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So I'll be coming from a S***sung Craptivate after it killed its own memory, resulting in not having enough room to load a back-up or a fresh ROM after a full wipe. (Phone is actually in two pieces, divided straight across the center) I had the phone flashed with a rooted deodexed and lagfixed ROM (Paragon RC6) and undervolted and stock clock speed (1ghz). I also had a different launcher, text based icons, widgetlocker, basically nothing was "stock" about it, but that was out of need, to fix the shutdown problem, the crappy GPS, the crappy sound, the crappy speed, the crappy lag.. etc etc..
I will be buying a Desire when it is back in stock locally, hopefully with tomorrow's shipment. But I have a few questions...
How much different is everything about modding this phone? I've read the guides and the stickies, and liking the Ingersol ROM (with just a battery notification mod, would like it to be white and turn red below 15% instead of the crazy colors it does.)
I only have 3 questions really... but one or more may become more. Please bare with me.
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
You need to downgrade to get unknown sources back. HTC sense is basically a theme that designed for there phone if I'm not mistaking. The gingerbread themes here are very smooth and good. You will encounter bugs but that will always be fix from the developers
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1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
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It only enables the exploit to get S-OFF (think recovery 2e from the Captivate, vs 3e which required signed update.zip's). Once done, you don't have to worry about it again. There are plenty of stock based ROM's like TPC or dilligaf for you to choose from if you so desire.
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
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Sense is more than the launcher, it is a complete rework of the Android framework, like TouchWiz, but nowhere near as craptacular. It is actually useful. Any HTC sourced ROM will originally have Sense in it, but some HTC ROM's that say "no-sense" have a good chunk of that removed and are more like AOSP Android, but not quite all the way. Then there are other ROM's like CyanogenMod, which are based on actual Google AOSP code and have NO HTC software in them. It really is your choice which to use. I tend to flip between them. My personal favorites are CM7 and RCMixHD 5.9.4. I would flash them both to see what your preference is.
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
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They work perfectly, with only the minorest of troubles that tend to be app specific, like the Gmail word wrap issue(which is not even a big deal at all). I haven't used a Froyo ROM in weeks.
And finally, welcome from another former Craptivate user! You will be MUCH happier with this phone.
Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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The only thing about sense that really eats battery is the constant data usage of the HTC sense account, if you don't set up an account, your battery life should be rather good. As far as the gb roms they are all working very well, and you will find a small bug here and there, but all the major roms are very good daily drivers.
Most of the roms here have numorous tweaks for stability and snappiness, and you would probably be pleased with any of the major ones. I would say there is more difference between stock sense and tweaked sense than tweaked sense and no sense as far as performance goes. I ran stock for all of a few hours when I got this phone, and have been on a few roms with and without sense, and all of them have been very snappy and smooth.
Any of the major roms that support clock speed adjustments will use setcpu to adjust it, you can run at basically any speed setcpu lets you(within reason, and check the rom post for exceptions and recomendations) I currently run at a maximum of 1.5ghz on miui and my battery life is just as good as it was running 1.2ghz on android revolution.
And last but not least, don't be afraid of gingerbread here, most major bugs have been worked out and 90% of the problems posted about are due to the installer, not the rom.
Welcome aboard!
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Just an add on note:
Gingerbread sense ROMs do not have overclocking right now. But really they are so butter smooth especially when compared to a captivate. RCMix5.9.3 has no compatibility issues I have found.
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Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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XAviierG said:
Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yes they are. 2.3.3.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Haha yeah I do post a bit. IM always on my phone and its just everything going on and I try to make It simple. Once again thanks for putting that all out
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
It all depends what theme goes with you.
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
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I've gotten better performance out of the GB ROMs I have used. I believe that ROM is based off the leaked GB for the Desire HD which is the same thing as the Inspire, so you shouldn't have any worries about it not being designed for this phone.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Yea, the UD ROM is really good. I've been on it for the past week or so and it is running like a champ. Making it really hard to switch to something else.
Hey guys quick question I've been working with my brother in laws t bolt.
When you flash a radio from hboot is that like fast boot before recovery?
and since he is rooted what rom its solid and should I flash so I don't have to revisit it again I had das bamf 1.63 running but have had a few reboots and gps locking issues
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Wow really can't get anyone to help for a sec
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Do you have the Gingerbread Radio currently or froyo. If you have Froyo I would def go with BAMF Stripped its a great rom with great battery life and none of the crappy sense. If you have Gingerbread then go with the GINGERITIS rom which has been running great for me in terms of stability and battery life and ofcourse the uber cool sense 3.0 lockscreen with shortcuts.
And for your Hboot question it is is the white screen with little androids at the bottom . It will tell you if you have S-ON S-OFF and other information such as what radio you are running.
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Wow really can't get anyone to help for a sec
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Truthfully, ROM choice is a matter of personal preference and whatever anyone tells you here is just their opinion. All of the ROMs for TB on XDA are in the Development section, so it would do your brother-in-law justice to have him pick what he wants based on the features.
Ill recommend Liquid Gingersense. I used Liquids ROM's throughout the year/s with my Original Droid 1 and they were fantastic and Ive stuck with them ever since. Always very fast and stable and usually its updated quite frequently.
Go for the sense 3 preview from Adrynalene. This thing has the best eye candy I have ever seen. If you are looking for something speedy, any of the stripped ROM's would work or CM.
Try them all
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this s on or off in hboot screen is that a seting I need to adj?
Once you have permanent root you should have s-off. I if he suffers from random reboots I suggest he run the stock radio the device was shipped with. I have the stock radio and have never had reboot problems. I've tried both das bamf and CM7.
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Started out w Chingeys Perfect Storm. If you want to stay froyo, Stay with V1.4. Or today I switched to DroidTh3ory 3.5.1 if you want to try GingerBread!
Both smooth and solid choices
Mike
In my opinion Pyrimid3D is the best ROM going around, and Ive tried quite a few.
Get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Be sure to vote for it if u like, and donations are always welcome.
it is really quick, but expect this thread to get closed almost immidiately, there are already a few of these around, and you didnt really explain your opinion
but to properly respond, my personal fav and daily driver is InsertCoin gb2.3.5, been using it since 1.x, and loving it ever since
Been using Bulletproof lately as I'm loving the tweaks menu.
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Been using Bulletproof lately as I'm loving the tweaks menu.
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+1 on this, love the tweaks
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Using Senseless Extreme3.1 as I got tired of Sense. Will use CM7 when it comes out.
No CM7 or MIUI till now Getting bored of Sense now I want MIUI!!!
Sorry for not going into detail.
Think the P3D ROM is great mainly because of the quickness, love the blue neon theme, and so many other things. Check out the features on the above link.
And sorry I'm a noon, but why would they close my thread?
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Android Revolution HD 3.0.4 is the best ROM ever for htc Sensation
Super Fast
Super Smooth
Stable
Good Battery Life
I agree, at one is pretty cool. If I wasn't using P3D I would be using it.
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just because there are several kinds of this thread already going, but i suppose its pertinant, considering how many new roms are available now, and how many ppl have posted so far
I prefer the stock look over any themed ROM. Especially on the P3D. That neon theme is a love it hate it type of thing. Me, I wanna have full control on what I want on my phone rather than habing it themed for me. Same as with the font used on the ROM. Anyways, I'm running the beta 2.3.5 by baad with faux kernel and it's really fast and smooth. Also, I've tried every other ROM on the sensation and so far the stock based, meaning the untouched but deodexed or odex are the fastest and smoothest.
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I have tried most of the ROMs and ended up staying with Energy. It is close to stock but themed just enough to be perfect, and I have never had any problems with it. It gets the best battery life, it's very quick and stable, and best of all the dev is on top of it, any found bug will be fixed instantly.
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I've tried a few roms out. Liked ARHD alot, but got bored with sense. On superlite for now. Looking forward to CM but plenty of good roms out there till then.
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I've tried a few roms out. Liked ARHD alot, but got bored with sense. On superlite for now. Looking forward to CM but plenty of good roms out there till then.
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Looks like all the devs between the sensation and evo3d may have AOSP stable before CM. Sounds like it could even be this week
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Looks like all the devs between the sensation and evo3d may have AOSP stable before CM. Sounds like it could even be this week
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That would be awesome. I'm really enjoying flashing between all these roms available. I don't think CM is the end all of roms but it definitely adds to the variety in a very good way. Nothing wrong with options.
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CM is really cool after all only the battery life ....
My top 3 as of Today...
1. Insert Coin 2.3.5. beta...Fast, Color is amazing, flawless
2. CoreDroid latest....Eye Candy is nice/fast/smooth
3. P3D 7.0 fast/great battery
havent tried LEEdroid or rcmix...
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My top 3 as of Today...
1. Insert Coin 2.3.5. beta...Fast, Color is amazing, flawless
2. CoreDroid latest....Eye Candy is nice/fast/smooth
3. P3D 7.0 fast/great battery
havent tried LEEdroid or rcmix...
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What was faster for you? CoreDroid or P3D? I'm on CoreDroid 2.3 right now and I love the theme, but I feel like it still isn't the quickest ROM and I'm getting in the mood to try a different ROM (CoreDroid has basically been the only ROM I've tried). If P3D is indeed faster I'll try it out since it has its own nice theme.
does the new faux kernel fix all the 3d and gaming issues?
I always go hack to eagleblood Rom.
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Alright, I know this is one of the worst questions to ask on this forum, but I can't help myself.
There are so many choices, and its so hard differentiating them from each other.
So far, I am deciding between hellfire and eagleblood. (Latest ICS)
All I want is the phone to work smoothly. I want apps to load without freezing, and the least amount of lag in general in the phone.
Any suggestions?
Thanks ahead of time.
Try looking through the many similiar threads that were properly posted in the Q&A section.
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Hellfire Phoenix duh
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Hellfire Phoenix duh
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What is the difference between Hellfire Sandwich and Hellfire Pheonix?
Also, a reason I am asking this is because a lot of the other forums are outdated..
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What is the difference between Hellfire Sandwich and Hellfire Pheonix?
Also, a reason I am asking this is because a lot of the other forums are outdated..
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Why don't you do some research? This is such a simple answer. I'm only going to tell you so you don't ask any more obvious ones. HP is based off of Gingerbread, HS is based off Ice Cream Sandwich. If you don't know what that means, search for the answer.
And read the threads in the Dev section, they're not dead.
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okay.. i'll just go ahead and get pheonix..
Good choice as a rom to start off with.
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okay.. i'll just go ahead and get pheonix..
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If you feel battery life isn't up to par, use Bionix Reloaded instead.
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Try both not that hard son
Load as many roms as you want and then try them out ...one by one
EB 4 Life!
I cannot strongly enough recommend running Hellfire Phoenix 2.0 with the ELP Trinity kernel. This combination has given me the utmost in speed, stability and battery life and makes me constantly marvel at how perfectly silky smooth my phone runs. ICS on the G2X doesn't have a proper 4.x.x kernel so it is unstable and buggy as a result.
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I cannot strongly enough recommend running Hellfire Phoenix 2.0 with the ELP Trinity kernel. This combination has given me the utmost in speed, stability and battery life and makes me constantly marvel at how perfectly silky smooth my phone runs. ICS on the G2X doesn't have a proper 4.x.x kernel so it is unstable and buggy as a result.
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I agree I was getting around 26-30 hours with the combo and no issues pretty much... Only thing I was using EaglesBlood 2.3.7...The major thing that caused me back to a stock based rom was the low mic volume, gets annoying hearing people tell me to speak up, although not an issue to all.
I am running ICS (AOKP?) on my G2x, and have installed many apps. Recently I noticed that the phone kind of runs slow - sometimes laggy when I open such as apps as pandora and google docs, etc. That makes me wonder if I should look for a faster ROM. Which one is the fasted? ICS is generally more resource hungry? or Gingerbread could be lighter and faster generally speaking?
Go with an OC/UV kernel instead. You can try faux049b5 or morfics or harsh 1904 or 1504 with OC. They are all good in their own sense.
The respective links of the kernels are in the development section.
Anything besides ICS
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Well, there's a few things we need to know. Who's ROM are you using? EaglesBlood, Hellfire, CM9, Team Kangs? And what kernel are you running? The stock included in the ROM or did you flash a different one?
I'm using EaglesBlood ICS 4.0.3 with stock Faux Kernel. I didn't have that issue. That's one recommendation. Depending on which one your using will depend in other recommendations. If you decide you use AOSP (MIUI) instead I recommend Stormaggedon's ROM's. MIUI.us kept giving me force crash errors for force crash errors for a force crash error for reporting the force crash on start up. Didn't matter how long it sat nor how many times I restarted it.
Try EaglesBlood first. I'm about to clash Hellfire ICS with the harsh kernel. I'll let you know how that runs.
Edit: HellFire ICS with Harsh Kernel works nice. Its smooth, no lag, oh and in the developers settings have kill all apps when you leave them. Try that as well.
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Pretty much all the roms are fast on here. Its what you use your phone for and install on it that eventually start slowing it down.
I know I personally favor the hellfire phoenix rom, but asking or saying which rom is the best/fastest is kinda ignorant as they all are the best for their own reasons.
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I'm running eagleblood1.08gr.zip by far the fastest to me.
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I'm running eagleblood1.08gr.zip by far the fastest to me.
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Your missing one update. He's up to 1.09 now. Oh and um... yeah, GB is slow. Something I figured out when I made the change to ICS. But, I think I'll humor it. Ive been looking for a half decent GB rom. Might try EB's out.
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Your missing one update. He's up to 1.09 now. Oh and um... yeah, GB is slow. Something I figured out when I made the change to ICS. But, I think I'll humor it. Ive been looking for a half decent GB rom. Might try EB's out.
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Are you saying ICS roms are faster then any gb rom?
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Go with any GB rom (CM7.2 RC1 for me with Faux kernel), they are much smoother and faster than ICS roms currently are. I have tried every ICS rom (even with harshs latest kernels as of yesterday) and while they have made great strides I find CM7.2 RC1 to still be much smoother and faster (especially under heavy usage).
trying hellfire 2.1 with faux kernel