, I'd go for a phone with more devs over Windows. My friend bought a Lumia 900 and he loved it for a while, but eventually he just couldn't stand the lack of apps. Sure it was smooth but in the end he went back to his G-Note.
Appogee said:
I dunno man. Honestly I feel like the DS community is too small, in part because the MT4GS didn't go global. As a result we don't quite have that support ROM wise. I mean we have the standards, Virtuous Infinity, CM9 and Jellybean but both aren't quite stable and I don't see the devs working on CM9 stability at all. XMC has done his job for Jellybean and it's a DD rom for me but not quite stable. IDK maybe it just bothers me we don't have an even close to stable MIUI or the other roms that all the big phone release's have support wise.
I think if you got the next Nexus, the S3, or the GNEX you'd see so much rom support! All in all, I'd go for a phone with more devs over Windows. My friend bought a Lumia 900 and he loved it for a while, but eventually he just couldn't stand the lack of apps. Sure it was smooth but in the end he went back to his G-Note.
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The G-Note is the Ultimate Android device, especially on Jellybean. I forget how amazing that device is. I might need to rethink Windows Phone...but as of now. I want a 920