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Is rooting worth it?

Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.

bruce671 said:
Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.
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Titanium Backup is a good reason to root your device. The root method I used, was an exploit available on xda, so afaik if you restored factory defaults no one would know you've rooted the device, so you shouldn't have to worry about warranty. You don't need to unlock the bootloader or do any of those kinds of warranty voiding mods.
You've made a great choice for your first android device. I think this phone is impeccable, one of the first things I loved about it over every other droid I've owned, is that its THE most superior phone I have ever used, call quality, reception, etc, are all second to none. This phone makes calls were others cannot. I have been waiting years for a smartphone that I can truly rely on and the Razr HD (finally) is THAT phone... Motorola are the unsung heroes as far as I'm concerned! It embarrases my old S3 and Lumia 920.
Also, I got JellyBean OTA 2 days ago from Telstra. Hopefully you don't have to wait but to answer your question, I got root when using ICS, then used Voodoo Rootkeeper to keep root after upgrading to JB. I highly recommend reading the associated tutorial.

Try disabling those apps you don't want to see. Go to settings - > apps then scroll to all and select the app you want to disable. There will be a disable button if the carrier didn't lock it out.
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Rooting is worth it.
Before JB comes out you can download custom roms (if they are available) and most of the time those custom roms are faster, got super awesome improvements and are just better.
You can also just download stock roms (same as official)
Apps that worth it:
Titanium backup
SetCPU
Lucky Patcher
And many more
Rooting is absolutely a awesome thing.
But be carefull!
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Rooting is totally worth it. For all the reasons mentioned above and many more that you'll soon read about here in the forums I'm sure.
BUT... Rooting WILL void your warranty.

Yep, but if you use your phone normal and dont trow it and stuff like that you are okay.
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Ha, I agree with you. I rooted mine 2 months after owning it and didn't care about the warranty. The OP asked though, so I answered Sounded like he/she paid extra for a warranty, so wanted him/her to know that it would be wasted money paying for the extra warranty if they rooted.
You never know, some people go buckwild crazy changing and deleting things after rooting when they don't know what they're doing and end up with a very expensive paper weight, thinking that their warranty will save them. Nope. Sorry. Thanks for playing.

bruce671 said:
Hi everyone, i got the razr hd from fido a few days ago. It's also my first android device. It came stocked with a bunch of bloatware that i would like to remove, and apparently the only ways it can be done is by rooting the device. I also got the warranty from future shop, and i don't want to void it. Does rooting the device void the warranty and if it does, can it be reset like the ipad when jailbroken? Also what are the risks of rooting the device, and what are the benefits? And if i do root my device can i still update it with jellybean whenever it is released in the next year? Thanks for replying with any help.
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Here's my advice...
Is everything working on the phone as you need? If it is, you probably don't need to root it. I had my last 2 phones rooted and my tablet its also rooted, but there is a lot more management and a lot more stuff can go wrong on a rooted phone.
I'm actually living on a non-rooted phone right now, and have disabled all of the Rogers bloat apps I don't use. The phone is fast as heck and my battery lasts a good while, so there isn't much I feel that I need to tweak.
I have rooted in the past in order to get additional functions (like tethering, better signal) of the phone up and running on my carrier, because I didn't but a phone that was offered by Rogers. Unless you have an exact reason to root, don't bother just.
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Unless there is something that you need that requires root, no IMHO.
The stock ROM works very well. You can get rid of 90% of the bloat without rooting, through the stock app manager. You can backup and restore all your apps with Astro File Manager, which does not require root. Saves all the APK's to the SD card and if you had to factory reset the phone, just install Astro and restore all your apps. Although, most apps should install automatically from Google anyway.
Until I see a ROM that offers a substantial benefit over stock, I am just leaving it alone... The phone runs great as is, and the peace of mind of not having to worry about messing it up or having a warranty issue is nice.
I do my rooting and ROMs on my Nexus 7.

I would think that anyone that considers themselves a power user, would benefit from rooting.
My two reasons(besides the ones mentioned):
Tasker and Avast. With avast it can hide the installation better and on a lower level.

[APP][2013.11.04] RegionLock Away v1.3 [ROOT]

Sammy, in their never-ending quest to make sure they've pissed off every single one of their customers at least once, have decided to region lock their latest model devices. This means for example that you cannot use a European device with an American, Middle Eastern, Asian, ... , SIM card. You'd still be able to use the European SIM all over the world, but you would not be able to use a local SIM card while travelling outside of Europe - which would of course be much cheaper.
Sammy claims you can use any SIM card in the world after you've 'activated' with a SIM card from the region the device is from (in our example, Europe), but this has been proven by various (angry) Note 3 owners to not actually be the case.
The region lock is implemented in the form of a network blacklist. Beware that this is not exactly the same thing as a SIM lock, even though they are somewhat related. This blacklist blocks a number of whole countries and carriers, while a SIM lock whitelists one specific carrier. This app clears the network blacklist (region lock), but it may or may not remove the SIM lock, if present. Some have reported it works for them (for example: T-Mobile US Note3 on AT&T network: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471742), but this should be considered a side-effect.
While removing the region lock does not necessarily affect the SIM lock, various users have reported that inputting a proper SIM unlock code does remove the region lock as well. You can purchase SIM unlock codes at various places on the internet for 20 bucks or so. A benefit of using such a code is that you do not need to root your device or use this app. If you are not rooting your device already for other reasons, I would personally not root it to just region unlock, and buy an unlock code instead.
Compatible devices
- Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 (MI7, MJ1, MJ3 firmwares)
Future
Right now, this has only been tested on Note 3's, and found working. Rumor has it Sammy will be bringing the region lock to a lot of devices, even backporting it to devices sold in the past (aren't there laws against this?). There's no way for me to know at this time if this specific method will keep working on the Note 3, or if it will work at all on other devices. Maybe the app will need updating, maybe Sammy will block this hack altogether, etc. Only time will tell.
In theory this hack can be done without rooting or voiding warranty with some device flashing and app modding, but I'm not currently working on that because it would be highly model-specific and I'm a root user anyway.
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It is not currently known exactly when the network blacklist is updated. Beware that for example updating your firmware may cause the region lock to reactivate.
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Changelogs
2013.11.04 - v1.3
- Added option to relock using backed up files
2013.11.03 - v1.2
- Support for multiCSC ROMs - if it didn't work before, try again now!
2013.10.05 - v1.0
- Initial release

thanks brother.
As always you R the BOSS bro. Thanks for all what you are doing and done. :good:

Great work this is going to be very useful for many, Samsung should have never put the lock on the first place. We buy an unlocked device only to find it regional locked, shame on them. Do you think it will be permanent or Samsung could patch it?

Thanks, thanks and thanks for this. You are the boss.

Even though I don't need it, there is really no limit to what you can achieve chainfire. Thanks for your contributions to the community!
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I currently have no need to do away with the region lock but I was feeling treated unfair as a buyer of an unlocked phone. So I'm glad someone came up with this. I followed some threads on these forums and so I had good faith that this will happen. Once I've rooted my phone I'll buy you a beer. Cheers.

Great and thanks
I don't know if I am going to needed but still a nice peace of art with thanks again.

I bought specifically the Note 3 to use it in Europe (with european sim) and south america (with south american sim, otherwise I go bankrupt with roaming charges).
I will test it. No need for root right?
I prefer to use the phone for a couple of weeks (to make sure no need for warranty) and then root it. MAybe by theat time the crap KNOX is solved

big boss of android world
thanks

claudioita said:
I bought specifically the Note 3 to use it in Europe (with european sim) and south america (with south american sim, otherwise I go bankrupt with roaming charges).
I will test it. No need for root right?
I prefer to use the phone for a couple of weeks (to make sure no need for warranty) and then root it. MAybe by theat time the crap KNOX is solved
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You need a rooted device as far as I understood chainfires posts
Best regards
dingolino
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Well that didn't take long. Excellent work Chainfire. :good:

Well done so quick after Sammy blocked foreign SIM cards.
Maybe I need it on my Note 2 when the KitKat will roll out for that device.

Yeppa
THX Chainfire.
And WTF Samsung: Dont do this **** again. This is ridiculous. There is no need for it. You want the same structure like Apple?
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dingolino said:
You need a rooted device as far as I understood chainfires posts
Best regards
dingolino
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"In theory this hack can be done without rooting"

Great achivment
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claudioita said:
"In theory this hack can be done without rooting"
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Yes, this is what chainfire was saying, but than he said that most likely he will not dig into it because it would be a lot of device specific work and he is a "root guy" anyway.
So here and now and today my understanding is that his app 1.0 needs a rooted device. And this was your question?
Best regards,
dingolino

dingolino said:
Yes, this is what chainfire was saying, but than he said that most likely he will not dig into it because it would be a lot of device specific work and he is a "root guy" anyway.
So here and now and today my understanding is that his app 1.0 needs a rooted device. And this was your question?
Best regards,
dingolino
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my questions are:
- does this program work on a unrooted device
- what happens if I install and run this program on an unrooted device (beside working or not, may it cause damages and/or void warranty?)

I want to know the same thing but unfortunately I think yes this app needs a rooted device. In the video you can see superuser request launching the app.
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Question about OTA and Purchasing

Can anyone tell me if I buy this phone new from Verizon or Best Buy, will the phone automatically have the most current firmware update or will it come with one of the rootable G920VVRU1AOC3 or G920VVRU1AOE2? I am currently living in another country and cannot be there to check myself and the person who is getting the phone for me does not anything about firmware or how to check it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Spenser

Cannot guarantee anything but I bought mine from Verizon less than a week ago and it came with the most current software - if I'd remembered correctly I wouldn't have bought it but my memory was wrong.
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SponsOne said:
Can anyone tell me if I buy this phone new from Verizon or Best Buy, will the phone automatically have the most current firmware update or will it come with one of the rootable G920VVRU1AOC3 or G920VVRU1AOE2? I am currently living in another country and cannot be there to check myself and the person who is getting the phone for me does not anything about firmware or how to check it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Spenser
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Just tell them how to check. Tell them to ask the clerk to look in the settings, about phone. Baseband
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SponsOne said:
Can anyone tell me if I buy this phone new from Verizon or Best Buy, will the phone automatically have the most current firmware update or will it come with one of the rootable G920VVRU1AOC3 or G920VVRU1AOE2? I am currently living in another country and cannot be there to check myself and the person who is getting the phone for me does not anything about firmware or how to check it. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Spenser
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It really depends how old the stock is, if the phones have been sitting since they were sent to Verizon a while ago, they'll have the older version. As such a more remote / lower sales numbers Verizon store would have a higher chance of having an OC3 or OE2. Phones made more recently will have the newest OTA on them out of the box as of the date Verizon received them. Verizon does not go through and update the version once they have them in hand however. (As far as I can tell)
Having just gone through this myself, if you have someone in a Verizon store for you, Verizon devices have the baseband listed by version number on the side of the box along with various other information (See Below) Ask the person getting the phone for you to ask the Verizon rep if they can look through the stock and find a box with OC3 or OE2 for you. The Verizon folks may very well have no idea what you're talking about / how you know what's written on the side of the box without looking, but they were generally willing to humor me.
All that being said, there were very few OE2s left in stock at Verizon when I looked about a month ago. (sample size 3 stores) I ended up ordering a 128 gb from Verizon (they ship those from the warehouse and don't have any on hand) I got lucky with an OE2. Possibly due to the device stock being older on average due to lower sales. Depending on how good a friend your stateside person is, I might call various Verizon stores and ask them if they have any of the OE2 in stock, and if you get lucky, ask them to set it aside for you.
Obviously that's all for Verizon, I have no experience with BestBuy regarding this phone.
Hope you find that helpful.
- JasonVaritekMVP

Thank you all for your helpful responses. Hopefully there they will be able to find me the correct one

SponsOne said:
Thank you all for your helpful responses. Hopefully there they will be able to find me the correct one
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I just purchased mine from Best Buy today. I specifically went to Best Buy because the local Verizon store does a lot of business and I was sure their stock would be newer. The firmware version is on the box. There are several bar codes on the box. Check the line that starts with "SW-VER". The last 3 digits is your firmware. Mine is SW-VER: G920VVRU1AOE2.

Phone came rooted, but no super su

Hey all, I am looking for some advice. I just bought this phone a couple days ago it's refurbished, when I boot my phone up, it gives me the "custom unlocked" indicator that tells me the phone is rooted, but I have no super su or any of the other tools needed to utilize root. It seems like they rooted it and upgraded it to nougat before giving it to me. While I enjoy nougat, there are many apps that won't work because it is rooted, and without supersu and root capabilitities, I cant hide the root from them, or do lots of other things I would like to do.
What is the procedure for flashing super su onto a phone that is already "unlocked"?
Experienced with rooting phones but having it halfway through the process like this has made me really nervous to try anything without some instructions.
Thanks in advance for any help you provide!

danielnogo said:
Hey all, I am looking for some advice. I just bought this phone a couple days ago it's refurbished, when I boot my phone up, it gives me the "custom unlocked" indicator that tells me the phone is rooted, but I have no super su or any of the other tools needed to utilize root. It seems like they rooted it and upgraded it to nougat before giving it to me. While I enjoy nougat, there are many apps that won't work because it is rooted, and without supersu and root capabilitities, I cant hide the root from them, or do lots of other things I would like to do.
What is the procedure for flashing super su onto a phone that is already "unlocked"?
Experienced with rooting phones but having it halfway through the process like this has made me really nervous to try anything without some instructions.
Thanks in advance for any help you provide!
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Are you sure you have Verizon Note 5 (e.g. N920V)? As far as anyone knows the Verizon model is unrootable and with a locked bootloader, so if you have a rooted Verizon Note 5 (which I highly doubt), some people might be interested in taking a look at it.

bladez said:
Are you sure you have Verizon Note 5 (e.g. N920V)? As far as anyone knows the Verizon model is unrootable and with a locked bootloader, so if you have a rooted Verizon Note 5 (which I highly doubt), some people might be interested in taking a look at it.
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I am 100% positive, it has the verizon logo on the back and it is the note 5. Keep in mind I dont have any root capabilities, but apps such as mario run, netflix,, and samsung fitness, either don't want to download through the normal channels, or won't run once i download them from places like aptoide. It sucks because i've paid for many of these apps and i cant use them because its saying im rooted. For instance samsung fitness gives me a message saying due to a new security policy they dont allow the app to run on rooted phones.
Honestly though I would love to downgrade to marshmallow, many apps have serious glitches with this nougat update on my phone. It's incredibly slick looking but apps like gta san andreas have major graphical glitches, and audio in apps like fl studio mobile can be really glitchy and testy at times.
I can upload some photos of my phone and the screens im talking about if youd like.

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After six months of anticipation this happens...

Ok, would you be able to take a picture of your bootloader screen?

xxMoon said:
Ok, would you be able to take a picture of your bootloader screen?
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Will do when i get out of work

I know this thread is old but I'm new, to all of this so I'm sorry if I'm out of place.
Ok, so this guy has root on a retail Verizon note 5. Why isn't anyone else got root and sharing? I myself am wondering if the sprint note 5 will work on LTE Verizon. I would just buy a note 5 Verizon edition, this rooted Verizon note 5 has me scratching my head. So what's up with root has someone discovered root and to selfish to share it with others or what?

I'm curious as to what came of this.
Also wondering if maybe the internals got swapped?
Can I get pick of Verizon boot screen?

T-MOBILE, received 8.0 update this morning

Was pleasantly surprised to see an update this morning and that it was for 8.0. been waiting a while for this.
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The Oreo update for the H918 (T-Mobile) came out a few weeks ago.

Yeah, forgive me, I've been keeping my eyes out for updates on the T-MOBILE update and I knew it was coming but hadn't seen anything. I haven't really been watching the forums where I would have seen the posts about it.
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i bought my V20 (H910) when I was still with at&t. Will I get the update, or will I have to somehow do it manually? Does my phone care about the difference? Does TMobile?

solson1041 said:
i bought my V20 (H910) when I was still with at&t. Will I get the update, or will I have to somehow do it manually? Does my phone care about the difference? Does TMobile?
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AT&T only sends updates over the air, and only if you are a current customer on their network (yea, super d**ks).
If you want to update your phone, you will have to root it. You don't have to STAY rooted, you can flash a stock Oreo zip.
Of course, this wipes your phone as well...
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
AT&T only sends updates over the air, and only if you are a current customer on their network (yea, super d**ks).
If you want to update your phone, you will have to root it. You don't have to STAY rooted, you can flash a stock Oreo zip.
Of course, this wipes your phone as well...
-- Brian
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That's a great, detailed answer, thanks.
I'm interested in doing that, a few apps, specifically Spotify has been working poorly since Oreo rolled out for the v20, and I'm not sure if it's related.
I'm not 100% up to speed with this higher level android tomfoolery, I've flashed a new kernel to a Nexus7 for a car install, but that's it. Could I ask an extra favor, for you to link me to a good how-to on getting my h910 running Oreo? Some of the other writeups seem to be different variations. I must use the att software, regardless of my current carrier, right?

Rooting is no longer a point and click affair.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
-- Brian

runningnak3d said:
Rooting is no longer a point and click affair.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
-- Brian
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Thanks, I had read that post, and before talking to you, I wasn't 100% sure that it applied to my phone being on T Mobile now.
After giving it a closer read, that sounds like the kind of thing I'd try if I didn't depend on my phone as heavily as I do, or if I had a spare handy. just a tad too much ambiguity and the stakes are too high for my current life situation today.
Thanks again though, you thoroughly and clearly answered my question.