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New info on Bootloaders (via email reply from HTC)

"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your mobile phone HTC Desire S.
I understand that you wish to know if your phone will get an update to unlock the Bootloader.
We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Currently we don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via through our official website and official social media outlets.
Regarding which phones will be unlocked, currently we don’t have information but keep an eye on our official website and official social media outlets for announcements about which phones will be bootloader unlocked."
Sincerely,
Carola
HTC
So there you have it. HTC is gonna unlock bootloaders on existing phones, but no info is given regarding which phones will be unlocked, and when. Let's just keep our fingers crossed and hope that the Desire S receives an unlock soon. Keep an eye on their FB page people.

Its exactly the same answer that someone already posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14217130&postcount=19

when it comes to getting answers from HTC support (regarding updates, schedules, etc) know that they can't be trusted...
anyone who have waited for hero update knows what i mean

Regarding which phone will be Unlock? If Desire S will never going to be in the list...I'll just sell this and get something else.
Officially, how many HTC Android phone has a locked bootloader?

pure marketing, i believe it when i see it...

Well, they wouldn't lie, i just hope it wont take much time

desire s is kindly new/fresh device, I believe it should get official unlocked bootloader soon =)

S-OFF sensation....

Dear Muhd Fadzil,
Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, we are currently developing new bootloader unlocked software for your phone. HTC is still committed to allowing our customers to unlock the bootloaders if they wish, however we are still implementing the policy and many updates were already finalized prior to our change in policy. We apologize for the inconvenience, but be assured that we are working on a solution for our customers and our commitment has not changed. Please stay tuned to our official channels for ongoing updates on how we will be implementing this policy. Thank you for your patience.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
We look forward to be of service to you again.
HTC
Hotline: 1800-238-7788
Service Hours : 8 am - 8 pm, Monday - Saturday (except Public Holidays)
what i ask them was whether will they void the warranty for s-off or unlocked bootloader and this is what they gave me... lol

That's their way of saying yes without creating a riot. Just wait for it to be released here. The funny thing is, is that most, if not all, rooters will likely avoid htc root and use an xda root. Wouldn't it be funny if no one used htc methods?
Matt

This is exactly the same response every one else gets, when asking any question regarding unlocking the bootloader.
You will draw people in with the mis-leading title, as they will think there is genuine info about HTC's stance on warranty and achieving S-OFF.
Mods please delete/lock. (or at least change the title)

This had been posted many times and if you googled even a segment of the response you would know it was an automated response. See how it had nothing to do with your answer lmao. Although no one really knows for sure, more than likely doing so through their method will leave some type of watermark on your phone our flash in their system. whether or not out it will void ur warranty is unknown. dun dun dun dun dunnnn.....*cues the ominous music*

+1 alexp999
Especially as his message has nothing actually to do with the state of the Warranty, and gives us no information we've not already seen at least 200 times (ish) - if I were any more cynical I'd almost be led to think he'd deliberately titled the post in that way to get the traffic!

I just enquired myself on the live chat, they said yes it would void warranty, but that's to be expected tbh

Shouldn't the warranty cover the hardware still? I mean you can't break the power button by unlocking the bootloader
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bruce2728 said:
Shouldn't the warranty cover the hardware still? I mean you can't break the power button by unlocking the bootloader
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that is why i ask them HTC ... but as most of you guys respond saying those are just automated system and my ans cant be found... to whether unlocked bootloader would void the warranty... sigh... was trying to like help people out here... well certain thing are better to wait... lol... by saying the policy i guess it would be that they are discussing on or about the warranty issues...

itsjoshy said:
I just enquired myself on the live chat, they said yes it would void warranty, but that's to be expected tbh
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Wait a minute, you got a confirmation that it would certainly void the warranty? Did you take screenshots, that would actually be news...

Just because some slack jawed customer service rep says it will void the warranty doesn't mean anything. If it voids the warranty they will have to publish this somewhere in an official announcement to cover their asses. Until someone can show me that, the warranty is in full effect regardless of whether the bootloader is s-off or not.

alexp999 said:
This is exactly the same response every one else gets, when asking any question regarding unlocking the bootloader.
You will draw people in with the mis-leading title, as they will think there is genuine info about HTC's stance on warranty and achieving S-OFF.
Mods please delete/lock. (or at least change the title)
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Yes it did reel me in like an unwitting dunce, change the thread name ffs, your going to get a lot of people coming here hoping for a method to s-off.
As for HTC, they will unlock the bootloader but keep the simlock intact, probably with some other restriction in place too, better to wait for the guys @ alpha rev to release their work, which shouldn't take too long now.
Hopefully.

I get a piece of news,our t-mobile sensation's update is developing but htc even doesn't have a test version,so if alpharev's s-off doesn't support our devices,we have to wait for htc's s-off or alpharev's new version
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Paten said:
Just because some slack jawed customer service rep says it will void the warranty doesn't mean anything. If it voids the warranty they will have to publish this somewhere in an official announcement to cover their asses. Until someone can show me that, the warranty is in full effect regardless of whether the bootloader is s-off or not.
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You surely never expected to keep warranty and an unlocked bootloader? Have you not seen how it is done on the Nexus? There is a disclaimer on the phone before it unlocks it. Id personally use AlphaRev when that come's out and that way you should easily be able to flash back to stock if need be..

Of course it will void warranty! Even rooting your device (should) void your warranty. Jailbreaking your iDevice will void warranty. Why peoples even ask these questions..?
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A little rumor of irc chan Official alpharevx :
[12:19:22] * idanfima changes topic to 'Sensation-Devs.com - .seen <nick>, !news || MOTD: AlpaRevX will release S-OFF hboot versions 1.17.x and 1.18.x forthcoming Sunday *rumor* || #sensation-support for help! OC'ing included || New facebook page! http://goo.gl/O201Z'
Maybe Sunday!

Thing is, though, regardless of unlocking the bootloader so long as you have an RUU for your device I don't think HTC should say it invalidates your warranty as it can be reverted to stock easily - and even easier with S-OFF!
I don't see why HTC are making such a big deal about it all

s-off != bootloader unlock

So S4G is supported haha..
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Dear God please stop allowing people to create pointless threads that contain no new information....thanks AMEN

It doesn't matter what I expect. If HTC is going to void its warranty because you use a process they themselves put in place, they need to put that in writing. Internet chatter or the word of a call center script monkey doesn't mean anything. Until it is shown in official company correspondence with all legal disclaimers included it's all bull****.

Official Unlocking Your Bootloader from HTC

Hi guys, HTC official unlocking bootloader HERE
Original text:
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. We have heard your voice and starting now, we will allow our bootloader to be unlocked for 2011 models going forward. We plan on releasing the updates that will allow you to unlock your bootloader in the coming months, please keep an eye on this website for more details on which devices will be adding this feature. We are extremely pleased to see the energy and enthusiasm from our fans and loyal customers, and we are excited to see what you are capable of. HTC eagerly anticipates your innovations.
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty. Please note that unlocking your bootloader does not mean that you will be able to unlock the SIM lock. Unlocking your SIM lock is at the discretion of your operator/carrier and is not part of the bootloader unlocking scope.
Our devices have been designed with our hardware and software specifications in mind and unlocking the bootloader will change the software and may cause unexpected side effects. It is impossible for HTC to ensure the proper functioning of your device after this. In the worst case scenario, it is possible that your device may be physically damaged due to overheating or the behavior of your device might be altered including, but not limited to, hearing aid compatibility (HAC) and specific absorption rate (SAR) values.
Some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed any more because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC. Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable. Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader. HTC bears no responsibility if your device is no longer usable afterwards.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, due to some of our carrier customers concerns, certain models with specific restrictions may not be able to be unlocked. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader.
We strongly suggest that you do not unlock the bootloader unless you are confident that you understand the risks involved. This is a technical procedure and the side effects could possibly necessitate repairs to your device not covered under warranty. If you are still interested in unlocking the bootloader, and you understand the consequences both to your device and to your warranty, then you may refer to the following pages where we have provided the unlocking instructions.
Waiting for another model...now only for Sensation

At the moment, very interesting.

Why has this been posted in the Desire S forum?
Surely it would be better in the Sensation forum, given that page has no information on unlocking the Desrie S boot-loader....

It is not for our Desire S ... Just Sensatiion and EVO 3D ... also it void warranty although its official , so i think Revolutionary is better way...

Bubaaak said:
so i think Revolutionary is better way...
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do you think that doesn't void your warranty?

WWWeed said:
Why has this been posted in the Desire S forum?
Surely it would be better in the Sensation forum, given that page has no information on unlocking the Desrie S boot-loader....
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"We plan on releasing the updates that will allow you to unlock your bootloader in the coming months, please keep an eye on this website for more details on which devices will be adding this feature."

looktall said:
do you think that doesn't void your warranty?
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Sure but you can also restore the stock ROM and gain warrenty back

HTCDev response

I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
htcdev said:
Thank you Bryan for contacting HTC Technical Support. I understand you're inquiring about unlocking the bootloader and releasing the kernel source for your HTC One X. I am more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. Please refer to our list of supported devices to see if your device is eligible for unlocking the bootloader. http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
HTC will typically publish on http://developer.htc.com or htcdev.com the Kernel open source code for recently released devices as soon as possible. HTC will normally publish this within 90 to 120 days. This time frame is within the requirements of the open source community.
Feel free to reply should you have any further questions. If you feel more comfortable discussing issues by phone, you can contact Technical Support at 1-866-449-8358, 6 am to 1 am EST, 7 days a week.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop

bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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yea but without being unlocked kernel source doesnt help very much.
and its att, rogers doesnt cripple phones anymore...mines unlocked.
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I went to HTC's site and there are over 30 versions of the source code for download on the One X....just not for ATT...so it seems HTC is not the problem...sounds typical of att though...the kernal for T-Mobile version is already out..(One S)..I'm going to call and send email to att...might even threaten to cancel..one call won't help a lot but if a lot of calls come in then who knows...att claims to be ALL about customer satisfaction...
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bhundven said:
I went to htcdev's site and clicked the feedback button a few days back.
I simply asked when AT&T HTC One X (a.k.a Elite) kernel source would be released and if/when unlocked bootloaders would be available.
Got the following response today.
(bold added by me)
Granted this response is pretty generic. All device manufacturers have a time limit (60, 90, 120 days after release), but sometimes are nice *cough*galaxy note*cough*... and release code before the phone even releases.
Compared to my experience with other device manufactures, htc's response time and the response itself were pretty good.
And I'm sure a few hundred users for just this device, as well as other devices without source and unlocked bl are also hitting htcdev's customer facing feedback/support. So I'm posting this here so you don't have to go ask them the same exact question
If the AT&T HTC One X is one of the "certain models [that] may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.", we will have to give lots of thanks to the RDs and Senior Members working on this, and donate to them if you can! So instead of bugging htc about the bootloaders, you should be pointing that at AT&T/Rogers/etc...
I personally don't know enough about htc bl unlocking, but am stoked for kernel source to drop
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This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....

nugzo said:
This same thing (slightly different verbiage) was already posted multiple times (about locked bootloader) This is same response they gave Paul, posted here (XDA), at Engadget and others.
"HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
Kernel source does no good until we can use it....
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I agree. I was making a point that htc seems responsive.
The problem is with AT&T/Rogers/etc.
I didn't post this as 'bleeding edge news'. I pm'd you the same.
Everyone talks about htcdev unlock, I was trying to also make a point that it may not be up to htc if the bootloaders become unlocked. So support your local bootloader unlocking dev.
Sorry for any confusion, I thought it read clear when I clicked `post'.

How soon do you think there will be a 2.20 root exploit available?

Do you think there will be a root exploit for 2.20 soon and if so when do you think it will be available?

I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.

thephased said:
I hope there's some devs willing to work on it. It's a relatively new software version. We all gotta have some patience. I'd really like to get CM10 up and running on the HOX. Works great on my Nexus 7.
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I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!

mmmatt312 said:
I know, I actually emailed htc saying something like "we pay for these phone with our money we should be able to do what we want to do with them." and here is what they said: "I understand that you have some concerns regarding the bootloader unlock on the HTC One X and I would be more than happy to assist you with information!
HTC is committed to listening to users and delivering customer satisfaction. Since announcing our commitment to unlockable bootloaders, HTC has worked to enable our customers to unlock the bootloader on more than 45 devices over the past six months. In some cases, however, restrictions prevent certain devices from participating in our bootloader unlocking program. Rest assured, HTC is committed to assisting developers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices and we'll continue to unlock additional devices in the future."
I personally would love to be able to unlock the AT&T HOX through the htcdev website that would be awesome!
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Unfortunately, the carriers have the upper hand when it comes to bootloaders and whether they allow them to be unlocked. It could be a while, if ever, until HTC adds the AT&T HOX to their supported unlockable devices. I'll take an unofficial method instead if that's what's available.But yeah, it would be great if it happened officially.

asking when root will be available is like asking a dev when his rom is going to be updated. rest assured it will happen eventually, but the devs that do this do it in there spare time when not at work or with family, and most of the time end up doing all for free and risking there own devices. so the answer is it will come but only when it ready.

When you find the exploit
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Get your hopes up for the 4th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832921
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superchilpil said:
When you find the exploit
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Lol.

Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.

18th.abn said:
Those are the kindest remarks I've ever seen to a thread like this being posted. Is anybody going to say how ignorant of a question that is to ask? Mods please move this thread to the ESP forums for our psychics evaluate.
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All the jerks bought S3's.
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