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Finaly! After hours and hours of updating, tweaking and backupping i finnaly got a working unlocked version of retail mango.. but... these apps aint working anymore, strange, because TouchXplorer is still working. Also Registery Editor is not working anymore!!
Are there some new alterntive apps? Especially a custom-accent changer!
You should have picked another title. I thought this is a release...
Yep, none of these are working. We already knew that. Put at least a question mark in the title
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*Bump*
any updates?
Have you, by any chance, checked the TouchXperience site any time in the last few months? Schaps has had working Mango versions of Registry Editor and Advanced Config for a good while now.
Working fine now on my hd7 with release of custom roms that are full unlocked within the past week or so.
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Working without INTEROP-UNLOCK already?
No, interop-unlock is and probably always will be required, until/unless MS comes to their senses regarding it. That said, it's working on my HD7 with stock Mango retail ROM. The process requires rolling back to pre-Mango but it's possible to interop-unlock an HTC phone as long as you are dev-unlocked and have the HTC Connection Setup app installed.
there is a version 1.4 but its really buggy on my Focus. Inter-op unlocked.
It launches and if i go fast enough i can get it to stay open in the Accent changer.
I've been able to deploy this to my phone using the Windows application deployment tool, but it doesn't appear on my app list afterwards. Am interop unlocked.
Cheers
This is because is is installed in settings, not in app list
I would really love to use a WP7 as my main phone. However I have 2 deal-making requirements:
1) Bluetooth DUN profile
I have a Mercedes Comand Online in my car which requires Bluetooth DUN capability, From what I've seen, even the Mango update won't address this? I assume there can't be any 3rd party apps available due to lack of APIs?
Even the Blackberry supports this functionality.
2) Wifi Tethering
For me, it is staggering how the WP7 doesn't support this and I haven't read anywhere in the Mango updates that WP7 will support wireless tethering. Again, is there any possibility that this will be possible?
Android and IOS allow these functionalities via jailbroken or unlocked software. For me, if WP7 is serious about making headway into the market, Microsoft need to cater for gaps in the market.
2) Wifi Tethering
Actually this will be available in Mango but as a hidden feature , Soon we will know how to enable it.
The first one is up to MS to make as nothing can be done to change any core functionality of this OS
Thanks, Wifi tethering sounds promising. Particularly if you can use it in stealth to stop carriers from charging you extra for tethering.
You can do this on IOS with Mi-wi or PDAnet.
As for the bluetooth issue, I just hope Microsoft get their act together but it doesn't sound like it will happen anytime soon! Do you know if Bluetooth PAN is / will be supported?
2) Wifi Tethering
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Yes, it's included into MANGO update.
But it need proper drivers with internal support;
HTC WP7F doesn't have such drivers for now.
It seems they built in such kind of support inside driver in HTC WP7S (Omega, Entitle) but there also used new BCM4330 seems. So it's not very backward compatible with BCM4329.
1) Bluetooth DUN profile
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There also some drivers was added in MANGO, but they are unused seems for now.
Worth noting that Bluetooth access is probably possible using native DLLs. The APIs are still there, and if you have a WinCE dev kit you can code against them.
Currently we can't use homebrew native DLLs in Mango, but Heathclif74 says he's got a way to fix that. This would mean you could run any code you wanted to, even in Mango.
I think you should add this app into settings (I'm going to do it myself later, but maybe it would be nice feature for everyone? )
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Wrong thread. Damn. It was intended for your multitask toggle app, GoodDayToDie
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Hello I'm new to Windows Phone 7 (was into the whole jailbreaking on iPhone before) but before I try the whole unlocking thing I want to know a few things:
Is it possible to install and use Advanced Config to change accent colors etc on my HTC Titan.
Secondly is it possible to use this whole unlocking thing to install for example Samsung or Nokia exclusive apps on my HTC Titan.
If either of these two are possible I'd like to unlock with Chevronlabs (already paid for it), if not, then I don't see any reason to unlock or whatever.
Also how do I proceed after that. I mean I looked into the hacking en developing board but I don't understand any of it. With all those different Mango versions and different device requirements etc. It was all way easier with the iPhone/iPad.
Device model: HTC Titan X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5
OS: 7.10.7720.68
Hello,
acutally you can only unlock the phone using developer unlock (official or chevron) to sideload XAPs files. However on Mango it is not possible to install XAPs requiring the INTEROP capability (such as registry editors or, unfortunately, Advanced Config).
You will have to wait for a INTEROP-UNLOCK for HTC to install that program since the only way to do this is to downgrade to NoDo and hack it, which I think is not possible on HTC Radar since it comes with Mango preinstalled.
EDIT: For Nokia or Samsung apps I do not know but I hope for Nokia ones .
Thanks. So no reason to unlock yet Really hoped for Advanced Config too bad.
Oh, there are some good homebrew apps that don't need ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES.
Webserver: Easy way to transfer files between computers; don't even need a USB cable just wifi and a web browser which are pretty much everywhere.
Screen capture: Sometimes it's useful to be able to make screenshots, to show something off or explain something more clearly.
Folders: Categorize and group your apps. It's basically custom "hubs" of apps, except the tiles can deep-link as well.
There are a few more, those are just the ones that come to mind. If you've got any coding and/or security skills, feel free to start taking apart the ROM dumps or HTC apps and trying to find a way to interop-unlock them. I'm sure there's a way; we still have a ton to learn about this OS. Three months or so back, we didn't think it was possible to run native code at all without interop-unlock.
GoodDayToDie said:
Screen capture: Sometimes it's useful to be able to make screenshots, to show something off or explain something more clearly.
Folders: Categorize and group your apps. It's basically custom "hubs" of apps, except the tiles can deep-link as well.
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Sounds interesting. I'll give it a try then anyway thanks.
Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
64GUNSHIP said:
Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Yeah... I want to say you're unfortunately screwed :-\.
To make matters worse, the Wireless manager no longer appears to work for configuring MMS when carrier unlocked. I guess I'll just go back my Quantum's for hacking and hard reset this device ..ill wait a while though.
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Do you have *any* homebrew apps that
A) you can still run
B) you marked as Trusted in WP7 Root Tools?
It sounds like what happened is that your phone reverted from interop-unlock to simple dev-unlock (you presumably have an AppHub account?). However, this does *not* revert root-unlock as applied by WP7 Root Tools. Root Tools itself requires ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVCES, and as such can't be run without interop-unlock. However, the apps that it has marked as Trusted will continue to run with full permissions (root unlock).
So, here's what you do.
First, identify an app that you can run (i.e. that isn't interop) and that is marked as Trusted.
Second, take the GUID of that app, and use that GUID to replace the ProductId of the Tango-update-workaround app (which essentially just restores interop-unlock).
Third, remove homebrew apps from your phone (but not the target app, the trusted one you can still run) until you are able to deploy an app (usually, this means reduce to 9 homebrew apps).
Fourth, use a XAP deployer that supports updating, and do an update-install of the workaround app (upgrade, because it's using the GUID of the already-installed target).
Fifth, run the workaround app, and then re-install your normal apps.
I did as you instructed, however I still have the 10 sideload limit and am unable to deploy any interop services.By tango workaround app, you meant relockprevent, correct?
Is there something I may have missed?
Like I said, I installed the Samsung LE2 update for the Focus S which is basically the KK2 equivalent, so provxml will no longer work.
Also, I do not have an apphub account.
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
64GUNSHIP said:
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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snickler said:
Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
dazza9075 said:
isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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Yeah I gave the suggestion to him in the Cab Sender thread to try and look on here for the Diag v 0109 or even 0210. That's the version that I have. Actually in the Cab Sender thread, I posted the cab file to the samsung firmware for Mango that should have that diagnostics version in the cab. You may be able to push that to your device
The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
64GUNSHIP said:
The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
Ive been asking around and doing some research and as of today your stuck, sorry!
I did some poking around on DFTs website as well and there is absolutely ZERO work being done on it, mostly because it seems like the focus S is an AT&T only phone, there just isnt a pressing needed to do anything, plus most folk dont have a focus S to work with.
i dont know what it would take to get some help or even guidance on getting the bootloader replaced but at the moment, until another method is found, thats all there is.
Tho This might be interesting to look in to but DONT DO IT!
did i read somewhere else you dont have a preupdated backup or was it that the backup didnt work?
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
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There is a lot of changes in those updates, if we could insert our own certificate to allow us to build our own signed cabs we could probably work it out, but alas we can only add a cert in to a custom ROM then flash it...
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
64GUNSHIP said:
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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so you updated to the LE2 samsung update, was that via zune? (the last update it does in a row 3rd or 4th perhaps!) or did you cab send that as well?
if you went via zune then it does a backup as well, settings>update>restore
It was all done through the cab sender. There is no backup.
Just wanted to mention here... you know that CAB Sender is perfectly capable of making backups, right? It's one of the core operations the tool is capable of. Don't blame CAB Sender for you pressing S instead of B.
I just don't want people getting the impression that "through the cab sender" implies "there is no backup."
Fully aware, thank you.
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Hello guys!
Got my device on the 8773 and did the samsung update...
Is there anyway to get my interop back ?
I have my backups (one the last 8773 without samsung update and the other is 7740 without anything =] )
Thanks a lot.
Restore your backup, do a little bit more reading on the subject of Tango with Interop Unlock, install the prevention app and mark it as trusted, and have at it. (Specifically, Tango will reset the "prevent relock" registry values, so you have to avoid the phone connecting to Microsoft until you have cleared them again).
I tried to install gun bros this morning and halfway thru the installation it freezes
After reseting the phone, i cannot access the following
Zune
Marketplace
Settings (barely) --> cannot go into factory reset
xbox live
Camera (barely - take a photo and it gets stuck)
Internet (barely - cant access favorite)
ALL THIRD PARTY APPS ==> CANNOT ACCESS
The following still works
People
Picture
Messaging
methods tried
1. Sync with pc - see if it automatically fixes = no
- cannot sync media
- cannot access backup
- shows the following error message when syncing
http://www.zune.net/en-AU/support/w...help_originalid=C00D124D&webhelp_locale=en-AU
2. Switched battery, took out the sim card
I am not updated to Tango yet.
Is there anyway other than hard reset this phone? T_T
Does anyone know if you factory reset a phone, can it still go back to using the old backups?
Yes, you can still restore from backups after a hard reset. I've done it a few times on a couple of different handsets.
What model of phone is it?
Have you installed your own SD card in it (replacing the built-in one or adding your own, depending on model)?
Have you been messing with it in any hacky way (for example, do you have WP7 Root Tools installed, or have you flashed a custom ROM)?
Mozart 7 - chevron unlocked
No custom sd or rom
I ended up resetting it and return to my old backup. But now I don't have tether update anymore from HTC and the only update I keep receiving is tango... And I don't want to update to tango because I will lose my chevron unlock!
The frustration sigh..
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Do you mean ChevronWP7 Labs unlock, or the original Chevron Unlocker hack? If you've managed to carry the unlock hack forward this far (i.e. to Mango), you must have already interop-unlocked your phone. In that case, your best bet is to use WP7 Root Tools and follow the instructions on WindowsPhoneHacker about how to upgrade to Tango without your phone connecting to Microsoft to validate its unlock status. Even if you don't have WP7 Root Tools installed right now, your firmware version may now be compatible after you restored that backup.
If you have a Chevron Labs unlock, then you also now have a free AppHub account for official developer unlock, and that will give you the same amount of unlock access as Chevron Labs unlock does.
Lol I'm on chevron original unlock! Carried till latest mango with no interop unlock! I know that after 1 of the HTC update I couldn't use the registry editor anymore.
My current problem is that I restored to a backup without tethering, and I can't get that update anymore because I keep receiving the tango update instead
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All of the published ways to carry your original Chevron unlock forward to Mango also included interop-unlock (which is just the removal of the app sideloading limit), although you may not have known that.
I repeat, what firmware version are you on right now? Also, even if it doesn't *work*, can you at least launch the registry editor app? The answer to the first question will tell me how many HTC updates you have currently (and therefore what hacks can be used). The answer to the second will tell me whether or not you are, in fact, interop-unlocked (if you can launch apps like Registry Editor at all, regardless of whether they work, you're interop-unlocked).
Um ur actually talking to the same person on the mango interop unlock thread... Lol
OS version:
7.10.8107.79
Firmware revision number
2250.21.50001.707
Radio software version
5.69.09.05a_22.50.50.21U
Bootloader version
5.12.2250.5(139188
U pointed out it is 50001 already so it should be v2
But I replied that I have never applied the interop hack and I DO have access to registry editor still right now
Thank you for your responses, hopefully I'm not confusing u too much.
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The hack to carry your Chevron unlock forward to Mango *is* an interop unlock. There's many ways to apply the hack; the one you're probably thinking of is special only because it works for people who are already on Mango and didn't prepare their phones in any way beforehand.
That said, your firmware version is too high, as you say. If you don't downgrade that somehow, you won't be able to install WP7 Root Tools and therefore will lose your hacked unlock when you upgrade to Mango.