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Help pls - Root vs Forced Update

Hi everyone,
I'm running a rooted Transformer HC 3.1 and Netformer overclocking kernel.
Today I got an OTA update notification, and the update is already downloaded on my TF. I have chosen to postpone the update since I know it will fail, but I can only do this 3 times.
Questions:
1. Is there a way to cancel the update completely at this point?
2. If I let it try to update I know it will fail, but will the device still be usable normally i.e. exactly like before the attempted update?
3. Is there a way to unroot the TF without wiping the data? I would hate to have to set everything up again.
Thanks for your quick help, it seems that I don't have much time before the forced update.

I'm rooted also,if you go to this thread here and read it from front to back,i think you will find your answer... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171116
I'm gonna wait for a bigger update or a rooted version of this update.

Diablo67 said:
I'm rooted also,if you go to this thread here and read it from front to back,i think you will find your answer... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171116
I'm gonna wait for a bigger update or a rooted version of this update.
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Thanks, I 've read through the whole thread.
I don't think anyone mentioned being able to cancel the update though. Perhaps deleting the downoaded installation file would help, I might try just that...

[Q] root question

Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?

MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it

Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?

Bump for answers.

MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...

I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?

MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?

Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?

to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it

Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.

[Q] ICS questions and OTA update enforcement worries

I own an EEE PAD Transformer TF101 and its got the 8.6.5.21(WW) firmware and I rooted it via Nachoroot and have installed CWM to be able to make full system backups/restores.
Now in the one hand I'm elated a new Android version called ICS is coming soon but have a couple of 'fears' and questions.
-Will the Tegra2 inside the TF101 run ICS just as smooth as Honeycomb ?
-I want to choose the moment ICS gets updated myself and I hate being forced by OTA but am I right that with Nachoroot and CWM installed it won't work anyways so no fears for that ?
-In that case I still keep getting OTA notifications I guess. Is here a tool to switch that off ?
Would it be wise to use OTA Keeper to backup my root or has OTA Keeper got any drawbacks ?
I bet ICS will at first not be rootable anyways right ?

maicod said:
I own an EEE PAD Transformer TF101 and its got the 8.6.5.21(WW) firmware and I rooted it via Nachoroot and have installed CWM to be able to make full system backups/restores.
Now in the one hand I'm elated a new Android version called ICS is coming soon but have a couple of 'fears' and questions.
-Will the Tegra2 inside the TF101 run ICS just as smooth as Honeycomb ?
-I want to choose the moment ICS gets updated myself and I hate being forced by OTA but am I right that with Nachoroot and CWM installed it won't work anyways so no fears for that ?
-In that case I still keep getting OTA notifications I guess. Is here a tool to switch that off ?
Would it be wise to use OTA Keeper to backup my root or has OTA Keeper got any drawbacks ?
I bet ICS will at first not be rootable anyways right ?
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Correct. A rooted device most likely will have OTA disabled. To confirm, just go into Settings -> About Tablet and if you see a Check for System Update link, then OTA is probably still enabled. You may have to put a rebuilt Rom like Krakd or Prime 2.11 to have OTA disabled.
I think that Root will come fairly quickly for ICS considering the Source has been released for a long while. So the guys who look for those root exploits probably already have a nice stash lined up for when devices receive their updates.
Tegra 2 is plenty powerful enough to run ICS, that combined with the amount of Ram you shouldn't be to worried about that.
If you want...hop over to the Development threads and grab the latest ICS port from Paul Burton. That way you can check it out and see how you feel about ICS. Note: Paul's build are still considered early and some things may not work as you want, but that doesn't mean they won't work at all once Asus pushes out the official build or when Paul finishes up his port.

if you do flash paul's ROM please ask any questions in this thread HERE, and not in the dev thread. Also, be sure to read everything before flashing. It isn't quite complete and you will want to go back to HC after you flash.

gVibeR said:
Correct. A rooted device most likely will have OTA disabled. To confirm, just go into Settings -> About Tablet and if you see a Check for System Update link, then OTA is probably still enabled.
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I checked and the update link still works and I'm sure I will still get OTA notifications
One good thing is that I noticed that since the RESCUE partition is replaced with CWM that OTA will fail when it reboots into rescue mode to install the update.
I am not keen on installing these ROMS that you mentioned since I don't know what is removed etc. compared to the original roms.
I was thinking this:
since I have root access isn't there a way to remove the OTA update service from starting up by using "terminal emulator" from the Android Market and edit the config file or directory where the OTA update notification service gets started ? Anyone knows if this is possible and how ?
I moved /system/UpdateLauncher.apk and Updatelauncher.odex into another map but that didn't stop the notifications and renaming ota.certs isnt wise since the new firmware update file will keep downloading again and again.
gVibeR said:
I think that Root will come fairly quickly for ICS considering the Source has been released for a long while. So the guys who look for those root exploits probably already have a nice stash lined up for when devices receive their updates.
Tegra 2 is plenty powerful enough to run ICS, that combined with the amount of Ram you shouldn't be to worried about that.
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okay cool !
Thanks for the Paul Burton tip but I think I just wait until ICS comes available. I bet it won't take long anymore.

maicod said:
I checked and the update link still works and I'm sure I will still get OTA notifications
One good thing is that I noticed that since the RESCUE partition is replaced with CWM that OTA will fail when it reboots into rescue mode to install the update.
I am not keen on installing these ROMS that you mentioned since I don't know what is removed etc. compared to the original roms.
I was thinking this:
since I have root access isn't there a way to remove the OTA update service from starting up by using "terminal emulator" from the Android Market and edit the config file or directory where the OTA update notification service gets started ? Anyone knows if this is possible and how ?
I moved /system/UpdateLauncher.apk and Updatelauncher.odex into another map but that didn't stop the notifications and renaming ota.certs isnt wise since the new firmware update file will keep downloading again and again.
okay cool !
Thanks for the Paul Burton tip but I think I just wait until ICS comes available. I bet it won't take long anymore.
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Dont screw with the system its just not good news!!!!!!
If you have cwm recovery ota will check and you will know when ics arrives but it wont install because of the custom recovery not because of root as stated above.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

If you don't want to get the update at all, freeze or disable DMClient app.

Annoying Update Box - Rooted So I Can't

Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.

FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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Download Root Uninstaller: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.dohkoos.rootuninstaller&hl=en
Open Root Uninstaller and uninstall software update. If you don't want to uninstall it, then open Settings, go to Applications (or Application Management if you are on 4.0.4) then scroll down to Software update and tap on it. Then, hit clear data, and then hit disable.

FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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Delete the Fota System app

Urgent problem with ota update 5.0

HI was downloading the new update 5.0 but it stopped and now the tablet says me "your system is updated" but with the 6.0.1.I can't restart the download now,what i have to do???

Same thing happened to me. Don't know why yet.

Same here. Where are you from?

Nvidia might have pulled it to fix something wait patiently it will come.

I had a similar problem as well. I got the notification to download the update, and when I clicked on the "Download" button in the notification, it did nothing. When I went into my settings and opened the OTA updater, it kept telling me that "Your system is up to date," even after repeatedly pressing the "Check Now" button, selecting "Clear data," rebooting, and messing with the advanced settings. I hope they fix this soon, I was really excited about this update!

Exact same issue here.

If you haven't root/twrp etc:
Download from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/5-0-update-nougat-incoming-t3553612/page2 (there are two version - k1 & standard).
Paste it to internal memory, boot into recovery and apply update from zip.

Just wait a little. That's what NVIDIA calls "staggered rollout".

Just wanted to update and say that I got my OTA this morning and will apply it later this afternoon. Guess, just as suggested earlier, they staggered them. It's strange though that they actually pulled it back, but then again it might have been an issue with it.

if you have "nougat launcher apk" just delete it.

Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?

My 2 cents: if the root is confirmed to work, there is no "process" per se.
D/L the root zip to the tablet, boot into recovery, flash that zip and reboot into system.
Should be within 2-3 min the whole thing.

Wayno-san said:
Been a while since I rooted mine and I'd prefer not to lose root. Anyone know if there's going to be a pre-rooted version available that won't require going through the whole process again? Honestly I don't recall if it was difficult or not but I know for previous phones I've had there was a rooted version of the OTA that someone would post within a day or two of the release. Made the whole update process quicker and easier.
Also, for those who have updated, how is the performance compared to Marshmallow?
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Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/

pucka said:
Performance feels good so far. Don't know if there will be a pre-rooted version, but it's fairly simple and fast to root since your bootloader is unlocked and you'll get to keep all your data. If you want custom recovery I had to use the TWRP app after root to flash the recovery. Couldn't get it to stick using fastboot. There's a good rooting guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-...ndroid-7-nougat/root-shield-tablet-k1-nougat/
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Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.

Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the info and the guide link. If I'm rooted can I let the update to nougat proceed and then just follow the procedure in the link? Thought I read somewhere that I need to unroot it first.
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Yes you can just apply the update and there's no need to flash stock first. If you want to flash TWRP I would recommend getting root first by sideloading (like in the guide) and then using the TWRP app to flash TWRP.
I'm now rooted again with TWRP as custom recovery.