Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
64GUNSHIP said:
Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Yeah... I want to say you're unfortunately screwed :-\.
To make matters worse, the Wireless manager no longer appears to work for configuring MMS when carrier unlocked. I guess I'll just go back my Quantum's for hacking and hard reset this device ..ill wait a while though.
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Do you have *any* homebrew apps that
A) you can still run
B) you marked as Trusted in WP7 Root Tools?
It sounds like what happened is that your phone reverted from interop-unlock to simple dev-unlock (you presumably have an AppHub account?). However, this does *not* revert root-unlock as applied by WP7 Root Tools. Root Tools itself requires ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVCES, and as such can't be run without interop-unlock. However, the apps that it has marked as Trusted will continue to run with full permissions (root unlock).
So, here's what you do.
First, identify an app that you can run (i.e. that isn't interop) and that is marked as Trusted.
Second, take the GUID of that app, and use that GUID to replace the ProductId of the Tango-update-workaround app (which essentially just restores interop-unlock).
Third, remove homebrew apps from your phone (but not the target app, the trusted one you can still run) until you are able to deploy an app (usually, this means reduce to 9 homebrew apps).
Fourth, use a XAP deployer that supports updating, and do an update-install of the workaround app (upgrade, because it's using the GUID of the already-installed target).
Fifth, run the workaround app, and then re-install your normal apps.
I did as you instructed, however I still have the 10 sideload limit and am unable to deploy any interop services.By tango workaround app, you meant relockprevent, correct?
Is there something I may have missed?
Like I said, I installed the Samsung LE2 update for the Focus S which is basically the KK2 equivalent, so provxml will no longer work.
Also, I do not have an apphub account.
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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Yeah I gave the suggestion to him in the Cab Sender thread to try and look on here for the Diag v 0109 or even 0210. That's the version that I have. Actually in the Cab Sender thread, I posted the cab file to the samsung firmware for Mango that should have that diagnostics version in the cab. You may be able to push that to your device
The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
Ive been asking around and doing some research and as of today your stuck, sorry!
I did some poking around on DFTs website as well and there is absolutely ZERO work being done on it, mostly because it seems like the focus S is an AT&T only phone, there just isnt a pressing needed to do anything, plus most folk dont have a focus S to work with.
i dont know what it would take to get some help or even guidance on getting the bootloader replaced but at the moment, until another method is found, thats all there is.
Tho This might be interesting to look in to but DONT DO IT!
did i read somewhere else you dont have a preupdated backup or was it that the backup didnt work?
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
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There is a lot of changes in those updates, if we could insert our own certificate to allow us to build our own signed cabs we could probably work it out, but alas we can only add a cert in to a custom ROM then flash it...
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
64GUNSHIP said:
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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so you updated to the LE2 samsung update, was that via zune? (the last update it does in a row 3rd or 4th perhaps!) or did you cab send that as well?
if you went via zune then it does a backup as well, settings>update>restore
It was all done through the cab sender. There is no backup.
Just wanted to mention here... you know that CAB Sender is perfectly capable of making backups, right? It's one of the core operations the tool is capable of. Don't blame CAB Sender for you pressing S instead of B.
I just don't want people getting the impression that "through the cab sender" implies "there is no backup."
Fully aware, thank you.
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Hello guys!
Got my device on the 8773 and did the samsung update...
Is there anyway to get my interop back ?
I have my backups (one the last 8773 without samsung update and the other is 7740 without anything =] )
Thanks a lot.
Restore your backup, do a little bit more reading on the subject of Tango with Interop Unlock, install the prevention app and mark it as trusted, and have at it. (Specifically, Tango will reset the "prevent relock" registry values, so you have to avoid the phone connecting to Microsoft until you have cleared them again).
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Oh nohs...
Today i updated my phone with the new security update from zune.
from: v7.0.7000.8 to v7.0.7392.0
and now i cant unlock my phone anymore?!?!??!
FIX MS the chevronwp7 Hack??????
oh nos.... :/
why i updated my phone ((((
hope anybody can help me???
if i want to update i became the notice:
Sorry, I'm having trouble communicationg with the phone.
-Please make sure it's connected using USB
-Please start the Zune application
but it worked nice after the update....?
NEEED HELP! and have any other the same problem???
big thx
Yeah just flash your ROM there are some posts about that in here, but be carefull and chose the right ROM for the right device PS i have not test this but i belive its safe as long you know what your doing by reading every step. i hope that this will help you out
MS fixed the hole that the ChevronWP7 unlocker was using in the NoDo update (7390). You seem to have skipped NoDo and gone straight to the minor security update (7392) but updates are cumulative, so you will have gotten the Chevron hole closed too.
There are a few options here, though.
1) Get an official unlock. If you're a student with a .edu email address, this is free (through Dreamspark, I think). Otherwise, it costs $99. http://create.msdn.com has more info.
2) Restore your phone to 7008 using the Zune software (Settings -> Device -> Update). Then unlock using Chevron, and apply the hacks to prevent it from re-locking. Then re-update.
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
We need another method
What we need, especially those of us running Windows XP on disk space restricted PC's, with a Samsung Focus, is a method to unlock that does not require the installation and use of that disk hog Windows Phone Developers Tools. There must be another method that does not require this full install, but possible just some of the connectivity files. Wish someone would come up with it. I have no interest in stealing apps or anything like that. I would just like to be able to load custom ringtones and make some registry changes. Such a simple thing that has proven to be a nightmare using Windows XP.
@JamesAllen:
*WHY* would you run a 10-year-old OS, on a computer with such a restricted disk space that the tools are a burden (agreed they're large, but hard drives are about $0.04 USD / GB right now), and then want to hack on a cutting-edge smartphone OS?
Working to provide a low-footprint, downlevel-OS-compatible tool yourself is great, and I'm sure some people would love to have it. If you want somebody else to do it, though, you may get a better response if you provide a better reason than "my computer is so out-of-date that I could get a 3x better one for less than the cost of my new smartphone."
Oh, and for the record, I'm pretty sure the Developer Registration tool (used for official unlock) and its dependencies, including Zune, comes to less than 200 MB (the Zune install folder is <80 MB).
gore23 said:
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
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What phone do you have?
Just wondering if anyone ran into this issue. I've been playing bug village for a little while now, Avoiding paying for coins, I would set a few tasks a day for the bugs and check back to make sure they are fed.
For a few days in the game, I started getting black screens but, it came back and worked. Yesterday, it just stop totaly working, it loads to a black screen then exits. I can not enter the game any more and I am afraid of losing my place at level 15.
Does anyone know a fix for this or a way I can really backup this game, so I can uninstall it and not lose my place ???
Thanks for any advice !!!
There was an update releases yesterday. Did you update?
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Yea try updating it, either by waiting for the notification or by going to the game and hit update.
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There was an update releases yesterday. Did you update?
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Yea, I ran the update and still the same problem
My Ants have not eaten in days, someone help !
Why did this happen ? Others have claimed this issue but, no result.
Does anyone know a fool proof way to backup/restore my save data so I can attempt to uninstall/reinstall ?
Depends on your phone model and firmware version. For Samsung or certain older HTC firmware, it's possible to back up the data.
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Depends on your phone model and firmware version. For Samsung or certain older HTC firmware, it's possible to back up the data.
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Verizon HTC Trophy running 8107 (newest build)....Does that mean no ?
I said firmware, not OS build, but probably.
Are you able to interop-unlock your phone?
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I said firmware, not OS build, but probably.
Are you able to interop-unlock your phone?
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Yes, my phone is interop-unlocked. I am not fully unlocked due to having a CDMA based phone (no one really lets us play) and no one supports a full unlock on my phone
There are two apps you can try: TouchXplorer (on http://touchxperience.com) and HtcRoot Webserver (see my sig). Both can access the filesystem of HTC phones and let you move or back up files (backup is a little tricky with TouchXplorer but it can be done). You can also try using DiagProvXML if you know the path to the data you want to move/copy/whatever (it'll be under \Applications\Data\<GUID_OF_APP>\Data\IsolatedStore)
These apps use a variety of different hacks to access or modify the filesystem (provxml is currently write-only). Without knowing your firmware version, I can't tell you which ones will or will not work. Give it a shot, though...
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There are two apps you can try: TouchXplorer (on http://touchxperience.com) and HtcRoot Webserver (see my sig). Both can access the filesystem of HTC phones and let you move or back up files (backup is a little tricky with TouchXplorer but it can be done). You can also try using DiagProvXML if you know the path to the data you want to move/copy/whatever (it'll be under \Applications\Data\<GUID_OF_APP>\Data\IsolatedStore)
These apps use a variety of different hacks to access or modify the filesystem (provxml is currently write-only). Without knowing your firmware version, I can't tell you which ones will or will not work. Give it a shot, though...
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Thanks for your help. TouchXplorer stopped working after Mango, it stopped working on Interop unlocked but, still works on Fully unlocked devices, as far as I know. I have it installed, it loads but, does not do anything beyond that, the Dev closed the discussion due to it not working any more.
I looked over your Webserver, I'm not a programmer so it's out of my skilset to make it into a installable file.
and sad to say, with 8107 firmware Connection Setup no longer works (error "Carrier not in Database"), so proXML is out too...
I am running stock Firmware, 2305.13.20110.605
Any other thoughts ?
Um, there's pre-compiled XAPs of the webserver attached to the thread...?
Mind you, if TouchXplorer isn't working for you, then HtcRoot won't either.
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Um, there's pre-compiled XAPs of the webserver attached to the thread...?
Mind you, if TouchXplorer isn't working for you, then HtcRoot won't either.
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I wish there was a way to get TouchXplorer working, but, I didnt notice any pre-compiled ones in the thread, I'll try that.
Any other way ?
Look on the webserver thread, not the HtcRoot thread (there's a precompiled XAP on there too, but it's just a test app; doesn't *do* anything except check compatibility).
I've pretty much outlined all the viable options for you already. If none of them work, then... hope there's a fix released soon, or a better backup option? I don't know, I've never played the game, it sounds awfully Farmville-esque, so maybe waiting that long isn't an option...
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Look on the webserver thread, not the HtcRoot thread (there's a precompiled XAP on there too, but it's just a test app; doesn't *do* anything except check compatibility).
I've pretty much outlined all the viable options for you already. If none of them work, then... hope there's a fix released soon, or a better backup option? I don't know, I've never played the game, it sounds awfully Farmville-esque, so maybe waiting that long isn't an option...
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I tried your webserver.... but, browsing the device just gives me a "System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x8007001F): A device attached to the system is not functioning. "
I saw a post by you saying it's not compatable (someone else had the same error)..
That is pretty cool tho (a web server on my phone, very cool)... I wish I could get my HTC Trophy fully unlocked so I can play with these cool tools....
The game was fun, kind of like you said, Farmville-esque, but, instead of spending real cash, you can just time go by, it was fun and I would play it one or 2 times a day to get my ants working and build up acorns (money in the game). After playing it 2 weeks, every day, 2-3 times a day, it died before I could get all the achivements. I just wanted to finsih the game..
I want to thank you for trying to help, I know there is only so much that is possable with my phone now but, thanks for trying
Even I have d same problem on my HTC radar and d black screen blocks d vision but d icons R visible & if I drop some food then the house did is visible otherwise only small areas are visible what to do
This happened to my Titan once, a reboot fixed it.
Phil_123 said:
This happened to my Titan once, a reboot fixed it.
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I have rebooted, Pulled the battery and everything else I could think of, It still does not work.
@DavidinCT: Off-topic, but there's a version of the WebServer (which my project was actually built on) that does not use HtcRoot or even interop-unlock. Aside from its own data folder though, the only place it can access is read-only for \Windows.
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@DavidinCT: Off-topic, but there's a version of the WebServer (which my project was actually built on) that does not use HtcRoot or even interop-unlock. Aside from its own data folder though, the only place it can access is read-only for \Windows.
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Interesting, I'll have to check it for the coolness factor. It does not help on my quest tho
On the subject of Bug Village, I am not the only one with this issue, if you look over the reviews in the marketplace, there is ton more with the same issue. I guess I can hold tight for an update, I guess...
Yeah, if it's a common issue, there are good odds the developer will fix it. If they don't, they won't get any more money from it...
On Focus we're getting the Diagnosis 1.9.0.0 update.
Any other Samsung phones getting the update from Marketplace?
I'm wondering if this is another way of delivering the KK2...
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EnderPsp said:
On Focus we're getting the Diagnosis 1.9.0.0 update.
Any other Samsung phones getting the update from Marketplace?
I'm wondering if this is another way of delivering the KK2...
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I am wondering if changes made with a previous version will be retained after the update? Also, will there be access to all of the fields that were available in previous versions?
Ok, time to address some common misunderstandings:
Is this another way to get KK2?
No, that's quite literally impossible. Neither a running app, nor the app installer, can modify the ROM. KK2 is a firmware update, which is part of the ROM. The ROM can't be updated while the OS is running.
Is this going to revert existing changes?
No, that's incredibly unlikely. Hypothetically, it could make some specific changes, some of which (like setting MaxUnsignedApp to 10) might be bad... unless you're on a student account and you MaxUnsignedApp is supposed to be 3 (or something else similar). There's no way to just "revert" the changes though, short of forcibly hard-resetting your phone.
Is it going to break existing apps?
No. Interop apps rely on OEM drivers, which are in the firmware. As mentioned before, an app (or app update) is completely incapable of modifying this.
Is this going to break the ability to use WindowBreak and similar hacks in the future?
It's possible that it will, yes. All that would be required is to remove the user interface for sending provisiioning files to the driver. However, it's more likely that they will rely on the KK2 update to do that... although it's no guarantee.
since today i also have a notification on my omnia7 with v1.9.0.0.
not updated yet.
Propagating the info from Focus thread (thanks ZeBond):
The new Samsung Diagnostics app attempts to block GPRS profile switching (provisioning)
Works for me
I was already interop and WP7 Token unlocked, upgraded to 8107 by cab sender method, upgraded to current Diagnosis and *#9908# works for me and I can still sideload xaps.
The update showed up for me a few days ago but I haven't updated it yet.
Strange
I received the update on my Focus S (dev unlocked) and installed it. If I go into the diagnosis and put in #*9908# it closes the app... deleting it and and putting ##634# installs the old version. Ideas??
Yeah, don't install that update! Samsun have decided to remove that mode from the app. However, the original XAP (the one intalled via the dialer) is actually baked into the ROM of the phone, so removing the Marketplace-updated version and reinstalling the in-ROM xap gets you the un-updated version of the app...
Is it safe to download Camera extras to my omnia 7?
Or does it needs a tweak for my phone?
edit: tried to deploy via pc. but does nowhere show up
edit2: ok it does. but it says its not compatible and i need an update.
so who makes a tweak for the app?
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Is it safe to download Camera extras to my omnia 7?
Or does it needs a tweak for my phone?
edit: tried to deploy via pc. but does nowhere show up
edit2: ok it does. but it says its not compatible and i need an update.
so who makes a tweak for the app?
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+1 Same here... "ok it does. but it says its not compatible and i need an update.
so who makes a tweak for the app?"
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Is it safe to download Camera extras to my omnia 7?
Or does it needs a tweak for my phone?
edit: tried to deploy via pc. but does nowhere show up
edit2: ok it does. but it says its not compatible and i need an update.
so who makes a tweak for the app?
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camera extras requires tango i believe. Plus there is a good chance it will not work on non-nokia devices
I have tried it on my HTC Trophy running Tango, I still get the 'needs updating' message.
Hopefully someone will be able to bypass this soon
I'm running ceesheim's ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1571068 (v3.4 though) and managed to sideload it on.
It installed fine and stuff but I don't get all the extra features....well....it gives me an option to change the camera output to 8megapixels which isn't obviously true.
But it doesn't give me any of the other goodies :crying:
bump
I've managed to get it installed on my omnia 7 (currently on mango) and found out that by changing the device name and oem in the registry editor to "NOKIA Lumia 900" the "update" message disappeared, so I guess this doesn't need tango to be running. Perhaps we need nokia dll's :\ Or some other tweak...
For me the app works without changing something....but we need the dll to run the app properly
but I have no extra options in my camera-settings
First of all, there's almost no chance of this working on non-Nokia stock firmware. It will rely on software components that other firmwares won't have, and that non-fully-unlocked ROMs won't be able to install and use.
Second, for people like @slipnarf: Revert that change to the DeviceTargetingInfo registry values *immediately*, or you will probably brake the Marketplace DRM and your phone will be unable to either install or run Marketplace apps. This break appears to take a day or two, but is irreversible except by reverting a backup or doing a hard-reset once it occurs. (This warning should be present in every thread that talks about those registry values, but for some reason people continue to muck with DeviceTargetingInfo and mess up their phones.)
Go to Omnia7 Dev section, mirolg has cooked a fully unlocked ROM which contains the Nokia DLL's and therefore the camera extras.
hi
please can anyone upload the dll-files for nokia camera extras!!??
i don't can find them in forum or with help of google..
thanks a lot!!
in the deepshining rom are the nokia camera extras work fine, but i don't want to flash my device again for this features..
I can't update my phone after installing the 7.10.7740 back in november 2011. Zune tells me my phone is up to date, but i know two other updates were released in 2012 including Tango. I also seem to have the IE tabs problem described earlier in the forum. What could be the problem? Any solutions? Thanks in advance.
BTW it's an unlocked T-Mobile Omnia 7 8GB
What method did you use to update? Have you ever done anything to "force" an update in any way? Some of those break future updatability of the phone. Also, have you ever messed with the DeviceTargetingInfo registry key? The values there control updating, and messing with them can (among other unpleasant things) break it.
There's a tool that can send the CAB updates directly to your phone, along with a list of the CAB files for download and info on how to use the tool, available on teh Dev&Hacking sub-forum. Be cautious if using this (make backups for sure) but it works for situations where there's no official update available.
I updated via Zune and never tweaked the registry. Could a hard reset help before trying custom ROMs?
If you inadvvertently applied any hacks, a hard reset will clear them. However, if you want to avoid losing data, you can certainly use the CAB sender to install updates directly. Just be sure you follow the instructions regarding language packs and such!
Well, I tried the hard reset and that got rid of the IE tabs problem. Oddly enough, battery life seems improved. Still not getting the updates, though. I guess I'll have to upload the CABs, but can I go straight from 7740 to Tango? Or do I have to flash updates in chronological order?
Better to update them in order. also be careful to install all the necessary language packs. Plus, there is some update for Omnia that locks the phone. Be careful of that too.