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How long before users will be able to flash a ICS custom rom? Im assuming before its officially released for the nexus s? am i wrong here? because i had gingerbread on my evo far before sprint released it. Im hoping its the same case for ICS and my nexus s 4g.
Most Likely Yes, but plz post in the RIGHT section.
I would imagine to see some ICS themes soon... I downloaded the ICS System Dump and looked around for quite some time... Changes are minor to most, some new stuff here and there icon speaking... There are a few new additional pngs (images) we didn't have before.
Probably the biggest headache I see is since ICS's theory is to combine tablets and phones into one OS there are in some APKs up to a dozen different folders now to support all the diffferent screen sizes and formats so themers are gonna be going nuts doing "complete" themes across the board..
It should be fun
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Most Likely Yes, but plz post in the RIGHT section.
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oh sorry. i just thought this was the only NS4G forum on xda. The others all say nexus s. The NS4G doesnt have its own seperate forum, otherwise i would have posted it in the Q&A.
Notice your phone starts with the word Nexus S..... So based on that fact, I would say it would be proper to post in the Nexus S Question and Answer Thread. Also, this topic has been and will continue to be asked daily until it is actually released.
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oh sorry. i just thought this was the only NS4G forum on xda. The others all say nexus s. The NS4G doesnt have its own seperate forum, otherwise i would have posted it in the Q&A.
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You could have post in the general. It's a nexus s forum for all nexus
s types.
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hell yeah man!
post nazi's tryin to act leet
who cares, we knows its in the wrong thread. so many useless posts on oh, wrong section and bashin. just answer and nicely mention wrong section or dont, let a mod move it.
Windst said:
post nazi's tryin to act leet
who cares, we knows its in the wrong thread. so many useless posts on oh, wrong section and bashin. just answer and nicely mention wrong section or dont, let a mod move it.
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Thanks for the useless post
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Thanks for the useless post
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And thank YOU sir, for that useless post
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And thank YOU sir, for that useless post
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Useless ^^^^
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Useless ^^^^
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So is yours.
So is mine.
Every post is a useless post.
^^i took all these posts and printed them up to use as toilet paper.
(Teabags)
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And thank YOU sir, for that useless post
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You are welcome kind sir.
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Be patient Google said they're working on an ice version for the nexus s right now! Just search nexus s in Google and there's articles about it
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Guys, honestly you have to stop making threads asking ETA's for ROM's and such. If there was a ROM in the works, a dev would post about it and let us know. You have to be patient
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usually, developers start making custom roms when google drops the source into aosp. and google already said that they arent doing that until the first ICS phone(galaxy nexus) gets released in november.
simms22 said:
usually, developers start making custom roms when google drops the source into aosp. and google already said that they arent doing that until the first ICS phone(galaxy nexus) gets released in november.
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Someone could make a SDK port however. Not much would work though without source.
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Someone could make a SDK port however. Not much would work though without source.
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yea, sdk ports are just that. mostly useless, but can be fun to play with
So with every daily build can I just flash it over the current so I don't have to redo my apps and layouts and stuff? Or will it be reset anyway
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this will be good
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA?hd=1
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this will be good
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA?hd=1
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I guess I'm supposed to watch that..... nope
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This belongs in q& a as this is not dev.
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I guess I'm supposed to watch that..... nope
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you should it was made for folks like you
This thread is why our devs left us. Read the rules, and post in the correct forum/thread.
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this will be good
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA?hd=1
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lmao agree 100% and give +1
Douche bags, what's the point of all that? Really ? Do u feel special about it? A simple answer or a hey this is the wrong section would've been nice, better than being an ass people
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Douche bags, what's the point of all that? Really ? Do u feel special about it? A simple answer or a hey this is the wrong section would've been nice, better than being an ass people
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You can't really blame them as they've put up with people who thought they were too good for the rules for so damn long. We'll ignore the fact that when you first show up in the Infuse forums, there's a forum labeled Q&A. Common sense would dictate that maybe questions should go there.
So you already showed a lack of common sense by skipping over a forum plainly labeled Q&A for all the world to see. After running blindly past that forum you ended up here in the development section. I mean yeah you really shouldn't be tossing random questions here but I could see how it could confuse you, here you see TWO CM7 threads, wow you hit the jackpot!
But once again instead of taking a minute to check those posts out, instead of using the handy dandy search tool up there ^ and instead of at least posting in one of the other CM7 related threads, you decided to say **** IT to common sense and created a brand new thread for your question.
You aren't special, the question has been asked and answered elsewhere, go forth and find the answer you seek.
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Douche bags, what's the point of all that? Really ? Do u feel special about it? A simple answer or a hey this is the wrong section would've been nice, better than being an ass people
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I would have hoped that after 46 posts you would have some idea of where to post things, but I guess not. Ya, it was a sarcastic (yet funny) reply, brush it off and move on.
i mean cmon dude. its a question. if you connect the dots, it can easliy lead you to the Q&A... i do not see one bit of android development here... development of flaming is freaking blossoming though.
Oh but he's too good for the Q&A section... He needs a thread in the busy development section all for himself and his most important question!
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Yeah that video is def for you buddy
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I guess I'm supposed to watch that..... nope
Nubs shouldn't be giving us attitude
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adalgiso said:
This thread is why our devs left us. Read the rules, and post in the correct forum/thread.
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our devs who left left for a better phone with better software support that isn't held back by that carrier since it can have software ported from the international version but they each may build one last rom when att drops gb, mikey is still answering in his thread and he and gtg both indicated that they may give it one last shot when the official gb drops. also entropy is still here, though he also got a gs2.
Douche bags, what's the point of all that? Really ? Do u feel special about it? A simple answer or a hey this is the wrong section would've been nice, better than being an ass people
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dude it's the internet, dont be so sensitive. oh and ask a mod to move this to Q&A never mind just ask it to be closed. when you get to Q&A you will se that there is a cm7 Q&A thread already there, plus closing this will stop the flaming.
what was that question again? it got lost in the flaming and belligerent defense of ignorance. a lot of us when we are newbs do something against the rules and get our peepee spanked for it. you are not unique. defending yourself sounds a bit like "hey i dont know the rules even though they are stickied in multiple forums in bold letters, why should i have to follow rules i dont know?" sorry to be a **** but this is the internet and that's how it is.
Slow down guys--if you think the thread doesn't belong in a certain area, simply report it.
Anyhow, moved to the appropriate section.
thank you , i looking it
This phone should have it's own section
The i777 and the Skyrocket are two totally different devices. Just going to cause confusion and probably bricked devices.
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Yes.. yes it does need it's own section!
I just picked mine up yesterday, rooted it manually and started futzing around, does anyone know where the tethering provisioning check is handled? My first target for modification is that, and then Kies Air, it seems pretty modular, I wouldn't mind adding a few modules of my own
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^ dang, it's been a while!
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The i777 and the Skyrocket are two totally different devices. Just going to cause confusion and probably bricked devices.
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+1. Leaving the skyrocket dev section in here is a terrible idea.
x100. This is silly.
This is only going to cause more mess, and more confusion. There are other phones that share almost identical hardware that have their own section, all we share is the beginning of our phone names. Why not put EVERY single S2 into 1 section while you are at it?
How many bricked skyrockets does it take to get their own section?
We may never know.
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Hmm This is clearly the I777 Forum branch, no reason to put the Skyrocket in here, it's not a I777
If it's gonna be lumped, it should be lumped with the T989 since it's far closer to that device hardware-wise.
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Funny
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Your Friendly Neighborhood Forum Moderator(tm) would love to help, but sadly it is out of my power. I have brought it up with my contacts though, so hang tight all.. (aka, yes, i did see the many reported posts, but i cannot do anything at this time..)
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Another place to request our own forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306
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Freeeeeeedooooooommmmm!!!
We got our new forums. Let's get this place rolling!
You are welcome. I decided to post the concerns again, and now the right eyes saw it. Happy it worked out fast.. Thanks senior staff!
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You are welcome. I decided to post the concerns again, and now the right eyes saw it. Happy it worked out fast.. Thanks senior staff!
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Well it's very much appreciated. And yeah that was a pretty quick and very necessary move. Appreciate the persistence!
finally we have a home!!!!
Divine, should we report threads in the Dev section that now should be moved to a more appropriate forum now that we have them?
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Time to post everything in right sections....now we need a mod to move all the q's into the q&a section
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If LG were to release ICS on the G2X? I see devs making great ROMs for it yet are hindered by a lack of drivers, which I assume would be part of an official ICS update. Any devs care to comment?
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Darkness30XX said:
If LG were to release ICS on the G2X?
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If LG released ICS we would never see another useless thread like this one....
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I.R.Chevy said:
If LG released ICS we would never see another useless thread like this one....
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No need to be so mean to the guy. That is just as useless.
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nickster1 said:
No need to be so mean to the guy. That is just as useless.
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Not exactly, now he will be hesitant to make posts, and new threads.
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If LG were to release ICS on the G2X? I see devs making great ROMs for it yet are hindered by a lack of drivers, which I assume would be part of an official ICS update. Any devs care to comment?
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Well, take whats wrong with the ICS roms now and just imagine those things working.
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Well, take whats wrong with the ICS roms now and just imagine those things working.
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Exactly! SefEXE just answered your entire post with one statement. Nicely said SefEXE.
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Not exactly, now he will be hesitant to make posts, and new threads.
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Not really. Pricks like him are abundant on forums, even the respected forums here on XDA. Still, just saying "what isn't working now will work" is not enough. With those broken features working, could devs be motivated to step up custom scripts and mods that go beyond even what's available now?
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Not really. Pricks like him are abundant on forums, even the respected forums here on XDA. Still, just saying "what isn't working now will work" is not enough. With those broken features working, could devs be motivated to step up custom scripts and mods that go beyond even what's available now?
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Respected forums? Xda? Maybe like before Android, not anymore now.
A lot of people are just disappointed with the same questions being asked like 5 times when you could just click a page or 2 back and see the same topic already discussed.
We just need an active moderator for these forums to merge the redundant topics together.
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Respected forums? Xda? Maybe like before Android, not anymore now.
A lot of people are just disappointed with the same questions being asked like 5 times when you could just click a page or 2 back and see the same topic already discussed.
We just need an active moderator for these forums to merge the redundant topics together.
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I'm thinking Friday I'm going to spam his/her pm box with links of stuff that need to be merged (21y)
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mt3g said:
I'm thinking Friday I'm going to spam his/her pm box with links of stuff that need to be merged (21y)
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I don't know, I got my ass warmed for spamming, but then they hired me to spam professionally. I'm not trying to start anything, mt3g we've been down that road, accomplished nothing. Anyhow, my question is, and I understand basically, but why do you guys worry so much about people starting new threads? Its not using any storage space that would affect any of us. When a new thread is started, no matter if there's a thousand just like it, it promotes social gathering and in most cases, usefull information. But(never start a sentence with this), when you guys run your cruisers down here and go Gestapo on the op's, that's even more useless than the duplicate thread. Now, instead of a duplicate thread with new and useful information, its a duplicate thread with new and useful information that's been cluttered by flamers and rent-a-thread cops. Does it make sense? I'm really trying to be professional here, but guys, listen, I was a mod for 2 forums prior to working for XDA and I'm gonna tell ya, playing forum God got old within 5 minutes. You don't know our mods are not active, I got disciplined when I screwed up. Maybe you're wrong about starting new threads?Buru, I really respect you and your work and I really don't like disagreeing with you. I hope that I don't jeopardize our getting along. It just needs to be said that there are as many people fed up with the vigilante moderating, if not more, than those fed up with duplicate thread starters. Look at it like this, has any of the thread copping payed off? No. Did anyone active in thread copping become mod or get hired? No. Now, do I really need to say anymore? Just look at all I just cluttered this thread up with.......... thread copping........, unproductive. If you disagree with me, that is your right if you live in the united states, this is XDA, I don't care if you disagree with me, you don't have XDA signing your checks.
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And I could care less if they do sign yours, I'm not trying to mod or be a cop, I would like to come to a forum that I enjoyed for about 3-4 years until lately. This is the sloppiest and most unorganized phone e section I've read... the MyTouch 3G and G1 are still modded it seems, the O2X is incredibly controlled... the tempo and mood would be a lot better and here from a lot of members some would stick around and others wouldn't leave. I'm surprised whitehawkX came back and EaglesBlood is still here... if I'm that big of a problem the mods will come and say something to me and I will behave but until then.... deal with me I guess.
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Wow. Are your saying because there are threads that I guess are beneath you or a liitle repetitive, that the developers should up and leave a phone that they love?
G2x
How did you get any of that from what I said? Quote specifically please, and I will reiterate what was confused... I would never want that! That's the only reason I'm still with the g2x, I'm saying the repetitiveness of useless threads ("how do you update baseband, and how come I hear these noises when I call someone after installing this rom, I'm coming from 2.3.4 I received yesterday.") anything of that nature is what's wrong with this forum.
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Four peaks is on me when i get back to the valley for your recent postings sir... these forums are just filled with stupid lol
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How did you get any of that from what I said? Quote specifically please, and I will reiterate what was confused... I would never want that! That's the only reason I'm still with the g2x, I'm saying the repetitiveness of useless threads ("how do you update baseband, and how come I hear these noises when I call someone after installing this rom, I'm coming from 2.3.4 I received yesterday.") anything of that nature is what's wrong with this forum.
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I agree with you completely and I don't see how he got that from your post...
Anyway... yes, this forum needs an active moderator, pretty desperately in fact.
If I can find that post that a moderator put about what xda is and is not... perfect post.
So... yeah.
Thanks both
@jHaste, I know someone that works there and I seriously have never been but all my friends go, I need to check the place out.
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Thanks both
@jHaste, I know someone that works there and I seriously have never been but all my friends go, I need to check the place out.
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yea i know a few people there as well, their beers are so freaking good
That's the thing I love beer all kinds of beers, I have a good list of yardhouse beers that I've put down...
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I'm coming to the G2x from a few other Android phones (LG Optimus V & Motorola Triumph) and it was hard to find the relevant and important info here even though I've written guides & developed for other Android phones before.
There's no need to depend on moderators, just a default thread to point everyone to with a FAQ section (maybe eventually sticky it or put it on the top of the stickied thread). Then it should be updated regularly by a person with good writing skills. or even a wikipage on github that a select few can update so the burden isn't on one person. Anyway I know it's towards the end of the G2x's lifecycle (until official ICS maybe), so none of this may matter, but just suggesting for future reference. Good, clean, & simple documentation prevents a lot of repeated questions.
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No need to be so mean to the guy. That is just as useless.
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I second that
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A lot of senior members keep mentioning one needs to be created, so here it is!
This is for anyone who feels like their questions are too simple or cannot be found. Next, this is a new member friendly zone, trolling, and flaming will not be tolerated.
ASK ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS!
Lastly, make sure to press the thank you button!
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Title needs changed to be more noob friendly. Might I suggest the ask us anything thread.
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Why are we here?
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Why are we here?
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To answer all of the ridiculous questions hurled about by people whose Google don't work real good. *Bad grammar for effect*
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To answer all of the ridiculous questions hurled about by people whose Google don't work real good. *Bad grammar for effect*
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Exactly hopefully it will divert at least some of the noobs here and ease some of the frustration!
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Can I go home yet?
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Can I go home yet?
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JD we all know cardboard boxes aren't homes.
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JD we all know cardboard boxes aren't homes.
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Hey, at least it's his and not his mom's! (Although she did gift it to him after she bought her new washing machine)
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Hey, at least it's his and not his mom's! (Although she did gift it to him after she bought her new washing machine)
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Im not living here. I'm just..... On vacation!
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So this thread will remain noob friendly? Or is it going to be the typical firing range for noobs with bulleyes on the backs?
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So this thread will remain noob friendly? Or is it going to be the typical firing range for noobs with bulleyes on the backs?
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Well it's not starting out friendly lol. Cardboard homes, jeez. It's a rough crowd in here. But seriously, I think it should be noob friendly and a no flaming zone.
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Well it's not starting out friendly lol. Cardboard homes, jeez. It's a rough crowd in here. But seriously, I think it should be noob friendly and a no flaming zone.
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I agree. Most of the time, most noobs still dont know what they are asking. Even after reading this **** a few times. Its still greek.
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Well it's not starting out friendly lol. Cardboard homes, jeez. It's a rough crowd in here. But seriously, I think it should be noob friendly and a no flaming zone.
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Agreed don't wanna scare them away. The point is to draw all their questions here and keep them away from dev threads and such.
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Hey guyz! I found this Galaxy S4 ROM and, since I have a Galaxy S2, I figure it will be at least half compatible because, I mean, 2 is half of 4 right!?! Is this logic correct? Also, if I put this ROM thingy into my phone, will it make it equal to a Galaxy S3?
Anyway, here's the link, check it out and let me know how quickly I should download it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212218
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bps119 said:
Hey guyz! I found this Galaxy S4 ROM and, since I have a Galaxy S2, I figure it will be at least half compatible because, I mean, 2 is half of 4 right!?! Is this logic correct? Also, if I put this ROM thingy into my phone, will it make it equal to a Galaxy S3?
Anyway, here's the link, check it out and let me know how quickly I should download it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212218
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Obvious troll lol
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bps119 said:
Hey guyz! I found this Galaxy S4 ROM and, since I have a Galaxy S2, I figure it will be at least half compatible because, I mean, 2 is half of 4 right!?! Is this logic correct? Also, if I put this ROM thingy into my phone, will it make it equal to a Galaxy S3?
Anyway, here's the link, check it out and let me know how quickly I should download it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212218
Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You'll have to stop the flash half way through or you'll get a bricked s4. If you stop the flash a quarter way thru your s3 will be fine.
Edit: if you get the bricked s4 just use the dbag service to get it fixed. Just Google dbag
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Obvious troll lol
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Hey now, I just wanted to test the waters and see just how friendly this thread was going to be. Guess I should started a dummy account and posted it under that...may have been less obvious
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Agreed don't wanna scare them away. The point is to draw all their questions here and keep them away from dev threads and such.
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+1
We don't eat noobz HERE.
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UPDATE-
I have since received a couple PM's by some very sincere users who want this thread to go on. So---- I have reopened and have also subscribed to continue to monitor this thread.
My opinion below still stands, there are already a couple threads that, if you used search, most users would find what they need. But, as this thread is covering all the other stuff, I have reopened it.
Trolls and flamers have no place in this thread and will be infracted, no more warnings.
(my earlier statement)
There already is a similar post/thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268, coupled with the fact that this type of thread does nothing but invite content-less flaming and trolling.
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UPDATE-
I have since received a couple PM's by some very sincere users who want this thread to go on. So---- I have reopened and have also subscribed to continue to monitor this thread.
My opinion below still stands, there are already a couple threads that, if you used search, most users would find what they need. But, as this thread is covering all the other stuff, I have reopened it.
Trolls and flamers have no place in this thread and will be infracted, no more warnings.
(my earlier statement)
There already is a similar post/thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427268, coupled with the fact that this type of thread does nothing but invite content-less flaming and trolling.
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Thank you for listening we appreciate the opportunity to use this as a tool and hope to prove you wrong.
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