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i am sure you have all read the news.... google sending cyanogen a cease and desist order
http://androidandme.com/2009/09/hacks/cyanogenmod-in-trouble/
please cast ur vote in this thread as a petition
for anyone who doesnt quite get it, google is threatening the future of custom ROM development...not just cyanogens ROMs
you wanna keep using ur favorite custom ROM? let google know they cant push these guys around
although they cant stop us making roms, they want us to stop including google propriatory apps
Where's the 3rd option for wait and see? Google has every right to do this however that doesn't make it any less ****ty.
a bit late now, cant edit polls i dont think....
anyway, kinda takes away from the impact
I don't think they can do anything about it, they don't know where he lives.
Wow thats great. Cyanogen and devs like him are what are keeping android relevant. Shut down the devs and I for one will go back to winmo.
Won't this affect all devs?
Won't this affect all roms?
If this scenario plays out, we will have a mess on our hands.
Why did the even bother to issue and distribute developer phones?
Maybe I just don't understand.
Maemo 5 is looking better and better. Thanks a lot Google.
This is ridiculous! D:
Google......the new Apple!!
cyanogen has gave everyone something lets show some support
My Google Experience
Sucked!!!!! Not long ago Google and Tmobile sold me a piece of S#!T, that was slow only hold about 20 good apps. I was ready to throw it out the window under a moving bus!!!!! Cyanogen is the only person that made to keep this phone, but if no more usable ROMS, that Nokia N900 is looking real nice about now,or even the palm pre, i guess its time to start saving $ again
wow wtf man. cyan and every other dev really did make android way better then what thery have right now. having root on your android makes using it so much easier. and! all the devs made htc and googles dev's work way better. i think there just jelous becuase they didnt push it earlier. also why didnt they stop haykuro when he was working on 1.5, damn man. lol cyan should make another sn and release it under there and says with help from cyanogen.
open source my a$$.
cyanogen made me rethink the possibilities on my G1, if google follows through with this... dare i say it... ugh I WILL GO TO AN I PHONE.. barrrfffffffff
but i will cause seriously Cyanogen is a genius, they need to hire him to train their own dev's cause their **** aint got nuthin on cyanogen's roms
Didn't google promise us open source well this goes against it in every way
If it is such a big issues than offer those closed source apps on the market and cyan can pull them out of his roms. Problem solved
If google proceeds in this direction, then i forsee android tanking
Every one here is either using something from cyan or has at some point
Wow what a douche move google. The only thing that will end here is probably the busy android dev section. There will always be developing going on forums that allow illegal activity.
We will always have hacked roms . We will just have to move to a new forum unless xda changes there ways.
Anyways looks like some one is jealous of cyans killer skills
They have absolutely no right to do this. Every bit (no pun intended) of the computing world should be open source. Anyone whom feels otherwise is part of the problem and an enemy to knowledge and free thought. An individual whom takes part in the suppression of knowledge is guilty of the highest crimes of humanity, and should be punished justly.
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Wow thats great. Cyanogen and devs like him are what are keeping android relevant. Shut down the devs and I for one will go back to winmo.
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Yeah if Google follows through I'm getting the TouchPro 2 and forget about Android. G1 and Android is nothing without custom roms to me.
im amazed we had a vote for "no"
any member of these forums must realize the bigger picture with this....
about 30,000 installs of the CM-Updater cant be lying.....people love and NEED these roms....
While they do have the "right" to do this, it will not benefit them...
If it is the closed source bits that are the issue, then they are essentially saying it's ok to release a rom with every google app removed (no gmail, no maps, no youtube, etc.)
Do they not want their customers to use their services? Do they want me to use a yahoo email account? Do they want me to use mapquest? I fail to see how that would be to their benefit.
If they don't like him releasing these roms then they should do better themselves so devs wouldn't have to release them! Step it up google. I dare you to outdo Cyanogen. I double dog dare you!
Some Devs need to make open-source replacement apps for the one's Google's making a stink about... then Cyan won't have any problems.
i was looking though the touch wiz sys dump and i liked the keyboard so i put it in an update format. Just flash it, i gurantee youll like it. If not just remove it. I included the lwp as well that were posted earlier the lwp from it too, they work great on the phone though, I need someone to test it for me, cus swype is a pain to remove w/o wiping, and i already have all this on my phone. you just need to flash it like a rom. It contains 4lwp and 1keyboard app and their libs...dl the new lwp and kb HERE
Any chance of just getting the KB?
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Screen shot?
installed and i opens but will not work, as in i can swype but no words show up in the box. oh well
it also installs like 5 live wallpapers
Yeah only regular tap input works.
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driguez said:
Any chance of just getting the KB?
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just rip it out of the zip
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no time, sorry. you can rip them out and just install though, just make sure you take the lib files that go with them in your libs folder and the apps in your sys/app or data/app folder.
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installed and i opens but will not work, as in i can swype but no words show up in the box. oh well
it also installs like 5 live wallpapers
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thanks for testing it and the quick feedback. i stated that it included the lwps in the op. they are from the new touch wiz dump. Ill check to see whats up with swype, just figured id throw it out there for those that didnt see this stuff yet....also, did you remove your old swype completely? or did you not have it? cus its VERY hard to get rid of.....just wondering so i can fix if something wrong.
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Yeah only regular tap input works.
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sorry about that, and thanks.ok, soon as i get home ill post a link to a really sweet htc skinned swype mod. i use the red one in my newest rom, but the green one is slick too. im going to hang out for a little bit, when i get back ill put it up, and just take it out of the other one and ill mess with it, since its a full version.....
Let me see if I can accurately decipher this thread:
You saw something you liked, but didn't test it because its too much work to uninstall what you already have but that's ok because you already have it installed so you need someone else to take a blind leap of faith and install something you "gurantee" they'll like but if they don't that's ok too because they can just uninstall it (which really they can't do easily) but if you want to see what it is in the first place tough luck because you're out and about and have no time to post a screenshot for your own quasi-release?
If I were Canadian, I'd add "Eh?" at the end of that.
I strongly recommend that if you want to be taken seriously, you put a little more thought into your release posts. I applaud you for taking the time to share with the community, but frivolous posting of root-level patches without some form of quality control on your part could lead to a dangerous precedent of buggy and/or malicious code being introduced in the same channels.
I know you probably have the communities best interest at heart, but holding yourself to a higher standard keeps the bar high for the rest of those issuing releases to demonstrate an aptitude for solid documentation so people know precisely what to expect from dedicated contributors.
Good Luck!
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Let me see if I can accurately decipher this thread:
You saw something you liked, but didn't test it because its too much work to uninstall what you already have but that's ok because you already have it installed so you need someone else to take a blind leap of faith and install something you "gurantee" they'll like but if they don't that's ok too because they can just uninstall it (which really they can't do easily) but if you want to see what it is in the first place tough luck because you're out and about and have no time to post a screenshot for your own quasi-release?
If I were Canadian, I'd add "Eh?" at the end of that.
I strongly recommend that if you want to be taken seriously, you put a little more thought into your release posts. I applaud you for taking the time to share with the community, but frivolous posting of root-level patches without some form of quality control on your part could lead to a dangerous precedent of buggy and/or malicious code being introduced in the same channels.
I know you probably have the communities best interest at heart, but holding yourself to a higher standard keeps the bar high for the rest of those issuing releases to demonstrate an aptitude for solid documentation so people know precisely what to expect from dedicated contributors.
Good Luck!
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Do you really think i need YOU or ANYONE else to take ME seriously? my work speaks for itself, i could care less what you think of me, but just dont be disrespectful or snotty about it when you obviously have no clue as to what i do, if you say " which really they can't do easily" when you are speaking about removing a single app.I take it youve never been to dev? cus thats what ive been doing for the past 3 days, is working on my last rom. Then when i finish something that takes more than a day i take a break. I am not a developer nor have i ever claimed to be one.i have many contributions to the site,and taken a **** ton of time making sure my theads for them are maintained and everything i work on i support. Not a blind leap of faith, i have many pps that ASK to test for me because i dont have time to when im working. I have a 8mo old and fiance to take care of as well, this cannot be my ENTIRE life(though i might enjoy that)ive been asked permission to port 4 of my roms to other devices, and about 100 pps i talk to on a regular basis,you can talk to that will tell you another story about what I can DO. ? is what can YOU do? and WHY would you be ragging on someone who makes regular contributions to the site to help members enjoy their newest hardware just a little bit more? you want to see more go to hero-cdma and tell me some more about quality control. Search my name, check out a few of my mod threads both visually and contextually and then read what you just wrote one more time.....by the way, your a very good writer. You should be a reporter for national enquirer if you feel compelled to post again, can you please remain a little more on topic and a little less on me.....thanks
Thanks for this magnusragnarok! Any chance you could try to get an update zip with the t9 ime in the i9000 dump? I'm curious to see how the Sammy virtual keyboard looks. Also, that guy apparently doesn't realize how big of an asset you've been to the hero and evo communities. Keep up the great work!
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Do you really think i need YOU or ANYONE else to take ME seriously? my work speaks for itself, i could care less what you think of me, but just dont be disrespectful or snotty about it when you obviously have no clue as to what i do, if you say " which really they can't do easily" when you are speaking about removing a single app.I take it youve never been to dev? cus thats what ive been doing for the past 3 days, is working on my last rom. Then when i finish something that takes more than a day i take a break. I am not a developer nor have i ever claimed to be one.i have many contributions to the site,and taken a **** ton of time making sure my theads for them are maintained and everything i work on i support. Not a blind leap of faith, i have many pps that ASK to test for me because i dont have time to when im working. I have a 8mo old and fiance to take care of as well, this cannot be my ENTIRE life(though i might enjoy that)ive been asked permission to port 4 of my roms to other devices, and about 100 pps i talk to on a regular basis,you can talk to that will tell you another story about what I can DO. ? is what can YOU do? and WHY would you be ragging on someone who makes regular contributions to the site to help members enjoy their newest hardware just a little bit more? you want to see more go to hero-cdma and tell me some more about quality control. Search my name, check out a few of my mod threads both visually and contextually and then read what you just wrote one more time.....by the way, your a very good writer. You should be a reporter for national enquirer if you feel compelled to post again, can you please remain a little more on topic and a little less on me.....thanks
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GAHHHHHH MY EYEEESSS!!!!!
Comic sans?! Seriously?
maxinspace said:
Thanks for this magnusragnarok! Any chance you could try to get an update zip with the t9 ime in the i9000 dump? I'm curious to see how the Sammy virtual keyboard looks. Also, that guy apparently doesn't realize how big of an asset you've been to the hero and evo communities. Keep up the great work!
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lemme check that out. i completely overlooked it. pretty sure i can. i can use all the practice i can get, i just have to rm it from the dump and find the libs that go with it, should be just like ours though. Ill pm you once i get it, then ill put it up if anyone else wants it. You have any screenies? just wondering what im workin for
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GAHHHHHH MY EYEEESSS!!!!!
Comic sans?! Seriously?
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SERIOUSLY, why whould you make it 2wice as bad by requoting the entire post in ITALICS? GOOD JOB. PLEASE try to remain on topic, this is a thread about a kb and the touch wiz lwp i put together in one update for everyones convenience, not about my choice of font and color. If we were not allowed the choice we would not have it available to us.
If you took a moment to actually absorb what I posted, you would recognize I did not besmirch your contributions, but was offering a point of constructive criticism.
Regardless of the quality or lack thereof of your "releases", your posts are plagued with you getting into flame wars with people because you feel like you have to defend yourself against any form of critique you don't agree with.
But hey, if you have five people who think your work is on par with some of those that I have donated to, by all means cater to that denominator. I'll gladly keep my feedback to myself and save it for someone who can handle dialogue with a little more class.
PS: Geocities is dead. You should let the single-paragraph-don't-have-time-to-run-auto-spellcheck-let's-use-teal-this-time-on-large-comic-sans-font-smash-your-forehead-on-the-keyboard-to-select-punctation diatribes die with it.
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If you took a moment to actually absorb what I posted, you would recognize I did not besmirch your contributions, but was offering a point of constructive criticism.
Regardless of the quality or lack thereof of your "releases", your posts are plagued with you getting into flame wars with people because you feel like you have to defend yourself against any form of critique you don't agree with.
But hey, if you have five people who think your work is on par with some of those that I have donated to, by all means cater to that denominator. I'll gladly keep my feedback to myself and save it for someone who can handle dialogue with a little more class.
PS: Geocities is dead. You should let the single-paragraph-don't-have-time-to-run-auto-spellcheck-let's-use-teal-this-time-on-large-comic-sans-font-smash-your-forehead-on-the-keyboard-to-select-punctation diatribes die with it.
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7posts? are you trying to offend me or make me laugh?not sure why youre so quick to bash strangers.please remain on topic or avoid posting. this is not a debate, merely a thread for another one of my contributions. Thank you
I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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Well I can't wait for froyo + full file system lag fix
If you're not satisfied with the current rate of development, feel free to put together your own rom or even contribute to current development. The phone is what, two, three months old? Some phones didn't even have root methods for that long. If you wanted an att device that had a background of strong community hacking, should have gone with an htc device. The method of building roms on this phone is massively different and requires time to get everything sorted. And I'm willing to believe a lot of devs are waiting fur for the 2.2 source
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
gunnyman said:
Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
Looks to me like you are a good candidate to get in the kitchen and start cooking. That way you don't have to wait around for the roms and we can all play.
I don't think it's a matter of lightening up, I agree the op surely said "where are the roms?" That could have ben interpreted more than one way, which it was. Coming from the op of the forum nazi thread, sounds like you have plenty of time to start cooking and stop whining
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I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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alphadog00 said:
I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Hey gunny, I know how you feel. I too am a bit bored. The rom development is great so far but that's starting to reach it's limit with what devs can do while we wait for froyo. I would love something new to play with. Maybe flash or some awesome game to come along that really pushes this device. Gps fix from sammysung would be nice. I could drive around using that to kill some boredom.
Anyway, props to the devs. Thank god we have some good ones. I would have been bored weeks ago without and with a laggy phone on top of that.
I understand both sides but unfortunately unless you know how to dev we all must be patient. These guys have done very good work and so far it is right on par with the Vibrant, and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS. With more time will come better products, and all Galaxy S phones will be waiting for a while for 2.2. If Cyanogen comes out soon it shouldn't be hard for Eugene or someone to make a port of it, even if Eugene does not own a Captivate.
There's no need to fight guys, in all seriousness we have the best touch-screen phone on the whole market!
Gorgeous screen, specs, and soon to be a great international community of devs with the whole family of galaxy s line sharing ideas and accelerating the growth of development at a great pace.
Not to mention the soon to be implemented froyo that will not only introduce optimizations and flash, but also allow for a greater use of the phone's potential- spec wise.
Take into consideration the further development after froyo + full lag fix + a COMMUNITY effort of collaboration and I see a really bright future ahead of us.
Personally I LOVE my phone, it does everything I want it to do (I multi-task like a beast!!) BEAUTIFUL camera software.. I painlessly take panoramic shots! What more can you ask for?
Yes some high quality games compared to that of the iphone would be great, but the anti-piracy measures are not on par with the iphone at the moment, so we'll have to wait a little for the big-name app/game developers to step in.
Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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This thread sucks.
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This thread sucks.
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+1
I for one am enjoying the calm before the storm. That is, before froyo and CM6.1 are released, and all the subsequent hacking that will go with it.
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Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
Dude. Quit reading into stuff that isn't there. As for donated monies, I have indeed done so in the past. Lots. I HAVE NOT (REPEATING AGAIN) disparaged anyone or their work in my thread or any post I have ever made hear on XDA (feel free to search) If I am complaining about anything it's samsung, And YOU at the moment.
I'll say again then I'm done in this thread. Lighten up Francis.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
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Everyone take 5 deep breaths......
Better now?
And Kaik, I am NOT directing this at you personally, just used your quote. This is meant as a general comment not directed at any specific person....
Ok, I clicked on this thread because I could have written it myself, as it was intended. Which was obviously "Ok, I tried all the mods and now I want to try a new one or an update of 1 I already have."
For instance, as you can see from my signature, I run sre123. Last night, Designgears posted that 123a would be posted that night. I thought nothing of saying "ooo, can't wait, please hurry!!!" because DG knows how I meant it (I hope).
I have only seen a couple of REAL jerk posts, and those were like "hey thanks, your mod/rom broke my phone" idiots. Read the OP's and mod and your own risk, fools!
I have NEVER programmed. I understand what gets done here, having been a pc tech, but I can ONLY help by installing and testing and reporting results. This device and this forum has inspired me to try to learn what the guys like Cyanogen, Designgears, Eugene etc do. But until I learn, I will eagerly await new stuff to play with, much like the OP of this thread.
Sorry to type so long a note, but the ONLY thing that can ruin this forum is nazi's. I live in S Florida, got enough condo and homeowner association nazi's to deal with !!! =)
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..., and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS.....
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
I want the GPS fix. All Galaxy S phones come with a nonfunctioning GPS. Froyo will be great to have also but they need hurry up with the GPS. The Droid X and all Motorola Android phones have an awesome GPS out of the box. I'm hoping Samsung gets it together otherwise they're not worth buying if it lacks a feature that most phones nowadays have. This problem from Samsung shows they rush things out to fast and then once they're out they fail to repair phones currently released.
I'll be eating my words if an update gets released within a week though.
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
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From what I have read about Dev's and Tmobile is mainly because Tmob was the first to have Android. Lots of them are familiar from being already on Tmob. But that is just what I have read, does not necessarily make it correct. The dev's for the Captivate are doing a phenomenal job getting us great products.
Highlighted portion: Joking aside since I know you are, if people are impatient they really should start learning how to do this stuff. The intent of the thread missed the mark based on how it was written. We all want more ROM's or theme's or launchers etc...and they are coming but nobody has any say to be impatient when the majority of these dev's do these on a donation basis. How bad would it suck when people continue to feel impatient and the dev's decide to not dev anymore?
Hi guys,
I wanted to post this on the Axura thread, but it got closed minutes before i could do so...
Firstly, I'm not even from the USA. I'm located in South East Asia - Malaysia to be more accurate.
I managed to get hold of a Captivate and have been with Axura since day one.
[unlike you guys, I had to pay the full price of the device. There's no telco subsidy for it since, it's not an official phone in my country]
I've bricked once, lagfix multiple times from ext4 to none, to ext2 and back.
And it's been working great for me. I get fantastic signals from Adam's Axura ROM and even GPS is great. (it locks me in seconds after changing to supl.google.com).
In terms of battery life, i must say adam has done an excellent job. I upgraded from the Legend, and seeing the additional size of the screen and higher processing power, I'm getting decent battery life. (and like all of us Asians, we love the internet, so 3G consumption is ultra high).
I just wanna say this - if you can't stand the battery drain, flash another rom.
If you can't flash another rom, use the stock rom.
If that is not enough for you, get an extra battery - i believe it's more affordable for you guys (we pay like 30+ USD for these same batteries).
If you think the captivate or any android phone drains battery, get a blackberry - should last you one to two full days. Or a nokia. Yes, get a nokia.
To Adam, I hope you change your mind, and continue developing.
I enjoy using Axura. And although flashing some other ROM is VERY tempting, i always find myself convincing myself not to - because i'm satisfied with it, and there's no reason for me to.
I hope to see Axura 2.6...
And i still hope...
That ROM has changed hands three times in a couple months. Someone elese will pick up that ball. YOu have to have thick skin to develop. People demand so much and offer nothing. Most do not donate to the developers or site for their upgraded devices. Then ***** and moan about paying $2 for and App like TiBu or Root Explorer that will save their asses when they do start enjoying the developer's work.
Amazing. I don't blame Adam really. Everybody *****es about the hard time given noobs on DGs threads but he stays out of the threads and lets the community police themselves.....hence he has the most popular ROMS maybe not so much because they are the best but because he will be there for the long run and eventually fix the issues. I left DG and tried the other great ROMS like Axura and Assonance since Cog 6 and P6 because those ROMS were not stable enough for me....But he has fixed them and is abandoning the OC/UV ROMS which I believe is a good idea. That is why his thread has been around and has a lot of posts. not because its the "friend;y" thread. But because it is consistent and has been there through thick and thin. Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available. As Adam can attest to now hand holding does not pay off. The "friendliest thread" is not so friendly from the users who whine about battery life, something that can easily be remedied with an extra battery, a luxury not available on more and more phones. There are always whiners no matter what who take advantage of other's hard work yet contribute nothing.
Axura can be downloaded as is and be a daily driver along with a few versions back without issues. It is a good ROM as is Assonance. Many more newer ROMS have come out. Some will disappear as fast as hey came. Others may stick around.
It was bound to happen. Hell master opened up ce axura had a tantrum closed it then reopened it, then had another tantrum and what do ya know, closed again. Hans reopened it and did a wonderful job but life took him away from axura, best dev imo, no offense to Adam. Then adam took over for a bit. Did a good job but couldn't handle the people who want free stuff to be perfect and then want more again for free lol.
Axura is an awesome rom but is and was doomed from the beginning lol
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tbong777 said:
Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available.
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tbong777 said:
That ROM has changed hands three times in a couple months. Someone elese will pick up that ball. YOu have to have thick skin to develop. People demand so much and offer nothing. Most do not donate to the developers or site for their upgraded devices. Then ***** and moan about paying $2 for and App like TiBu or Root Explorer that will save their asses when they do start enjoying the developer's work.
Amazing. I don't blame Adam really. Everybody *****es about the hard time given noobs on DGs threads but he stays out of the threads and lets the community police themselves.....hence he has the most popular ROMS maybe not so much because they are the best but because he will be there for the long run and eventually fix the issues. I left DG and tried the other great ROMS like Axura and Assonance since Cog 6 and P6 because those ROMS were not stable enough for me....But he has fixed them and is abandoning the OC/UV ROMS which I believe is a good idea. That is why his thread has been around and has a lot of posts. not because its the "friend;y" thread. But because it is consistent and has been there through thick and thin. Noobs have a tough time there because they don't want to read 10 pages back most of the time.
DG's skin is thick and his followers police their own and make people READ. Not much hand holding because all the information is readily available. As Adam can attest to now hand holding does not pay off. The "friendliest thread" is not so friendly from the users who whine about battery life, something that can easily be remedied with an extra battery, a luxury not available on more and more phones. There are always whiners no matter what who take advantage of other's hard work yet contribute nothing.
Axura can be downloaded as is and be a daily driver along with a few versions back without issues. It is a good ROM as is Assonance. Many more newer ROMS have come out. Some will disappear as fast as hey came. Others may stick around.
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No, Axura ends here. No one else is going to pick it up unless Master says so unfortunately. I was asked by Hans to take over outside of the thread as I supported it and its users like no other. Once I took over only a handful stayed with the program and treated me the same. The rest turned into a bunch of hungry vultures that would be no where without people like Hans, Master, myself and the other great devs on here. I know it is open source, but unless the person who attempts to take it over is ready for a **** storm, I highly recommend reconsidering. I wish it didn't have to end this way, but I am a man of values and do not like being disrespected and am done with it.
I believe adam was doing an excellent job. Axura is the most stable and reliable rom I have used. All of whiners out there should be ashamed of themselves. They are acting like they have paid hundreds of dollars for the roms. They are free and all of them are betas. If you don't like a rom, just flash another one. Don't whine and moan and try to piss everyone else off too. Hats off to you Adam. You did a fantastic job and we are gunna miss you.
Its all about ROM rep. DG threads are full of assholes ready to flame the next new comer for asking a simple question, same goes for Axura(not as bad as DG tho). we treat each other like ****, leading us to treat devs like ****. Its a big cluster **** of a vicious circle.
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ninjuh said:
Its all about ROM rep. DG threads are full of assholes ready to flame the next new comer for asking a simple question, same goes for Axura(not as bad as DG tho). we treat each other like ****, leading us to treat devs like ****. Its a big cluster **** of a vicious circle.
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We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.
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I believe adam was doing an excellent job. Axura is the most stable and reliable rom I have used. All of whiners out there should be ashamed of themselves. They are acting like they have paid hundreds of dollars for the roms. They are free and all of them are betas. If you don't like a rom, just flash another one. Don't whine and moan and try to piss everyone else off too. Hats off to you Adam. You did a fantastic job and we are gunna miss you.
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yea Axura was the best!
Seriously? How old is everyone? I can't believe this **** goes on in thread about phone ROM's. This is ridiculously childish.. I bite my tongue sometimes before I post because of the responses people give with their CYBER BALLS - but in the end, say F it because who the **** are they? Some guy on their laptop that read a couple pages and feels they can **** on everyone since the other guy didn't know the answer. This is an open forum for people to ask questions and get respect and guidance from those that do know the answer and should not ***** about the same question that is ALWAYS going to get asked over and over again.
Adam, good luck with whatever you decide to do.
On to the next one...
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We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.
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I believe the solution to your problem is to create a wiki, with FAQ and all. Don't answer anything via post, only put it in FAQ/changelog/fixes whatever.
As for people flaming you, don't bother. If they are truly pissed off, they will go to another ROM.
I feel bad about the devs here taking crap from whiney users. I ask certain questions, test it, if it fails, re-do the entire phone, and never complain. It is all about treating the devs and each other with respect, while I have noticed some people just whine and then want all these extra features and usually want them now. I personally, am just happy to have a stable rom running on my phone because I do not like the stock rom especially with running Froyo compared to Eclair!
Cheers,
Charlie
Axura development ends...again , come on guys LOL, is it that bad? Its only the internetz.
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Axura development ends...again , come on guys LOL, is it that bad? Its only the internetz.
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It is not just the internet. Imagine putting just about all of your free time into a project and having people complain and complain and have it seem as though you are never doing it right. The issue with the battery pushed me over the edge. You all wanted a super fast ROM that did it all. I made sure you had that and then a good portion of you whined that the battery was dying faster than you liked. You cant have the best of both worlds. Keep your eyes and ears open in the next few days. That is all I have to say.
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It is not just the internet. Imagine putting just about all of your free time into a project and having people complain and complain and have it seem as though you are never doing it right. The issue with the battery pushed me over the edge. You all wanted a super fast ROM that did it all. I made sure you had that and then a good portion of you whined that the battery was dying faster than you liked. You cant have the best of both worlds. Keep your eyes and ears open in the next few days. That is all I have to say.
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I never used Axura, it looked good, but honestly, I would just make a statement stating your stance on the battery topic and keep it moving. These people will move on and get tired of complaining and whining. You can't please everyone.
Yeah I have to say, if you're willing to ROM dev, you gotta have thicker skin. Is Samsung closing their doors because a ton of people are mad about not getting Froyo? No, because thats ridiculous. There are lots of people who love the work being done, as far as the dicks that don't, ignore them, dev for yourself and because you want to share what is working for you. I gotta say I'm gettign sick of the Axura drama, first Master, Hans, and now this? Grow up and either keep it going and ignore the haters or quit, its just getting old at this point.
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We need to end this cycle before it causes even more problems than it already has. I am in talks with right now(no names are being disclosed) to see what we will do going forward. No promises, but you may see Axura again. If it does come back that thread is going to be cleaned up and overhauled like no ones business. I am not going to dev and have assholes blowing it up.
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Thats the way it should be. You work hard and respect should be given. Thank you for all your hard work
Hope to see you back in the game.
Good luck Adam. I have been running Axura since Hans, and you contributed some amazing work! I am sorry to see it end this way, but perhaps it is for the best.
Biggest problem is that I noticed is people test these rom's by the hour or release. And some expect a perfect rom the first time. People forget this a development community. Also if people would run a rom for a week they would notice that a battery can actually improve over time. I try to run roms for a week or more and always see improved battery life. I just hate to see the dev's taking heat for their hard work. Good Luck adam and thanks for all that you done.
edit: Oh and why should devs have thicker skin? They give their work away. Nobody should have to sift through asinine comments. I damn sure wouldn't take that kind of abuse in real life. No reason to take it from some anonymous pricks on the internet.
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Yeah I have to say, if you're willing to ROM dev, you gotta have thicker skin. Is Samsung closing their doors because a ton of people are mad about not getting Froyo? No, because thats ridiculous. There are lots of people who love the work being done, as far as the dicks that don't, ignore them, dev for yourself and because you want to share what is working for you. I gotta say I'm gettign sick of the Axura drama, first Master, Hans, and now this? Grow up and either keep it going and ignore the haters or quit, its just getting old at this point.
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agreed. Like Charles Barkley said, half the people love you and the other half hate you. There's nothing you can do about it.
Many of the people in this forum are assholes, but most aren't. Why let the vocal minority win when they are clearly in the wrong?
SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
Theodor911 said:
SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
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Well you shouldnt have posted in the DEV section.... See here
But since you have. Just be glad that we have all of them to chose from. Not long ago it was slow here. And no. That thread idea has never worked.....In all the time i have been here.
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Well you shouldnt have posted in the DEV section.... See here
But since you have. Just be glad that we have all of them to chose from. Not long ago it was slow here. And no. That thread idea has never worked.....In all the time i have been here.
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I agree, it will never work. XDA is here for a reason. lets just keep doing what were doing. Also, where the hell have you been Smoke?
Theodor911 said:
SLOW THE %&*$ DOWN!
Just Kidding... but in all seriousness, the variety of roms for the Cappy is amazing. It all comes down to preference; however, I must say that with all of the updates, and new roms, I'm flashing at least twice a day and sometimes even losing track of what I'm running. (Although I know I'm currently running Andromeda and it is by far the best I've had on my Cappy. Awesome GPS lock in seconds, fast, stable.)
The point is... can we consolidate, or come up with a legit thread/wiki that clarifies the pros, cons, features, and specifications on roms. Reading 20 pages of forum after a new ROM is released is getting tiring.
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
/random thoughts
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
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I feel the same. So many roms are including everything everyone else is. Just skinning and a few differences. I stick to a select few toms and just go frombthere because there is just too much to keep track of right now.
DG you are an idol of a great developer.
It would be great if more.devastating would get together to lighten the load and make it a little easier on all involved, but then again I am excited to.see so.many great revs making a rom all their own.
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I think its just crazy that this thread even got other post
I would have thought it was over with mine. But oh well. I have been in the shadows adam
Im always here. Or kinda.... haha
i think a wiki would be convenient in some ways but more trouble than its worth. I mean who would wanna volunteer to keep up with every single rom, and update it daily?
It might help a lil with noobs trying to learn, but honestly reading through 100s of pages in one thread usually ends up helping you learn more than just the rom itself. When i first registered on this forum all i did was read for the first few months before even making a post
Guess I will jump on the bandwagon before this gets moved to the general section.
There was a point in time not so long ago where there were only about 3 ROMs for the captivate and a lot of drooling over what the other SGS variants had going on.
I for one am very happy to see the Captivate community grow and put out some good stuff. The variety and choices really help enable the end-user to get their phone to look and work how they want, end-user empowerment tends to make people happy.
Taco Bell has maybe a dozen individual ingredients but it's the way they are combined that makes each product special.
As for having to read the threads of each ROM, yea it can be a pain, but it is good for you. You are informed, can make the best choice, and know what to expect from what you are about to put on your phone.
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If you look at the feature sets, most of them are the same, just different skins, apps, etc included...
everything is pretty common knowledge since we are all running the same mods... additional apps, skins, etc are just fluff, which is why I personally don't include that kinda stuff. I will leave that to the theme and app section and the person running the rom to make it look how they want.
as far as all of us working together, I respond to all the devs who ask for help, I have joined up and help the team efforts, as well as individuals putting roms out that have asked how to do various things.
Putting it all into a wiki? No thanks, that stuff changes to much to want to deal with updating a wiki with 20 different variations on how to do a smali edit for X feature.
If you take donations, in a community based team, this always becomes a stress point, best not to take donations at that point. I won't accept a cut of team donations, someone will ***** about it if they get less or more, not worth it. (just noticed adam sent me a donation, KNOCK THAT OFF! lol)
As far as you not liking to flash a lot, get help, you are a flash addict
I wont be slowing down anytime soon, get used to it
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The note you made about the themes and such is exactly why I love Andromeda. I personally do not like the 2.0 theme, but the fact that there is an unthemed version as well as a themed version makes me the happiest panda in the world, and I think more ROM cookers should adopt this policy.
What I'd love more than anything else though, is a ROM that supports the hardware voice processing of the Captivate, as well as any custom kernels/modems the user wants. That would be the ultimate ROM in my opinion. Oh, and the 4 lockscreen mod is a must as well. I do not like the glass lockscreen
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i think a wiki would be convenient in some ways but more trouble than its worth. I mean who would wanna volunteer to keep up with every single rom, and update it daily?
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FYI-
Captivate Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
Looks like it is not too far out of date.
People complain too much....
I understand your post OP but as mentioned it won't work. What get's the me the most is when people ask, "what's changed?"...
There are CHANGE LOGS ON EVERY THREAD FOR EVERY ROM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I897
Looks like it is not too far out of date.
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maybe i interpreted the OP wrong, but it sounds like hes talking about a wiki with more detail than the one we already have
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Taco Bell has maybe a dozen individual ingredients but it's the way they are combined that makes each product special.
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Taco Bell.. I'm hungry.
It really cracks me up that this thread is still going
Every ROM is made for a handfull of people. AS it seems. So to really make a wiki and save all the Info from a few thousand users is just nutz. even to have a WiKi just for the ROMs is kinda nutz as others have said. Just so much changes daily it would be so hard to keep up with
So i guess....Like all the others. We can let this thread die now
I agree with you Smoke. With the way updates come out sometimes daily for fixes or depending on an issues hourly a Wiki would just be too hard to maintain. If some one is up for it then go for it. I just see it as a way for people not to have to read the roms thread and doing research before they flash a rom to their $500 device.
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