[Q] Nexus S or Infuse 4G for AT&T? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm leaving for college the 17th, and want to get my upgrade before I leave. Originally, I was gunning for the Atrix, but the Pentile Display, Motoblur, and poor software/hardware integration were deal breakers. So, I've narrowed it down to the Samsung Infuse 4G, and the Samsung Nexus S, and might exchange them within the 30 day period if the Samsung Galaxy S II comes out.
I'm just going to list the pros and cons for each, as I see them, and if any of you can provide feedback (especially those on AT&T) that would be great.
Nexus S
+Pure Google/Stock Android
+Will get Ice Cream Sandwich
+SAMOLED
+Community backing
+4" Screen
-1GHZ Cortex A8
-No Guerrilla Glass (don't know if that's a deal breaker)
-Supposed radio problems on AT&T
Infuse 4G
++SAMOLED+
+Battery Life
+Infused ROM provides stock Gingerbread
+1.2GHZ Cortex A8
+Thin/light (helps offset screen size)
+ Guerrilla Glass
>4G, then again this is AT&T
-4.5" Screen
-Might not get Ice Cream Sandwich
I'll use the phone for web browsing, email, messaging, calling, a video or 2 on the go maybe, occasional doc editing/tweaking, apps for weather, news, etc. Not big on the 3D gaming really.
Thanks!

IMO if you list the 4.5" screen as a negative, forget that phone. You'll hate using it and wind up regretting your decision. the NS is a great phone and believe me the processor is not a negative. It overclocks to 1.2, even 1.4 on a good phone with no issues. I have my 4G running 1.2 daily and the phone just FLYS

NYYFan325 said:
IMO if you list the 4.5" screen as a negative, forget that phone. You'll hate using it and wind up regretting your decision. the NS is a great phone and believe me the processor is not a negative. It overclocks to 1.2, even 1.4 on a good phone with no issues. I have my 4G running 1.2 daily and the phone just FLYS
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Yeah, I just listed it as a negative relative to the Infuse, then again, I didn't for SAMOLED vs SAMOLED+...
I've actually never used a 4.5" phone, I just remember thinking it'd be too big for me when I used my friend's and the one on display at the AT&T store (wasn't on though....)

Can anyone speak for the radio on at&t or SAMOLED vs SAMOLED+?

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Galaxy S2

Hey everyone.
I ran across this over at the GS2 forum.
This guy has one.
Check out his blog
http://domarmstrong.blogspot.com/
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Some pretty impressive numbers there, and a very complete selection of benchmarks.
Would seem like the CPU in the GS2 is at least 2x more powerful than the Hummingbird in ours. Also some impressive GPU numbers.
Thing is though... the original Galaxy S was like 6-8 months ahead of the curve in pretty much every facet of the device. Even now, no other device on the market can compare with the Super AMOLED screen. The Galaxy S2 however has some impressive specs, and a very cool looking (and very thin) package, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be the "step above the rest" that the original was.
Guess we'll see when it's actually released!
Not that it matters, but that's got to be some of the highest quadrants ever recorded.
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
SkitchBeatz said:
I wish it was a 4" screen. Wouldn't want a 4.3" one with that resolution (personally). Because I'm on a two year contract I'm hoping the Galaxy S3 is leaps and bounds above the S in display and processor technology... and comes in a 4" variant for battery savings.
It still looks cool though
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I'm really on the fence about it due to the screen size (for battery life, size of the handset) and the resolution. I may be able to live with the lack of resolution, but I'd have to see battery life numbers before I even think about swapping out my captivate.
Just got mine today very impressive and fast. Very responsive and thin.
Camera is brilliant and video recording wow best out there.
I was really looking forward to the galaxy s 2 but I am thinking its gonna be awhile before it is released. I find it hard to believe with the infuse on the way (but to the best of my knowledge also with out a release date) that samsung would cut their own throat by following the infuse with the galaxy s 2. I have been eligible for an update for awhile so I am thinking there is going to be allot of competition when it finally arrives. IMO samsung has really dropped the ball by not releasing here sooner, especially if it has to face the iphone 5. At this point it seems like the sgs 2 will be doa as the next killer phone if released in the fall.
that score in antutu is quite impressive! holy crap that's fast tegra 2's need to run at 1500 mhz to beat that!. the 3d benchmarks are likely heavily held back by a cap on the fps just like the captivate is already. i have gotten 491 points for 3d alone in antutu with a certain kernel and rom combo and that wasnt even with the gpu overclocked or fps cap removed like some of the vibrant kernels and old captivate 2.1 kernels. could do.
i want to see that thing run without any fps caps and some kernel tweaks! no overclocking.
I might upgrade next year. I think it's a good to give 6 months to a year before getting a top of the line handset.
That's enough for bugs to be noticed (and hopefully fixed), for community development to take off and for the apps to catch up with the new phone's technology. Correct me if I'm wrong, but right now the only apps that can take full advantage of the Sgs2 processors are benchmarks.
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For those interested, Engadget UK just posted a review of the Galaxy S 2:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
SO gps works...
BRB preordering
Glad they put the USB at the bottom
yeah but is it using the same type of internal memory? that is the biggest bottleneck of any device or computer is the *hard drive*
the internal memory in current phones is single channel read OR write crap.
and please dont say ddr2 memory.... thats different and only helps a little in comparison to the issue with the storage memory
I think I'll just wait for what samsung promise to have a 2ghz dualcore nxtyr or later, I'm still in my 2yr contact though
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i like the coment at the end "best smart phone period!" says it all!
that said i am a little disapointed with the 3d performance of the dual core phones. though the tegra is a powerful application processor and the orion is fast beyond description the open gl performance isnt much beyond what the galaxys already does. was samsung just that far ahead in that area or is there power to be unlocked in these chipsets?
bri315317 said:
That looks very promising. I could upgrade my cappy to that for sure. To date i have not seen anything worth upgrading to...
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Why on earth would u want to upgrade to Galasy S2?
They have so much potential and best tech in screens, internal storage, cameras, processors, and good design builds in past YET lately they rush everything (unfinished drivers, bad gps, same 16GB internal but they could have 64 and average camera and cheap plastic to save on costs) so that they can copy iphone because they want some of their success. i personally hate iphone, but every other company copying them just drives apple to think they r the best.. and personally they did make the right choice on A5 to use powerVR543 because even dual VR 543 is faster than quad-core mali400, (big mistake for Samsung as mali400 alone is almost twice weaker than PowerVR 540 used in previous galaxy, which confirms in benchmarks) and NO 3D in galaxy S2 which puts LG optimus 3d and HTC evo 3D in front. and 3D is the future with more and more 3d movies out. and same wvga res that has been since winmo 6.0. sure u don't need the very highest res in a phone, but when u connect it to HDTV via hdmi u will have to rethink that, but then again does galaxy s2 even have HDMI?? On this site: http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys2/html/specification.htmldoesn't doesn't list hdmi or anything...
Here where things become worse building a phone with large surface area due to 4.27inch screen and full plastic yet copy iphone in trying to make as slim as possible makes it extremely breakable as the phone will slowly start bending over months as u keep it in ur pocket tightly while playing sports etc. This used to happen with motorola razer
And to top this off Android 2.3 DOES NOT fully support multiple cores, well it supports but doesn't take advantage till 3.0 honeycomb (or 3.1 for phones), so if samsung doesn't give u an update AGAIN, or rushes it out full of bugs like they did for galaxy s, ur phone will never see it's potential
And i also got a bit of info from a tweeter a few month back where it was said that samsung is working on quad-core processor for next year and chances are the next one will also be 3D. This goes well in line with guad-core Tegra 3 to be out this fall, and sony NGP already running quad-core.
Point is unlike galaxy S which had at least the best GPU on the market, Galaxy S2 doesn't have anything that stands out. Sure u have super amoled plus, but others will have higher res, and dual-core is MAINSTREAM now. And it will only be a matter of month before this phone be obliterated by it's succesor.
Also from the lawsuit that apple has recently put on samsung might force them to restart making innovative designs like they did prior "galaxy"
You're wrong in several different ways.
1- There's very little point in putting 64gb of storage on a phone. 16/32 internal + 16/32 sd card is way more than enough for me and for 99.9% of users;
2- Reviews of the sgs2 camera place it as one of the best in the market, not sure I'd call it average;
3- Apple's lawsuit is bs and I honestly doubt it will affect anything on the long run. Android and touch wiz are quite different from Ios in important ways;
4- Why do you need 3d on a phone? Where are the apps for it? Why would you watch a 3d movie on a 4.3 inch screen? It'd probably kill the battery before it was over. Maybe, it'll eventually offer some real world advantage, but right now it's just a gimmick;
5- The Sgs2 supports hdmi out via micro usb through mhl technology. Google it;
6- It's wrong to question the build quality and durability without having ever seen the phone upclose. So far, I've seen nothing but praise on reviews and previews. Plastic not only keeps costs down, it also lowers the weight. And since when is making a phone slim apple's idea?;
7- I don't have the expertise to comment on the cpu and gpu, but the benchmarks seemed impressive as hell to me;
8- Screen resolution could be higher, but super amoled technology is so far ahead of the curve that I bet it will more than make up for it.
In short, why upgrade to sgs 2? Best cpu on the market (according to engadget review), best screen on the market, one of the best cameras on the market, bt 3.0+hs, microusb hdmi out, usb on the go (according to gsm arena) and the fact that the galaxy s is already a great phone.
Obviously, there'll be a better phone, eventually, that's the way it is in the tech world, but right now it seems to be a fantastic device, as engadget review shows.
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I dont care the phone is sick and I can't wait to get one. I love my sammy captivate and knowing that's the same thing all jacked up is great. 3d is dumb especially on a phone. Plenty of storage. It will be great to finally have a flash. Super amoled is amazing so super plus is better...what more could you want. We don't need to dwell on tons of worthless info. The phone is gonna be sick and the best anybodies had. Everybody wants it and so do I.
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[Q] T-mobile G2x vs ATT Captivate(galaxy s)

i am confused between the 2
i need to get 1 of these for my loved 1
if i go with captivate i get Super AMPLED Plus screen
if i go with G2x i get Tegra 2 awsomeness
please help me through this problem,as both these are at comparable prices where i live,please dont suggest me about gettin galaxy s2 as that is way out of my range for the time being
looking forward to you people comments
Thanks
Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
PowerVR SGX540 GPU (Corrected by Antigen)
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
Tegra 2 Hardware Accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
mmapcpro said:
Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
No 3D hardware graphics accelerator
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
3D hardware graphics accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
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Visually stunning graphics as in video games?
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Yes, high def games seem to run smoother and appear brighter than on other phones I've seen. Your experience may differ, as this is my opinion.
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Yes, high def games seem to run smoother and appear brighter than on other phones I've seen. Your experience may differ, as this is my opinion.
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Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T- thanks I almost buy for 720$.....u just saved me !
player911 said:
Also the galaxy s captivate only has a super amoled... not a plus. Big difference.
Also big diferences with a single core vs dual core.
Also galaxy s has no reliable GPS.
The galaxy s has a blue hue also which looks horrible despite the deep blacks.
G2x has its fair share of problems too but they are just software related. I would recommend either waiting for the g2x to be officially updated and re-released or just grab the latest CM7 build....
Or wait for the Galaxy S2 to hit AT&T
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Who told you that Galaxy S has a reliable GPS? Lol
It even lacks good drivers for GPS chip!
mmapcpro said:
Captivate:
1GHz single core hummingbird (year old tech)
5MP rear camera (no front facing)
720p video capture
No 3D hardware graphics accelerator
16GB internal memory card
G2X
1GHz dual core tegra 2 (simply nothing comparable right now)
8MP rear camera
1.3MP front camera
1088p video capture
3D hardware graphics accelerator
HDMI mirroring (awesome feature)
8GB internal memory card (I have a 32GB external in mine, so I'm sitting with over 5GB of empty space on my internal memory card...so the extra 8GB of the captivate has no meaning for me, personally)
I have NO experience using the Captivate, so I can't help you with a comparison. But I can tell you that the G2X is the fastest phone with the most visually stunning graphics I've ever seen.
If you read this board, you'll read about some people that have had no problems with their g2x (I'm one of those), and others that have been plagued with problems. I dunno...for me, there's no question. I would buy this phone again if I had it to do over.
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Well, dude, if I were you - I'd have read some stuff about the phone before suggesting your opinions to smb.
Captivate has no GPU? LoL
Correct: All Galaxy S series (t-mo, at&t, verizon) phones have a GPU. PowerVR SGX540. Actually it's on par with G2x's Tegra 2 Geforce ULV.
You're right, I'm an idiot. The Galaxy S does have the PowerVR SGX540 gpu.
I apologize for any harm done.
I still don't believe the Captivate's gaming abilities are on par with the G2X when you consider both performance and efficiency. However, it is a top-notch gpu, and I'll retract that argument in my post.
And as far as offering my opinion before reading up on the Captivate? First, yes, I admittedly posted 1 line of incorrect information. All of the other information in my post is 100% accurate. Second, if you took time to read for yourself, you will notice that I specifically stated that I had no experience using the Captivate, so I couldn't provide a comparison between the 2 phones. I only posted spec differences as they were listed on the phone service provider's website. Why did I hurt your feelings?
I work for ATT and personal think the captivate is garbage.
We nicknamed it the Craptivate.
CPU is slow comapred to Tegra 2. Hell the hummingbird seemed slow compaired to the Snapdragon 1GHZ
Captivates camera sucks and has no flash
Touchwiz (samsungs skin) sucks
captivates GPS SUCKS
Captivate is 3G G2X is 4G
Super AMOLED has nice blacks but horrible whites.
If your looking at an ATT phone look at the Infuse 4G.
I currently have the G2x and the Infuse 4G. I like the G2x much better.
The Infuse 4G is pretty cool. And i hear the Galaxys S2 is pretty awesome.
But for the most part i dont think Samsung has put out a good phone since their Flipphones back in the late 90's early 00's
@OP
I have the G2x (or rather the Optimus 2x, same phone p-999 only it isnt T-mo branded)
A friend of mine has the Captivate and its no contest. Go with the G2x.
G2x has a better build (if you can find one without light bleed issues) and a much better feel in the hand compared to the Captivate.
Tegra 2 is a beast. I come from the Nexus One and then the Nexus S and i can assure you that the G2x blows those two pure google phones out of the water simply due to the Tegra.
Also, I have a Sensation 4G I'm playing around with to see if i should sell the G2x and right now im heavily in favour of the G2x simply because it is rooted and i've got custom kernels and ROMs on it. In fact I am only waiting this week for HTC to come clean with the bootloader before i sell it (temp-root isnt cutting it for me).
The G2x has a better screen and the Tegra is way better at processing multimedia than the Snapdragon (Google Maps app loads and processes map data 3 to 5 seconds faster on the 1GHZ Tegra than on the 1.2 GHZ Snapdragon).
Get a G2x, youre not going to regret it.
I would definitely go with the G2x. I've owned a Vibrant (which is very identical to the Captivate) and it has GPS issues which the Captivate is known for having also and the software has a great amount of lag unless you root it and install VOODOO LAG FIX. The Vibrant was a great phone once rooted minus the GPS. Just to be fair I can almost bet you money that if you post this in the Captivate forum (if you haven't already done so) that even Captivate owners would say the G2x is the better phone out of the two. We have the hardware to support just about any software android throws at us in the future. This phone is almost future proof.
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[Q] Help me pick out my new phone

I am currently with Sprint using an HTC Evo 4G. I like it but I do not like the service of sprint nor the slow speeds. I am going to move to ATT with my younger brother and looking at sme phones, but I am at a loss at what to pick. I have narrowed it down to 4 phones.
Samsung Infuse- I like this phone because of the Super Amoled screen the size ofteh screen and the lightweight feel of it.
HTC Inspire- I love HTC's sense UI. Even after using MC7 on my evo I went back to a sense style ROM.
Motorola Atrix- Dock aside I have a friend who has this phone and he loves how fast it is with its dual cores.
LG Thrill- THe only other dual core phone on my list but it is 3D and I am not sold on the idea of 3D just yet. Plus every LG phoen I have had has been bad.
I really only am looking at 2 phones the infuse and the inspire. As I said I realyl like HTC's Sense, and not a big fan of TouchWIz. If it was able to do so I would root the infuse and flash a sense style rom on it but I can not find a sense rom for the infuse. I am really stumped so came here to see if I could get some assistance in picking out my new phone.
If you liked the evo (I love sense) the inspire is pretty much the same phone with the exception of the inspire having more memory.
But personally i wouldnt mind ditching sense for power and going with the atrix. dual core with 16gb of internal memory/ 1gb ram.
ULP GeForce GPU <--- that would be my deciding factor
1930 mAh battery compared to the 1230 mAh for the inspire.
And its motorola.
Hope that helps

[Q] Help me pick a new phone (Htc Amaze vs Samsung s2)

I know there was a similar thread to this topic, but the thread was 9 days old and to me that's a big difference imo. So anyway, I'm stuck choosing either the samsung s2 or the htc amaze (both phones are the tmobile branded fyi) and i really like the build quality of the amaze and i heard the camera is better the s2 but i like the processor on the s2 even though the amaze has the same thing but the speed is almost similar and both of these phone way faster than my current phone (iphone 3g lol) and the screen of the s2 looks great but the amaze screen has more pixels. So right now i some advice on which phone is better, and please have some reason with your post, i dont want just a simple answer
samgung GSII is one of the best phones ever made. compare the specs list, look at some user reviews. i don't know the exact specs, so i can't say for why without a possible very large margin of error, but i do know the GSII is a better device.
These questions are always tricky, as much as you would hate to hear it, it comes down to personal preference..
Looking spec wise the processor of the Amaze is slightly faster (1.5ghz dual core vs 1.2ghz dual core) - The memory of the S2 can be exanded whereas I don't think the Amaze can be - Camera/Video quality is the same - Both have NFC support (Which is the next era of technology in my opinion) and the Amaze is being shipped with Gingerbread 2.3.4 I believe..
Sooo If you are looking spec wise and want the latest and greatest I would have to suggest the Amaze, I would prefer the S2 myself because all though it isn't quite as fast 1) I wouldn't notice the .3 ghz difference and 2) I prefer the squarer shape of the S2 as well as it being quite a lot lighter (Amaze=170grams vs S2 = 110grams).. But again that is my personal preference.. Heck I'm saving up to get a Nokia N9 over the S2, that's saying a few things about me.
Hope this has been of use,
MVP
im leaning towards the s2 and i was talking about the tmobile branded s2 not the international but thanks anyway
Why do you want the Nokia N9? Looked at the specs, doesnt look way better than the SGSII, am i missing the point?
Here are my thoughts:
-The Galaxy S II has a faster processor, running at 1.2ghz (Dual-Core). Overclockable (and stable) at 1.6ghz using a custom kernel here.
-The Galaxy S II has an AMAZING camera. VERY high quality and life-like. It's great!
-The Galaxy S II has the SAMOLD+ screen, which looks absolutely amazing. Simply put, extremely nice. When displaying the same picture on the Galaxy S II and the iPhone 4, the Galaxy S II just BLOWS the IP4(S) out of the water - not to mention it helps improve battery life.
-You should be safe if you drop the Galaxy S II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
I looked at the specs of both galaxy S II and iphone 4s. Seems to me that iphone is much better. I have a captivate myself and plan to upgrade soon as well. If you have time, wait for something better to come along soon near thanksgiving or xmas break.

Leaving the Mytouch 4g Slide Moving to Samsung Galaxy S2 :D

Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.
bmw2105 said:
Bye all Mytouch friendsssss this phone is was good while it lasted, on to bigger and better things.
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Bigger is not always better
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Bigger is not always better
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In this case i would have to say so only if it had the hardware keyboard :l lol but ill get over it
Why would someone leave a dual core device with a keyboard, for another dual core device with no keyboard? Beats me
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I still have both devices and because this s2 only cost me 250 off craigslist
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I'm curious... Has T-Mobile started giving S2s as a replacement for our phone yet?
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HD7 (Sold)
Mytouch 4g (Sold)
gtmaster303 said:
Bigger is not always better
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Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.
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Actually that is exactly true. The SGS2 has numerious advantages over the DS. First is the S3 snapdragon processor or samsung exynos processor. Both processors are at 1.5ghz. Also both processors have better GPU. Next is RAM amount. The SGS2 has 1024MB of RAM. The DS only has 768mb. Next is screen quality. The SGS2 has a brilliant 4.5in Super AMOLED Plus screen. Colors are deeper and richer. The DS has a 3.7in Basic LCD screen. Colors look washed out. Next is battery life. The SGS2 has a 1,800 MAH Battery. While the DS has the 1,450 MAH. Average talk time is 7.5hrs on the SGS2 while the DS is around 4 hrs of talk time. Next is dev support. The SGS2 has huge dev support. The DS barely has 0.01% support that the SGS2 has. Next is the SGS2 has much better support from the manufacturer. The SGS2 has had 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.6, 4.0.2, and 4.0.3 all official os updates or leaked direct from samsung. The DS has seen 2.3.4 and 3 patches direct from htc. The DS is the red head step child for htc. The one and ONLY advantage the DS has over the SGS2 is the keyboard. Every other aspect it falls really short. And yes they are both "Dual core" but thats where the simulatiles end. There is also huge differences in quad scores (+2000 difference). Oh and the SGS2 has a 2.3MP front facing camera while the DS is a basic VGA. And the SGS2 also has a much better camera (They are both 8Mp) but samsungs is so much crisper and better color quality. Not to mention true zero shutter lag. So at the end of the day the OP Made a wise choice.
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I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.
Yes. But the DoubleShot is a beaaaaast!
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Yes. But the DoubleShot is a beaaaaast!
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Lmfao. Not compared to the SGS2. Its a snail compared to it. The SGS2 is the beast. Bone stock 6500+ antutu scores vs 3000+ the DShot has. The max score ive seen a DS get is 7200 on Antutu thats maxed out OC to 1.782ghz. The SGS2 gets 6000-6500 at 1.2ghz and 8500-9500 OCed to 1.6ghz.
dung8604 said:
I'm inclined to agree. Especially with the dev support, if you can move from a doubleshot to the gs2 without spending too much, its a no brainer. That's also assuming, of course, that you won't miss the keyboard, which is a purely personal choice.
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Exactly. I agree. Couldnt of said it any better.
Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.
marc12868 said:
Don't the SGS2 and the DS have the same exact chipset? Just the DSes is manufactured underclocked. Also benchmarks aren't everything. I'm pretty sure the DS can run anything the SGS2 can with ease.
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It's an apples to oranges comparison.
The OP was letting us know he was leaving, and almost led to selling his device to me, but ended up getting it to another - that creates purpose for his posting.
The rest of this thread seems to have turned into someone trying to make themselves feel better by trying to put someone else down - don't feed the troll.
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The Doubleshot uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon S2 Processor. The AT&T and Tmobile versions have the Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 Processor and Sprints version uses Samsungs Exynos Processor. The S3 processor can process tasks much faster then the S2 processor thus higher benchmark scores. Not to mention better GPU. The exynos has even better processing power and even better GPU then both S2 and S3 processors. Qualcomm just released the Snapdragon S4 processor found in the american varient of the HTC One X. It has slightly better processing and GPU then the Exynos Processor but not much. Samsungs Hummingbird and Exynos processors have always been better then there competitors. Trust me the DS is not slow by any means but the S3. S4. And Exynos processors are just better.
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The Doubleshot uses an S3 processor. I'm inclined to agree that the GS2 is generally a better phone for most people. I like the Doubleshot better because the keyboard is extremely useful to me and it fits better in my pockets. Also, being able to go directly to the camera through the button has been a lifesaver at times.
I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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I don't understand. These people like the keyboard, and its the worst keyboard on any phone that I have used... The keyboard is so bad it was easier most times to use the onscreen keyboard.
Unfortunately tmobiles best phone for now is the s2. Its sad because there are some better phones out but tmobile is always behind the times.
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It's true that it isn't the best keyboard... My java based Rumor Touch had a better physical keyboard when I had it, but the DS is probably one of the most powerful android phones that have a physical keyboard and after using it for a couple months I can type on the keyboard fairly fast and it does seem to give better tactile feedback then when I first got it, it's like it just needed to get broken in. But to each there own. I was used to using an onscreen keyboard since my last 2 phones were just candybar style androids, but it's nice to have a physical keyboard.
The right feel...
IMO, it is all about how the phone feels/performs in your hand and how it meets your demands. The SG S2,for me, feels too fragile/plasticy whereas the DS feels sexy, soft and yet dorable and can go the distance. Phones are like girl friends, you don't have to have the most popular girl, just the one that feels right for you.

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