I really want to do this. please help if you can thanks..
Unfortunately this will not be possible as WP7 does not support the process in the Desire HD.
Someone would have to write the driver for chipset, which is highly unlikely to happen.
MS are supposed to be releasing a new spec for WP7 (probably at MIX) and it is possible that the new spec will include support for the same chipset as the Desire HD uses but until that happens, not possible
I have the normal Desire, and GSMareana is telling me that the Htc Mozart, Has the same chip set and all the specs are like the same apart from the OS...
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I have the normal Desire, and GSMareana is telling me that the Htc Mozart, Has the same chip set and all the specs are like the same apart from the OS...
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No means no. I've got 1USD and its the same value as 1AUD, can i use it in australia? No. Just because 2 things are intrinsically the same they may be extrinsically different. Sorry man.
The Desire has exactly the same hardware as any WP7 device. In theory it could run WP7. The proof is the HTC HD2 which runs WP7. However somebody has to write a new bootloader and port WP7 as was the case with the HD2.
Anyone know what OS's I can port on my Htc Desire?
None at the moment and probably forever. There are only 2 phones in the world that can run miltiple OS's - The HD2 (WM6.5, Android, WP7 and probably MeeGo in the near future) and Nokia N900 (Maemo and Android). Of course some other HTC WinMo devices can run Android off the SD card but that's not a complete OS change because after reboot you are back in WinMo.
Just download launcher 7
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Technically, if someone (or a group of developers) were to put down the effort, this could be possible. However, you have to keep in mind, most developers here work on their free time, and their lives are not dedicated to developing custom drivers and firmwares for all possible hardware. There has to be interest, and once there is, progress will follow. For now, there is no interest. Perhaps you could start something yourself OP.
i tell you how to get wp7, sell your desire, and buy wp7!
hallo
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hi??? lol...........
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Hi guys.
am not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but there isnt a section for it as yet so asking here only.
I really liked the specs of the upcoming HTC Leo, and might wana buy it in christmas.
but there is one thing i want to know is that being such an advanced device with 1ghz processor, 320mb ram, capacitative 4.3" screen, is it ready for a WM7 update?
any idea on that?
and if its not and MS want a much stronger device then is MS trying to bring WM7 to netbooks or what? cause anything more that HTC Leo is not going to be a CelPhone Device.
IF someone knows anything then do clear this plz.
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Hi guys.
am not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but there isnt a section for it as yet so asking here only.
I really liked the specs of the upcoming HTC Leo, and might wana buy it in christmas.
but there is one thing i want to know is that being such an advanced device with 1ghz processor, 320mb ram, capacitative 4.3" screen, is it ready for a WM7 update?
any idea on that?
and if its not and MS want a much stronger device then is MS trying to bring WM7 to netbooks or what? cause anything more that HTC Leo is not going to be a CelPhone Device.
IF someone knows anything then do clear this plz.
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I think the Leo will support the upgrade to WM 7, there are plenty of web pages which talk about it, for example i read this one: http://www.gsmdome.com/htc/htc-leo-supports-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-first_9955
am really glad 2read dat. i hope dat its true.
Despite the hardware, don't expect any OS or Manila upgrades for HTC devices as long as they are not officially announced as from the release. I reckon that HTC will not provide any CE7 upgrade for the HTC Leo - that's typical HTC support, you'll see - that's also the experience from the Diamond and Blackstone devices with regards to WM6.5. Of course, there will be CE7 ROMs which can be flashed on an unofficial basis.
Georgeous2008, WM7/CE7 can't just be "ported" to current WM6/CE5 devices, so don't claim that for sure. I heard the whole kernel and driver structures are different. The only chance of backporting WM7 is if a device with (almost) exactly the same hardware gets released with WM7.
Specs say there will be a WM7 upgrade. They meet all the requirements of WM7, including things that don't really make sense in WM6.5, such as the digital compass and the capacitive screen. Neither are extensively supported in WM6.5, but are requirements for WM7.
That does't guarantee that HTC will provide a WM7 upgrade, of course.
basically, it has sufficient hardware specs, but it is unlikely that HTC will provide an update like with the td2 and tpro 2 with winmo 6.5
But there MAY be a chance of you being able to flash it IF ROMs can be created but nothing can be said as of yet
having a mammoth device like leo and using it for wm6.5 aint full justice to the power it has. and it'llbe poor strategy to bring leo but without the option of wm7. hope htc does hv plans. cause i believe leo's power is for wm7 only.
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Georgeous2008, WM7/CE7 can't just be "ported" to current WM6/CE5 devices, so don't claim that for sure. I heard the whole kernel and driver structures are different. The only chance of backporting WM7 is if a device with (almost) exactly the same hardware gets released with WM7.
Specs say there will be a WM7 upgrade. They meet all the requirements of WM7, including things that don't really make sense in WM6.5, such as the digital compass and the capacitive screen. Neither are extensively supported in WM6.5, but are requirements for WM7.
That does't guarantee that HTC will provide a WM7 upgrade, of course.
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All it really needs is someone from HTC to write a compatible Kernel for the specific device. It really doesn't mean the hardware has to be exactly the same on every device, it just means HTC has to consider it a time-worthy idea. Although at this point, I'm not thinking it's going to happen. We still have a 6.5.1 release on its way, and who knows when Microsoft will release WM7.
To be perfectly honest, I think it was a mistake for Microsoft to invest all of this time and money into the WM6.5 half a*s OS. They should have just went straight to WM7.
Basically, to sum up and put it in perspective, you prolly won't find out too much accurate information about running and OS that hasn't been released to anyone on a device that hasn't been released...
is it possioble to run windows 7 OS on a nokia n8?
Iirc WP7 is closed source.. and it would be difficult
Its hard to say at such a early stage, but there could be a possiblilty with the devs on XDA
im going to go out on a limb here and say no way in heck lol. HD2 which has almost identical hardware to every WP7 device doesn't have a port. Likely so you won't have access to live services, I.E. marketplace! so it would be very useless.
Couple that with being closed source, and MS controlling the drivers, you probably wont see this OS running on non approved hardware.
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im going to go out on a limb here and say no way in heck lol. HD2 which has almost identical hardware to every WP7 device doesn't have a port. Likely so you won't have access to live services, I.E. marketplace! so it would be very useless.
Couple that with being closed source, and MS controlling the drivers, you probably wont see this OS running on non approved hardware.
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Agreed, but this was the same case with Android, nobody thought it would be possible to port it to the HTC sense phones at first, but now we can see many Android Ports
Nokia has completely own hardware. You can revive any device by using Jtag programmer but not Nokia, it has all own, also OS Symbian is no more used on other devices .
Nokia vs Others.
Sad to say Nokia is in past.
Just first article in google has nothing to proove anymore: http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/2010/11/10/how-nokia-lost-its-global-market-share-more-than-8-percent
too bad...nokia's hardware is by far the best in the entire smartphone market imo. HTC is almost catching up the hardware quality that nokia has. As for the proprietary hinge mechanism that nokia has, beats out all other competition. If only their OS was not so aged... hope maemo gives them the boost that will revive them back to their former position.
Nokia VS hTC
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too bad...nokia's hardware is by far the best in the entire smartphone market imo. HTC is almost catching up the hardware quality that nokia has. As for the proprietary hinge mechanism that nokia has, beats out all other competition. If only their OS was not so aged... hope maemo gives them the boost that will revive them back to their former position.
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So NOT true, nokia its crap, thier OS (Symbian) sucks bad, HTC have the best smartphones in the market.
I know someone that got N8 and he said that is freezes A-L-O-T and the battery cover its stupid, U gotta open the bolts, so u cant reboot it every where...
Nokia... I think hTC its much better, HD2 can run many different OSs...
EDIT: not just htc are better (but they R the best... ) apple is better too such as LG...
Ok... well maybe we could port android?
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So NOT true, nokia its crap, thier OS (Symbian) sucks bad, HTC have the best smartphones in the market.
I know someone that got N8 and he said that is freezes A-L-O-T and the battery cover its stupid, U gotta open the bolts, so u cant reboot it every where...
Nokia... I think hTC its much better, HD2 can run many different OSs...
EDIT: not just htc are better (but they R the best... ) apple is better too such as LG...
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That's the worst argumented post i've read in a while.
I know a friend who had a friend who knows someone with a N8.
I own both the N8 and a HTC HD2 with Android Gingerbread port and had a HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7 for a few weeks to play with so its safe for me to say I have experiance on all aspects.
The HTC HD2 with Gingerbread froze as much as my N8 did! Both a few time's in the couple of months i've been playing with them.
As far as resetting the N8: hold down the power button for more then 5s and the device will reset! No need to remove the battery!
As for which device is best: they both have their strenghts and weaknesses.
It's what you need from your phone that makes one the best phone for you.
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Probably not. For HTC device almost all devices have identical hardware cross platform.
This makes it easier to port the OS.
Nokia uses a different kind of CPU (ARM 11) as to HTC (Qualcomm Snapdragon with ARM v7 instructions) see here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(System_on_Chip), which will require a complete rewrite of the kernel and drivers for it. (Hope i'm saying this right, English is not my native language and I'm not a programmer )
i think n8 can't run the wp7 because of the hard ware
i think n8 can't run the wp7 because of the hard ware
WP7 need 3d acelerate
1ghz cpu
wvga
nokia o htc......windows7
For now, I think the Nokia N8 best model that ever appeared on the market ...
I think first next mobile phone (any manufacturer) that it had characteristics of N8 with more powerful processor
and memory (eg with Windows 7 or Android) and a standard USB and HDMI inputs, will have a market in the next 5 years!
FM Transmitter
12 Mp CarlZais
etc
i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
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i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
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Without htc proprietary drivers for the specific device i highly doubt it's possible, and htc has no interest in realeasing something like that i guess...
Android on HD7 (Unconfirmed real or fake but probably is real): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU&feature=player_embedded
Unfortunately, the video is hosted by the notorious xda.cn (don't ask me about it..).. Maybe there is a beta on DFT
mrglw25 said:
i have a htc hd7 i dont really dig the whole windows thing is there a possible way to put android on it???? if so would somebody plz help me
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I used to think Android would be better on my HD7, when I had it. But then NoDo came along and dealt with all of the issues I had with WP7 and now I would never put Android on my WP7 device. Of course, I no longer have my HD7. I moved to AT&T and got a Focus.
I don't recommend Android on your HD7. Wait until Mango gets here and enjoy the world's best OS.
Glad to say no, why would you buy a wp7 device and turn it into an android device when there's android devices with much more powerful hardware in a similar price range... Not to mention as shotty as that devices battery life is with androids poor power management you'd get so little battery life on it that it'd be nearly painful. Wp7 is awesome but this was a poor choice on your part.
I tell ya...if you want an excellent experience on an HD7'ish device, find an HD2 and flash Mango to it. I did with mine and have been floored how well it looks. My HD7 never looked this good. Mango must be handling the display differently than NoDo or how the HD7 handled it because it is amazing. It has all of the color richness of SAMOLED but in a crisper look...no pentile ugliness.
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Android on HD7 (Unconfirmed real or fake but probably is real): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f3hTkoDlkU&feature=player_embedded
Unfortunately, the video is hosted by the notorious xda.cn (don't ask me about it..).. Maybe there is a beta on DFT
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thats chinese copy of HD7.
S-off & rooted, next step dual boot wp7 & android (WP7 Development Section)
So... Any developers out there willing to create a WP7 ROM for the HTC Sensation? Just making a note of the possibilities for this "Next Generation HD2"
No WP7 Development Section?
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This has already been suggested and is very unlikely to happen (not to say impossible)... the hd2 has the same cpu and the same hardware as other wp7 phones, it is totally closed source so the gpu on the qualcom has no drivers available at all, then theres the rest like bt stack. mic etc... its hard enough porting open source android to old 528mhz qualcom phones never mind a closed source os!
I would like to see it happen just for the proof of concept but i know how hard it is writing drivers with the I/O specs sheets so dont hold out much hope ;-D
I don't know if this is possible. The HD2 was a 'special case' as the stock OS was WM6.5. This a base for installing WP7, as the base OS for WM6.5 and WP7 are generally the same, as I understand it. This means that WP7 could be ported to the HD2, as it didn't need all the drivers and stuff.
But with the Sensation, WM6.5 was not the stock OS, of course. So if we wanted to get WP7 on the Sensation, we'd need to create drivers for it , which if at all possible would be a long and laborious process, as WP7 is not open source, as Android is.
Having said that, I'd love it if someone could prove me wrong and we could get a WP7 port up and running
Won't happen. Dual core processor is not supported in WP7
Waiting for "Windows Mobile 6.5.5" in Sensation...
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This has already been suggested and is very unlikely to happen (not to say impossible)... the hd2 has the same cpu and the same hardware as other wp7 phones, it is totally closed source so the gpu on the qualcom has no drivers available at all, then theres the rest like bt stack. mic etc... its hard enough porting open source android to old 528mhz qualcom phones never mind a closed source os!
I would like to see it happen just for the proof of concept but i know how hard it is writing drivers with the I/O specs sheets so dont hold out much hope ;-D
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I think I will soon scrap the sensation and get the ultimate device - HD2 - android, winmo, meego, ubuntu linux.
freakzone said:
I think I will soon scrap the sensation and get the ultimate device - HD2 - android, winmo, meego, ubuntu linux.
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Ultimate device? You can't be serious.....
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the HD2 is a fun toy when compared to the sensation, believe me i loved mine, had to sell it, and now im getting another one just to use as a PDA
will be running NAND sense3.0 (but prolly flashing a new one every week ), SD build honeycomb and ubuntu 10.10 off sd thru nandroid
but in this day, its just a toy that set A LOT of standards for the devs/users here
WP7 on a non licensed device WILL cause legal issues. Good luck on your endeavours.
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WP7 on a non licensed device WILL cause legal issues. Good luck on your endeavours.
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I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
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I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
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Not at all. You can buy the license for Windows 7 and install it, can't buy WP7.
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Not at all. You can buy the license for Windows 7 and install it, can't buy WP7.
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Yes, the point is that with the HD2 you buy winmo 6.5 licence and not winmo 7, as soon as you install winmo 7 without buying it (not that you can, but theoretically) you're still a pirate.
I don't think that the dev community is interested in that anyway.
What about ubuntu linux then? Can we have that?
Open source is legal.
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I'm not very good with all that legal stuff, but do you think that the case with the HD2 is similar. It is licensed for winmo 6.5 but not for 7, however it gets mo 7 and there aren't any legal issues. Shouldn't the case be the same for say an android device.
I mean isn't it like if I buy a laptop with win xp and then I get win 7 from my friend's laptop and install it (theoretically), it would still be piracy . I would be licensed for win xp but not for win 7?
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Yes they are similar. You are licensed to use one one thing on a specific device and if you don't purchase a new license for the newer Windows then you are pirating.
For Ubuntu that's a different type of licensing altogether. Its open source and you have the rights to modify the code to make it work and in return you have to contribute the code.
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I understand the difference between open/proprietary source code and the fact that you need to pay for an os/software.
There are a lot of linux distros which are paid.
Imo there is not much difference between running wp7 on a hd2 or on a sensation. Both ways it is supposedly illegal, however the HD2 users get away with it easily.
If you guys remember when Da_g was posting the latest builds of winmo, some of them were taken down because of a request from microsoft. Nothing happened except for the removal of some links from the site.
So to the point, lets say that someone can supposedly buy a copy of winmo 7, then what?
My desktop experience would lead me to believe I need a virtual machine. The dual-core sensation should be enough to run it. Then a lot of stuff will not be working, such as phone, wifi, bt and a whole lot more but we need to start somewhere . That's how they started porting android to winmo devices - nothing was working in the begining
Ubuntu for example is Open Source and anything you pay for is technical support. DBM is rewritten beyond that of GPL which you have to license to use(See OSX vs. Hakitosh). Hakintosh lost not because Apple is a large company. They lost because they broke the licensing agreement and distributed perprietary code.
So yes it is wrong to distribute certain types of Linux distros. Yes it is wrong to port Windows phone 7 to another device that isn't licensed for it. It's one of the reasons Android is popular. Their only downfall will be fragmentation and getting companies like MS, Sony, Blizzard, etc to develop their popular software for it.
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Win7 was ported very easily to HTC HD2 because of other Win7 Phones that are extremely similar to the HD2 (Ex: HD7).
So if HTC releases a Win7 Phone that is very similar to the Sensation, then there will be hope of porting Win7 to the Sensation.
I personally would love to see Mango on the Sensation. Win7 has potential.
However, there will be issues. You will not have access to the marketplace (No apps ) nor to Windows live services. There are ways around it, but are not usually easy or convenient.
I know most people do not like WP7 as android is superior, yet I was wondering if there was any way to port it over onto the sensation, a bit like the HD2 as surely it could if we thought about it?
No for the millionth time.
1) wp7 needs a license, which sensation doesn't have therefore making it illegal.
2) wp7 doesn't have ANY support for multi core.
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zm15011992 said:
I know most people do not like WP7 as android is superior, yet I was wondering if there was any way to port it over onto the sensation, a bit like the HD2 as surely it could if we thought about it?
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WP7 being closed source as well, the HD2 was a bit of an exception since the hardware was practically the same as the HD7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417728&highlight=wp7