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[Q] OTA after root possible?

Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!

abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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Yes and no. If you stick with a stock ROM, you'll be able to download the OTAs/get notified about them. However, if you use ClockworkMod Recovery (which you really should) you won't be able to install the OTA. Well, it'll try but, it'll fail. The best bet is to be patient and one of the devs will release their versions of the new ROM.

abprie said:
Hej there,
A simple question, cause I couldn't find the answer for myself: if I root my transformer, will I still be able to get the OTA updates or update with the downloaded support files from Asus (if I stay with the stock rom)?
Thanks!
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It might depend which method you used to root, but I doubt it. I did the rooting via the 'pure root' method and I receive the notifications.
Since I just backed up after updating to 8.5.5.6, I decided to see what happened if I clicked on the upgrade nag notification, and all it did was say that it cancelled it, and does not nag me now.
I have no clue if it'll do the same for everyone. We all follow a lot of paths to generally the same place in rooting, so not sure. I did have an HTC incredible actually unroot itself via an update notification, so I removed the OTA Certification services.

Well, thanks to both of you for the clarification!

Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?

abprie said:
Additional question: after rooting, when I want to install an update, would it be possible to unroot and then install the update?
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Yes. Just go into /system/app/ and delete superuser.apk. Just note that when you have root, you can't change a lot of the system files otherwise there will be problems with the OTA.
I would personally just rock custom ROMs. They get updated fast to the latest OTA. But that's just me.

[Q] Iconia A500 3.2.1 ota downgrade

Hey all have a wifi Iconia A500 stock ota 3.2.1 wondering is it safe to downgrade using method two as posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227

Hi i used first method

hamsterksu said:
Hi i used first method
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Did you have 3.2.1 installed or 3.2? Mainly was hoping to use method 2 as it seems more noob proof. Tottaly new to android and dont really get the gist of custom firmware yet. I thought with method 2 their would be less chance of something going wrong.

i had 3.2
i used the following soft: EUUs_SBK_Acer_A501_0.017.01_PA_ATT.exe
i just edit config in the remp folder. i changed uid and model from 501 to 500

Today i bit the bullet and tried method 2 all went smooth no issue now running thors rom on rooted iconia edit note I was on default acer australia rom 3.2.1

ok so after playing with custom roms for full day and not finding one I liked more than the stock I decided to return to stock. I got it done from the 3.2 ota rom from the developer section. Just wondering if I have to do anything else to receive ota updates again. I have used the check for update feature but it says I'm up to date when I know there is a 3.2.1 update available as I had it before I installed the custom from. Is it just a matter of waiting for it?

Anyone here or anywhere else on the web been able to get hold of the stock
3.2.1 update to sideload the update?

ok after spending most of the day reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113878 and trying to digest all the info gee major brain scrammble looks like I will no longer receive ota updates. My bad should have spent more time reading instead of jumping in head first. So now I can either wait for ota updates to be posted here and manually update or go back to custom roms full time. So looks like I will be going with option 2 I found a thread here that ics is in the works so don't feel so bad bout my major stuff up. Out of interest will Acer restore defaults for a price?

Back to stock and getting ota updates see my post on page 25 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664

Hi bulcmal, you seem to know how to solve my question:
I own a new ICONIA A500 and after a few moment with it I updated to 3.2 without reading about it and knowing that has a lot of bugs. Now I want to go back to OTA 3.1 so my question is next one:
After I use the second method presented here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1276227
Can I update to 3.1 freely (using the update function on the settings).
Thanks a lot.

Method 2 downgrade and you have the right room for your country I don't see why it wouldn't work. After you downgrade when it reboots you will get lots of force close don't panic its fine, then shutdown tablet complete remove your micro sd card delete the downgrade rom and copy the stock rom to the sd card( I just used a cheap card reader for this) then reboot while holding down volume button on left side and power button keap holding till small white text appears in upper left of tablet screen. On a side note its very important to test unzip both updates (the downgrade rom and the stock rom) to be sure they are not corrupt if the process fails to unzip either update you could brick your tab. Also both roms will be called update. Zip don't unzip files any further than this other than to test that they can be unzipped without issues. I take no responsibility if things go pear shaped just describing what I did.

tebaniconia85 said:
After I use the second method presented here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1276227
Can I update to 3.1 freely (using the update function on the settings).
Thanks a lot.
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I wouldn't risk updating from the settings menu the downgrade rom is very unstable and you may get errors see post above cheers.

Hi, I read the post above and have two more questions:
First:
I bought the tablet on Amazon US. How do I know which rom do I need?
And second:
After I flash the stock rom, the OTA updates will be available?
I am new to this flashing thing so bare with me if my questions are a bit stupid.
Thanks a lot.

Do you think this will work with a USB storage?

tebaniconia85 said:
Hi, I read the post above and have two more questions:
First:
I bought the tablet on Amazon US. How do I know which rom do I need?
And second:
After I flash the stock rom, the OTA updates will be available?
I am new to this flashing thing so bare with me if my questions are a bit stupid.
Thanks a lot.
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I dont know wich stock rom you would need Usally you would search for the rom based on what country you are in. But seeing as you imported it I dont know how it would work. On the other hand if you got ota updates in your country perhaps it is now running your countries firmware. I succesfully got ota updates after doing this.

Alecegonce said:
Do you think this will work with a USB storage?
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??? Do you mean can you use usb storage to do the downgrade and the installation of the stock rom? If so I think it only works from the micro sd card slot.

Also guys the 3.2.1 update is currently being rolled out if you dont need root you could always wait for that update it may also fix your issues cheers

how long has the 3.2.1 update been rolling out? still stuck on 3.2 here in melbourne. I got the tablet a week ago and it updated only up to 3.2.

I originally got it early-mid november, then acer pulled the update. It was re released about 2 weeks ago. I am still waiting for it to come back to.

ok, thought i was being left behind. guess i have to be patient lol

[Q] ICS questions and OTA update enforcement worries

I own an EEE PAD Transformer TF101 and its got the 8.6.5.21(WW) firmware and I rooted it via Nachoroot and have installed CWM to be able to make full system backups/restores.
Now in the one hand I'm elated a new Android version called ICS is coming soon but have a couple of 'fears' and questions.
-Will the Tegra2 inside the TF101 run ICS just as smooth as Honeycomb ?
-I want to choose the moment ICS gets updated myself and I hate being forced by OTA but am I right that with Nachoroot and CWM installed it won't work anyways so no fears for that ?
-In that case I still keep getting OTA notifications I guess. Is here a tool to switch that off ?
Would it be wise to use OTA Keeper to backup my root or has OTA Keeper got any drawbacks ?
I bet ICS will at first not be rootable anyways right ?

maicod said:
I own an EEE PAD Transformer TF101 and its got the 8.6.5.21(WW) firmware and I rooted it via Nachoroot and have installed CWM to be able to make full system backups/restores.
Now in the one hand I'm elated a new Android version called ICS is coming soon but have a couple of 'fears' and questions.
-Will the Tegra2 inside the TF101 run ICS just as smooth as Honeycomb ?
-I want to choose the moment ICS gets updated myself and I hate being forced by OTA but am I right that with Nachoroot and CWM installed it won't work anyways so no fears for that ?
-In that case I still keep getting OTA notifications I guess. Is here a tool to switch that off ?
Would it be wise to use OTA Keeper to backup my root or has OTA Keeper got any drawbacks ?
I bet ICS will at first not be rootable anyways right ?
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Correct. A rooted device most likely will have OTA disabled. To confirm, just go into Settings -> About Tablet and if you see a Check for System Update link, then OTA is probably still enabled. You may have to put a rebuilt Rom like Krakd or Prime 2.11 to have OTA disabled.
I think that Root will come fairly quickly for ICS considering the Source has been released for a long while. So the guys who look for those root exploits probably already have a nice stash lined up for when devices receive their updates.
Tegra 2 is plenty powerful enough to run ICS, that combined with the amount of Ram you shouldn't be to worried about that.
If you want...hop over to the Development threads and grab the latest ICS port from Paul Burton. That way you can check it out and see how you feel about ICS. Note: Paul's build are still considered early and some things may not work as you want, but that doesn't mean they won't work at all once Asus pushes out the official build or when Paul finishes up his port.

if you do flash paul's ROM please ask any questions in this thread HERE, and not in the dev thread. Also, be sure to read everything before flashing. It isn't quite complete and you will want to go back to HC after you flash.

gVibeR said:
Correct. A rooted device most likely will have OTA disabled. To confirm, just go into Settings -> About Tablet and if you see a Check for System Update link, then OTA is probably still enabled.
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I checked and the update link still works and I'm sure I will still get OTA notifications
One good thing is that I noticed that since the RESCUE partition is replaced with CWM that OTA will fail when it reboots into rescue mode to install the update.
I am not keen on installing these ROMS that you mentioned since I don't know what is removed etc. compared to the original roms.
I was thinking this:
since I have root access isn't there a way to remove the OTA update service from starting up by using "terminal emulator" from the Android Market and edit the config file or directory where the OTA update notification service gets started ? Anyone knows if this is possible and how ?
I moved /system/UpdateLauncher.apk and Updatelauncher.odex into another map but that didn't stop the notifications and renaming ota.certs isnt wise since the new firmware update file will keep downloading again and again.
gVibeR said:
I think that Root will come fairly quickly for ICS considering the Source has been released for a long while. So the guys who look for those root exploits probably already have a nice stash lined up for when devices receive their updates.
Tegra 2 is plenty powerful enough to run ICS, that combined with the amount of Ram you shouldn't be to worried about that.
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okay cool !
Thanks for the Paul Burton tip but I think I just wait until ICS comes available. I bet it won't take long anymore.

maicod said:
I checked and the update link still works and I'm sure I will still get OTA notifications
One good thing is that I noticed that since the RESCUE partition is replaced with CWM that OTA will fail when it reboots into rescue mode to install the update.
I am not keen on installing these ROMS that you mentioned since I don't know what is removed etc. compared to the original roms.
I was thinking this:
since I have root access isn't there a way to remove the OTA update service from starting up by using "terminal emulator" from the Android Market and edit the config file or directory where the OTA update notification service gets started ? Anyone knows if this is possible and how ?
I moved /system/UpdateLauncher.apk and Updatelauncher.odex into another map but that didn't stop the notifications and renaming ota.certs isnt wise since the new firmware update file will keep downloading again and again.
okay cool !
Thanks for the Paul Burton tip but I think I just wait until ICS comes available. I bet it won't take long anymore.
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Dont screw with the system its just not good news!!!!!!
If you have cwm recovery ota will check and you will know when ics arrives but it wont install because of the custom recovery not because of root as stated above.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

If you don't want to get the update at all, freeze or disable DMClient app.

Annoying Update Box - Rooted So I Can't

Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
PS
Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.

FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
PS
Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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Download Root Uninstaller: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.dohkoos.rootuninstaller&hl=en
Open Root Uninstaller and uninstall software update. If you don't want to uninstall it, then open Settings, go to Applications (or Application Management if you are on 4.0.4) then scroll down to Software update and tap on it. Then, hit clear data, and then hit disable.

FlynnErik said:
Where is the file or the setting or etc, that triggers the P3113 to tell me it has an update and ask me if I want to update now or later?
I am rooted and from what I have read there is no way to update with CWM/Root.
I don't wanna flash the update with Odin, or CM 10 till i get back from a business trip in a few weeks (when we might have an OTA JB leak by then anyway).
So what is the best way to get rid of that annoying pop up?
Thanks in advance for your help!
PS
Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't seen it, but then again I am sure there isn't a lot of people on here with this issue.
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Delete the Fota System app

[Q] new to forums.. info required on 4.4.1 pls

hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about

No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait

ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.

ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500

ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1

To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?

mmmmBACON said:
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device

donentl are
thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!