I'm not sure if this has been posted but I just discovered a way to use one finger to navigate with the trackpad on the dock. All you have to do is double tap twice on the trackpad, keeping your finger down on the second tap, and you are able to use just one finger.
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Wow nice ! thanks, made the scrolling much easier. (at least for me)
Nice find!
jerrykur said:
Nice find!
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Lol, just found out by myself and wanted to make a thread on this. Guess I'm a little late
But it's really a nice addition in 3.2 and it prevents from accidentally pinch zooming also. Why the hell don't the manufacturers give changelogs with major updates?! Took me really ages now to find this nice feature...
P.S.: This also works for scrolling left and right on the homescreen.
still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
thefunkygibbon said:
still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
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I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
thefunkygibbon said:
i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
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Ok, I see your point, it also scrolls into the opposite direction as a scroll wheel would. That really could confuse a lot of people.
Yeah two finger scrolling really sucks now. Thats why I want some trackpad settings. It helps a little if you pull your fingers really close to each other. It's not perfect, but it prevents the screen from zooming all the time.
And yes, the pointer should return to normal with a usb mouse. I don't think the circle style is a totally bad idea, though. but it is much too big. If they'd reduce the size to at least half of the current size, it could be a good pointer for use with trackpad.
qwer23 said:
I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
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Wow, so they really DO listen to their customers
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Something along these lines may have already been created, but I havent been able to find it. Shell software, and touch flo is all very good for using our phones without a stylus, but we all know that at some point we are going to have to use a piece of wm software, and out the stylus comes.
What I am proposing is a virtual mouse cursor. I came across Innovisoft Virtuamouse, which is controled by the d-pad, but why not have a cursor about 50*50 pixels, which can be moved by finger.
In my paint mockup picture, the red circle would be where you touch to drag the cursor, and the tip is the active point where the stylus would tap. It would be moved by dragging, and a stylus tap would be signified by removing and replacing the finger within 200ms, like a laptop touchpad.
This cursor would probably be turned on and off by a hardware button.
Unfortunately I am not a developer, so this would have to be a project for someone else, but I'm sure people would be willing to contribute.
Since the Diamond having multi-touch seems to be comfirmed (link below), I would bet that one of the first things we see from deevelopers is just this idea. Using the touch-sensitive part of the area around the action button as a trackpad and clicking with a button press.
Diamond multi-touch vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY&feature=related
Seems like a good idea, but I do have to question this a bit. You want to use a touch controlled mouse to tap a button? It seems like a bit more work to do. Also, your picture is a smartphone....
The idea is to use the mouse to press the odd, fiddely button, not for constant use.
As for that being a smartphone screen, that was an overlook on my part - I just grabbed the first screen capture off google images.
I think it would be useful for web browsing.
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Just wondering, I have a Desire now with an S on the way. Being very bad at typing on my mobile I often use the trackball to go back mid sentence and make corrections. My winmo phones had extra arrow keys on the keyboard to accomplish the same thing. Is there a way to do this on the Desire S or will I have to back space through all the text to make corrections?
Thanks
you need to use the screen to backspace back like that. like the iphone were it zooms in on text as u hold and touch.
OK so the zooming makes it easier to select the location? Never used an iphone but maybe I'll go check out my buddy's just to see. My S will be here in 2 days so I will be able to see first hand, I was just wondering what to expect.
Thanks for the reply.
edit- I just checked out my friend's iphone. He wasn't even aware of this feature. Seems to work pretty well. Thanks so much, I probably wouldn't have found this on my own.
It's not quite as slick as the same feature is on the iphone and unfortunately its slightly buggy at times, but still very useful.
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Or just install Smart Keyboard Pro...where you can enable directional arrows (up, down, left, right) very handy.
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Or just install Smart Keyboard Pro...where you can enable directional arrows (up, down, left, right) very handy.
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Good to know, thanks.
I personally prefer the swype application as a sense keyboard replacement, find it much easier and faster for input, it doesn't have directional arrows but you don't really need them as you can use
your thumb for cursor placement
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you can also just press in the location mid sentence and the cursor will go there. might take a few tries to get spot on, but definitely the way to go instead of backspacing the entire sentence and starting over lol. just press the spot you want to go to.
or use the fancy zoom in thing the guys already said.
I have some issues of the touchpad mistaking my palm as my finger and screwing up when I'm tryping to type. There's also a problem with how sensitive and fast the cursor moves. I hope ASUS adds a sensitivity setting in future updates.
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In a video review on youtube they said there was a hotkey to disable to trackpad for when you are typing. I don't have my tablet yet and haven't even found a keyboard dock, so I can't verify.
As far as sensitivity, I don't think there is much to be done about it for now. We will indeed have to hope ASUS adds a setting for it.
I have the same issue when I am typing where my palm seems to hit the trackpad and it brings the cursor somewhere else, messing up what I am typing. I guess that is sort of a good thing though because it is training me to be more ergonomically correct and keep my rests elevated while typing lol. There is a hot key to disable the track pad, but it is sort of a pain to have to do it every time you want to type.
I hope they include some settings for the next update to adjust sensitivity and to change what two finger actions do, because sometimes I notice myself trying to do a two finder scroll, and instead, it does a two finger click on a link.
I'm ready to throw my dock into the wall. The trackpad on it has become terrible since I've updated the firmware. As I'm navigating in the browser, it's clicking whatever it likes and I somehow end up at the homescreen.
Anyone else having issues?
I thought I was having the same issue with my trackpad, but it is very sensitive. If you'll notice two things....while you're typing you might accidentally be hitting the trackpad with your palm, but the most common issue that I faced with my mouse clicking things when trying to move and scroll like you was that the trackpad was responding to my two fingers touching the trackpad as a click, which causes you to inadvertently click things when you don't want to. I always disable the two finger or long press click on laptops, so I am hoping that they will make that an option in future firmware updates also.
All of my errors were happening in the browser, while using the trackpad to navigate, click, and two finger scroll.
I did more testing and I found out that the dock works fine when plugged into a power source. It starts going crazy when it's running on battery.
I'm going to RMA it to Newegg.
I was wondering if there's a mod available that would let you adjust the tracking speed of the optical trackpad. I like to use it from time to time, mostly for moving the cursor around in a text field (I really hate using my finger for that). Right now, it moves really slow. Any way to make it faster? TIA!
Not that I know of, the optical joystick isn't like a trackball, it uses the light around your finger to move the cursor, rather than using physical contact (as far as I know).
Bummer. Okay, thank you for the reply.