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[Fake-Unrooted-ROM] Why unroot? Flash this! Stock Froyo.

Returning your Evo anytime soon? Why unroot when you can just flash a completely plain Jane looking stock Froyo ROM that's lacking the Superuser apk? The geniuses over at Sprint or Best Buy will never be able to tell the difference.​This is netarchy's HTC OTA Froyo 2.2, *FINAL*, build 3.36.651.6 (Rooted) Odexed ROM, the -only- thing that has been changed is the removal of the Superuser Permissions apk.​
Wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache, then flash.
http://www.4shared.com/file/0XGojjon/StockROM.html
If you use this, feel free to gloat in this thread about how you just returned a rooted Evo to Sprint or Best Buy. ​

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Are you trying to get over on the man?
If so, where's the" like' button?

It goes further than just the rom...truth be told, there's a system they can actually look in to see what rom the phone is running...(I worked for Sprint), but I don't think they're smart enough to look at it...I'll post shots of what it looks like...sometime this week...I've been meaning to give a shout to all the Devs to add something that allows a person to make the Rom look stock...

RavenII said:
It goes further than just the rom...truth be told, there's a system they can actually look in to see what rom the phone is running...(I worked for Sprint), but I don't think they're smart enough to look at it...I'll post shots of what it looks like...sometime this week...I've been meaning to give a shout to all the Devs to add something that allows a person to make the Rom look stock...
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Yeah, this ROM totally preys on the not so clever reps that work at stores like Sprint and Best Buy. No offense, of course. I actually returned my last Evo with a stock ROM that was still sporting the Superuser Permissions apk. They didn't catch that.10 times out of 9 they're not going to even know about rooting or what to look for to spot a rooted device.

Anyone working for them that wouldnt catch this, wouldnt catch a non stock rom no matter what it is. Anybody actually looking to tell if a phone is rooted will look for a custom recovery.

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Anyone working for them that wouldnt catch this, wouldnt catch a non stock rom no matter what it is. Anybody actually looking to tell if a phone is rooted will look for a custom recovery.
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I highly doubt any rep is looking for a custom recovery, although that would be the thing to look for. But seeing the Superuser Permissions app might cause a rep to grow a brain and do some investigating, which could potentially lead to some problems returning your Evo, if you are in fact, returning it rooted. I'm just trying to circumvent some hassle by eliminating that possible hitch.

Sheer genius.
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neckface said:
10 times out of 9 they're not going to even know about rooting or what to look for to spot a rooted device.
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Lmao!!!!! That's funny. 10 out of nine.
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can i flash this on top of a 1.47 rooted rom?

jebus27 said:
can i flash this on top of a 1.47 rooted rom?
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yes, of coarse

LOL even with a custom rom and boot screen Sprint took my phone back. Who cares? rooting doesn't effect your hardware so why would they even care? Flashing an official RUU undoes rooting for the most part anyway (minus unrevoked forever)

Thanks you saved me a hour before trading in my sons evo

Thx for that, you saved me from unrooting (again) and rooting my phone (again).
I have to take it to the service to fix my camera.

No-No
neckface said:
Yeah, this ROM totally preys on the not so clever reps that work at stores like Sprint and Best Buy. No offense, of course. I actually returned my last Evo with a stock ROM that was still sporting the Superuser Permissions apk. They didn't catch that.10 times out of 9 they're not going to even know about rooting or what to look for to spot a rooted device.
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1st of all EVERYONE I worked with at Sprint and half of the upper management have rooted Evos, even rooted Epics. We know, we're not idiots you idiot
The reps aren't really going to care because the account that device was active on can get charged up to full retail for the new device if the Evo is discovered to be rooted. Most of the time these phones get recycled as refurbished replacement phones, and there's a simple check (a couple actually) to determine root, with or without Superuser. Got an e-mail about this from our service technicians about going into the About Phone section and how the phone betrays itself.
That and the bootloader screen shows S-Off at the top for most rooted Evo's which takes all of 60 seconds to check.
On a side note, it really is unlikely Sprint is wasting man-power checking every single evo coming in, especially with everyone trading up to the 3D. Just throwing it out there, YOU REALLY SHOULD JUST UNROOT the damn thing it's easy and could (possibly) spare you north of $450. I mean really, even if it takes an hour you theoretically made almost $500 an hour.

skatrwannabe3 said:
1st of all EVERYONE I worked with at Sprint and half of the upper management have rooted Evos, even rooted Epics. We know, we're not idiots you idiot
The reps aren't really going to care because the account that device was active on can get charged up to full retail for the new device if the Evo is discovered to be rooted. Most of the time these phones get recycled as refurbished replacement phones, and there's a simple check (a couple actually) to determine root, with or without Superuser. Got an e-mail about this from our service technicians about going into the About Phone section and how the phone betrays itself.
That and the bootloader screen shows S-Off at the top for most rooted Evo's which takes all of 60 seconds to check.
On a side note, it really is unlikely Sprint is wasting man-power checking every single evo coming in, especially with everyone trading up to the 3D. Just throwing it out there, YOU REALLY SHOULD JUST UNROOT the damn thing it's easy and could (possibly) spare you north of $450. I mean really, even if it takes an hour you theoretically made almost $500 an hour.
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I'm pretty sure this method is intended primarily for those taking their phones in for service.
When actually sending the phone back to Sprint (to take advantage of their insurance, for example), a full unroot should always be done. That's where the technicians will be more likely to poke and prod.

neckface said:
Returning your Evo anytime soon? Why unroot when you can just flash a completely plain Jane looking stock Froyo ROM that's lacking the Superuser apk? The geniuses over at Sprint or Best Buy will never be able to tell the difference.​This is netarchy's HTC OTA Froyo 2.2, *FINAL*, build 3.36.651.6 (Rooted) Odexed ROM, the -only- thing that has been changed is the removal of the Superuser Permissions apk.​
Wipe data, cache, and dalvik cache, then flash.
http://www.4shared.com/file/0XGojjon/StockROM.html
If you use this, feel free to gloat in this thread about how you just returned a rooted Evo to Sprint or Best Buy. ​
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awesome idea... I likey

skatrwannabe3 said:
1st of all EVERYONE I worked with at Sprint and half of the upper management have rooted Evos, even rooted Epics. We know, we're not idiots you idiot
The reps aren't really going to care because the account that device was active on can get charged up to full retail for the new device if the Evo is discovered to be rooted. Most of the time these phones get recycled as refurbished replacement phones, and there's a simple check (a couple actually) to determine root, with or without Superuser. Got an e-mail about this from our service technicians about going into the About Phone section and how the phone betrays itself.
That and the bootloader screen shows S-Off at the top for most rooted Evo's which takes all of 60 seconds to check.
On a side note, it really is unlikely Sprint is wasting man-power checking every single evo coming in, especially with everyone trading up to the 3D. Just throwing it out there, YOU REALLY SHOULD JUST UNROOT the damn thing it's easy and could (possibly) spare you north of $450. I mean really, even if it takes an hour you theoretically made almost $500 an hour.
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....................so

Netarchy uses a custom kernal...not hard to figure out.
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Why didn't I think of this?

Is rooting worth it?

Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.

bruce671 said:
Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.
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Titanium Backup is a good reason to root your device. The root method I used, was an exploit available on xda, so afaik if you restored factory defaults no one would know you've rooted the device, so you shouldn't have to worry about warranty. You don't need to unlock the bootloader or do any of those kinds of warranty voiding mods.
You've made a great choice for your first android device. I think this phone is impeccable, one of the first things I loved about it over every other droid I've owned, is that its THE most superior phone I have ever used, call quality, reception, etc, are all second to none. This phone makes calls were others cannot. I have been waiting years for a smartphone that I can truly rely on and the Razr HD (finally) is THAT phone... Motorola are the unsung heroes as far as I'm concerned! It embarrases my old S3 and Lumia 920.
Also, I got JellyBean OTA 2 days ago from Telstra. Hopefully you don't have to wait but to answer your question, I got root when using ICS, then used Voodoo Rootkeeper to keep root after upgrading to JB. I highly recommend reading the associated tutorial.

Try disabling those apps you don't want to see. Go to settings - > apps then scroll to all and select the app you want to disable. There will be a disable button if the carrier didn't lock it out.
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Rooting is worth it.
Before JB comes out you can download custom roms (if they are available) and most of the time those custom roms are faster, got super awesome improvements and are just better.
You can also just download stock roms (same as official)
Apps that worth it:
Titanium backup
SetCPU
Lucky Patcher
And many more
Rooting is absolutely a awesome thing.
But be carefull!
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Rooting is totally worth it. For all the reasons mentioned above and many more that you'll soon read about here in the forums I'm sure.
BUT... Rooting WILL void your warranty.

Yep, but if you use your phone normal and dont trow it and stuff like that you are okay.
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Ha, I agree with you. I rooted mine 2 months after owning it and didn't care about the warranty. The OP asked though, so I answered Sounded like he/she paid extra for a warranty, so wanted him/her to know that it would be wasted money paying for the extra warranty if they rooted.
You never know, some people go buckwild crazy changing and deleting things after rooting when they don't know what they're doing and end up with a very expensive paper weight, thinking that their warranty will save them. Nope. Sorry. Thanks for playing.

bruce671 said:
Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.
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Here's my advice...
Is everything working on the phone as you need? If it is, you probably don't need to root it. I had my last 2 phones rooted and my tablet its also rooted, but there is a lot more management and a lot more stuff can go wrong on a rooted phone.
I'm actually living on a non-rooted phone right now, and have disabled all of the Rogers bloat apps I don't use. The phone is fast as heck and my battery lasts a good while, so there isn't much I feel that I need to tweak.
I have rooted in the past in order to get additional functions (like tethering, better signal) of the phone up and running on my carrier, because I didn't but a phone that was offered by Rogers. Unless you have an exact reason to root, don't bother just.
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One word.... Adfree
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Unless there is something that you need that requires root, no IMHO.
The stock ROM works very well. You can get rid of 90% of the bloat without rooting, through the stock app manager. You can backup and restore all your apps with Astro File Manager, which does not require root. Saves all the APK's to the SD card and if you had to factory reset the phone, just install Astro and restore all your apps. Although, most apps should install automatically from Google anyway.
Until I see a ROM that offers a substantial benefit over stock, I am just leaving it alone... The phone runs great as is, and the peace of mind of not having to worry about messing it up or having a warranty issue is nice.
I do my rooting and ROMs on my Nexus 7.

I would think that anyone that considers themselves a power user, would benefit from rooting.
My two reasons(besides the ones mentioned):
Tasker and Avast. With avast it can hide the installation better and on a lower level.

[APP][2013.11.04] RegionLock Away v1.3 [ROOT]

Sammy, in their never-ending quest to make sure they've pissed off every single one of their customers at least once, have decided to region lock their latest model devices. This means for example that you cannot use a European device with an American, Middle Eastern, Asian, ... , SIM card. You'd still be able to use the European SIM all over the world, but you would not be able to use a local SIM card while travelling outside of Europe - which would of course be much cheaper.
Sammy claims you can use any SIM card in the world after you've 'activated' with a SIM card from the region the device is from (in our example, Europe), but this has been proven by various (angry) Note 3 owners to not actually be the case.
The region lock is implemented in the form of a network blacklist. Beware that this is not exactly the same thing as a SIM lock, even though they are somewhat related. This blacklist blocks a number of whole countries and carriers, while a SIM lock whitelists one specific carrier. This app clears the network blacklist (region lock), but it may or may not remove the SIM lock, if present. Some have reported it works for them (for example: T-Mobile US Note3 on AT&T network: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742), but this should be considered a side-effect.
While removing the region lock does not necessarily affect the SIM lock, various users have reported that inputting a proper SIM unlock code does remove the region lock as well. You can purchase SIM unlock codes at various places on the internet for 20 bucks or so. A benefit of using such a code is that you do not need to root your device or use this app. If you are not rooting your device already for other reasons, I would personally not root it to just region unlock, and buy an unlock code instead.
Compatible devices
- Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 (MI7, MJ1, MJ3 firmwares)
Future
Right now, this has only been tested on Note 3's, and found working. Rumor has it Sammy will be bringing the region lock to a lot of devices, even backporting it to devices sold in the past (aren't there laws against this?). There's no way for me to know at this time if this specific method will keep working on the Note 3, or if it will work at all on other devices. Maybe the app will need updating, maybe Sammy will block this hack altogether, etc. Only time will tell.
In theory this hack can be done without rooting or voiding warranty with some device flashing and app modding, but I'm not currently working on that because it would be highly model-specific and I'm a root user anyway.
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It is not currently known exactly when the network blacklist is updated. Beware that for example updating your firmware may cause the region lock to reactivate.
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Support my efforts (or buy me a beer) and get this app from Google Play (or download it for free from the next post)
Crappy video

Download
This download is identical to the Google Play version, the only difference is you're not buying me a beer
(v1.0: 9070; v1.2: 135)

Changelogs
2013.11.04 - v1.3
- Added option to relock using backed up files
2013.11.03 - v1.2
- Support for multiCSC ROMs - if it didn't work before, try again now!
2013.10.05 - v1.0
- Initial release

thanks brother.
As always you R the BOSS bro. Thanks for all what you are doing and done. :good:

Great work this is going to be very useful for many, Samsung should have never put the lock on the first place. We buy an unlocked device only to find it regional locked, shame on them. Do you think it will be permanent or Samsung could patch it?

Thanks, thanks and thanks for this. You are the boss.

Even though I don't need it, there is really no limit to what you can achieve chainfire. Thanks for your contributions to the community!
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I currently have no need to do away with the region lock but I was feeling treated unfair as a buyer of an unlocked phone. So I'm glad someone came up with this. I followed some threads on these forums and so I had good faith that this will happen. Once I've rooted my phone I'll buy you a beer. Cheers.

Great and thanks
I don't know if I am going to needed but still a nice peace of art with thanks again.

I bought specifically the Note 3 to use it in Europe (with european sim) and south america (with south american sim, otherwise I go bankrupt with roaming charges).
I will test it. No need for root right?
I prefer to use the phone for a couple of weeks (to make sure no need for warranty) and then root it. MAybe by theat time the crap KNOX is solved

big boss of android world
thanks

claudioita said:
I bought specifically the Note 3 to use it in Europe (with european sim) and south america (with south american sim, otherwise I go bankrupt with roaming charges).
I will test it. No need for root right?
I prefer to use the phone for a couple of weeks (to make sure no need for warranty) and then root it. MAybe by theat time the crap KNOX is solved
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You need a rooted device as far as I understood chainfires posts
Best regards
dingolino
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Well that didn't take long. Excellent work Chainfire. :good:

Well done so quick after Sammy blocked foreign SIM cards.
Maybe I need it on my Note 2 when the KitKat will roll out for that device.

Yeppa
THX Chainfire.
And WTF Samsung: Dont do this **** again. This is ridiculous. There is no need for it. You want the same structure like Apple?
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You need a rooted device as far as I understood chainfires posts
Best regards
dingolino
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"In theory this hack can be done without rooting"

Great achivment
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claudioita said:
"In theory this hack can be done without rooting"
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Yes, this is what chainfire was saying, but than he said that most likely he will not dig into it because it would be a lot of device specific work and he is a "root guy" anyway.
So here and now and today my understanding is that his app 1.0 needs a rooted device. And this was your question?
Best regards,
dingolino

dingolino said:
Yes, this is what chainfire was saying, but than he said that most likely he will not dig into it because it would be a lot of device specific work and he is a "root guy" anyway.
So here and now and today my understanding is that his app 1.0 needs a rooted device. And this was your question?
Best regards,
dingolino
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my questions are:
- does this program work on a unrooted device
- what happens if I install and run this program on an unrooted device (beside working or not, may it cause damages and/or void warranty?)

I want to know the same thing but unfortunately I think yes this app needs a rooted device. In the video you can see superuser request launching the app.
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Motorola knows if you're rooted

Bust the screen on my style 2 weeks ago, being the festive season and the postal service running delayed I decided to hold off sending my phone until after Christmas has past.
I called moto repair service for a quote on repair they got back to me 2 days later with some shocking information new to me.
They informed me that my style was rooted and gave me an estimate of how long it had been rooted for (2 weeks in my case)
They wouldn't be able to repair it even though I said I'd pay they won't touch it, irrelevant if I've gone back to complete stock with my original backup and a relocked bootloader as the style has some kind of e-fuse similar to Samsung device, what's surprised me is that the phone has remotely told Moto that the phone has been rooted somehow.
Talk about big brother looking over you're shoulder, I've bought this phone outright from new I should be able to what I want with it in theory :banghead:
Good thing I've got an Honor 7 as a backup phone, looks like I'll be buying a new screen and doing it myself
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How could Motorola know this?
I am just waiting for a safe and easy way to root mine marshmallow xt1572, but as I have more 10 months of warranty, I really wanna know how to avoid them from knowing I will be rooted...
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Moto knows if you've requested an unlock code. And as soon as you've requested the code you are out of warranty for software issues.

What you mean as unlock code? Is some code in moto website?
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Restola said:
Moto knows if you've requested an unlock code. And as soon as you've requested the code you are out of warranty for software issues.
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This, they don't know if you are rooted per se, but they assume so if you unlocked the bootloader. I've also not had any issues with the fact and warrantee claims have been said to not be an issue unless they can link the problem to the software side. So a broken button or what not on the hardware will still be covered.
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What you mean as unlock code? Is some code in moto website?
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Unlock code is part of the procedure to get to rooted status, see the guide in the general forums.

I wouldn't be surprised if something here gives them info from your system.
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This, they don't know if you are rooted per se, but they assume so if you unlocked the bootloader. I've also not had any issues with the fact and warrantee claims have been said to not be an issue unless they can link the problem to the software side. So a broken button or what not on the hardware will still be covered.
Unlock code is part of the procedure to get to rooted status, see the guide in the general forums.
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OK I will take a look on it
As far as a I see there is only a experimental way to root a marshmallow xt1572.
Regards
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During the original root procedure, one of the steps tells you to do this:
fastboot oem get_unlock_data
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and it displays some code. You send that string of code to Motorola and they email you an unlock code. If you use that unlock code, it probably trips something in your phone the way flashing something other than stock on a Samsung phone through Odin trips Knox. That's probably how they know.

Well, this would contradict all the posts of people saying they would fix rooted devices. Makes sense considering that is how the warranty policy is written.

iamsloany said:
Bust the screen on my style 2 weeks ago, being the festive season and the postal service running delayed I decided to hold off sending my phone until after Christmas has past.
I called moto repair service for a quote on repair they got back to me 2 days later with some shocking information new to me.
They informed me that my style was rooted and gave me an estimate of how long it had been rooted for (2 weeks in my case)
They wouldn't be able to repair it even though I said I'd pay they won't touch it, irrelevant if I've gone back to complete stock with my original backup and a relocked bootloader as the style has some kind of e-fuse similar to Samsung device, what's surprised me is that the phone has remotely told Moto that the phone has been rooted somehow.
Talk about big brother looking over you're shoulder, I've bought this phone outright from new I should be able to what I want with it in theory :banghead:
Good thing I've got an Honor 7 as a backup phone, looks like I'll be buying a new screen and doing it myself
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Did you refer the rep you spoke to this this post on the Moto Forums: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/cda80927a1
It has been clearly stated by Motorola that they will still honor warranty on hardware issues even if you have unlocked the bootloader, provided it cannot be traced to something that the software caused. I believe the only thing that they will refuse to even touch is water damage (I think unless you have ADP on Motocare).

This isn't even a warranty claim. Apparently you got a rep that had no idea what he was talking about. If you're paying for the repair, they have no basis to deny you, rooted or not.
Call back and pretend the first conversation never happened. The next rep will give you a price to fix it. If they don't, talk to his manager. Keep going up the chain and don't take no for any answer.
These people's call count are monitored. They're bonuses are affected by how many phone calls they can process an hour. "Nope, you're rooted, can't help you." is a much quicker call than "please hold while I check that price". Be firm and TELL them you want it repaired. Don't ASK if they'll repair it.
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rushless said:
Well, this would contradict all the posts of people saying they would fix rooted devices. Makes sense considering that is how the warranty policy is written.
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I believe that only applies to US customers. I saw a post in Motorola's forums from one of their reps saying they would honor hardware warranty claims on unlocked devices for US customers only. I don't have a link but to it right now, but it's fairly easy to find. It's one of the longer threads on this issue.
The OP doesn't appear to be a US customer...since he has a style not a pure.

shimn said:
I believe that only applies to US customers. I saw a post in Motorola's forums from one of their reps saying they would honor hardware warranty claims on unlocked devices for US customers only. I don't have a link but to it right now, but it's fairly easy to find. It's one of the longer threads on this issue.
The OP doesn't appear to be a US customer...since he has a style not a pure.
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Spot on buddy, I'm in the UK, but I will give them a call tomorrow and play dumb to get a repair quote if at all possible and see if I can carry it up the mangerial ladder.
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This was the response on the Motorola thread I mentioned earlier (https://forums.motorola.com/posts/cda80927a1):
The new (2015) Moto X Pure is not a developer edition, so unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty. Sorry about the lack of clarity on this. We've been using this answer but I was double-checking it before posting.
To sum up and clarify:
Unlocking the bootloader will show your warranty as void.
However, if an unrelated physical material failure should occur, such as a bad volume rocker or a failed speaker, it will be covered if the phone shows no signs of physical abuse. The key is that the problem can't be traced to software or abuse.
These same principles apply to MotoCare Insurance (extended warranty).
The above guidelines are applicable in the US only. Policies differ by region/country.
I'll talk to the marketing team about improving our communications about this aspect of our phones. But as a rule of thumb, if it doesn't say "Developer Edition" then unlocking the bootloader is not supported by warranty.
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I had a 14 X that moto knew was rooted but still honored a warranty claim. With all the permissions now adays its pretty easy for any company to know your rooted.

Wouldn't knowing you're rooted be an invasion of privacy? The unlocked bootloader thing is OK because it's an upfront agreement but moto peeking into YOUR phone to check root with out them.putting their hands on it is very shady.

@rbiter said:
Wouldn't knowing you're rooted be an invasion of privacy? The unlocked bootloader thing is OK because it's an upfront agreement but moto peeking into YOUR phone to check root with out them.putting their hands on it is very shady.
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Wait, what? Is it possible to root without unlocking the bootloader?

dipaolnv said:
Wait, what? Is it possible to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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No, what is more likely is that the OP meant that Motorola knew his phone was UNLOCKED for about 2 weeks, since you need to request the unlock key from them of course they know. Regardless of whether you root after the fact it states pretty clearly that it will void your warranty when you unlock the bootloader (although as stated it seems in the US they will still honor hardware issues).

They've always known. The qe e-fuse was added back in the Bionic or RAZR days.
On my 2013 Moto X (XT1060), the initial 4.4 KitKat OTA tripped the e-fuse to "qe 1/1". It wasn't until the 5.1 OTA that it moved to "qe 0/1". First number is status of root, second number is a permanent fuse trip when the device was rooted the first time. Good thing I didn't need warranty service because that would've been a hassle. The 2013s that came with KitKat preloaded (like my brother's) don't have it tripped, so his reads "qe 0/0".
Unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip the e-fuse, I don't think.

iamsloany said:
Bust the screen on my style 2 weeks ago, being the festive season and the postal service running delayed I decided to hold off sending my phone until after Christmas has past.
I called moto repair service for a quote on repair they got back to me 2 days later with some shocking information new to me.
They informed me that my style was rooted and gave me an estimate of how long it had been rooted for (2 weeks in my case)
They wouldn't be able to repair it even though I said I'd pay they won't touch it, irrelevant if I've gone back to complete stock with my original backup and a relocked bootloader as the style has some kind of e-fuse similar to Samsung device, what's surprised me is that the phone has remotely told Moto that the phone has been rooted somehow.
Talk about big brother looking over you're shoulder, I've bought this phone outright from new I should be able to what I want with it in theory :banghead:
Good thing I've got an Honor 7 as a backup phone, looks like I'll be buying a new screen and doing it myself
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I can tell you first hand, I had an unlocked bootloader and rooted Moto X pure and had some problems with sound. I called customer service and they swapped out the phone no problem, no questions asked.

VZ Device Maintenance

I have both the AT&T S8+ (work device) and VZ S8+ (personal). I noticed that the actual "Device optimization" feature that's present in AT&T is not present in VZ model. Has anyone tried copying the apk for this app from AT&T model to a VZ model? I absolutely love that feature on AT&T and am puzzled why it's not there in VZ, but I digress from the main question with this statement.
Thanks

Verizon removes it to get users to buy into their support and protect app. It is controlled through the cscfeature.xml and on Verizon can only get it with root. With csc can also get the Macfee antivirus virus working.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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Switch to the unlocked firmware. Been using it since it was first discovered to switch from VZ to UL.

Thanks to the both of you. For others with this similar question, here is the thread concerning switching firmware:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/switch-to-carrier-firmware-100-t3609487

eddyo1993 said:
Switch to the unlocked firmware. Been using it since it was first discovered to switch from VZ to UL.
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I don't see it on the unlocked firmware after flashing it. Does the optimization really make a difference?

anewday said:
I don't see it on the unlocked firmware after flashing it. Does the optimization really make a difference?
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When you start your phone do you still get the Verizon boot up screen? Make sure you used the right files. I'm not sure it has always been smooth with no problems. At least with the unlocked firmware you get all the features Samsung intended (I.E. Samsung Cloud, caller ID, etc.)

eddyo1993 said:
When you start your phone do you still get the Verizon boot up screen? Make sure you used the right files. I'm not sure it has always been smooth with no problems. At least with the unlocked firmware you get all the features Samsung intended (I.E. Samsung Cloud, caller ID, etc.)
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Yes, because I applied the wifi calling via a workaround.
I see the device maintenance now, had to switch to simplified view in settings. However, the screen looks different from yours and is missing the device security option.

anewday said:
Yes, because I applied the wifi calling via a workaround.
I see the device maintenance now, had to switch to simplified view in settings. However, the screen looks different from yours and is missing the device security option.
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Forgot to attach the screenshot.

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Forgot to attach the screenshot.
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You could only have one or the other unless there's a different way. If Wi-Fi calling is very important as well as visual voicemail, video calling then stay with the firmware you have now. If you want all the removed features as well as no bloat of course the unlocked firmware.

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I don't see it on the unlocked firmware after flashing it. Does the optimization really make a difference?
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Personally, I just liked that it was a built in, "Samsung Official" optimizer. For now I'm looking into 3rd party apps until my warranty expires since I want to maintain my warranty for now. Rooting will certainly void that warranty and I'm unsure if flashing firmware will too; better safe than sorry for the time being.

P05TMAN said:
Personally, I just liked that it was a built in, "Samsung Official" optimizer. For now I'm looking into 3rd party apps until my warranty expires since I want to maintain my warranty for now. Rooting will certainly void that warranty and I'm unsure if flashing firmware will too; better safe than sorry for the time being.
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The current rooting method as far as I know does not void the warranty. Switching firmware will not void anything as well since it is the official Samsung firmware. If it did void it I wouldn't have switched to the unlocked firmware.

eddyo1993 said:
The current rooting method as far as I know does not void the warranty. Switching firmware will not void anything as well since it is the official Samsung firmware. If it did void it I wouldn't have switched to the unlocked firmware.
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Fair enough. :good:

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Fair enough. :good:
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Yeah, I was able to root.. and while I was rooted, I got the custom unlocked logo on the main boot screen.. but once I flashed back to stock, there is nothing triggered to indicate it was ever rooted. Knox is still 0x0 and the custom logo is gone.