Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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It will be nearly impossible to do so since Windows is not open source. Meaning a Dev will have to reconstruct everything from scratch to get it to work. It will never be bug free or fully functional. Although it would be nice to have other OS options just for bragging rights.
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Dolfan058 said:
Exactly as the subject says, can a custom ROM be created that would allow the N5 to dual boot Android and Windows 8.1? This would blow my mind from an enterprise perspective. Essentially a Transformer Book Duet in our hands.
Feel free to bring me crashing back to reality if this is in no way possible lol.
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nexus 5 has an ARM cpu
closest thing that works on ARM cpus in the Windows RT... but good luck with the drivers and other stuff
there are new phones coming out with the Intel Clover Trail/Bay Trail architecture. these are fully x86/x64-compatible chips.... maybe someone would be able to load windows on those... then you run into the problem of having the radio modem work in windows and other stuff
Well @Cotulla sort of made it happen for the HD2 in this thread. It wasn't Windows 8.1, but it was WPH. I think that's a pretty good start.
He's also been working with the HTC One to get Windows RT or WP8 working (here), which is pretty sweet. I'm not sure how much he could help with the Nexus 5, though, since I don't think he has one.
might as well buy a windows phone
Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
I'm planning on buying a Windows Phone at the end of the year (waiting for the mythical McLaren phone), but I was kind of hoping I'd be able to do something crazy and try loading Windows on this beast. it certainly has the specs for it, although I admittedly have no clue as to how difficult it would be (didn't take into account the on-screen buttons, etc).
I can dream though!
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Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
I'm planning on buying a Windows Phone at the end of the year (waiting for the mythical McLaren phone), but I was kind of hoping I'd be able to do something crazy and try loading Windows on this beast. it certainly has the specs for it, although I admittedly have no clue as to how difficult it would be (didn't take into account the on-screen buttons, etc).
I can dream though!
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Nope.
Dolfan058 said:
Bringing this back from the dead --- I definitely meant Windows Phone 8.1, not the desktop client.
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Well @Cotulla sort of made it happen for the HD2 in this thread. It wasn't Windows 8.1, but it was WPH. I think that's a pretty good start.
He's also been working with the HTC One to get Windows RT or WP8 working (here), which is pretty sweet. I'm not sure how much he could help with the Nexus 5, though, since I don't think he has one.
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The HTC HD2 was a Windows phone and he brought Android to it. Since Android is open source it's much easier to port Android to Windows devices than Windows to Android devices.
I have a very clear and scientific answer to this.....no.
Plus...if it were possible, the windows OS would be warez....and we don't talk about such things on XDA. ?
Yeah, licensing fees from Microsoft anyways lol
There is nothing in the Terms of use about using Windows Phone on other hardware, nor is there a licence agreement to adhere to or a purchasable licence for the OS - so I wouldn't necessarily say Windows Phone would be Warez
That said it's still nigh-on impossible.
Related
Someone apparently ported the Windows Mobile Phone 7 to an HTC.... Hopefully coming to a "Dual-Booting Samsung Captivate" near you?!
I would link it, but I'm apparently not allowed?
This doesn't belong in Development.
If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it
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If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it
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no need to bash on other OS because you prefer android. i'd love to see windows phone 7 on my captivate too. first impression doesn't mean anything, you have to play with an OS and knows what it has to offer and the feels of it to pass judgement.
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If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it
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LMAO +1 to that!
akachay said:
no need to bash on other OS because you prefer android. i'd love to see windows phone 7 on my captivate too. first impression doesn't mean anything, you have to play with an OS and knows what it has to offer and the feels of it to pass judgement.
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I'd be very interested in this. I actually REALLY, REALLY want a Windows Phone 7 device
I like my android, but, Phone 7 looks real nice
No support in the OS for hummingbird processors, if you want a port you would have to write that in. Thats why samsung used snapdragons in the focus and omnia 7.
Blah. 10 char
Having played with win phone 7, I actually like to do the opposite, can we put Android on a win 7 device? knowing windows sysreq, I'm sure it's pretty decent hardware...
Wait
I'm going to wait for Gingerbread, I know WP7 looks great, but I have a feeling that Gingerbread is going to look even better, so I'm going to wait until I have a peek at what it looks like.
+2 to that
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LMAO +1 to that!
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I agree with Reefermattness
+1
I know better to judge before I have had a month with the phone. Judgement shall be held until I actually have experience with the phone and os.. Pre judgement is kind of dumb, ios users do it to android all the time. Now people on android do it to wp7.
dirtyballoonot said:
I'd be very interested in this. I actually REALLY, REALLY want a Windows Phone 7 device
I like my android, but, Phone 7 looks real nice
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If I wanted windows on my phone, I would just take a crap on it
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That made me LOL
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No support in the OS for hummingbird processors, if you want a port you would have to write that in. Thats why samsung used snapdragons in the focus and omnia 7.
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Symmetric said:
Having played with win phone 7, I actually like to do the opposite, can we put Android on a win 7 device? knowing windows sysreq, I'm sure it's pretty decent hardware...
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If WP7 turns out to be a massive failure, or falls behind in the OS race, I bet we'll see it' Otherwise, I doubt it. Hacks will likely go to porting newer versions of WP7 instead. If they wanted android, they'd have bought it, since there are tons of high end android phones wherever they buy their wp7 devices.
I would LOVE to have Windows Phone 7 on this instead. It's basically Android, but with all of it's major problems address (and the introduction of some new ones, I'm sure). But the positives clearly outweigh the negatives... Google needs to take a lesson from Microsoft and make some big changes to Android. Namely, updates straight from them.
But it's not going to happen.
I think it can be done.
The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
So, Whos up for it?!
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I would LOVE to have Windows Phone 7 on this instead. It's basically Android, but with all of it's major problems address (and the introduction of some new ones, I'm sure). But the positives clearly outweigh the negatives... Google needs to take a lesson from Microsoft and make some big changes to Android. Namely, updates straight from them.
But it's not going to happen.
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How is it android? It's closer to iOS than android.
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The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
So, Whos up for it?!
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No, the focus is not. It's got the same internals basically as an older HTC like the Evo, not a hummbingbird.
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The Sansumg focus is a galaxy with windows phone 7. we have the most ingenius and resourfull community if it is possible, here is were it will happen .
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no it only borrows the screen. it is spec'd as a snapdragon, not a hummingbird!
and why would anyone in there right mind want phone 7 if they can have android? why not just buy a focus with out dated hardware?
the hts phones running windows mobile are because the hd2 had a bootloader that could support multiple os's. i would like the bootloader ported so we can run multiple android roms like there are doing in the evo forum but id never install phone 7 or winmo 6.whatever from what im looking at the interface is so limited you might as well port iOS 2.2 because they are about the same.
Not going to happen. The hardware is too different, and unlike when you port Android to another piece of hardware, WP7 is not open source.
And yes, the Samsung Focus is NOT a Galaxy S in any way except for the Super AMOLED screen.
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and why would anyone in there right mind want phone 7 if they can have android?
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Some people prefer things that work. Some people prefer getting the latest firmware at all times. Not this "let's wait 7 god damn months after FroYo is released before you actually get it" crap. Some people want a UI that isn't ugly, lag filled, and unintuitive.
It's not perfect, but for a first release it's pretty damn good.
With the UnBrickable Mod?
I read that webOs was ported to the Evo, and many mobile Os can be flashed on the HD2.
So, is possible to see other mobile Operating systems on our smartphone?
Share your experience, i wanna know about the incredible world of mobile operating systems
Happy New Year 2 all the estimated Developers and all the members of XDA!!!
Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too
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Not trying to be a ****, but why is it so hard to type 'to' instead of 2? Rest of your post is written well...
Happy new year to you too [/QUOT
Lucky you, you managed to succeed without trying
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So far, nobody answered my question....i'm confused
doubtful. Not enough interest.
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doubtful. Not enough interest.
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Far from it. The reason we'll probably never see webos or wp7 on the nexus s is that neither of those os's are fully open source like android, in fact wp7 is completely closed source.
webOS was ported to the Evo 3D but virtually nothing worked from what I remember, making it far from useful, useable, or anything past booting really.
Ios - Never been ported to anything non-apple (as far as I know).
Meego - Possible I guess, but I dont know why anyone would bother putting that amount of time into it.
WebOS - Looking possible, its going open source i hear, but the nexus S community is only going to decrease due to the release of the Galaxy Nexus
Windows Mobile - Dead
Windows Phone 7 - This was ported to the HD2 as the HD2 was used as a test phone for the OS and the drivers got leaked! Microsoft used it as it was a high spec Windows Mobile phone. (It got android as it was very similar to other HTC phones that ran Android, such as the N1 and Desire)
Ubuntu - I guess, probably wouldn't be too hard to get going, why anyone would want to I have no idea.
BB OS - hahaha...
so.... no interest.
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I realize this isn't what you're looking for, but if you're just interested in emulating the WP7 look, give Launcher7 from the market a try. I'd also recommend using the Ubermusic music player with the optional metro theme.
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http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/op...linux-booting-on-arm-based-hardware/index.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5876384/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-boot-options-locked-down
If you're hankering after a Windows 8 tablet but thought you might also run Android, think again: Microsoft is planning to lock down the boot options on all ARM devices running its new OS.
Will they never learn?
and i was reading that an app has been developed to give Ipads access to windows 7 through a virtual storage (cloud) so that windows 7 can be used with all its potential on Ipads, whenever, anywhere and everywhere...
Those rich custards are being treated as if they deserve it.
Btw i read that ages ago (months?) about the windows 8 thing...
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http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/op...linux-booting-on-arm-based-hardware/index.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5876384/arm-devices-running-windows-8-will-have-boot-options-locked-down
If you're hankering after a Windows 8 tablet but thought you might also run Android, think again: Microsoft is planning to lock down the boot options on all ARM devices running its new OS.
Will they never learn?
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It was hacked months ago....
http://news.techeye.net/software/windows-8-already-hacked
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It was hacked months ago....
http://news.techeye.net/software/windows-8-already-hacked
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"Kleissner told Ars Technica that the exploit did not currently target the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), but instead went after legacy BIOS."
These ARM devices will not have a legacy BIOS (the bios as such is an x86 thing), so this hack won't work on them.
This is Microsoft abusing their Windows monopoly, plain and simple. Offering discount licensing for Win8 only to companies who give in to their demands. Instead of playing with browser choosers, *this* is the kind of stuff the EU should be fighting against.
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"Kleissner told Ars Technica that the exploit did not currently target the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), but instead went after legacy BIOS."
These ARM devices will not have a legacy BIOS (the bios as such is an x86 thing), so this hack won't work on them.
This is Microsoft abusing their Windows monopoly, plain and simple. Offering discount licensing for Win8 only to companies who give in to their demands. Instead of playing with browser choosers, *this* is the kind of stuff the EU should be fighting against.
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Ah, I stand corrected then.
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You can't blame them for locking it down. They know that people will buy the devices for the hardware and then install their favourite OS, which is a bit of a kick in the teeth really!
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You can't blame them for locking it down. They know that people will buy the devices for the hardware and then install their favourite OS, which is a bit of a kick in the teeth really!
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Who gives a ****. They got there money now let people do what they want with what THEY BOUGHT.
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Who gives a ****. They got there money now let people do what they want with what THEY BOUGHT.
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agreed. if you pay for it. you should be able to do whatever u want to it
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Probably not the cost-conscious ones. Don't forget, any tablet with Win8 is going to be sold with the MS tax included. An android device with the same hardware is always going to be cheaper.
I highly doubt manufacturers will stop making high-end android devices any time soon, so you'll always have the option of getting the latest hardware (for less!) by buying an android-native tablet.
I highly doubt manufacturers will stop making high-end android devices any time soon, so you'll always have the option of getting the latest hardware (for less!) by buying an android-native tablet.[/QUOTE]
I dont doubt that eather. There will still be open, highend Tablets. But still i realy dont think its ok from MS to force manufactors to use there secure boot, and lock them from alternative OSes. Thats the way there heading. Not only on Tablets. The whole Windows System is geting more closed. That they want to force users of ARM Tablets to use there Appstore is only one nasty thing. But they tried the closed system before with chips that check all the software on the system, and keep away all not certifyed software. They dident manage to do that in Windows 7, and maybe they still cant do it totaly on Windows 8, but im afraid with Windows 9 they will. I know that is still far away but its coming. And its realy nasty.
You can already see and feel the results of that from time to time. On my old, 32bit Notbook i had a security software to encrypt data and mount it as a external HD when you want to use it. On my new(64bit) Laptop i couldent use it anymore, just couse it was an open source project and they dident had the money to buy the driver certificat from Microsoft. By now i use TrueCrypt. Another Project that had the money to pay for it. Thats a good peace of software to but i realy dont like what MS is doing to Windows. I like XP and i love 7, but i hate were Windows is going!
well none of us exactly know yet, but will the surface be compatible of running OS X? it's a powerful tablet and it probably could handle the graphics and the OS, but it just depends on the processor, so would it?
RT: Definitely no
Pro. Kinda tricky. There will be no drivers for touch screen probably. I don't know if keyboard works on simple USB. Plus, there probably won't be motherboard support, which would kill battery life. Oh. Surface uses UEFI. Mac OS X also uses UEFI. But Surface UEFI is lockdown, so it would be hard to trick Mac OS X into thinking that Surface is a Mac. In addition, installing Mac OS X in most cases is illegal. (Unless you are an Apple Engineer). Simple answer is no.
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RT: Definitely no
Pro. Kinda tricky. There will be no drivers for touch screen probably. I don't know if keyboard works on simple USB. Plus, there probably won't be motherboard support, which would kill battery life. Oh. Surface uses UEFI. Mac OS X also uses UEFI. But Surface UEFI is lockdown, so it would be hard to trick Mac OS X into thinking that Surface is a Mac. In addition, installing Mac OS X in most cases is illegal. (Unless you are an Apple Engineer). Simple answer is no.
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ok then i get it, well then, itll be fine now. Thanks for ur help
you never know what may happen when it comes out.
As a Macbook Pro owner, I have to ask: why in heck would you want that bloated, tacky-ass OSX on Microsoft's beautiful tablet with its magnificent, modern UI?
Once Windows 8 tablets start shipping, I'm ditching Apple forever. Sold off my iPhone for a WP7 last year (recently upgraded to a Titan II, also), sold my iPad a month ago (thank god, right before Apple announced they were ****ing over iPad 1 owners), and I'm looking forward to ditching my Macbook Pro, primarily because of OSX and its ugly, tacky, skewmorphism bull****.
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I have to ask: why in heck would you want that bloated, tacky-ass OSX on Microsoft's beautiful tablet with its magnificent, modern UI?
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+1, I keep wondering why people want to be able to run OSX/Android on a Microsoft tablet... PLEASE BUY AN iPAD OR ANDROID TABLET IF YOU PREFER THAT OS.
ya'll are right, i'm running windows 8 on my notebook and it is the best UI i have experienced, although there is a few bugs right now, below is my video on windows 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSj3Fdqw8K0
Just need some more apps. Is MS accepting apps already? I want a google reader and nothing until now..
I think there already was one a few years ago, I think it was called a modbook pro.
Modbook is actually coming out with a new model in the fall
That new one hasx great specs
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I don't believe that OS X could run on the Surface's ARM processor.
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As long as surface is using intel then yes you can.
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Alexander-HTC said:
RT: Definitely no
Pro. Kinda tricky. There will be no drivers for touch screen probably. I don't know if keyboard works on simple USB. Plus, there probably won't be motherboard support, which would kill battery life. Oh. Surface uses UEFI. Mac OS X also uses UEFI. But Surface UEFI is lockdown, so it would be hard to trick Mac OS X into thinking that Surface is a Mac. In addition, installing Mac OS X in most cases is illegal. (Unless you are an Apple Engineer). Simple answer is no.
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its not illegal.
Yes, give tonymac and insanely some time... it will happen
its not illegal.
Yes, give tonymac and insanely some time... it will happen
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yea, they will find a way...
This procedure would not be possible, because, not only the mac does not support the touchscreen, but also because it would be illegal.
The only way would be to use a virtual machine and many tricks (the touch screen would simulate the mouse and not a touch interface, the keyboard can be used as touch, but should be incompatible (only one USB keyboard would be supported)
Then, who knows...
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its not illegal.
Yes, give tonymac and insanely some time... it will happen
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Yes it is illegal, read the EULA some time. You can only install OS X on Apple hardware. Hacking the install DVD's to make Hackintoshes violates that EULA. You can debate it all you want, but I won't cater to it. Apple made sure that that their OS can only be used on Apple hardware after the Mac clone contracts were terminated back in the late '90's.
I read as much as I could understand, and slapped the apple sticker that came with my powerbook on the box.
But I play music loud enough for other people to hear it too, which is illegal according to hollywood.
;-)
sorry but why do want this?
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Yes it is illegal, read the EULA some time. You can only install OS X on Apple hardware. Hacking the install DVD's to make Hackintoshes violates that EULA. You can debate it all you want, but I won't cater to it. Apple made sure that that their OS can only be used on Apple hardware after the Mac clone contracts were terminated back in the late '90's.
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Just because you won't cater to it , it doesn't mean anyone else who installed os x is going to jail.
Ever heard of someone going to jail for building a hackintosh?
Neither did I......
First come smiles. Then come lies. Last is gunfire.
Hello, I am running Paranoid Android and am very happy with it. I'm going a little flash crazy though haha. I was curious if there was a way to flash windows mobile to my HOX? Can this be done? If not is there an app or tweak that I could do to get that windows look and feel to it?
Thanks!!
No, there are legal issues with porting windows to a non windows phone
There are plenty of launchers on the market that have the look.
Your not going to find much more than that.
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Hello, I am running Paranoid Android and am very happy with it. I'm going a little flash crazy though haha. I was curious if there was a way to flash windows mobile to my HOX? Can this be done? If not is there an app or tweak that I could do to get that windows look and feel to it?
Thanks!!
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launcher 7 in the play store.
Only phone I know of that runs windows and android is the HTC HD2
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absolutelygrim said:
launcher 7 in the play store.
Only phone I know of that runs windows and android is the HTC HD2
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Launcher 8 is there too
There are no drivers to make WP/WM work with our phone, they would have to be created from scratch. And WP is closed source, so as mentioned there are legal issues, as well as the closed sourced nature making it all that much harder to work with. Technically its "possible", but the amount of work involved makes it completely infeasible. It would probably take hundreds of hours. Much easier to just buy a Windows Phone.
Any sort of port would violate the WP EULA, and you can be sure any sharing of the port would be viewed by MS as software piracy. Frankly, I'm not sure why they even allow the mock-WP launchers since they're copying the distinctive look of WP.