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So I'll be coming from a S***sung Craptivate after it killed its own memory, resulting in not having enough room to load a back-up or a fresh ROM after a full wipe. (Phone is actually in two pieces, divided straight across the center) I had the phone flashed with a rooted deodexed and lagfixed ROM (Paragon RC6) and undervolted and stock clock speed (1ghz). I also had a different launcher, text based icons, widgetlocker, basically nothing was "stock" about it, but that was out of need, to fix the shutdown problem, the crappy GPS, the crappy sound, the crappy speed, the crappy lag.. etc etc..
I will be buying a Desire when it is back in stock locally, hopefully with tomorrow's shipment. But I have a few questions...
How much different is everything about modding this phone? I've read the guides and the stickies, and liking the Ingersol ROM (with just a battery notification mod, would like it to be white and turn red below 15% instead of the crazy colors it does.)
I only have 3 questions really... but one or more may become more. Please bare with me.
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
You need to downgrade to get unknown sources back. HTC sense is basically a theme that designed for there phone if I'm not mistaking. The gingerbread themes here are very smooth and good. You will encounter bugs but that will always be fix from the developers
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GTIVRon said:
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
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It only enables the exploit to get S-OFF (think recovery 2e from the Captivate, vs 3e which required signed update.zip's). Once done, you don't have to worry about it again. There are plenty of stock based ROM's like TPC or dilligaf for you to choose from if you so desire.
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
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Sense is more than the launcher, it is a complete rework of the Android framework, like TouchWiz, but nowhere near as craptacular. It is actually useful. Any HTC sourced ROM will originally have Sense in it, but some HTC ROM's that say "no-sense" have a good chunk of that removed and are more like AOSP Android, but not quite all the way. Then there are other ROM's like CyanogenMod, which are based on actual Google AOSP code and have NO HTC software in them. It really is your choice which to use. I tend to flip between them. My personal favorites are CM7 and RCMixHD 5.9.4. I would flash them both to see what your preference is.
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
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They work perfectly, with only the minorest of troubles that tend to be app specific, like the Gmail word wrap issue(which is not even a big deal at all). I haven't used a Froyo ROM in weeks.
And finally, welcome from another former Craptivate user! You will be MUCH happier with this phone.
Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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The only thing about sense that really eats battery is the constant data usage of the HTC sense account, if you don't set up an account, your battery life should be rather good. As far as the gb roms they are all working very well, and you will find a small bug here and there, but all the major roms are very good daily drivers.
Most of the roms here have numorous tweaks for stability and snappiness, and you would probably be pleased with any of the major ones. I would say there is more difference between stock sense and tweaked sense than tweaked sense and no sense as far as performance goes. I ran stock for all of a few hours when I got this phone, and have been on a few roms with and without sense, and all of them have been very snappy and smooth.
Any of the major roms that support clock speed adjustments will use setcpu to adjust it, you can run at basically any speed setcpu lets you(within reason, and check the rom post for exceptions and recomendations) I currently run at a maximum of 1.5ghz on miui and my battery life is just as good as it was running 1.2ghz on android revolution.
And last but not least, don't be afraid of gingerbread here, most major bugs have been worked out and 90% of the problems posted about are due to the installer, not the rom.
Welcome aboard!
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Just an add on note:
Gingerbread sense ROMs do not have overclocking right now. But really they are so butter smooth especially when compared to a captivate. RCMix5.9.3 has no compatibility issues I have found.
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Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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XAviierG said:
Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yes they are. 2.3.3.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Haha yeah I do post a bit. IM always on my phone and its just everything going on and I try to make It simple. Once again thanks for putting that all out
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
It all depends what theme goes with you.
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
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I've gotten better performance out of the GB ROMs I have used. I believe that ROM is based off the leaked GB for the Desire HD which is the same thing as the Inspire, so you shouldn't have any worries about it not being designed for this phone.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Yea, the UD ROM is really good. I've been on it for the past week or so and it is running like a champ. Making it really hard to switch to something else.
Hey guys I've been looking to try another rom.
I've had gingerbeast, leedroid, miui, and now I'm on inspired ace.
I want a Rom the focuses on speed and stability. I want sense and I don't want force close issues. I've been looking at maybe trying virtuous unity, dilligafs sense Rom, or maybe ninja.
I want a Rom that has very few bugs and doesn't necessarily need to be updated all the time.
I should note that I'm very happy with inspired ace but I need more speed and hoping to find a Rom with stronger WiFi.
Eye candy is not a primary focus.
Which do you think should be my next Rom?
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Give leedroid a good great ROM.
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Very happy with clearDroid.
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thanks but, i dont want to know just which ones you like...i could easily search for the popular ones...
i would like to have recommendations for the criteria i listed, just one that you have tried that you think will work well for me.
thanks guys
You have tried all the best. /shrug
What ever.
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Give leedroid a good great ROM.
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um, i already tried leedroid...
worked pretty good, but i want to try more roms before i can say that that is the best one for me...
CoreDroid hands down has the most/best features and you can always expermient with the kernels (unity and Lee's) to see which you prefer. Both are great kernels.
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Virtuous. Do it.
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I loved virtuous but I'm trying cleardroid for a while see how this goes. So far the battery life has been amazing.
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Try Ingersoll.
Fast, stable, near stock experience...performance with no bells and whistles.
Still one of my fav ROM's even though I'm running with the Beast currently.
I love virtuous unity 1.25. Auto CPU dameon, tweaked sense 3.0, stable fast and good battery life to boot.
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I've most recently tried Virtuous and it looked good, but the audio (phone calls) sounded terrible. I'm not sure if I missed something, because I only flashed it to get a quick look at it. Maybe there was a fix in the OP or something specific to my device. Either way, I haven't heard other people with the issue and if I wanted Sense, that's what I'd want to run. Sense 3.0 is nice.
yea, i would like to try sense 3.0, so i think ill give virtuous a try
thanks for the feedback guys, ill revive my thread if i find it missing things i really want
I didn't see anyone recommend Android revolution. It's an optimized stock Rom. Very stable and doesn't update as often as others. Give it a try.
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Ingersoll is pretty legit, I bounce from that to cm7, currently using Unity and It's pretty great except for battery drain and seems laggy at times and that could also be operator error
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I've most recently tried Virtuous and it looked good, but the audio (phone calls) sounded terrible. I'm not sure if I missed something, because I only flashed it to get a quick look at it. Maybe there was a fix in the OP or something specific to my device. Either way, I haven't heard other people with the issue and if I wanted Sense, that's what I'd want to run. Sense 3.0 is nice.
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I installed it last night. Loving it so far, but I had to install the audio fix; as you said, the sound was crappy, but the audio fix took care of it. So far it's great. Best data speeds I've seen since Inspired Ace.
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Virtuous
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I've run most every ROM, multiple times, for Sense, Virtuous Unity is the most trouble free. Lee, Core, Clear, AR, all had some issues for me.
For non-GB, Ingersoll is very, very good.
If you are having audio trouble on Virtuous Unity, it's most likely a kernel issue, not a Virtuous problem. Clear data, cach, dalvik and reflash. The audio is perfect on that ROM.
Might i ask where the audio fix is thanks
Trying to get feedback the best gingerbread rom that is out on XDA at the moment since there is no Gingeritis and Bamnf.
You can get gingeritis and bamf from their respective websites.
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You can get gingeritis and bamf from their respective websites.
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I know that. Just trying to see what XDA has to offer that is still here for the t-bolt.
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Trying to get feedback the best gingerbread rom that is out on XDA at the moment since there is no Gingeritis and Bamnf.
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Cyanogen Mod, better than any ROM out there in my opinion.
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Trying to get feedback the best gingerbread rom that is out on XDA at the moment since there is no Gingeritis and Bamnf.
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That is like what asking what is the best food in the world lol...everyone has different tastes and opinions.
Liquid thunderbread takes CM7 and one ups it with less bugs, even more custom settings and better benchmarks. Otherwise if you use the same launcher on both roms they are strikingly similar (custom setting are just under liquid settings instead of cyanogen). For sense roms I have always ended up using chingy's roms (perfect storm, then 2.1 gingebread and finally 3d gingerbread)... and yes I know those are no longer an XDA rom but since the ASOP roms (when all the bugs are ironed out) are better than any sense roms (functionally) I really needed not mention any sense roms lol.
Honestly no one can tell you what the best ROM is. These thunderbolts... all of them seem different and all respond different to each ROM. You're going to have to run them for a week or so and figure out for yourself which one is best for you, and works best with your phone. I for one can not get GB BAMF to run smoothly on my phone. Best 3.0 sense for me was Gingeritis 1.1. I run CM7 and dream kernel as my daily driver and have had very few issues with anything.
In my opinion Pyrimid3D is the best ROM going around, and Ive tried quite a few.
Get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1206746
Be sure to vote for it if u like, and donations are always welcome.
it is really quick, but expect this thread to get closed almost immidiately, there are already a few of these around, and you didnt really explain your opinion
but to properly respond, my personal fav and daily driver is InsertCoin gb2.3.5, been using it since 1.x, and loving it ever since
Been using Bulletproof lately as I'm loving the tweaks menu.
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Been using Bulletproof lately as I'm loving the tweaks menu.
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+1 on this, love the tweaks
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Using Senseless Extreme3.1 as I got tired of Sense. Will use CM7 when it comes out.
No CM7 or MIUI till now Getting bored of Sense now I want MIUI!!!
Sorry for not going into detail.
Think the P3D ROM is great mainly because of the quickness, love the blue neon theme, and so many other things. Check out the features on the above link.
And sorry I'm a noon, but why would they close my thread?
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Android Revolution HD 3.0.4 is the best ROM ever for htc Sensation
Super Fast
Super Smooth
Stable
Good Battery Life
I agree, at one is pretty cool. If I wasn't using P3D I would be using it.
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just because there are several kinds of this thread already going, but i suppose its pertinant, considering how many new roms are available now, and how many ppl have posted so far
I prefer the stock look over any themed ROM. Especially on the P3D. That neon theme is a love it hate it type of thing. Me, I wanna have full control on what I want on my phone rather than habing it themed for me. Same as with the font used on the ROM. Anyways, I'm running the beta 2.3.5 by baad with faux kernel and it's really fast and smooth. Also, I've tried every other ROM on the sensation and so far the stock based, meaning the untouched but deodexed or odex are the fastest and smoothest.
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I have tried most of the ROMs and ended up staying with Energy. It is close to stock but themed just enough to be perfect, and I have never had any problems with it. It gets the best battery life, it's very quick and stable, and best of all the dev is on top of it, any found bug will be fixed instantly.
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I've tried a few roms out. Liked ARHD alot, but got bored with sense. On superlite for now. Looking forward to CM but plenty of good roms out there till then.
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I've tried a few roms out. Liked ARHD alot, but got bored with sense. On superlite for now. Looking forward to CM but plenty of good roms out there till then.
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Looks like all the devs between the sensation and evo3d may have AOSP stable before CM. Sounds like it could even be this week
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Looks like all the devs between the sensation and evo3d may have AOSP stable before CM. Sounds like it could even be this week
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That would be awesome. I'm really enjoying flashing between all these roms available. I don't think CM is the end all of roms but it definitely adds to the variety in a very good way. Nothing wrong with options.
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CM is really cool after all only the battery life ....
My top 3 as of Today...
1. Insert Coin 2.3.5. beta...Fast, Color is amazing, flawless
2. CoreDroid latest....Eye Candy is nice/fast/smooth
3. P3D 7.0 fast/great battery
havent tried LEEdroid or rcmix...
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My top 3 as of Today...
1. Insert Coin 2.3.5. beta...Fast, Color is amazing, flawless
2. CoreDroid latest....Eye Candy is nice/fast/smooth
3. P3D 7.0 fast/great battery
havent tried LEEdroid or rcmix...
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What was faster for you? CoreDroid or P3D? I'm on CoreDroid 2.3 right now and I love the theme, but I feel like it still isn't the quickest ROM and I'm getting in the mood to try a different ROM (CoreDroid has basically been the only ROM I've tried). If P3D is indeed faster I'll try it out since it has its own nice theme.
does the new faux kernel fix all the 3d and gaming issues?
I always go hack to eagleblood Rom.
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I've been using ****AO5P for a few weeks now and it's absolutely amazing. I don't really know what else to ask for, but is there anything better out there?
Well shiftsense was just as fast and had the same battery life but I recently switched to bamf 1.0.7 and I like it. Lots of mods and themes and same speed, not amazing on battery life but that's okay
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I too use BAMF, on double shot right now love the landscape mode on home page.
If I helped you in any way please use the thank you button
I've tried a bunch and have settled on BAMF 1.0.7
i've tried em all, but sticking with cm7 for now.. i loved bamf forever, but switched a few days ago because the call answer and sleep of death bugs were too much for me to handle.
ShiftAOSP for AOSP Rom and my rom for a sense Rom.
how do you run two roms at the same time?
Synergy for me.....the latest build is working awesome for me. Was on bamf soab but the "end call" bug kinda scared me away, other than that it was a good rom. Synergy just works for me
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how do you run two roms at the same time?
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Lol nandroid is my friend we go way back!
I guess my fav is stock rooted. I'm in bamf now and it has some really nice features but I don't see any big advantage over stock rooted. I'm going to try to give bamf a week b4 I make up my mind though.
I'd love an open source rom but I keep reading about one bug after another. I like everything to just...work.
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i've tried em all, but sticking with cm7 for now.. i loved bamf forever, but switched a few days ago because the call answer and sleep of death bugs were too much for me to handle.
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If I run into either of those bugs I'm back to stock rooted. I went into bamf tools and chose 2.1 lock screen so I hope that will prevent the end call bug.
The sleep of death bug wont bother me too much as long as it is very rare and the phone can be turned on. Sleep of death to brick would be bad
Sig says it all...
My name is Revos I'm a recovering flashaholic running Liquid Gingerbread 3.0
Running BAMF SoaB now with Imo's Kernel, and I am VERY impressed!
Hey OP the dev of shiftao5p is gonna get made when he sees you calling it ****AO5P.
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I was running Bamf Forever 1.0.7 But Wanted to try CM7 Haven't Went back! Using Imo's Lean AOSP Kernel Overclocked to 1.4Ghz I'm set! i just miss the sexyness of Sense 3.0
Nice typo.
Signature.
Son of a Bliss is awesome. If you like sense 3.0, you'll hate it after you try a sense 3.5 Rom. I always hated 3.0. Too laggy. Sense 3.5 FLIES!!!
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BAMF forever, smoothest sense rom out there IMO
I was never an AO5P fan but when i tried SHIFTAO5P HACK3ED and i absolutely love it. However i was a Bamf fan when i first rooted, switched to Infused Theory and loved it when 3.0 was added so i think i will have to try 3.5. I have seen videos and it looks good. Link? im not seeing it in xda, he move like theory did?
Edit: nm google told me
wow his list of bugs looks annoying? =/ ill try but i think it will be a 1 day thing. thats not to say ShiftAO5P Hacked doesnt have bugs but i have foud a few but i can live with them.
Yeah I began with minibamf which was vanilla also then I started messing with cm7 mods and stuff fell.in love, as I progressed I thought shift ao5p hack3d was great but this new romicied iBolt Tom based off OC he aforementioned rom is SOOOOO FAST
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