[Q] Proper break-in and cycling - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I have been using one battery that came with my first NS4G that I had to return because of a softkey issue. I forgot that I had the original battery for the second one. The one in it now doesn't seem to be breaking in and giving excellent battery life like everyone else is talking about. So, my question is: How do I cycle both of these batteries(the newer one I would probably have better luck with) to get better life out of both of them and swap out later if need be?
I don't know much about breaking in new lithium ion batteries, but most of the googling I have done ends up being a site that just wants to sell me their batteries instead of inform me about how they work and how to properly care for them. I also think it may be a little more device specific in this case.

There is no need to break in LiIon batteries that I am aware of.
Since you had bad luck googling:
http://batteryuniversity.com/ is an interesting read any day.

cgi said:
There is no need to break in LiIon batteries that I am aware of.
Since you had bad luck googling:
http://batteryuniversity.com/ is an interesting read any day.
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That is chocked full of great information, thank you. I didn't see anything about breaking it in either, I have just seen several posts that talk about it. Maybe I will just use the newer battery for now and see if there is a difference in a few weeks.
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Inspire 4G Batteries..

Thought I would start a battery thread just to see what everyone thinks. I have noticed the battery is 1230 mah and thats a little small for my taste. I have heard nothing bad about battery life, but thought I would start this thread to throw some options out there on where to buy hi-cap batteries. Also if anyone has experience with a site or certain make of battery, that is made for this phone POST IT UP. I haven't really been able to find anything.....
I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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I guess I'll reply to the earliest thread.
You haven't heard anything bad about the battery? I have heard a whole bunch of bad things about the battery. I have also heard a whole bunch of decent things about the battery which leads me - and I'm sure many other android users - to believe that with SMART management and usage, there is no reason the battery shouldn't last one day.
If there was a proven extended battery greater than 1300mah on the market right now, I would have had one ordered and delivered to my doorstep already. However, because of the hardware design, this may prove difficult for manufacturers.
My plan is to get the phone, set it up, possibly root - and then evaluate if the battery is adequate - as many had said it is. If it is REALLY bad, I mean frustrating, leaving me stranded in a bad part of town with no cell phone... then I will return it.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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Thats kind of what I had planned as well. I may also put a rom on it if they start coming out soon enough, because they have obviously shown to drastically improve battery on many many devices. BTW did find a couple batteries on ebay, up to 1600mah but obviously there is no way to tell if they are worth a dang or not.
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They're not worth a dang from what I've read. Crap manufacturers label batteries as they'd like - good luck proving them wrong.
I'm looking out for a legitimate battery, not from ebay, that is over 1300mah. Will post if said battery is found.
I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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I saw a review of the seidio "extended" capacity battery for the dhd and results were not very good. The battery is listed as a 1600mah, but it's true capacity was only about 85% of what it was rated. That percentage fluctuated as well and was some times as low as 70%. The HTC batteries while only being 1230mah were close to 95% of it's rated. So it seems that the stock batteries are the best choice.
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Looks like I may be purchasing a stock battery, and a car charger.
well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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well, I've read that the desire and inspire are basically the same phone, if that is the case than I know, personally, 4 people who own this battery and have said it adds about 2 hours of life with moderate to heavy usage.
www(dot)londonmagicstore(dot)co(dot)uk/Batteries/HTC/Desire/AIO+Extended+1500+mAh+Battery+for+HTC+Desire+HD.html?osCsid=be86d09457ce6d650eb205623ed98a23
If it doesn't have the same battery, then I'm sorry for the post.
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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Well i see they ship to the Us, but what about payment methods?
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I think you just pay them... it will convert US to pounds.
I ordered a pair of jeans from France this year and you paid as you would anything else... it just converts the euro into US and thats what it takes from your bank.
I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I would invest in extra chargers. I picked up an inspire today and that battery door is almost impossible to get off. It would be an act in frustration to try to change that battery even once! From what I have seen the battery is holding up pretty well. I crushed the phone for a few hours and downloaded about 20 apps on wifi. The level dropped of course but it held up better than my Nexus one is holding up these days.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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I bought a couple of extra micro USB cables and I"m thinking of getting one of those portable emergency batteries.
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^ That is one option I've used with good success. And the extrernal battery is just a USB connection so I can use it for lots of stuff. It recharges the internal battery at the same time, an added bonus.
I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
Do where can we buy the dhd batteries from?
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I am thinking about switching to Inspire from HD2. Can anyone confirm that the Inspire 4g uses same batteries as HD2?
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no they are not the same.
So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
man i need to get an extra battery
I ordered a spare from an AT&T corporate store today. The receipt lists it as 1400mah. I assume it's going to be the stock 1230 though. We shall see in a few days.
Link please?
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So what's the biggest desire hd battery that we could use in the inspire?
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Your best bet would be mugen 1300mah battery. That's the one I am using and last 1-1.5hours more than stock.
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NEVERMIND! ill recieve help else where

I just read the whole intire (every single freaking word) thread about official batterys in the accessory thread,and it delivered no answers. It seems as if the people in that thread would rather argue,than help the movement and find the best alternitive. Does anyone know of a battery for the inspire,that would deliver better battery life?
I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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I have tried this aswell. Could not find answers ... being a heavy user , I did the next best thing. I Installed a ROM which gave me a good battery life. I am currently using Gingerbeast and I am pretty happy that it gets me through most of the day. This is 'my' solution until a decent battery with bigger capacity comes in.
I am sorry this is not the answer you were looking for... however , it may help someone who may want to go that route!
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Yeah i def plan on rooting and flashing whatever sense rom there are,that was gonna be my next step after i receive the phone tomorrow. I know with my old cappy there was a rom that conerved battery and boosted my battery life by atleast 3 or 4 hours a day. Amazing what the devs can do,but me,im a VERY HEAVY user but im only using my phone from around 5pm until maybe 2am because of my work shcedule. I just hope a better battery comes out. My whole past week consisted of 2384720589 million google searches and reading through 84573809 million threads to see if i should get an atrix,or an inspire and i chose the inspire. After all the android phones ive had,i want this one to be something that makes me wanna stick with it for my 2 years. ehh,we'll see
If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
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If you guys want good battery. I have my wife's inspire running inspired saga rom using the 12.35..... radio and using juice defender and she avgs 1d 4hrs on one single charge with the stock battery. Just thought i would share that. Also it is 100% stable.
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Yeah, I am using juice defender as well. Not a fan of the fact that it toggles my data on a schedule ... but hey... it sure helps.
Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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Yeah , some replacement battery is sure to come along ! Right now, you are probably better off flashing the right rom and working with it a little bit. I am sure when a genuine/ good quality high capacity battery comes in.... we will surely see the "OMG...Inspire's new battery can power my house" threads
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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The thing is, due to the design of the phone, there's not a lot of wiggle room to make a larger capacity battery.
A larger capacity battery has to be physically bigger in size. That works for phones that have the battery on the back side of the phone, because you can provide a modified battery cover to accommodate it.
The inspire, not so easy, as it slips inside the phone, from the side, so the only dimension that could be enlarged is the length.
A little more length *might* be possible, but it would be a tight squeeze, and probably wouldn't result in that much of an increase in capacity.
Better to try to focus on optimizing the phone with the existing battery, by way of roms and such, as mentioned, instead of holding your breath waiting for some dramatic advance in battery technology to appear that allows more juice to be stored in the same physical space.
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is the evo's battery thicker or wider? i know the evo's wont work but i know it cant be too much bigger
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The only possible way to get a larger capacity battery would be very tricky. It would require a battery door that had power posts to contact the battery contacts, while maintaining connection of the required contact points on the battery door. Sounds simple enough, but trust me, the development and production costs of said battery would prolly far outweigh potential profit. As a result, I don't think we'll ever see one those type batteries. I suggest following the advice of the other members previous replies, as their insight is that of a Jedi Master. More like, we are Droidi, they are Droidi Masters. Lmao
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Why couldn't they just stick a battery pack that attaches to the back of the phone, and have a wire with a little adapter that goes into the normal battery spot. Make a rubber case to go around it, and hot dang, ta-da you're done.
For me, I use an iSound 8000mAh battery that's about 2 pounds, and cost me all of $80. A bit steap, but being able to fully charge my phone a handful of times on the go makes it worth it to me.
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Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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Hooray for deadheads. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing these threads pop up and stick on the first page of the forums in the DHD and Inspire sections. If you have seen how the battery goes in there, there is no way to stick a new one in there without some serious R&D. There have been a number of efforts on xda attempting to dispel the myths that state a battery that's identical in physical volume to the stock battery can hold any more juice. That's a boldfaced lie until something better and more cost-effective than Li-Po comes along. Even the giant batteries that say "3500 mah" usually have 2,xxx mah. I used to not care about the latter because I could make my Wizard, Hermes, Kaiser, and Rhodium last for two or three days on a charge for $10 on ebay. I testmed my "2800 mah" batteries and they were anywhere between 1940 and 2300 mAH, but it was still worth it to me until I got my Rhodium and figured out HTC made an official 2,150 mah battery and door that I tested and sent to xda member "Dougie" to test with a more accurate method than mine and it tested at exactly 2,150 mAH. Stock HTC batteries usually test around 95% of their rated capacity.
I don't want to write a 5 paragraph essay on the chemistry of Li-Po batteries, so please take it from a battery life freak that a larger battery in this phone is impossible. The best they'll be able to do is things like the iPhone's Mophie Juice Pack. My solution is that of the previous poster in that I bought an 8,800 mAH battery that weighs a couple of pounds that I take with me when I go camping for a week or two and use the phone for satnav with satellite imagery. It takes a while to load on GPRS, but who cares when I've got 10,000 mAH of juice? For outdoor sessions greater than 14 days I have a few photovoltaic panels and a waterproof project box to get it to 5V. It'll charge the big battery in about 4 days of direct sunlight as long as I don't uberkill the battery and have to 'shock' it back to life.
Yet another thread on battery. Sigh.
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Sheesh, you use your phone *that* much? I mean, how about a couple more stock batteries and an external charging dock?
Two pounds is a bit more than most people want to lug around.
The type of setup you suggest sounds like the rigs we used to use to power our portable DAT recorders to tape Grateful Dead shows.
Whatever floats yer boat, but that starts to remove the portability of the device.
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I've seen that type of setup work on some equipment where I work too. Except professionally done so that its housed right and doubled nicely as protection for the devices.
As for the external battery, it isn't much in weight for me, but I tend to go everywhere with some kinda backpack on, or a laptop bag, so to me its just there. Plus when I'm at work, all the outlets are in areas that I'd have to either duck under my desk to mess with my phone, or buy longer USB cables. I just go with the battery, more so since I can use it when out of the office and there isn't any outlets around. Same with like on a plane, at an airport, etc where outlets are crowded or not as enjoyable to work with. Plus the case I have the phone in requires I use a knife to get the stupid thing open, which means changing batteries is ten times the work as plugging in a USB cable.
if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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if you think about it. a few years ago everyone probally thought it was "impossible" to squeeze so much into a phone and make them as thin as they are today. but as technology evolved the manafactuers have put alot into the thinnest phones on the market. so i believe that within time they will make a battery for us thats the same size and has more mAH. just my opinion,others may argue but i mean,when dulecore proccessers came out im sure no one thought we would never see a phone with all that squeezed into a cell phone. never doubt the possibilities
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Oh I have no doubt the technology will improve, more juice in a smaller space, kinda like hard drives... Somehow they always manage to get more into the same space.
Just not in time to be an alternative after-market battery solution for this particular phone.
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i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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brd912 said:
i read through the whole entire other battery thread,and it did not answer my question. it was filled with arguing abd people trying to prove there "intelligence". i just wanted a "no,no decent after market battery yet" or and kick towards the rite step which i recieved. no need to post in the thread no more with the complaining over "another battery thread". xda is built on the threads and each user receiving help so that maybe they can help someone else out. damn
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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Truely........yer answer was available in every battery thread. Whybdid you think this thread would be less then those? Same thread type, same answers........
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No,people gave bad reviews of battery and argued the fact if there will be a better battery. My question was has anyone found one that boosted it at all. Any,whatsoever. I didn't post in that thread because I didn't want one of those rude asses to jump down my throat. So as I have the right,I started my own thread.
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So then to answer your question. I have not read, heard or seen a battery that will do any better than the original. Best bet at this point in time is to by a spare or carry a charger with you.
I have experience much better battery life with custom ROMs vs the stock ROM.

HTC battery improvement procedure

There is a battery conditioning procedure recommended by HTC - probably would work with any battery
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
The above is a cut-and-paste from the G2x forum, which also was a cut-and-paste.
Is this for any HTC device or for Sensation or any LiION in general?
Is this only for one time or everyday?
Personally, I don't think it will work.
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one time.
it takes a while to do so do the 8 hours overnight, but it did improve my battery life a lot and same with everyone in the g2x forum who tried it. also it was said to do a factory reset before doing this procedure. with a full charge. but it was not part of the procedure that HTC made , the OP post. a factory reset is always good to do on a new phone IMHO though.
This should definitely work. Batteries develop a 'memory' and I always go through a similar process when I first get new devices. I discharge them completely. Then turn them off to charge completely and then discharge completely once more before normal use.
Battery "memory" only applies to the Nickel Cadmium days. Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory effects:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lithium-ion-battery.htm
"If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined."
that is correct. li-ion batteries do not have "the memory effect". but this does seem to help setup the battery for best performance. it's been tested and tried at the g2x forum where i came from, and this method was released from HTC. someone just pasted it over on the g2x general forums since initially the battery had some serious issues. try it and repost. whats the worst that could happen? full battery?
This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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Plus, what is HTC doing making battery recommendations for LG devices (G2x)?
i tried this, it helps. here is the original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 it was from an evo4g user
ps. i think that the phone some how is not giving the % of the battery correctly. i have notice if i charge the phone and as soon it says its charge i unplug it, the battery drains quickly. but if i let it plugged about an hour after its says that is fully charge the power consumption its really good. it last in average like 16 hours with normal use.
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This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
i think you're right bro. just read that link. seems like that appears like the original. more info there too. im gonna save that. thanks
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
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Actually you are the troll and ACTUALLY your post does say that it's recommended by HTC and actually this isn't news. It's bump charging and actually it means that you'll have to replace your battery sooner. And actually it's one thing to say that something works and one thing to say that it's a recommendation from the manufacturer of the phone.
Trollaz dey gon troll
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This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
Dolphinwigs said:
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either.
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Are you calling me a troll because I post a link about battery facts?
Hey OP, thanks for the post. It all depends on your preference anyway. Btw, do you really think we needa factory reset our device? Cos I got a lot of apps installed in my device which are not from market. Thanks in advance.
zmfl said:
This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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Very mixed bag "analysis". For so much effort he failed to answer the most basic questions.
Does bump charging the battery once provide a capacity advantage that persists? If so, how much of an advantage? Is it the 15% quoted figure? If doing it once only lasts a while then how often should it be done? And how much would that actually shorten the battery life? If the normal battery life is 1 year, and I can get 15% more capacity each day but shorten the life by 2 months I would bump charge. If it cuts the battery life in half I would still be tempted, since OEM replacement batteries aren't that expensive.
What would be useful is a graph of bump charging frequency, percent increased storage capacity, and battery life. With that information we could make rational decisions.
When we can root our phones, it's best to charge the phone on the new rom and delete batterystats.bin and let it drain to 0%
That way android knows what is 100% and what is 0% and how many volts it is.
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i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
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I think that you should edit your OP so that it does not say that bump charging is recommended by HTC, especially because it can and will lead to damaging your LI-Ion battery's overall lifespan and because it simply isn't true.
This is akin to creating a thread called "HTC phone improvement procedure" and then telling everyone that HTC recommends that they flush their phones down the toilet. Most people probably wouldn't believe you but it'd be pretty terrible if someone did simply because they believe that an experienced forum member wouldn't post mistruths that could lead to damaging their device or components of it, and claim that HTC recommends it.

LG G5 Extended batteries from third party sources?

Alright. Just like what happens with many smartphones, third party sources have started releasing batteries with a little more juice than the Original LG Batteries of 2800mAh. I have to admit it, i was kind of counting on it because it happens a lot of time. But how reliable could they be? Would NFC work with them? Will it make our phone explode? From 2800mAh to 3250mAh is 450 more juice to drain. Has someone tested it? I've posted the link and a couple of pictures.
Links:
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Yifa...qid=1466065770&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+g5+3200+mah
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Extende...801116?hash=item281a5a0d5c:g:hsUAAOSwjXRXX5q7
If you have tried any similar please share. I'm sure many people will be interested to know :good:
Good luck with that company 1 star and arrives mid to late July from China. No thanks original LG battery and charger 35$ get it in a couple days
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I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
lilhaiti said:
I just recieved two of them from Ebay. Charged one in the charging cradle, took a little longer than the stock battery. Installed it in the phone last night and will report on my findings. Everything seems fine so far.
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
WAIDroid said:
On my Thread I found one that has 3600mah found at AliExpress
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did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
joseguillen1994 said:
did you buy it? How was it? but there is something odd with that one. They sell 5 pcs for 30 dollars? there is something off
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I have the G4 and I'm sure you can find one for just 1 pcs
Here's one from brand TQTHL which I would trust as I have 2 for my G4 and both work great
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Can you please also try the NFC feature if you have another phone with NFC capability? And also, whether the SOT improves or if it remains the same. and finally, in comparison to the other battery, how long does the phone last , based on your average usage (say: wifi on/off, usual brightness or auto brightness, etc. ) Let us know. Thanks
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I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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lilhaiti said:
I have tested for two day and although I haven't gotten any numbers to prove it...the battery works great. It does last longer with the same usage...but I wouldn't say that the difference is huge but it does have a little more endurance. I'd say that if you are looking for an extra battery...this is not a bad choice especially just to keep as a spare. Everything works fine as well.
Also...it may take a few cycles to get the battery calibrated...my first discharge I was disappointed because it dad extremely fast but after letting it run down and charging it a few times it seems to last a little longer than stock. I'll leave the battery in for a while and if I get time to collect screen on before I charge it I will.
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I think one would see a real difference if it had 900mah ane up more than usual. I was kind of expecting for that though. Hahaha. But i have the feeling they will release an eveb bigger one. Something like 4000mAh+ but you have provided us with great detail. Thank you. If you have the SOT in the future feel free to provide if
I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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I doubt we will see anything much larger in the same size. Batteries have limited capacity/cm3, and LG, being one of the best and largest battery manufacturer, maxed out on that value. The problem here is the physical size of the battery cell...
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Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
BR7fan said:
Actually Zerolemon emailed me and said they are working on a battery for the G5 as we speak. They can be miracle workers lol
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They managed to do that by replacing the back cover with their own "case", including an extra-size cell. The G5's different battery removal mechanics make it a lot less viable option, especially adding the bottom module (which houses not just the USB connector, but speakers, microphone, and some antennas) as a cost.
My original comment was directed at the allegedly 3200/3250mAh cells popping up for 5-10$ a piece. There's a reason why official LG cells are 25$, and these after-market ones cost less than half of that. Sure, LG needs to cover the development costs, but I'm pretty sure the after-market ones are so cheap mainly because of corner cutting. And that comes with extended hazard. But if you feel like ruining your 600$+ phone because you went cheap and paid 10$ instead of 25$ for a battery... It's your call.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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I have been following the forum site for lg g5 modules development and untill now no one has has stepped up with the idea (no one that would have the knowledge to start building a module for the g5 at least)
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They could create a module similar to the Cam+ that has an 'extra' battery in it. Maybe slimmer but further up the case.
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It's just a matter of time and I think lg should be the one to do.
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Yeah I could see someone make a module that has a slim but like a little bit more mah
Check out this thread I did for the Sensation (ages ago). It's not relevant to this phone, other than to say that you'll recognize some of the labels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1753726
The TLDR: Actual mAh was was tested reliably (external discharge, outside of the phone) and batteries with the same label style as the two linked in the OP actually had roughly 30% and 50% of their stated capacity, and much less than stock.
I've got a G5 coming this week. I wouldn't be against doing another thread like the one I did in 2012 on the Sensation, if there's demand.
I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The mixed reviews are in part my fault. I'm one of the reviewers with that battery and for some reason Amazon will not post my updated review, I've tried 3 different occasions to post follow ups but they won't post.
What I learned with that battery is it works, only it does give me the invalid battery message and the phone shuts off but only if I reboot the phone at 100% battery life, upon booting the phone reports 50% charge and shuts off. You have to restart it a couple times until it's used a percentage or 2, then it boots fine. I emailed the seller about it and they responded with the cells are tested and they only use quality parts, they sent me another battery but that one does the same as the original. With the issue with the note 7 and other phones/chargers I stopped using the battery. It might be perfectly safe but I can't determine that and the risk is not one I am willing to wait and see. Here's a link to another topic here on XDA where I responded about this battery.
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I have this one coming, so i will let you all know what i find. There seems to be mixed reviews, and even my Stock Battery had to be calibrated up/down charge for 3-5 times before i had good life.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IHBVKIY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So, after the first full charge and discharge to 11%, I'm getting very good times better than stock. This will probably increase with a few more charging cycles. My opinion is this battery is definitely more mA. I will review more when later.

[Question] One S (ville) replacement battery in 2017

Hello there, I see that there are multiple replacement battery offerings on Amazon, and I was curious if anyone had any experience with them.
I was looking at: https://www.amazon.com/2300mAh-Repl...sr=8-1-spons&keywords=htc+one+s+battery&psc=1
Which is a non-OEM battery
And I was also looking at: https://www.amazon.com/HTC-35H00185...=1513958021&sr=8-3&keywords=htc+one+s+battery
Which is an OEM battery.
However, the reviews of the battery provided by HTC would lead me to believe that perhaps HTC is reselling old/used batteries from devices that may have come in for repairs. I was hoping someone could shed some light on it.
I have experience of using 3rd party batteries in other phones, namely a BlackBerry Z10, and I haven't had any issues in the past. I was just looking for some recommendations from the community. Thanks
I've been browsing old posts on here looking for solutions to this same problem (finding suitable battery replacements or even upgrades for this device).
So far the verdict is still out whether upgrading to a bigger battery will actually yield better results. Some say bigger batteries do provide better battery life, others say it's no different from the stock unit (purportedly since the phone can't utilize any more than the stock 1650mAh), and some say it's much worse (may be due to faulty/rubbish packs).
Most people say that One X and even One X+ batteries fit in the HTC One S, though some have encountered various, minor problems in doing so. 3rd-party batteries seem to be a mixed bag as well.
Curiously, One X and One X+ batteries are actually slightly cheaper than One S batteries, haven't got a clue as to why.
Most of the posts discussing this topic is from 2013/2014, so there's not a lot of data from newer builds of Android (with Project Volta) in conjunction with fresh battery packs.
I hope others can chime in on the matter as well, would very much like some suggestions as to what would be the best course of action.
Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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Okay, just installed a new 1800mAh battery (One X (BJ83100) OEM battery on discount). I'll let you know how it fares in the near future after having done a few full cycles on it. It proved to be quite a challenge to get it installed, but hey, everything seems to be working fine, for now at least.
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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I'm so much interested if it runs properly... I love this terminal
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Well, to follow up on my previous promises;
Battery-life seems to be heavily dependent on the particular usage patterns and the specific ROM. I wouldn't say battery life's much better than with a new, stock battery, perhaps marginally better. It does take quite a while to charge though, and in most cases it won't be able to fully recharge without being shut off. Though that could also be due to the charger that I used.
I took a few screenshots of the battery section to get a rough estimate of the endurance of the battery, but due to other, unforeseen circumstances, I'm not able to retrieve them at this moment, though they did look promising!
Long story short - it'll work fairly well, but just go for the original battery, if you want it to work properly. As previously mentioned, I only went for the One X+ battery due to it being heavily discounted.
Hope that helps clear things up!

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