I'm ready to throw my dock into the wall. The trackpad on it has become terrible since I've updated the firmware. As I'm navigating in the browser, it's clicking whatever it likes and I somehow end up at the homescreen.
Anyone else having issues?
I thought I was having the same issue with my trackpad, but it is very sensitive. If you'll notice two things....while you're typing you might accidentally be hitting the trackpad with your palm, but the most common issue that I faced with my mouse clicking things when trying to move and scroll like you was that the trackpad was responding to my two fingers touching the trackpad as a click, which causes you to inadvertently click things when you don't want to. I always disable the two finger or long press click on laptops, so I am hoping that they will make that an option in future firmware updates also.
All of my errors were happening in the browser, while using the trackpad to navigate, click, and two finger scroll.
I did more testing and I found out that the dock works fine when plugged into a power source. It starts going crazy when it's running on battery.
I'm going to RMA it to Newegg.
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New Fuze user and new user to WM in general. I like the device, but it's been a bit overwhelming trying to get things together and tweaking it.
My biggest gripe right now is the sensitivity of the 4 way directional pad. Up and down work pretty well, but left and right are tricky to hit and I usually wind up going home, canceling, or going back. It's quite frustrating and I'd much rather use the directional pad than peck on the touchscreen in many situations.
I'm a bit befuddled: is navigation via the directional pad touch sensitive or is it a physical button? Is there anyway to adjust the sensitivities or sensor zones/regions so as not to accidentally hit one of other hardware buttons?
Thanks.
Got the same issue. The up / down navigation works fine, but left and right is just horrible. It would almost be better if you could use the touch sensitive part, rather than having to press the buttons fully down.
yup its a problem on all i think
lbhocky19 said:
yup its a problem on all i think
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Wow, how did this get pass R&D and QA? The lack of responsive and accurate left/right keys is abysmal (makes me unable to use Calendar). I sure hope there will be some remedy ....
Yeah, I agree, the d-pad is sorely lacking. It seems to be getting a little easier as I get accustomed to it, but the d-pad from my 8525 was much better.
I agree 100%. And like vexingv said, this is particularly annoying in the calendar application. The D pad on my 8525 was far easier to use.
And all this time i thought i just kept messing up. I have the same problem also.
calendar is where the problem really does shine
This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.
NuShrike said:
This is the WORST part about this new phone redesign. It's almost as if MARKETING came up with this idea than actual engineers.
I wonder if we can just cut the surface so we get the d-pad left-right back and so it's not shared with other buttons.
Thanks a lot HTC! You now have THREE buttons that do the same thing instead of 2 last time on the Kaiser:
Home goes back to Home
Back (formerly OK), goes back to home anyways
Hangup goes back to Home anyways already!
So hitting left or right you have 66% of it going straight back to HOME.
Then, you take away the scroll-wheel capability and replace it with rocker buttons for volume that only do that and nothing else.
Genius by HTC.
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Well, the scroll wheel does work, but its ability is to zoom/decrease the text size, which for most intents and purposes is a waste.
For clarification, is the directional rocker currently touch-sensitive or is there a physical button that is being depressed (albeit poorly).
If this keeps up, how about mapping some of the other 4 hardware buttons to provide some L/R functionality?
Okay guys. Here is the weird crazy part. I had the same problem, I just flashed the original stock att rom back (Well, tried to freeze in the middle to return ) but I had the att rom on it, I tried to re-install via the microSD card, and after it went through all the customization, I was so suprised that the left and right were working, it blew me away. I was like, "wdf? Is this the same phone." I have no idea what happened, but they seem more responsive. No tricks. At first I thought it was just me, but I started to use it more and more and it was working much better than before. No idea what fixed it, but I'm a happy camper
Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.
Stock rom here... Moving 'left' seems to work okay but 'right' either hits Call End or Back. And here I thought I was doing something wrong.
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Here's some pictures of a guy who dropped it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904011&postcount=1
Looks like distinct buttons. We just need to keep the face plate from sharing the presses.
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Seriously! Whose idea was it to make all those buttons into 1 face plate! stupid idiot designer. At least they could've separated the d-pad somehow, maybe a very precise circle.
Yeah with the new excitement with touch interfaces, HTC seemed to have left their minds/brains elsewhere. But judging from the pictures in the linked thread above, it seems like none of the 4 directions have physical buttons.
Count me in on this problem...
For the Calendar I just open the keyboard and use that D-pad on the bottom right.
SOLUTIONS...
I propose someone should create software to do 1 of 2 things:
1) Use the G-sensor to control scrolling. This function would be activated by touching, not pressing/clicking, the center of D-pad. Similar to how you focus the camera. This action would activate the software thus allowing scrolling in all 4 directions by tilting the device.
2) Change the input so we only have to Touch the D-pad (like how we zoom in on pictures/Opera) to move in the desired direction.
So who's up to the challenge of developing some software to make this happen? I will gladly donate $$$ as the D-pad is the ONLY thing I dislike about the Fuze/Touch Pro.
it took me 10 days to realize how to left and right buttons work (sprint).
Hmm...maybe the designers/engineers meant for BOTH hardware buttons on either side to be depressed nearly simultaneously in order to register navigation to either the left or right?
Eg.: Placing the tip of my right thumb parallel with the end the bottom of the phone between the two hardware buttons (farther away from the D-pad than one normally would) such that both buttons depressed, I was able to get much better accuracy navigating to the right. Can get the same response on the left side, but it's not as feasible due to the awkward positioning of the hands/fingers.
I got tired of this problem before so I used G-controller. It works.
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The buttons are both touch-sensitive and physical buttons. The problem is if your thumb is touching any of the big buttons, it will prefer that over the directional click. Add to that the fact that the area the phone considers to be part of the non-directional buttons is much bigger than what it considers to be the directional buttons and it is a problem.
I wish people would stop following Steve Jobs's design ideas. Fewer buttons does not a better product make.
I have some issues of the touchpad mistaking my palm as my finger and screwing up when I'm tryping to type. There's also a problem with how sensitive and fast the cursor moves. I hope ASUS adds a sensitivity setting in future updates.
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In a video review on youtube they said there was a hotkey to disable to trackpad for when you are typing. I don't have my tablet yet and haven't even found a keyboard dock, so I can't verify.
As far as sensitivity, I don't think there is much to be done about it for now. We will indeed have to hope ASUS adds a setting for it.
I have the same issue when I am typing where my palm seems to hit the trackpad and it brings the cursor somewhere else, messing up what I am typing. I guess that is sort of a good thing though because it is training me to be more ergonomically correct and keep my rests elevated while typing lol. There is a hot key to disable the track pad, but it is sort of a pain to have to do it every time you want to type.
I hope they include some settings for the next update to adjust sensitivity and to change what two finger actions do, because sometimes I notice myself trying to do a two finder scroll, and instead, it does a two finger click on a link.
I'm not sure if this has been posted but I just discovered a way to use one finger to navigate with the trackpad on the dock. All you have to do is double tap twice on the trackpad, keeping your finger down on the second tap, and you are able to use just one finger.
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Wow nice ! thanks, made the scrolling much easier. (at least for me)
Nice find!
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Nice find!
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Lol, just found out by myself and wanted to make a thread on this. Guess I'm a little late
But it's really a nice addition in 3.2 and it prevents from accidentally pinch zooming also. Why the hell don't the manufacturers give changelogs with major updates?! Took me really ages now to find this nice feature...
P.S.: This also works for scrolling left and right on the homescreen.
still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
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still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
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I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
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i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
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Ok, I see your point, it also scrolls into the opposite direction as a scroll wheel would. That really could confuse a lot of people.
Yeah two finger scrolling really sucks now. Thats why I want some trackpad settings. It helps a little if you pull your fingers really close to each other. It's not perfect, but it prevents the screen from zooming all the time.
And yes, the pointer should return to normal with a usb mouse. I don't think the circle style is a totally bad idea, though. but it is much too big. If they'd reduce the size to at least half of the current size, it could be a good pointer for use with trackpad.
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I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
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Wow, so they really DO listen to their customers
I have an annoying problem with my text input suddenly forcing All CAPS for no apparent reason. I am using the dock and this happens when I don't even have the caps lock button enabled. this sometimes happens if I choose to capitalise a letter using the shift> letter command, after doing this it seems that all text is capitalized. Sometimes I am able to switch off the caps by deleting to the previous sentence where things were normal, but sometimes this won't work.
I'm using SWIFTKEY TABLET X if that makes any difference. Incidentally the capitalisation stated when I typed the capital x just before when I was typing SwiftKey. The capitals would not switch off until I navigated back to some lower case text and typed some stuff, but before returning to where I left off.
Super frustrating and can't seem to resolve it. Not sure if this is a SwiftKey issue or something that others using stock honeycomb keyboard are experiencing?
All help appreciated.
I noticed that same thing. It happens after I come out of sleep. I thought it was the cover resting on the shift key, but it even happens with the dock open.
Pressing the shift key once seems to fix it. I've got a B8O dock with a B5O tablet. The only other non-stock thing I have is WiFi off in sleep. How about you?
Think of the keyboard on the dock as an extension of the software keyboard you are using. In this case, what's probably occurring here is that you're hitting shift twice, and therefore putting the software keyboard into Caps Lock. Just hit shift again to return it to normal. Also, it really is a good idea to switch your keyboard to the stock on when you have the tablet docked.
I doubt I was double shifting (anything like double clutching???), but I'll pay more attention to this.
I was using the standard keyboard. I'll try using the Asus keyboard and see if that resolves the issue.
Anyone still having issues with this?
I am still having the problems, although the shift thing does resolve it a lot of the time.
Shame that ASUS decided to do nothing about this..... REALLY grinds my gears that the vast majority of companies just take the cash and run, and leaving behind a product that could be so much more.
Thankfully we have XDA.
Anyone figured out any way to change the launch buttons on the dock? Since I don't ever use the stock browser this button has become useless.
If you have a TF101 and a dock, with Stock ICS, can you please tell me:
when docked:
1. does clicking the mouse wake your tablet from sleep?
2. does moving the touchpad wake your tablet from sleep?
3. does anything else wake up your tablet, besides opening it up, and the power button?
Thanks, I'm trying to figure out if my dock is normal, or if it has a bad I/O, and I'd rather not have to flash the stock rom just to find out, it's a pain if you're just going to use it for 5 minutes.
touching the mouse pad does wake up mine...
Touching the pad does wake up the screen. Clicking the mouse button also wakes up the screen for me too.
Yes, touching the mousepad / moving mouse cursor / pressing left (only left, not right) button under mousepad wakes my TF up. But that's about it, besides this and power button nothing else does that.
all right, thanks everyone, I guess it sounds like my dock is normal then. (somebody on here told me I might have a bad I/O on my dock and might need to RMA it, but I guess mine is fine)