I was wondering if there's a mod available that would let you adjust the tracking speed of the optical trackpad. I like to use it from time to time, mostly for moving the cursor around in a text field (I really hate using my finger for that). Right now, it moves really slow. Any way to make it faster? TIA!
Not that I know of, the optical joystick isn't like a trackball, it uses the light around your finger to move the cursor, rather than using physical contact (as far as I know).
Bummer. Okay, thank you for the reply.
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Something along these lines may have already been created, but I havent been able to find it. Shell software, and touch flo is all very good for using our phones without a stylus, but we all know that at some point we are going to have to use a piece of wm software, and out the stylus comes.
What I am proposing is a virtual mouse cursor. I came across Innovisoft Virtuamouse, which is controled by the d-pad, but why not have a cursor about 50*50 pixels, which can be moved by finger.
In my paint mockup picture, the red circle would be where you touch to drag the cursor, and the tip is the active point where the stylus would tap. It would be moved by dragging, and a stylus tap would be signified by removing and replacing the finger within 200ms, like a laptop touchpad.
This cursor would probably be turned on and off by a hardware button.
Unfortunately I am not a developer, so this would have to be a project for someone else, but I'm sure people would be willing to contribute.
Since the Diamond having multi-touch seems to be comfirmed (link below), I would bet that one of the first things we see from deevelopers is just this idea. Using the touch-sensitive part of the area around the action button as a trackpad and clicking with a button press.
Diamond multi-touch vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY&feature=related
Seems like a good idea, but I do have to question this a bit. You want to use a touch controlled mouse to tap a button? It seems like a bit more work to do. Also, your picture is a smartphone....
The idea is to use the mouse to press the odd, fiddely button, not for constant use.
As for that being a smartphone screen, that was an overlook on my part - I just grabbed the first screen capture off google images.
I think it would be useful for web browsing.
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Hello guys. I've just released my app's source code as well as a short video at:
http://androidcontroller.googlecode.com/
--necessary improvements list--
on the Android side:
* service discovery so that the client and the server can find each other on the local network (it's very annoying having to manualy enter an IP address in a textfield that's why I change the source code every time and compile with the new ip )
* kalman (or some other kind of) filtering to smooth the sensor output
* improve menus/configuration/interface
* look for a marker and calibrate automaticaly
on the windows side:
* switch model you're rotating somehow (ability to load models via xaml files?)
* interact with the object (I'm already transmitting the touch screen's x/y event)
* smooth the sensor data on the windows side to take the load off the android app
* sounds
* transmit images to display on android or sounds?
I would appreciate VERY much ANY help that anybody could provide. If you are interested in contributing code please contact me and I will add you to the project members list.
Well Done !
congrats
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Just kidding, awesome app btw
wow...this is pretty cool. I would love to help but due to my lack of knowledge in this. Keep up the good work!!
Great work, I'd love to see how this develops.
Starred in google code.
Everybody thanks for the encouraging remarks
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Draw custom buttons to the touch screen which send keyboard commands to windows, and implement gamepad support for the sensors? Then this could be used as an input device for a computer.
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Draw custom buttons to the touch screen which send keyboard commands to windows, and implement gamepad support for the sensors? Then this could be used as an input device for a computer.
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But if I do that then the touch screen becomes just another gamepad, and a bad one for that matter since touch screens have no tactile feedback (i.e. the finger is not aware of wether it has pushed the button or not). Tactile feedback could be implemented via vibration or perhaps even audio feedback with sound for button press but both those scenarios are impractical for a gaming situation where buttons are being pressed at a frantic pace.
Besides I wanna do more than just pushing buttons. Something with touching/swiping gestures etc. Transmitting data from the pc to the mobile device, or sounds? ooor.. dunno^^
I need some good ideas on what more one could do with this ^_^
I'd be more than happy to help, unfortunately the most I can do for you is clean up images and menu buttons. If you need any of that done feel free to hit me up.
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This is really cool. Are there any real apps available yet?
henrynhl said:
This is really cool. Are there any real apps available yet?
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Plx define 'real' apps.
Actually this is a great idea, I'm surprised no one had thought of it yet.
Blender (open source 3d suite) supports NDOF devices nowadays - I'll see about giving this a try when I get a chance, and perhaps contribute some code (and we'd need a linux server as well, which shouldn't be too big of a deal)
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But if I do that then the touch screen becomes just another gamepad, and a bad one for that matter since touch screens have no tactile feedback (i.e. the finger is not aware of wether it has pushed the button or not). Tactile feedback could be implemented via vibration or perhaps even audio feedback with sound for button press but both those scenarios are impractical for a gaming situation where buttons are being pressed at a frantic pace.
Besides I wanna do more than just pushing buttons. Something with touching/swiping gestures etc. Transmitting data from the pc to the mobile device, or sounds? ooor.. dunno^^
I need some good ideas on what more one could do with this ^_^
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I have an idea, heh...use it to control the mouse on a PC.
There are remotes that work using accelerometers and such...by tilting the remote up, it moves the mouse arrow on the screen up, left goes left, etc. Then simply have the screen react to a short tap(which would be a single click), double tap (which would be a double click), and a long press (for right click).
That is certainly something that I would use on a daily basis.
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I have an idea, heh...use it to control the mouse on a PC.
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Thanks for your feedback jmhecker! Do you mean like a wiimote? If so then unfortunately that's not possible with the HTC Dream unless the user performs some kind of calibration process first (because the device has no way of knowing where the monitor is). So first some sort of calibration would be necessary, which could be done by placing a marker/qr code on the monitor then pointing the camera OR just pointing the device to the middle of the screen and pressing a button (which is what i"m doing now to calibrate).
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Jubei said:
Thanks for your feedback jmhecker! Do you mean like a wiimote? If so then unfortunately that's not possible with the HTC Dream unless the user performs some kind of calibration process first (because the device has no way of knowing where the monitor is). So first some sort of calibration would be necessary, which could be done by placing a marker/qr code on the monitor then pointing the camera OR just pointing the device to the middle of the screen and pressing a button (which is what i"m doing now to calibrate).
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Kind of like that, yes. But, not exactly.
Basically, the phone knows when it is in 'zero' position. IE: lying flat on its back.
Now, I tilt the phone (rotate) to the left a smidge, so it look like / (when looking at it if it were in front of you...what oyu see is the bottom (where the plug is) of the phone. Now, when you tilt it like that, the mouse cursor moves left. Then when you turn it like \, it moves right...tilt the phone forward, it moves down, and tilt it backwards, and it moves up.
Kind of what you have being done already with the video and the plane in it...but, rather than move the plane, move the mouse cursor.
Does that make sense?
This with remote droid...
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Kind of like that, yes. But, not exactly.
Basically, the phone knows when it is in 'zero' position. IE: lying flat on its back.
Now, I tilt the phone (rotate) to the left a smidge, so it look like / (when looking at it if it were in front of you...what oyu see is the bottom (where the plug is) of the phone. Now, when you tilt it like that, the mouse cursor moves left. Then when you turn it like \, it moves right...tilt the phone forward, it moves down, and tilt it backwards, and it moves up.
Kind of what you have being done already with the video and the plane in it...but, rather than move the plane, move the mouse cursor.
Does that make sense?
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I could see this working with RemoteDroid, or something of that nature. Make the tilt like a joystick, and the screen with a touch pad and buttons. That would make a killer game controller
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Kind of what you have being done already with the video and the plane in it...but, rather than move the plane, move the mouse cursor.
Does that make sense?
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It does yes. But i think it would require a lot of work to be usable because isometric or isotonic (speed of cursor relative to tilt angle) devices are not nearly as usable as mice. So in the end you'd spend so much hours coding just to have another mouse, whereas I think this device can be more.
it has a speaker, a display, vibration, buttons, keyboard, a trackball, sound. It has a lot of potential to be used just as a simple mouse.
I have some issues of the touchpad mistaking my palm as my finger and screwing up when I'm tryping to type. There's also a problem with how sensitive and fast the cursor moves. I hope ASUS adds a sensitivity setting in future updates.
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In a video review on youtube they said there was a hotkey to disable to trackpad for when you are typing. I don't have my tablet yet and haven't even found a keyboard dock, so I can't verify.
As far as sensitivity, I don't think there is much to be done about it for now. We will indeed have to hope ASUS adds a setting for it.
I have the same issue when I am typing where my palm seems to hit the trackpad and it brings the cursor somewhere else, messing up what I am typing. I guess that is sort of a good thing though because it is training me to be more ergonomically correct and keep my rests elevated while typing lol. There is a hot key to disable the track pad, but it is sort of a pain to have to do it every time you want to type.
I hope they include some settings for the next update to adjust sensitivity and to change what two finger actions do, because sometimes I notice myself trying to do a two finder scroll, and instead, it does a two finger click on a link.
I'm not sure if this has been posted but I just discovered a way to use one finger to navigate with the trackpad on the dock. All you have to do is double tap twice on the trackpad, keeping your finger down on the second tap, and you are able to use just one finger.
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Wow nice ! thanks, made the scrolling much easier. (at least for me)
Nice find!
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Nice find!
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Lol, just found out by myself and wanted to make a thread on this. Guess I'm a little late
But it's really a nice addition in 3.2 and it prevents from accidentally pinch zooming also. Why the hell don't the manufacturers give changelogs with major updates?! Took me really ages now to find this nice feature...
P.S.: This also works for scrolling left and right on the homescreen.
still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
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still think that using the trackpad is now a truely horrid experience compared to < 3.2
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I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
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i guess, the way i see it though is that if i want to use the trackpad in that way, i'd just use the screen! I want to use the trackpad in the same way as I'd use a mouse. The main times i wanted to use it is if there was a area on the screen that needed clicking and it was too hard to do with a finger.. i want the accuracy of a mouse pointer.
but I digress from the original post.
I used to like scrolling with two fingers, now thats pretty much impossible since it seems to want to pinch zoom all the time.
ho hum. i guess i'll just buy a mouse instead for these purposes (hopefully the mouse pointer wont be a big stupid circle, i think i read somewhere it all returns to normal with a usb mouse)
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Ok, I see your point, it also scrolls into the opposite direction as a scroll wheel would. That really could confuse a lot of people.
Yeah two finger scrolling really sucks now. Thats why I want some trackpad settings. It helps a little if you pull your fingers really close to each other. It's not perfect, but it prevents the screen from zooming all the time.
And yes, the pointer should return to normal with a usb mouse. I don't think the circle style is a totally bad idea, though. but it is much too big. If they'd reduce the size to at least half of the current size, it could be a good pointer for use with trackpad.
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I guess that depends. With 3.2 they made the trackpad scroll the same direction as the tablet screen does if you swipe with your fingers (swiping down the trackpad will swipe up the screen). If you used a notebook or netbook before you'll be confused, that's right. But if you only used smartphones and other touchscreen devices, this is more intuitive now because it has the same feel. I only used desktop pcs before the transformer and I always confused the trackpad's direction before the 3.2 update. Now I intuitively scroll into the right direction.
But I still agree with you. I think they should make some trackpad options with the next update I mean some settings like scroll direction, sensitivity, pinch zoom sensitivity or at least pinch zoom on/off. And for the trackpad buttons perhaps customizing right key (to open the apps settings for example).
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Wow, so they really DO listen to their customers
Has anyone found a way or believe it is possible to control how sensitive each button on the touch cover is? I presume the software just sees it as a giant flat surface, and then maps presses in specific areas to button presses. So I guess really you would be saying to the software that touches from this specific area of the cover we are going to accept at a lower pressure.
What I want is to be able to increase the sensitivity of the spacebar area. I feel like when typing from my lapt or any other non solid surface that I really have to hit the spacebar for it to register, where as the rest of the buttons feel spot on.
Thoughts?
tiny17 said:
Has anyone found a way or believe it is possible to control how sensitive each button on the touch cover is? I presume the software just sees it as a giant flat surface, and then maps presses in specific areas to button presses. So I guess really you would be saying to the software that touches from this specific area of the cover we are going to accept at a lower pressure.
What I want is to be able to increase the sensitivity of the spacebar area. I feel like when typing from my lapt or any other non solid surface that I really have to hit the spacebar for it to register, where as the rest of the buttons feel spot on.
Thoughts?
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It's funny you mention that, because I have more or less the same issue, but with the Shift keys. I always miss the Shift key and hit either below it or I don't hit it hard enough. I want to prevent that from happening because it can get kind of annoying. Great question.
Your assumption is not actually true, by the way - different parts of the cover have different sensors, or no sensor, under them.
I've found hitting the spacebar with my left thumb way more reliable than with my right. Not sure why, and since this isn't my default style, it currently slows down my typing. Also, if I remember to hit further upward on the bar, it works better. It's sensitive all the way down to the top of the trackpad, but it's either more sensitive closer to the other keys, or something about my hand geometry makes me naturally hit it better when I hit further up.
I always found the sensitivity to be a bit low for my taste and I can't get over this particular sensitivity level still. Since it's software that interprets presses, there could be a registry key for that. Microsoft should make it a setting.
Anyway, I'm also starting to experience a bigger problem - certain keys' sensitivity degrading. Now it takes considerably more force for such often used keys as A and S to register compared to the rarely used ones. While it takes an okay amount of pressure for a "devices" button to register a click, I have to stab the A for it to register. And I think it will get worse.
P.S.: I type quite a lot though wouldn't go for the type cover because touch cover is more aesthetically pleasing and good enough as a keyboard if worked correctly, up to it's potential.
Also, I think most people would appreciate autocorrect on the touch cover.