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[Q} cyanogenmod?

Does anyone know if cyanogen will ever come to the charge? I've seen rumors and and some threads but nothing concrete

Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...

imnuts said:
Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...
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that was too funny

imnuts said:
Development is for releases of ROMs/Kernels/Mods/etc not to start threads and ask questions. Also, I'm sure no one would mind if you started working on it yourself...
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PWNED
Sent from my Droid Charge running Humble 1.42

Since nobody wants to give you a straight up response, having been using a Fascinate from the beginning, based on that cycle, it is probably a year out if I had to guess. That's if people are actively working on it I suppose. We just now got it working well on the Fascinate...look at the Fascinate launch date, make a few assumptions, and do the math. Unless something huge happens I would expect it to be a long time, if ever. The one saving grace for this phone is probably its similarities to many other phones like the GalaxyS line and NexusS. Nobody knows when.

Likes the poster above me said, there's no definitive information. I'd say that's the worst thing about the Charge. Not the low RAM or the lack of official GB it's just not a huge scene. Look @ the Galaxy S2, not even released in the U.S. and it's already got Cyanogen. Kind of sad to see such a beautiful phone not getting the attention it deserves.

I'm not expecting much in the way of Charge development. I kind of knew when i got it as a replacement for the fascinate that it was a holdover till March (my 20 month upgrade eligibility). At least i got a better camera, front camera and LTE for real nice chatting video.

orateam said:
I'm not expecting much in the way of Charge development. I kind of knew when i got it as a replacement for the fascinate that it was a holdover till March (my 20 month upgrade eligibility). At least i got a better camera, front camera and LTE for real nice chatting video.
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We hopefully have omfgb coming soon . I cant wait for AOSP.
Droid Charge/Humble 1.42/PBJ OTB 1.4ghz

bobthesalesclerk said:
We hopefully have omfgb coming soon . I cant wait for AOSP.
Droid Charge/Humble 1.42/PBJ OTB 1.4ghz
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That would be nice for sure.

blarrick said:
Likes the poster above me said, there's no definitive information. I'd say that's the worst thing about the Charge. Not the low RAM or the lack of official GB it's just not a huge scene. Look @ the Galaxy S2, not even released in the U.S. and it's already got Cyanogen. Kind of sad to see such a beautiful phone not getting the attention it deserves.
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Galaxy S2 got Cyanogen first because Samsung sent a phone to one of the devs a few months back.

I love my Charge! Came from the Fascinate and had plenty of time to try out CM7. The GPS on the charge is lightning fast right out of the box, touchwiz camera and video player are by far the best available. CM7 definitely offers more control, but the TW camera alone is enough to make me stay.
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i think i read samsung sent 4 phones to the guys at cyanogen mod.
that's pretty amazing if you ask me, to get support from such a major manufacturer.

fortesquieu said:
Galaxy S2 got Cyanogen first because Samsung sent a phone to one of the devs a few months back.
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While true, that should make everyone feel even worse about the dev scene for our phone (that the manufacturer cares enough to get dev for one of their phones but not the one we have).
That said, I've never had a phone with CM. I'm completely happy with the stuff put out by Danalo, Nitro, and I'm sure I'll like kejar's stuff whenever I try it out.

BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
While true, that should make everyone feel even worse about the dev scene for our phone (that the manufacturer cares enough to get dev for one of their phones but not the one we have).
That said, I've never had a phone with CM. I'm completely happy with the stuff put out by Danalo, Nitro, and I'm sure I'll like kejar's stuff whenever I try it out.
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I can tell you when CM7 for the Fascinate got stable and MMS finally got fixed, o tried it out, and compared to all the other Touchwiz based roms, its ridiculously fast. The BML/MTD implementation is above and beyond any TW deodexed, debloated, voodoo ext4 type of rom. That's not to discredit those roms, but a stable CM build with a good kernel literally turned my Fascinate into a whole new device more than a year into its life.

The Rage Thread

Seriously, who's in charge of the stock theming for our Charges? Who's decision was it to release a good phone on the market with a POOP BROWN COLOR SCHEME?! They should be fired!
And why does the battery life SUCK on this phone?! Why is it that we have to painstakingly calibrate the battery ourselves just to squeeze a days worth out of it? Samsung, I know you're trying to keep the costs down, but would it kill you to put a Li-Po battery in here or something?
Why does my 4G randomly drop to 3G, and then to 1X? Granted, somehow I've been seeing a lot less of this lately, but why did you let it happen in the first place?! Come on, that didn't happen to you ONCE during beta testing, Sammy?
Who's the joker who put so little ram into this phone? I bet when they designed it they were like "oh, this is going to screw so many people lol..."
And while I'm at it, I hate noobs. They don't even ATTEMPT to either look through the stickies or use the search.
Other than that, I am truly happy with this phone. I made the right decision when I upgraded.
I feel better after that rant; Feel free to vent some steam about your Charge in this thread; you therapist called, and he wants you to.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1

samsung needs to put a freakin' notification LED in their higher end phones (Galaxy line and Charge).. it's a simple and small thing to do but makes a huge difference, other than that its a great phone I think
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G

kvswim said:
Seriously, who's in charge of the stock theming for our Charges? Who's decision was it to release a good phone on the market with a POOP BROWN COLOR SCHEME?! They should be fired!
And why does the battery life SUCK on this phone?! Why is it that we have to painstakingly calibrate the battery ourselves just to squeeze a days worth out of it? Samsung, I know you're trying to keep the costs down, but would it kill you to put a Li-Po battery in here or something?
Why does my 4G randomly drop to 3G, and then to 1X? Granted, somehow I've been seeing a lot less of this lately, but why did you let it happen in the first place?! Come on, that didn't happen to you ONCE during beta testing, Sammy?
Other than that, I am truly happy with this phone. I made the right decision when I upgraded.
I feel better after that rant; Feel free to vent some steam about your Charge in this thread; you therapist called, and he wants you to.
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1
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1. Totally agree
2. meh, YMMV, maybe it is because I am coming from the fasicinate (I carried 2 extra batteries around to make it through 12 hours but I love the battery life on this puppy
3. I have rock solid 4G, very rarely does it go to 3G here in town. During testing I am sure they have their own tower they are sitting next to,

I love this phone but I too cannot stand the brown/orange theme. Is there any way to change it?

Regarding all android smartphones:
1. What happened to having dedicated Dial and End keys on our *phones*? I'd use that a lot more than a search key.
2. Why can't we get good voice control that just works! My old flip phone did this better.
3. How hard would it be to make data connections work on demand? Take it a step further than juice defender (which doesn't work on our phone anyway). Let us control what apps access the network and when. In the meantime, stop waisting precious battery life keeping data connected "just in case".
4. Build in working app + data backup already. The average user shouldn't have to worry about rooting just for this. Plus they wouldn't lose angry birds progress every time a verizon rep asks them to factory reset. ;-)
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OK, I'll join the rant....The dogs**t brown theme and the battery life are both items I can deal with. I just squint and buy extra batteries but the fact that my data connection is so dodgy drives me crazy! I am constantly getting "network error" msgs or just suddenly from solid 4G to absolutely no data without moving, watching everyone around me breezing along on the web. The fact that I can find myself in the center of Los Angeles and have no 4G, no 3G, no 1x, no data period is so pitiful.
Okay, I feel a little better.....

bn

No issues with any of that. Gummycharged GBE FTW!
(Ok, I do miss a notification LED)

Where the ****s the notification LED, they couldn't even put it on the dam galaxy S2! Let's hope the U.S. versions get it right.
I'll admit, the colors on TW3 suck some ween(well, TW3 in general sucks some ween) but apparently the brighter colors consume more battery because of the SA+ screen.
Battery life is alright.... IF YOU CALIBRATE & UNDERCLOCK. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT! Still better then the 4 hour battery life on my enV Touch, and that wasn't even a smartphone.
FROYO? REALLY? FROYO? COME ON, IT'S A DAM $300 PHONE.
I DONT LIKE THE PUZZLE UNLOCK SCREEN. It doesn't show the battery % and I can't switch to silent from the same screen like AOSP, and why the hell does it need to say Verizon Wireless ON THE DAM LOCK SCREEN!? I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FLASH SO MUCH **** JUST TO MAKE THIS PHONE GOOD.
Come on 4g, what the hell. I'm in a full 5 bar area and it still feels the need to drop to 3g. It's always happening when I'm browsing the web too, not when the phone is sleeping where 4g data wouldn't be necessary but when I'm ACTUALLY USING THE PHONE. 4G IS ****ING WITH ME.
and finally..... WHERE THE **** IS TW4. If this phone releases GB + TW4 + source then this phone will be ABSOLUTELY ****IN' FANTASTIC. It's funny, even with all the flaws this phone is still awesome. It would have been perfect if they just added/fixed the above things from the start. You're right, it does feel good to vent.

blarrick said:
You're right, it does feel good to vent.
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Feels good man...
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1

Schoat333 said:
No issues with any of that. Gummycharged GBE FTW!
(Ok, I do miss a notification LED)
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I actually had a lot of issues with GBE. Switched back to Froyo. But seriously, for a $600 phone I think they should be rolling out the updates. Also, give us the source code, dammit!
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1

Every other 199 phone is getting or has gotten GB and for us that have paid premium 299 for this phone and no GB? That's just crazy, we should send a email to Verizon or Samsung with complaints about this and have everyone here in the forum sign or put their emails in. Lets get gingerbread now

luvtorev said:
Every other 199 phone is getting or has gotten GB and for us that have paid premium 299 for this phone and no GB? That's just crazy, we should send a email to Verizon or Samsung with complaints about this and have everyone here in the forum sign or put their emails in. Lets get gingerbread now
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coming from a Fascinate that took months to get a froyo leak then more months to even get an official froyo OTA, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of update or source release for the Charge either... although as always many thanks to the devs and themers who made the Fassy amazing despite the lack of official support
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge 4G

anoninja118 said:
coming from a Fascinate that took months to get a froyo leak then more months to even get an official froyo OTA, I'm not holding my breath for any kind of update or source release for the Charge either... although as always many thanks to the devs and themers who made the Fassy amazing despite the lack of official support
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Exactly my point, we "the devs" should not be working hard to make this a fast phone or better/smoother it should already be that way out of the box or with upgrades after paying premium for this phone. Remember it's not 199 like all other phones, it is 299 one hundred more than the rest of all other phones from any carriers out there. That is really upsetting. I had the droid inc 2 (199 with 50 mail in rebate, so really 150)for one week before I got the charge and it was a great little phone with the best battery life i have ever had plus it had been upgraded to gingerbread already (thinking about switching back to it). The Droid X, X2, droid 3, are all 199 and running the latest, but we paid 299 for lte and samoled screen but got stuck with froyo. That is really upsetting. I always read how samsung was really bad with updates but I thought this was one of their flagship phones so maybe it would get the upgrades but guess I was wrong, I'm sure it will come but way after everyone else.
ps: im not a dev just to clear up my first sentence, we as in customer

No issues with my phone after rooting and flashing what I want. Today I was losing only 2% battery per hour! I made 2 phone calls and texted a bunch. They do need to get us to GB quick and I wish it was a dual core phone. I'll be getting the Nexus 3 as soon as that comes out and this will be on eBay.

bgorrell said:
1. What happened to having dedicated Dial and End keys on our *phones*? I'd use that a lot more than a search key.
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The (large) majority of smartphone users use their phones more for messaging and web usage than for voice calls. You're in a shrinking minority and it's simply in companies' best interests to cater to the majority of their users.

Its hard for me to relate here. I bought this phone because it is currently the easiest 4G LTE phone to customize. I never planned on keeping stock TW, and will never put it back on my phone, unless I sell it.
I could care less what samsung is doing, because we have plenty of great developers, that are doing way better.
I recommend anyone that hates the stock samsung experience flash a custom rom. You'll be a lot happier with this phone.

Schoat333 said:
Its hard for me to relate here. I bought this phone because it is currently the easiest 4G LTE phone to customize. I never planned on keeping stock TW, and will never put it back on my phone, unless I sell it.
I could care less what samsung is doing, because we have plenty of great developers, that are doing way better.
I recommend anyone that hates the stock samsung experience flash a custom rom. You'll be a lot happier with this phone.
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We all have custom roms here. Yes, our devs are great, but our roms could be so much better if we had source and official support. Yes, this is the current flagship 4G LTE phone, but it lacks common features of lesser phones!
Sent from my Droid Charge running GummyFroyo 1.9.1

luvtorev said:
Exactly my point, we "the devs" should not be working hard to make this a fast phone or better/smoother it should already be that way out of the box or with upgrades after paying premium for this phone. Remember it's not 199 like all other phones, it is 299 one hundred more than the rest of all other phones from any carriers out there. That is really upsetting. I had the droid inc 2 (199 with 50 mail in rebate, so really 150)for one week before I got the charge and it was a great little phone with the best battery life i have ever had plus it had been upgraded to gingerbread already (thinking about switching back to it). The Droid X, X2, droid 3, are all 199 and running the latest, but we paid 299 for lte and samoled screen but got stuck with froyo. That is really upsetting. I always read how samsung was really bad with updates but I thought this was one of their flagship phones so maybe it would get the upgrades but guess I was wrong, I'm sure it will come but way after everyone else.
ps: im not a dev just to clear up my first sentence, we as in customer
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Well the Galaxy S line were samsung's flagship devices last year when they came out and it still took months and months even for official froyo (especially for the Fascinate) so just because the Charge is the latest and greatest from samsung (on verizon anyway) doesn't mean it'll get a ton of support out of the gate unfortunately... I know that 2.2 froyo was a huge improvement over 2.1 eclair so perhaps thats why it took so long, however 2.2 to gingerbread is not a major OS overhaul so hopefully that means we won't have to wait as long for 2.3 GB. I'd give it probably till the end of the year before we have GB and up to date source code.

anoninja118 said:
Well the Galaxy S line were samsung's flagship devices last year when they came out and it still took months and months even for official froyo (especially for the Fascinate) so just because the Charge is the latest and greatest from samsung (on verizon anyway) doesn't mean it'll get a ton of support out of the gate unfortunately... I know that 2.2 froyo was a huge improvement over 2.1 eclair so perhaps thats why it took so long, however 2.2 to gingerbread is not a major OS overhaul so hopefully that means we won't have to wait as long for 2.3 GB. I'd give it probably till the end of the year before we have GB and up to date source code.
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I see what you are saying but at the same time if what you say here, by the end of the year we should have GB and source, is true then we will still not be up to date because ice cream sandwich will be out and we will still be playing catching up with os. I guess it's all part of sells, just make phones and market well and move on....ahh why did i fall in love with android lol

[Q] Is anyone in the loop on new Roms?

Im thinking about trading my Droid incredible 2 for a charge, and i'm only looking in the development threads right now. Are there any new ROMs on the horizon? Or any latest news i can be informed of?

x Eacott said:
Im thinking about trading my Droid incredible 2 for a charge, and i'm only looking in the development threads right now. Are there any new ROMs on the horizon? Or any latest news i can be informed of?
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Well gummycharged 2.0 is currently in the works and from the previews we've seen it looks pretty good. I don't know much about the other froyo ROMs and I haven't messed with GB yet. But development is still going strong for the charge.

The developer community for the Charge is likely smaller, so the number of available ROMs is lower compared to the Inc2. However, what is available is pretty good for being all based on the stock software. AOSP based ROMs will come in due time, but again, given the small developer community, it may take some time.

Darkslide charged is suppose to be coming soon! it will be GB.

Appreciate guys. I almost assumed it was a smaller Dev. community but that doesnt make it any less good to everyone, Everyone on the DINC2 forums were great, and im hoping to join this. Im no Dev, but i still would like to give something back to help anyone out there as best as i can

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Darkslide charged is suppose to be coming soon! it will be GB.
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Darkslade sounds very intriguing...
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OMFGB/OMGB & CM7 are coming to the Charge but it's rumored to be a long ways away. Gummycharged 2.0 is looking great and Team Gummycharged keeps growing. As of now the best ROMs out are Gummy/Humble/Eclipse, my personal favorite being Eclipse.

If u have lte its probably worth the trade...otherwise.

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If u have lte its probably worth the trade...otherwise.
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Yeah, 4G Area over here

Once you go 4g you don't go back.

I thought that was black...
anyways
Yeah the gummycharged roms are very solid. 2.0 will be amazing. 1.9rc2.3 is a gingy build and is already rock solid.
AOSP will be great once we get it. I heard it is partially samsung's fault for making their phones so hard to port from one to another or we would have had it a long time ago with the dev community on the fascinate.
As long as kejar doesn't go anywhere, we will be good lol. He is a mastermind.

Cm7?

Thinking about getting a charge from swappa or Craigslist. What is the possibility that the charge will see cm7 any time soon?
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Thinking about getting a charge from swappa or Craigslist. What is the possibility that the charge will see cm7 any time soon?
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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it won't be CM7 it'll most likely be CM9/ICS at this point and I'd say its probably a month or more off unfortunately... however it's a nice phone regardless, the best of the older single core generation for sure and if you can pick one up for cheap then I'd suggest glancing through the general and q&a sections to see if theres any problems you can't live with and then make your decision

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it won't be CM7 it'll most likely be CM9/ICS at this point and I'd say its probably a month or more off unfortunately... however it's a nice phone regardless, the best of the older single core generation for sure and if you can pick one up for cheap then I'd suggest glancing through the general and q&a sections to see if theres any problems you can't live with and then make your decision
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Thanks for the quick answer. Ill be honest, cm7 has been my b&b on my incredible since it came out. And it'll be hard to leave it. Ill have to try a charge out to see if its worth parting with my incredible for.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Thanks for the quick answer. Ill be honest, cm7 has been my b&b on my incredible since it came out. And it'll be hard to leave it. Ill have to try a charge out to see if its worth parting with my incredible for.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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well RIL/radios are the only setback now for 4G phones getting any kind of AOSP stuff like CM7/CM9/ICS, I don't see a reason why CM7 wouldn't be possible I only say the other two because they're the most recent

If you don't mind waiting a while, the charge is the best of the first gen 4g phones (tbolt, charge, rev, bionic) and the best single core phone on Verizon hardware wise. Once we get aosp running and the ability to oc the gpu to nexus speed it will be amazing.
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watt9493 said:
Thanks for the quick answer. Ill be honest, cm7 has been my b&b on my incredible since it came out. And it'll be hard to leave it. Ill have to try a charge out to see if its worth parting with my incredible for.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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Dude do you know that the incredible has ICS already ported to it? Kushdeck has an Alpha5 version already running- running well might I add. My wife has the incredible and I would say that the ported over ICS is giving cm7 a run for its money. Cyanogen has stated also that they will be supporting the incredible amongst others soon with cm9.. FYI.. The Charge is great- just hope that this break through with ICS will happen- it will lead the way for more development for the Charge.

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Dude do you know that the incredible has ICS already ported to it? Kushdeck has an Alpha5 version already running- running well might I add. My wife has the incredible and I would say that the ported over ICS is giving cm7 a run for its money. Cyanogen has stated also that they will be supporting the incredible amongst others soon with cm9.. FYI.. The Charge is great- just hope that this break through with ICS will happen- it will lead the way for more development for the Charge.
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The battery drain is way too much. I can go 2 days on a 1900mah battery on cm7. On ics, I get maybe 12 hours out of the same battery. And I like the stability of gingerbread, versus the slight instability of ics. Ill take the battery life.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

Why did everyone suddenly abandon ship?

It's frustrating hearing all the fuss over the Mecha yet HTC doesn't even want to support their device. Sad really, especially if you can't afford another device

I honestly believe the reason the Mecha didn't get the update was due to Verizon, not HTC. I think HTC took the time to make the update, then it went to Verizon's metaphorical desk and sat there. If Verizon can convince existing members to upgrade, they will do it. The more your software gets updated, the less money they make. Stupid, greedy, marketing ploy in my opinion.
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!

I think the timing of people "abandoning ship" has as much to do with contracts coming up than anything else. That said, the lack of ongoing support for what HTC and Verizon positioned as the performance leader (at least at the time, and certainly as its first LTE phone) is what many are voicing frustration about. Combine that with technology consumers' typical desire to have what is "latest and greatest" and it isn't surprising that folks are looking at alternatives like DNA, S3, Note, N4, etc.
Me... I am happy enough with a stable phone that browses, gets and sends emails, and gets through a full day and evening on a charge. Sure, I'd like better battery life. More so, a better screen (bigger, brighter, sharper). Like a thinner form factor that is lighter. Would really like it to be able to display to a TV easily too. But a famous bike designer named Keith Bontrager had a famous saying when people came to him with requests for the "perfect" bike... "Strong. Light. Cheap. Pick Two." I suspect we will always being looking for the perfect phone and be forced to make our choice based on what is most important (and compromise on what we can do without).
btw, I have tried at least one of the ICS ROMs. And while it was a very good ROM through great work by the designer, the fact that they are all based on the same leak seems to limit what can be done or expected with them, and so those phones with ICS (or better yet, Jelly Bean) will always seem better. I can't afford a new phone now anyway... so hopefully when I can the newer phones will be closer to my ideal of perfect is.

xs11e said:
I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!
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The big deal for me is compatibility. More and more apps these days are requiring 4.0 and up. But really, I only ran the ICS Sense builds once and hated them - horrible battery drain, lag, etc. I've been running AOSP builds since they had working data as a DD, and even with the bugs, these ROMs perform better, IMHO than the AOSP GB ROMs did.

I'm selling my gs3 and getting the tbolt again. The gs3 is nice but too much for me. I could use the money anyway. I personally love the thunderbolt.
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I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.

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BoulderGeek said:
I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.
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Want to take advantage of Verizon's excellent network (no comparison in my area) for pennies on the dollar of what they charge? Page plus is a reseller that piggybacks on Verizons network. You can tell VZW to go f__k themselves permanently (with my light usage I went from $90 a month on verizon to $12 a month on page plus) and only had to send in my TBolt for some non rom flash thing that they had back to me in less than a week. I cancelled my VZW plan and paid the $250 penalty and have already recouped my costs. I was even able to keep the same number I had with Verizon. The only disadvantages are no LTE (lol on Thunderbolt no 30 min handwarmer) and their maximum data plan is 2 gig data a month. Truly not a shill and would keep this to myself so deal doesn't change in future but the whole VZW TBolt thing has p_ssed me off.
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Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.

underwaterjr said:
Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.
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Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.

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dumas777 said:
Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.
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I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.

mike dd said:
I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.
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I agree that twisted's ICS rom works very well. I have been using it now since it came out. It is very responsive and works 100%. Also there is constant support for it updates are always coming out.

I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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Turd Furguson said:
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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If you're interested in someone doing any testing, I would be happy to test it.

Also, you guys made me appreciate what we've got, thank you

I also love my TB and I have compared it to other phones. This is my first Android phone but I've had experience with the DROID 2 and the SGS3. I do love the S3's bigger screen however but even after I get another phone I will be keeping this phone.
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Turd Furguson said:
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.

dumas777 said:
Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.
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Haven't tried any of his builds yet. The way people are raving might have to give it a shot. Been stuck on t-shed 1.5, it has been to rock solid to try anything new.
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Nexus 4 Straighttalk
Im thinking Nexus 4 on straighttalk if i dont get ICS By the end of the year on my thunderbolt im skipping and upgrading and ill finally be able to tell verizon to kiss my ass. I actually think ill start paying yearly and pay straighttalk off fo a year and save even more money.

Not everyone is jumping ship.... Some are just boarding...
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