On Focus we're getting the Diagnosis 1.9.0.0 update.
Any other Samsung phones getting the update from Marketplace?
I'm wondering if this is another way of delivering the KK2...
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EnderPsp said:
On Focus we're getting the Diagnosis 1.9.0.0 update.
Any other Samsung phones getting the update from Marketplace?
I'm wondering if this is another way of delivering the KK2...
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I am wondering if changes made with a previous version will be retained after the update? Also, will there be access to all of the fields that were available in previous versions?
Ok, time to address some common misunderstandings:
Is this another way to get KK2?
No, that's quite literally impossible. Neither a running app, nor the app installer, can modify the ROM. KK2 is a firmware update, which is part of the ROM. The ROM can't be updated while the OS is running.
Is this going to revert existing changes?
No, that's incredibly unlikely. Hypothetically, it could make some specific changes, some of which (like setting MaxUnsignedApp to 10) might be bad... unless you're on a student account and you MaxUnsignedApp is supposed to be 3 (or something else similar). There's no way to just "revert" the changes though, short of forcibly hard-resetting your phone.
Is it going to break existing apps?
No. Interop apps rely on OEM drivers, which are in the firmware. As mentioned before, an app (or app update) is completely incapable of modifying this.
Is this going to break the ability to use WindowBreak and similar hacks in the future?
It's possible that it will, yes. All that would be required is to remove the user interface for sending provisiioning files to the driver. However, it's more likely that they will rely on the KK2 update to do that... although it's no guarantee.
since today i also have a notification on my omnia7 with v1.9.0.0.
not updated yet.
Propagating the info from Focus thread (thanks ZeBond):
The new Samsung Diagnostics app attempts to block GPRS profile switching (provisioning)
Works for me
I was already interop and WP7 Token unlocked, upgraded to 8107 by cab sender method, upgraded to current Diagnosis and *#9908# works for me and I can still sideload xaps.
The update showed up for me a few days ago but I haven't updated it yet.
Strange
I received the update on my Focus S (dev unlocked) and installed it. If I go into the diagnosis and put in #*9908# it closes the app... deleting it and and putting ##634# installs the old version. Ideas??
Yeah, don't install that update! Samsun have decided to remove that mode from the app. However, the original XAP (the one intalled via the dialer) is actually baked into the ROM of the phone, so removing the Marketplace-updated version and reinstalling the in-ROM xap gets you the un-updated version of the app...
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Hi, out there!
Short question:
At the moment, I've got a HTC 7 PRO 7675 with Mango and Interop Unlock.
I haven't installed any updates (like the HTC-Updates) since Mango itself.
Could I face any Problems, when updating to the latest version (like loosing the Chevron- or Interop-Unlock)? - Or, if not, could this happen in the future?
Thanks for the answers!
Tesseract83233
The current updates will not remove interop-unlock, though that could happen in the future (for example, the Mango update reset your phone's unlock status, even if you had a legit developer-unlock).
However, they cripple the drivers that are used to interop-unlock the phone (the current IU app won't work on current HTC firmware) and, since those drivers are also used by most HTC-compatible homebrew that needs interop-unlock, it cripples those apps too. You'll lose the ability to use TouchXplorer (and other apps using HtcFileUtility), MultiTaskToggle (and other apps using HtcRegUtility), DiagProvXML and Advanced Config (and other apps using HtcProvisionDrv), and the HtcRoot project (and anything else using HtcUtility).
I am currently working on a way (using HtcUtility, which means it already won't work on updated phones unless they roll back) to create an unlock that persists through updates. It's slow going, though - the policy system (which control WP7 access security) is quite opaque and undocumented.
I am not sure how to unbrand my ATT Samsung focus so it can be an open market device and can recieve updates as they come?
Not sure what you mean by open market device?, but i do have a xap that will allow you to unbrand it and also rebrand it. By unbranding it does not allow you to see more in the market if that what your thought may have been?
If you are looking for a way to get to diff device market app then go over to here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393265
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Unbranding allows you to receive updates (you know, like the OP said... the things that come over Zune) as soon as they are available. Some mobile operators don't release the updates on time, so you might have to wait weeks or (on occasion) months.
It's somewhat dangerous, though - if your phone is a mixture of branded and unbraded ROM components (some from stock, some from updates), it's in an untested state and there may be problems. If you re-brand after installing the update, you may later get an MO-specific update to bring your phone back onto the official update path... or you might not.
Also, if you want to force updates, there's another method that may work better: sending update CABs rather than doing the updates through Zune.
Yes i can understand the part ( and can receive updates ) just didnt know what he meant by " open market device " thanks for the clarity of the OP
"Open market" is a term used to describe phones which are sold un-branded and not SIM-locked. They're relatively rare in the US, but are the rule, not the exception, in most of the world. Open market phones are not customized for their carrier, so they may lack certain useful carrier-specific features. However, they also lack carrier mandated modifictions that may lower the quality of the OS (for example, AT&T removing the 2G/3G toggle option from their stock ROMs).
According to the guys at the Microsoft store, the Lumia 800 is only being sold open-market in the US, for example.
Ahh, i see said the blind man! Learn a little some new everyday.
unbrand
according your question,that's easy to done...
you have two choices to update the new version of OS,change to the phone registry or reture to 7004 version when your phone is running 7720,then flash the custom rom from dft(dark forces team),and your phone can update to 8107 or higher version of WP7.5 easily.
Hello,
back in September when I updated to Mango, i was able to change settings for podcasts I subscribed to via the phone itself. This included that the phone would automatically download new episodes via Wifi without the need of the Zune Software. (see the top section of this site: http://www.wingadgetnews.com/subscribe-podcasts-windows-phone-7/ )
I am now running version 7.10.8773.98 on my phone (Custom Nextgen+ ROM) and this setting has gone missing. Did Microsoft remove this option in later versions of Windows Phone? Is there some way I can get it back? I do not want to have to boot my PC and start the Zune software to sync my podcasts, I want my phone to do this on it's own like it used to to back in October.
So, I figured this out a while ago through intensive searching and trial, but I figured I post the sollution in this thread for future reference.
all that is needed is a registry change in
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Zune\Settings
here you'll find a registry entry called "XuidLocale". For me, the value was DE-DE as I live in germany. I changed this to us-EN and the podcast settings came back.
After I reboot my phone, the value changes back to DE-DE, but the podcast settings are still accessible, so that's a good thing
I just upgraded to Tango 7.10.8773.98 (legit) as well as the .12220 firmware for my Lumia 800, and I seem to have lost these features as well. I tried searching for a solution here on the forums and this seemed to be the most relevant and helpful.
However, I can find neither the settings folder nor "XuidLocale" when going through my registries. Any help would be appreciated...
Edit: Or is this fix only for rooted/unlocked phones?
I've just upgraded to Tango and lost the ability to manage podcasts from the handset too. I thought this was a feature of low-end handsets, not my Lumia. As this is one of my primary uses of my phone it could be enough to drive me back to Android and Jellybean.
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I just upgraded to Tango 7.10.8773.98 (legit) as well as the .12220 firmware for my Lumia 800, and I seem to have lost these features as well. I tried searching for a solution here on the forums and this seemed to be the most relevant and helpful.
However, I can find neither the settings folder nor "XuidLocale" when going through my registries. Any help would be appreciated...
Edit: Or is this fix only for rooted/unlocked phones?
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you need to be at least interop unlocked, I think.
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you need to be at least interop unlocked, I think.
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Yeah, makes sense. I misinterpreted OP's post.
Has anyone (non-US) retained their podcast settings after updating to Tango? Perhaps particularly someone from Sweden with a Lumia device? I got the advice to simply just master reset the phone and just re-sync everything again, but I don't really want to do so if it won't amount to anything.
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Yeah, makes sense. I misinterpreted OP's post.
Has anyone (non-US) retained their podcast settings after updating to Tango? Perhaps particularly someone from Sweden with a Lumia device? I got the advice to simply just master reset the phone and just re-sync everything again, but I don't really want to do so if it won't amount to anything.
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I wiped when I installed (Zune wouldn't put Tango on so I flashed it using the Nokia care suite - Vodafone UK PAYG version same as my Mango). I have lost my podcast management abilities - I had them in Mango.
Has anyone managed to find the fix for this for non-unlocked devices?
I was able to subscribe to podcasts before on my Lumia 800 but as soon as I installed 12220 the options has gone.
Unfortunately, this happened to me too. Couldn't subscribe to new podcast feeds on the phone (although previously-added feeds still updated). There isn't a registry editor that works with my phone either.
As over-the-air podcast syncing is one of my most-used features, I have reverted back to a pre-Tango backup (using Zune). Everything works fine now, albeit on an older OS version.
Sounds like MS added a region check to Tango to make sure you're in a region that has podcasts in the Zune store before allowing you to manage them on your phone. I hope this gets fixed
I think you are out of luck. Unless MS decides to magically bring these features back, if you don't have the ability to edit the registry, you wont be able to manage podcasts on the device
Sorry.
On Tango it worked for me too.
Now i´m an wp7.8 and there it didn´t work
Any idea?
Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Yeah... I want to say you're unfortunately screwed :-\.
To make matters worse, the Wireless manager no longer appears to work for configuring MMS when carrier unlocked. I guess I'll just go back my Quantum's for hacking and hard reset this device ..ill wait a while though.
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Do you have *any* homebrew apps that
A) you can still run
B) you marked as Trusted in WP7 Root Tools?
It sounds like what happened is that your phone reverted from interop-unlock to simple dev-unlock (you presumably have an AppHub account?). However, this does *not* revert root-unlock as applied by WP7 Root Tools. Root Tools itself requires ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVCES, and as such can't be run without interop-unlock. However, the apps that it has marked as Trusted will continue to run with full permissions (root unlock).
So, here's what you do.
First, identify an app that you can run (i.e. that isn't interop) and that is marked as Trusted.
Second, take the GUID of that app, and use that GUID to replace the ProductId of the Tango-update-workaround app (which essentially just restores interop-unlock).
Third, remove homebrew apps from your phone (but not the target app, the trusted one you can still run) until you are able to deploy an app (usually, this means reduce to 9 homebrew apps).
Fourth, use a XAP deployer that supports updating, and do an update-install of the workaround app (upgrade, because it's using the GUID of the already-installed target).
Fifth, run the workaround app, and then re-install your normal apps.
I did as you instructed, however I still have the 10 sideload limit and am unable to deploy any interop services.By tango workaround app, you meant relockprevent, correct?
Is there something I may have missed?
Like I said, I installed the Samsung LE2 update for the Focus S which is basically the KK2 equivalent, so provxml will no longer work.
Also, I do not have an apphub account.
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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Yeah I gave the suggestion to him in the Cab Sender thread to try and look on here for the Diag v 0109 or even 0210. That's the version that I have. Actually in the Cab Sender thread, I posted the cab file to the samsung firmware for Mango that should have that diagnostics version in the cab. You may be able to push that to your device
The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
Ive been asking around and doing some research and as of today your stuck, sorry!
I did some poking around on DFTs website as well and there is absolutely ZERO work being done on it, mostly because it seems like the focus S is an AT&T only phone, there just isnt a pressing needed to do anything, plus most folk dont have a focus S to work with.
i dont know what it would take to get some help or even guidance on getting the bootloader replaced but at the moment, until another method is found, thats all there is.
Tho This might be interesting to look in to but DONT DO IT!
did i read somewhere else you dont have a preupdated backup or was it that the backup didnt work?
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
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There is a lot of changes in those updates, if we could insert our own certificate to allow us to build our own signed cabs we could probably work it out, but alas we can only add a cert in to a custom ROM then flash it...
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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so you updated to the LE2 samsung update, was that via zune? (the last update it does in a row 3rd or 4th perhaps!) or did you cab send that as well?
if you went via zune then it does a backup as well, settings>update>restore
It was all done through the cab sender. There is no backup.
Just wanted to mention here... you know that CAB Sender is perfectly capable of making backups, right? It's one of the core operations the tool is capable of. Don't blame CAB Sender for you pressing S instead of B.
I just don't want people getting the impression that "through the cab sender" implies "there is no backup."
Fully aware, thank you.
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Hello guys!
Got my device on the 8773 and did the samsung update...
Is there anyway to get my interop back ?
I have my backups (one the last 8773 without samsung update and the other is 7740 without anything =] )
Thanks a lot.
Restore your backup, do a little bit more reading on the subject of Tango with Interop Unlock, install the prevention app and mark it as trusted, and have at it. (Specifically, Tango will reset the "prevent relock" registry values, so you have to avoid the phone connecting to Microsoft until you have cleared them again).
I can't update my phone after installing the 7.10.7740 back in november 2011. Zune tells me my phone is up to date, but i know two other updates were released in 2012 including Tango. I also seem to have the IE tabs problem described earlier in the forum. What could be the problem? Any solutions? Thanks in advance.
BTW it's an unlocked T-Mobile Omnia 7 8GB
What method did you use to update? Have you ever done anything to "force" an update in any way? Some of those break future updatability of the phone. Also, have you ever messed with the DeviceTargetingInfo registry key? The values there control updating, and messing with them can (among other unpleasant things) break it.
There's a tool that can send the CAB updates directly to your phone, along with a list of the CAB files for download and info on how to use the tool, available on teh Dev&Hacking sub-forum. Be cautious if using this (make backups for sure) but it works for situations where there's no official update available.
I updated via Zune and never tweaked the registry. Could a hard reset help before trying custom ROMs?
If you inadvvertently applied any hacks, a hard reset will clear them. However, if you want to avoid losing data, you can certainly use the CAB sender to install updates directly. Just be sure you follow the instructions regarding language packs and such!
Well, I tried the hard reset and that got rid of the IE tabs problem. Oddly enough, battery life seems improved. Still not getting the updates, though. I guess I'll have to upload the CABs, but can I go straight from 7740 to Tango? Or do I have to flash updates in chronological order?
Better to update them in order. also be careful to install all the necessary language packs. Plus, there is some update for Omnia that locks the phone. Be careful of that too.