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Gingerbread Speed Issues / Results

I have been back on GingerREMIX for about the last week and have noticed an issue with speeds over 3G / 4G / WIFI. I listen to Tune-In just about 24/7 and with BAMF 1.6.3 (Froyo), it never buffered. It seems with the Gingerbread leak that we have, it buffers over 3G, 4G and WIFI every 20 minutes or so.
So I have put together a little test sample of data speeds over 3G and 4G (I am working on WIFI results as well). The tests were performed on two different days at roughly the same time as well as in the same location to try to capture a fair sample. I will also note that absolutely no apps except for the speed test app were installed over the base ROM when testing.
I uploaded all of my results to google docs to make it easy for everyone to see.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...QjR5ODNNWkluaXJOenc&hl=en_US&authkey=CNHdsMQE
Just something to think about before making the leap to alpha GB.
Disclaimer: In no way does this reflect on the quality of the BAMF ROM(s) as I have experienced the same type of issues on other GB based ROMs. It more or less comes down to the alpha build of GB that we have.

Interesting. Thanks for the "side-by-side" comparison.

Please don't tell me you used speedtest.net mobile app to get these results.
If you did, you should read the other 100 topics about Speedtest app not working on GB, you will in fact get normal speeds with GB just need to use a different speed test.

I really think that the leaked radio has more issues than just the possible bricking. When on CM7 GB, I get normal download speeds in the 12-20 mbps range, same with any froyo rom, however, when on any of the roms that need the leaked GB radio to work, I get horrible speeds. Netbook tethered to phone, Pandora/slacker streaming, YouTube streaming both normal and HQ videos. There is a definite and significant drop in download speeds.
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chrisjm00 said:
I really think that the leaked radio has more issues than just the possible bricking. When on CM7 GB, I get normal download speeds in the 12-20 mbps range, same with any froyo rom, however, when on any of the roms that need the leaked GB rom to work, I get horrible speeds. Netbook tethered to phone, Pandora/slacker streaming, YouTube streaming both normal and HQ videos. There is a definite and significant drop in download speeds.
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Interesting, just when I used the leaked GB radio on Das BAMF everything ran fine with plenty of speed. Speedtest (Not the app) showed normal speeds and I never had a problem with downloading/streaming anything even the MR1 PG05IMG.zip to send me back to froyo downloaded in a minute or two (400mb file).
Also, Pandora didn't work on GB so I don't know where you got that from.

The 1.5.6 version of Pandora ran well, I couldn't get 1.5.7 to work though.
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What's so good about the GB leaks?

So what's the big deal about these GB leaks? I understand it means GB is coming to our beloved phone but I don't get why the leak itself is so highly praised, I haven't personally used it yet(just too much work for a non apparent gain) but it just seems like a glitchy unstable firmware to run.
I'd just like to know why everyone seems to like this leak so much.

From what I've seen, they give you a bit of a performance/signal boost. Everything feels smoother overall. That's it,I think. Netflix used to be a big reason for GB, but now it's on Froyo devices as well.

Ya I've heard of the performance boost but Voodoo is a better boost IMO(I'm not going on Quadrants, it's just with Voodoo I haven't noticed any hints of lag and I run 3 widgets + underclock). I do think the radio is a huge necessity seeing as I drop 4g connection all the time but I've heard of the GB leaks not allowing you to receive calls/SMS. Lame.

blarrick said:
Ya I've heard of the performance boost but Voodoo is a better boost IMO(I'm not going on Quadrants, it's just with Voodoo I haven't noticed any hints of lag and I run 3 widgets + underclock). I do think the radio is a huge necessity seeing as I drop 4g connection all the time but I've heard of the GB leaks not allowing you to receive calls/SMS. Lame.
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Well, since we don't have GB source code for our Charges, we haven't been able to get voodoo out as quick as with source code available. From what I've heard, though, a voodoo kernel for GB is in the works. GB + voodoo = heaven.
I'm using Navenedrob's EXT4 formatter/Nameless kernel and my phone is very smooth. Unfortunately, using that kernel, I can't take advantage of any form of voodoo.
Anyway, I'm currently running the latest GB leak and I get SMS/calls just fine.

Just curious if there are any deciding factors, I'll probably stick with Froyo until the official GB is released(probably 1-3 months). Hell, I got the phone at Costco so I might just swap it if the Galaxy S2 comes out before GB.

The big deal about the Gingerbread leaks is just that -- they're Gingerbread, which is the latest and greatest version of Android.
That said, Gingerbread is and was intended as a fairly minor update, with improvements almost exclusively focused around the UI and game performance.
It's certainly nice, but it's not like getting a new phone. It's just that a lot of people are prone to excessive hyperbole... which may be why reading these forums you might get the impression Gingerbread is the best thing since sliced, uh, bread.

As I've said before around here, the conventional wisdom (i.e. that GB was a minor OS update) has never held true for me. When I first went from Froyo to GB on the Evo, it was like a revelation in terms of speed, performance, battery life, etc. Can't say it's exactly the same sensation for the Charge yet since we are working off leaks, but I still find even the leaked GB much smoother than Froyo.

Its not just about GB. Kejars gummy version is MORE stable than the stock Froyo.

Google are the ones that say GB is a minor update, and the code for 2.3 is only 2.8something% different than 2.2. The amazing performance increases you claim just aren't substantiated by the code.
Going from 2.1 to 2.2, on the other hand, was supposed to provide a huge performance boost.

What's "so good" about the leaks is that it gives the devs, themers, etc. an early opportunity to work with GB for the Charge, so that when the official release comes out, they will already be in a good position to get their work out quickly. That's how I see it at least.

Nothing...they suck.
Aside from having the devs getting a jump start on some ROMS, the GB leaks are awful.
Stock froyo all the way baby...YEEEAAAA!!!!
oops i pooped my pants
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Saying they suck is also hyperbole. They don't suck; they're just leaks, and leaks usually are not quite finished products.

The significance about the leaks is that they get us angry because they show that we won't be getting TouchWiz 4.

[Odin] EE4 radio for Gingerbread ROM's

This is for the people who think the new EP1F and EP1H radio does't work well
The EE4 radio's will work on any GingerBread ROM
EE4 Radio
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I want...
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And......there goes my incentive to go back to froyo. Thanks so much kejar!!

Cool. Downloading now....

kejar31 said:
This is for the people who think the new EP1F and EP1H radio does't work well
The EE4 radio's will work on any GingerBread ROM
EE4 Radio
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Kejar u r a genius...

Hmm... The call quality is good. However When doing the speed tests, I noticed the upload speed much greater than the Download speeds......

EE4 radio on EP1H
praveen1789 said:
Hmm... The call quality is good. However When doing the speed tests, I noticed the upload speed much greater than the Download speeds......
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Unfortunately the speed test app doesn't work properly on GB roms so those results are most likely inaccurate. Try going to www.speakeasy.net and clicking on the speed test from the phone's browser.
After several runs through opera on speakeasy.net I'm consistently getting 15-17 down but still only ~1 up. Though it's much later at night so internet congestion is less than it was when I was testing earlier today, the EE4 radios do indeed appear to be somewhat faster. I haven't made any phone calls since I just flashed this a few minutes ago, the only thing I've tested is 4G data speed.
Interestingly, I seem to be getting better speeds by several mbps through opera than the stock GC 1.8 browser. Can someone else confirm this isn't just my connection flaking?

Does anyone else want this because of a crackling hiss and pop during phone calls on EP1X?

Yeah, I will give that a try.....
One other thing I noticed is, My phone is getting a bit heated. Current temperature is at 41 'C. I will keep monitoring the temperature tonight and see if its a temporary issue as I've been doing lot of speedtests now....

I was getting 7mbps down with the ep1f radios, but now getting 13 down wither ee4. Tested with speakeasy.
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cmdrfrog said:
Does anyone else want this because of a crackling hiss and pop during phone calls on EP1X?
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Yup. This is the reason why I want it, and so far it's working like a charm. Thanks Kejar.

Does the file need to be renamed before flashing?

apascual89 said:
Does the file need to be renamed before flashing?
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No just unzipped

I'd like to see some comparison between the GB radios, and this one. Everyone that flashed this, post up some before and after numbers if you could.
Thanks,

theReDkoolAiD said:
No just unzipped
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Thanks it worked. We'll see how it works
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OK...so when I did the speed test on speakeasy through the phone browser I got 13 mbps (EE4 radio), and did it one more time to test and still got 13. I just did a test again but with wifi tether 3.1 b1 (w/infrastructure) on my computer and got 21 mbps (tested 5 times). I dont know whats going on.....

Thanks for all of the hard work kejar, I love gummycharged. How can we go back to the EE4 from the EP1F? Is it something we unzip and flash through odin, or can it be done through recovery?
Thanks!

unzip and flash through odin.

radio battery life
I'm running GB Eclipse 1.2 with baseband/radio EP1F , and I'm wondering if this'll improve battery life? Anyone notice improved battery life for this setup?

Seems to have helped mine somewhat. At work I am in a basement and before I was at -105 dBm. After flashing this I am at -90dBm. 4G Will not make it down here though

Unusual LTE speeds EP1f nameless kernel

Hey, just seeing if anyone has a fix for this. I am using the new nameless rom and it is amazing BUUUUTTTT my data speeds are only about 5mbps when I was getting 26mbps prior. I switched back to straight stock and it still is slower than I would like. Any advice on what I can do?

I have heard on a couple of threads that the speedtest.net app doesn't work right with this leak. Try using the speak easy website and do a speed test off that to see if your speeds change at all
Also this probably should be in the general section not the development section.

I've never pulled speeds that high I'm stuck st five and there a lte coverage throughout my whole city???
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yeah, I've been quite spoiled I want it baaaaacccckkkkk lol!

Like stated above...the speedtest app is not something to go by on these gingerbread leaks. They are inaccurate (by a lot).

I'm on froyo
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Not to say that you are wrong, but the kernel itself won't effect your data speed. If 4G turns on and is functional in the sense that you are able to use the 4G network, then the kernel is working as it should. It's possible that your area put a cap on the speed you were seeing, and now you are not seeing it. However, if you flash another kernel and are back up to the speed you were seeing, then I will definitely investigate.

navenedrob said:
Not to say that you are wrong, but the kernel itself won't effect your data speed. If 4G turns on and is functional in the sense that you are able to use the 4G network, then the kernel is working as it should. It's possible that your area put a cap on the speed you were seeing, and now you are not seeing it. However, if you flash another kernel and are back up to the speed you were seeing, then I will definitely investigate.
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I'm with him. Radio/modem would affect data speed, not kernel.

Has anyone tried the EE4 radio's I released yesterday?

I have read everywhere that 2.3.4 does not like speedtest

Kudos to this thread not getting roasted. I'm jealous. Especially in the development section.

Sorry, I put a new last night. The ep1h radio. I am going to try Kejar's EE4 radio tonight and hopefully that will fix it!!!

The EP1H radio will fix your problem and you'll be able to keep the GB leak, as you can flash the EP1H radio-only via Odin.

kejar31 said:
Has anyone tried the EE4 radio's I released yesterday?
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I havent yet, but it is on my list of todo's for today

kejar31 said:
Has anyone tried the EE4 radio's I released yesterday?
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I have been running it all day and it's been working just fine. No more static when I receive phone calls. Thanks a ton for the EE4 radios.
Speedwise, running speed test from speedtest.net from my labtop via wireless tether, I'm seeing speeds of 10Mbps down and 1.3Mbps up. The speed differences for me in my area are the same from both the ep1h and ee4 radios. I ran 5 sets of test for each radio to the same server.
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asenduk said:
I have read everywhere that 2.3.4 does not like speedtest
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I didn't mean that gingerbread in general i just meant it seamed off using the speedtest app in these leaks. When i used the website i always averaged 3 or 4 extra mps down and about .5 to 1 mps up. I even used the same servers on both of them. I also heard the same for others but when i compared the website speed for the leaks to the speedtest app of froyo(EE4) they usually matched each other. So i have just been blaming the app for the mix up.

Gingerbread vs froyo roms

So I'm bouncing back and forth between gummy and humble but i've yet to leave froyo. Is there a difference in performance between froyo and gingerbread... For roms not stock.?

Stock GB is faster than stock EE4 Froyo.
Froyo with all of the speed enhancing fixes and scripts is faster than stock GB.
I haven't tested any ROMs really with GB yet so I can't say, but I don't think there are many speed fixes for it yet...
Most of what you'll hear about GB is placebo effect, tbh. Just wait for OTA GB.

Stock EP1W (GB) is pretty snappy. I personally haven't had a single FC or reboot as of yet. This is supposedly the 'official' GB build.
Also I believe the soon to be released Gummy GBE 2.0 as well as DarkSlide ROMs are going to be based off the EP1W framework.

You really won't notice much difference between the two, but Froyo with speed tweaks scores much higher in Quadrant of that's your kind of thing.
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kvswim said:
You really won't notice much difference between the two, but Froyo with speed tweaks scores much higher in Quadrant of that's your kind of thing.
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But if you ignore benchmarks and just go by feel, GB beats the hell out of any Froyo rom.

shrike1978 said:
But if you ignore benchmarks and just go by feel, GB beats the hell out of any Froyo rom.
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I didn't notice any speed differences. If anything, GB was slower than Froyo. But then again, the last GB version I tried was EP1F.
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kvswim said:
I didn't notice any speed differences. If anything, GB was slower than Froyo. But then again, the last GB version I tried was EP1F.
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u should try out EP1W if only for ****s & giggles.
Feels like a different animal..

I just cane back to froyo on humble 1.6 from the EP1w gb leak, and I have to say that I really like the feel of GB so far. With supercharged v7 running, the phone felt very snappy, never had a random reboot, and performance was all around great.
The main thing that brought me back to FROYO was the fact that the GPS fix hasn't (to my knowledge) made it to GB yet. I use my GPS a lot, and I couldn't stand going back to waiting over a minute for a lock.
Bow that I am back on froyo I am noticing the same inconsistent signal strength that frustrated me in the first place... so I will probably go back to GB soon. Battery life, signal strength and overall feel are nice on GB, but the call quality suffers with the new modems.
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kvswim said:
I didn't notice any speed differences. If anything, GB was slower than Froyo. But then again, the last GB version I tried was EP1F.
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EP1W is *much* better than EP1F. F was quite buggy and slow. I tried it briefly and then quickly went back to EE4. Q was quicker. It still had a few minor bugs, but I used it as my daily driver. W is butter. It's a dream to use and it is most certainly release quality. I've yet to run into anything I recognize as a bug. If you care about Quadrant, I'm getting between 1600 and 1750 on EP1W, with or without ext4. As I said before, it just feels smoother than anything else. The default brown theme is horrible, but I've managed to get rid of most of it with UOT.

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The main thing that brought me back to FROYO was the fact that the GPS fix hasn't (to my knowledge) made it to GB yet. I use my GPS a lot, and I couldn't stand going back to waiting over a minute for a lock.
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I haven't had any GPS problems on EP1W. I did have slow locks on EE4 sometimes, but haven't had any on EP1W. The lock often beats Google Maps drawing. One thing I do use is GPS Status to keep A-GPS up to date, but I did that in EE4 as well.

shrike1978 said:
EP1W is *much* better than EP1F. F was quite buggy and slow. I tried it briefly and then quickly went back to EE4. Q was quicker. It still had a few minor bugs, but I used it as my daily driver. W is butter. It's a dream to use and it is most certainly release quality. I've yet to run into anything I recognize as a bug. If you care about Quadrant, I'm getting between 1600 and 1750 on EP1W, with or without ext4. As I said before, it just feels smoother than anything else. The default brown theme is horrible, but I've managed to get rid of most of it with UOT.
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Try IMoseyON's updated true Voodoo kernel.
We are getting Quad speeds in the 2400's now.. ;D

I that kernal for Ep1W ??

babyjake said:
I that kernal for Ep1W ??
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It's for GB in general.
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kvswim said:
It's for GB in general.
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Im getting score of 2000 on bloated does that sound right

I got GummyCharged 2.0 with fugu honeycomb tweaks and v6 supercharger script and loopy script..very very awesome performance..very fast !
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