How come iphone's battery outlasts android? - T-Mobile LG G2x

I've had an iPhone 3g and I've had a g1, mytouch 3g, Samsung vibrant, mytouch 4g, and now a g2x and no matter what I do my battery life is no comparison to what I got on my iPhone I could play fieldrunners all day and still not need to charge, right now I'm using faux newest oc UV kernel, juicedefender ultimate, set CPU w profiles, background data & auto sync off, no led touch buttons, I also lowered the screen brightness to 0% while inside and 25% if I need it outside, I also lowered the capacitive buttons brightness to the lowest level before they do not light up, what else do I need to do to get my battery on par with the iPhone, other than that apple can suck it.
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good luck. ithink the main culprit is that your iphone 3g doesnt multitask asnd therefore doesnt continue to have apps constantly running in the background...i could be wrong though

I was going to say....because it can only do one thing at a time. It is dumbed down and not as powerful.

The iPhone 4 is a lot better on battery as well, me and my buddy went fishing and charged our phones before we left and were playing games, calls and text... I was at 50% after 6 hours and he was at 72% and made more calls then me. My guess is the dual core using a lot of battery especially in heavy graphic games. I'm okay with it since well android is better IMO, and his lol. He wished he could do what I can with android...

Yes I was saying that my iPhone 3g was good on battery the 4 could only be better so the gap between battery life is even greater, I'm just saying we got a top of the line dual core beast, but we have to carry the charger around.
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I never understood why so many people complained about the battery life on Android phones. I have had 3 Android phones including my current G2X. I went from the G1 > Nexus One > G2X. The G1 was good for a short time. It was cool being the first Android phone. Loved it at first, hated it eventually after it got real sluggish and slow. The Nexus was a ****ing beast and never got slow or sluggish. I kinda wish I kept it, but it's ok. The G2X is a better phone.
As far as the battery life though, i've had nothing but good experience with battery life for the most part with my Android phones. I think the worst was the G1 at times. My Nexus One had great battery life. My G2X has good/great battery life. I think if you're using it a lot throughout the day, it's bound to die down. It IS a battery, no? The only time my battery has drained is when I used it a real lot. Connecting to Wi-Fi and viewing websites, videos, music, games etc.
Other than that, the battery is fine when I don't do all that. There has been a few times here and there where the battery seemed to die quick when I haven't done much, but it hasn't happened many times at all. Not enough for me to get angry about it.
My battery is at 61% right now and it has been off the charger for 13 hours. I haven't used it a real lot today, just here and there during work. Browsing some websites and stuff like that. That's more then good enough for me.

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Look at the size of the iphone battery.

I'm just saying if android is gonna demolish the competition, they need to get battery life up to par, its easier said than done though, there's on 1 iPhone and like 300 androids.
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The Sensation is the first Android phone I have used that can last all day on a single charge. That's with normal all-day use. Every other Android phone I have used has been dead by 2pm or earlier.
The last iPhone I owned was an unlocked 3gs. It barely made it past 3pm or so before dying. At least with that phone I had a Mophie Juice Pack Air (external battery case) whereas with the G2x and other Android devices I was usually left waiting while it charged.
I do not think manufacturers concern themselves with battery usage for most devices. Android itself isn't all that bad. When left disconnected from any network it lasts as long as devices with different operating systems. It is as though applications access the Internet too often, unnecessarily so, causing battery depletion both in use and not.
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krolla03 said:
Look at the size of the iphone battery.
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That explains allot.
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i can get 17hrs on my g2x no problems...
also the i heard the iphone 4 doesnt even have a 1ghz proc, but i could be wrong.

I think that it has a lot to do with iOS's closed system.

Why? Because it does more, so you use it more. The real key to good battery life is the apps and widgets you use.
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Despite all its flaws, Apple does use very good hardware. As in some of the best in the entire world.

Battery life is higher because it really isn't doing anything past what you are currently doing that present time. It doesn't do background data nor true multitasking. Simply put, if you turn off all your background data on your phone and didn't multitask, you'd see a tremendous increase in battery life. I've turned off background data for a day once just as an experiment and you'd be surprised how much that can increase your battery life. The thing is, it also makes the phone a lot less useful. For me, my Sensation makes it through a day with heavy use pretty well and on a gingerbread rom my g2x lasts a day. I don't need my phone to last me more than a day as I charge it every night. Sure I'd always like more battery life, but not at the cost of functionality (like the iphone).

first time I've seen a pic of an iPhone battery

IPhone sucks period.
G2x with CM7 and faux kernel. NONSENSE!!!!

Androids battery sucks period.
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kdunn1994 said:
I'm just saying if android is gonna demolish the competition, they need to get battery life up to par, its easier said than done though, there's on 1 iPhone and like 300 androids.
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True...but oh yeah, android is already demolishing the competition
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well, Android is known of bad battery life. However, it is not so bad. I can get 15 hours+ out of my G2x on average. The battery comparison also varied on what size of battery you have in the phone and how often you used of the phone. So there is not a really fair comparison around. It's will be based on user preference. If you liked iOS, then use iPhone, if you like Android, then use Android phones.

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Is the D2G worth it?

Like the title say.
Is it worth it over the htc desire, dell streak and the nexus one?
I need a phone that support umts 1900 mhz and I'm deciding between those at the moment.
For the moment I'm inclining myself more to the d2g for the faster cpu, but in close second is the nexus one just for the better updates.
Well spec wise the d2g is the best of the bunch. Are you in the US? If you are, chances are you won't be able to use this with gsm technology, its locked from US carriers, but you can use it with international gsm carriers.
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No I'll be using outside the US. I know is block to US carriers. The only thing concerning me about this phone is some of the complains I have seen about the battery life and some heat issues.
The phone can last you a day and then some with moderate use, my d2g never gets hotter than 100F, or 35C
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After reading a lot on the heating issues. It looks like the problem is when you are using 3g data that heats the cellphone.
I'm deciding between this and the nexus one.
Haha, I'm always on 3g and I'm always in the range I specified, I guess some people might think that's too hot, but I guess they've never used an amd laptop
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lol maybe.
I have seen some pretty scary temps, some guy even got 118 f. It looks like the problem is software relate it. Maybe you don't have the problem because you have root and you are using fission.
I use my D2G in GSM/UMTS mode only outside US. The highest temperature I've seen reported in logs is 41 deg C. Battery lasts between 8 hours (heavy use), 12 hours (moderate-light use) and 20+ hours very light use. Under moderate use I mean normal activity with screen on for aprox 2.5 hours. These numbers I get since the recent OTA update. Before that - about 15-20% lower numbers. Update increased battery life.
I would be worried.. I was one of the persons who reported the heat issue and battery life. Here is the thread:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/293031
I switched to the DX and I can safely say it doesn't get as hot after 1hr of 3G data..the D2G would reach 104F in 10mins after just streaming a online radio at 128kbps ..all my findings are in the thread above. Just read through it and make your decision. It's a great phone though, I just had minor problems.
Nexus is a year old. It wouldn't be a step in the right direction. D2G is great and will exceed your expectations.
Heat/battery life/etc. are all user-specific symptoms. You'll experience things based on how you use your phone.
Expect a 1.2Ghz chip to get warm. There's not a heatsink or fan in there!
nexus one overclocked to 200mhz doesnt get so warm...oh well I suggest a Nexus S if you gonna sign that dotted line.
my d2g lasts me all day with ease, and ive never seen the temp above 37C, usually right at 35C
botnryan said:
my d2g lasts me all day with ease, and ive never seen the temp above 37C, usually right at 35C
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What are your usage stats? This is mine on my DX:
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My D2G died after 5hours with this usage..
5 hrs of voice calls is quite a bit for one day, youre usually only awake like 16 hours a day...jesus lol.
mine goes like this:
display:32%
android system:15%
adwlauncher ex:11%
beautiful widgets:10%
phone idle:7%
Cell standby:7%
pure messenger widget:5%
android os:3%
handcent sms:3%
facebook:2%
media:2%
phones been running for 9 hours and im at 30% battery.
done alot of messaging and phone calls today so this is actually atypical for my phone. usually after 9 hours it would still be around 50%
botnryan said:
5 hrs of voice calls is quite a bit for one day, youre usually only awake like 16 hours a day...jesus lol.
mine goes like this:
display:32%
android system:15%
adwlauncher ex:11%
beautiful widgets:10%
phone idle:7%
Cell standby:7%
pure messenger widget:5%
android os:3%
handcent sms:3%
facebook:2%
media:2%
phones been running for 9 hours and im at 30% battery.
done alot of messaging and phone calls today so this is actually atypical for my phone. usually after 9 hours it would still be around 50%
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I had alot of calls that day..plus conference calls for business meeting.. I slept like a baby the following night lol..On avg, it's 3-4hr display on time, 1hr voice calls and the phone is dead after 20hrs..
But yea, your usage seem minimal..you should select Display and Cell Stand by so we have an idea of how long your screen has been on. Maybe media, facebook as well...
display on:2h 1m 20s
cell standby on time:10hr12m42s
time w/o signal:0%
im still on 30% battery btw
fb:
cpu total:1m44s
cpu foreground:1m15s
data sent: 139.35kb
received: 1.00mb
media:
cpu total:1m31s
foreground:1m14s
So besides the overheating issues some have seen, is there anything else wrong with this phone. I'm thinking of switching over from a HTC Droid Incredible.
I've been having too many issues with the Incredible that I want off of it. And this phone looks to be the best Android phone on Verizon with a keyboard that I have seen.
Well, there are few issues that D2g has that you must be aware of before taking the plunge:
1. Exchange push email is broken. Motorola is working on fix, but its been quite a while (months) and still not fixed;
2. Battery life is not great. Be prepared to recharge mid day if you are heavy user. Or buy ext.battery which partially addresses this issue.
3. MP3 playback suffers popping and skipping. Issue is still not recognized by Motorola. There is still no good and free workaround for this;
4. Phone doesn't really perform great in UMTS mode, even update Motorola issued mid December breaks it even more.
Sorry if this sound discouraging but I believe everyone should be aware of these facts before making purchasing decision.
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leobg said:
Well, there are few issues that D2g has that you must be aware of before taking the plunge:
1. Exchange push email is broken. Motorola is working on fix, but its been quite a while (months) and still not fixed;
2. Battery life is not great. Be prepared to recharge mid day if you are heavy user. Or buy ext.battery which partially addresses this issue.
3. MP3 playback suffers popping and skipping. Issue is still not recognized by Motorola. There is still no good and free workaround for this;
4. Phone doesn't really perform great in UMTS mode, even update Motorola issued mid December breaks it even more.
Sorry if this sound discouraging but I believe everyone should be aware of these facts before making purchasing decision.
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I've never noticed #1 and 3 on my d2g, maybe its just the stock music player that does this, im using the connected media player made by motorola and I absolutely love it, I use it to play music when im at the gym. I also use push mail for my .edu address no problem.
The battery life improved with motorola's update, that and using set cpu and droid overclock to underclock and undervolt, you can get a lot of battery life out of this thing, I get a little over 3 days on one charge, and I have 2 batteries so that's almost a week I can go with no charging. I hate the fact that signal strength sucks in gsm mode, I don't know if motorola can fix it, might be a hardware issue.
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1 - push email works unreliably. Sometimes it works, others- phone can go for hours without receiving email unless manually refresh. Email poll works fine, it is PUSH that's broken. There are plenty of discussion about this especially on Motorola's official forum.
3. It is the built in player that sucks. PowerAMP from market does not have issue, but costs money.
Update 2.4.330 does not really do anything good for battery life. At least I haven't noticed difference. It surely breaks GSM support, at least in my case - using Unlocked on Rogers Canada.
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it's failure by design..

One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
I make it through the day no problem, and with LTE on. First few days were terrible, but things seem to have improved drastically since then.
Take it back. Threads like this show that it's not for everyone.
Example - I have a car dock, I commute, I work on a comp. all day, easy enough to charge at home. I've never had this battery life issue everyone is talking about.
miketoasty said:
First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
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uhhhhhh what? The majority says the battery sucks. Where have you been?
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I have read WAY more posts about good battery life than I have bad. Where have you been? Yes, there are occasional posts about it but the vast majority after a little bit of tinkering have said good battery life.
My personal experience.
Took my phone off the charger at 96%. Used the GPS on a hour drive, sending texts and listening to music the whole way. Ate some dinner while continuing to send texts. Went to a hockey game and took ~30 Pics. Used the GPS to get back home with music and finally put the phone back on the charger. Time off charger 7 hours. Battery percentage 82%. Only 14% decrease with what I would say is some pretty moderate use.
One thing I actually thought was funny is I pulled out an old Sammy flip phone to see what size battery it had. 1100 mah. 5 years ago they were shipping dumbphones with 1100 mah batteries. Come to present day, a phone with 4G, a 1 ghz processor, and a ginormous lcd screen has a bump of 300 mah. Is something wrong with that?
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miketoasty said:
First off I get plenty fine battery for a phone as fast as this with LTE. The large, bright screen is just a bonus. If you are getting bad battery you have yourself to blame if you would read these forums as almost everyone here is getting great battery life.
Also, your battery size complaint is terrible, the droid X has almost the same battery and runs fine as well. The LTE right now is the killer, verizon has admitted it so either switch to 4g or 3g only and stop flooding the boards with this crap.
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I don't want to sound like a jackass, but I bought a 4G phone, not a 4G phone I need to use in 3G so I can make it through the day. In the end I just bought the extended battery. Solved all my woes.
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If I can figure out how to go 22 hours with 43% remaining on my phone with moderate to heavy use, than sure as hell you should be able to get at least 12-15 hours out of the phone, not knowing half of what I know.
cause that is all that matters right, making it through the day for how long your awake, so for most people 12-15 hours, then you are home and can plug it in.
who cares if you make it home and plug it in at 5%, it still lasted you all day.
I've done the 5 tips for better life, and thou it has a improved.... its a minor improvement. the phone is with out a doubt sweet, im just pissed bc i cant get a full day out of it. i work for 8 hours and leave the friggin thing in airplane mode, then on my way home i listen to music with it still in airplane mode subway kills it mad quick....i do and dont wanna bring it back i want the newest thing out, im coming from a OG moto droid.. 50-60 bucks for a goddamn battery that makes your phone last longer and turns it into a potential weapon...data/voice together is the only feature right now that is making it hard for me to decide if i should bring it back or not.. i got it this past Saturday i have 8 more days to decide, not to mention vzw wants the 35 dollar restock fee now. who remembers when they had the 30 day test run??? lmao they stop doing it because people kept bringing phones back within the period...
my phone definitely lasts me the day, but i don't think it would last the 10 to 15 hours that others are reporting. i already turned the brightness down to about 25 - 30 percent, turned off unnecessary widgets and sync'ing plus i set setcpu to throttle the cpu down to lowest speed when the screen is off. as such, i'd like to know what others are doing to squeeze so much battery time out of their TBs.
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
I'm getting awesome battery... My phone has been up for about twelve
Hours now and I still have about 45 percent... Heavy usage texting music internet and xda posting.
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TBJared said:
Custom Rom and Kernel seemed to help my battery life a ton. I can now easily make it all day with moderate to heavy use on stock battery. From the battery monitor, it looks like the screen will eat the most power, be sure to keep it set low. The underclock/volt while screen is off uses hardly any batter power and is really nice as well.
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On all Android devices the screen is the battery eater, except on 2.0/2.1 with Exchange Sync issues... then it could hang and eat the battery.
I've never really had an issue with battery life. That's not to say my battery lasts longer, i just use different methods to keep my devices alive.
AA USB chargers have always been a good friend of mine, as well as plugging my phone into my laptop while it's in my backpack.
I can't wait for an external battery charger to come out for the TB, then you just have 2 or 3 batteries and swap them out as needed.
But if you're expecting more than 8 hours or so off of one charge they're right, you may look for another device
Yah man, 3 hours of navigation, with music going, many calls, 3 hours of internet use, txt & talk and LTE and 3G switching through out all day because of traveling . I was really heavily using the phone with an extended battery but made it just over 24 hours... Try trading it in for another battery. Your not Wifi tethering all day as home network are you?
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Well take it back then. Try a blackberry out. Oh yeah those things have even worse batteries and the bis always fails.
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. Blackberries are known for having excellent battery life. I had 12 hours 40 some odd minutes and was at 69% last night when i plugged my TB in to charge. I really don't understand the problem.
edit: proof, this was a few hours before i plugged it in.
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Stop whining about the phone. If you don't like the phone, take it back. No one here is forcing you to keep it.
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One would think by now, that after HTC put out the evo and other large screen devices they would have better batteries. Also not to mention the thunderbolts delayed release. No we waste more on extended batteries, and have no cases to protect the dam thing. I've tried all the tips out there for tweaking the battery to get max use and it still sucks. I'm still in my 14 day trail period and I'm thinking of bringing it back. I'm just pIssed companies have the nerve to do this BS!
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You bought a device with a 4.3" screen and a brand new radio technology. Honestly, what did you expect.No phone out there with a screen that large has what could be considered great battery life. Sure some are better then others, but these are not BB devices. And while we are at it, lets be realistic here... if they put in a bigger battery you would be in here complaining about how large and how heavy the phone is.... You can't have everything, something has to give at some point.

Got a Bolt battery complaint? Read here...

I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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Different radios, different processors,different screen types = different power consumption
I did notice on the stock fimware before i rooted that the idle usage was virtually nothing. WAY better than my vibrant was. It seems since ive rooted and undervolted ive lost some battery life, but man the performance is so worth it.
Anyway, we are carrying around full computers with broadband speeds. im not complaining about battery life.
RogerPodacter said:
The only thing I'm confused about is I thought the latest HTC sense was super efficient. I tested the HTC inspire stock ROM with the current widget. And idle power draw was a mind blowing 1mA, sometimes 3mA. That is just superb standby power. Same improved snap dragon CPU, RAM, etc I'd think the thunderbolt would be the same.
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If only.
My Bolt's (stock, rooted, custom rom, whatever) idle drain is about 36-40mA with bounces up to 90mA quite frequently.
Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
I had good battery capacity when mine was stock. It would last all day. Now if I played with the thing constantly it wouldn't. Using it here and there, I would never hit yellow.
I have tweaked it to get more batt life. I keep the screen on low setting unless I am outside and can't see it. Keep GPS/BT/WIFI off until i need it, and I shut the screen off when I am not actively using it. If you go under information, the screen uses the most battery life. Nothing to do with sense. Even GPS didn't come close to the screen usage. So I make sure the screen is off unless I am actively using it.
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Ok guys I apologize. A week ago I setup the current widget on 2 thunderbolt units here at the local Verizon store. Both collected data for a full week.
I just looked at the data and both phones stay at 34mA during idle time. Day after fly, over and over the results were identical, on both units. And they stayed on during the night too!
The bad part is that I did the same on the stock inspire at ATT, and that phone hit 1-3mA doing the same idle use. Which is a superb result. My nexus one stays around 5 mA.
So no wonder the thunderbolt sees worst battery life. You are gonna have to try a different ROM, or remove the crap stuff running.
Interesting though, perhaps Verizon has something running on the ROM. Go stock!
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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Hmm, that's not good. I can confirm that both my Nexus One and nexus S draw about 5mA. Any thoughts on what might be causing the bolt to draw 7 times the amount of power. Is there any way to monitor it?
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I really don't know what the reason is other than to say its just the stock ROM. In the other battery thread multiple people posted saying their thunderbolt only hit 30mA during idle. So I was skeptical but not anymore. Particularly because both working devices I checked had such damn similar results, both a little over 30mA. And there was a ton of data, from 2 devices, matching what this forum claims. Only suggestion is use another ROM.
Related story though. Previously I used the same ROM install for 5 months on my n1, and at the end the phone would only hit 50mA during idle over night. Presumably from just months of my data, app installs, etc. Clean flash took it right back to 5mA. Even with all apps re installed. So there is something to lots of crap loaded. Anecdotal, but proof enough for me.
the biggest battery hog for me is the screen, as long as you turn it off when your not using it and keep the auto - lock to 15s battery shouldnt be an issue for anyone
ALso, Juice Defender Beta has been updated on the market, and works well with the TB now.
I'm running the Virus Rom with Adrynalyne's 4.1b Kernel and I **** you not, last night I left my phones screen on (because its set to never dim but I should have the app control that now that I think of it) for 8 hours while I slept. Woke up and looked over at my phone lying on my nightstand with the screen on, picked it up and it was at 20% battery left. I think I passed out when it had 80% but I can't be sure (damn this Kraken Rum)
Either way. People with battery life complaints. I...I pity you.
I'm gettin 12 hours out of my TB
That's about the same as I got off my OG Droid
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I'm getting about the same as my d1 running gingerbread. I'm still getting the extended battery too though. VZW is giving it to me for 18 dollars...
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I think the biggest complaint can be summed up this way. For HOW the Bolt was shipped, most people feel that they shouldnt have to tweak ANYTHING for it to last them all day. I, to a point agree, however, with that said look at any new computer. Can you pull it out of the box and just run it? Sure you can and it will work well for the AVERAGE user. Now, someone with more knowledge will want MORE out of their computer. Its the same with the battery life. Those of us that use it MORE will see crappy battery life. Why? Because were using it more.
Tips/tricks/apps and what not are for people that are going to use their phone MORE than the AVERAGE user will. My mom gets two days out of her Droid 2 before she has to charge it. ALL of her settings/themes/everything is stock out of the box and never bump charged. My sister has the EXACT same phone and was getting a single day use out of it. I installed JD on both of their phones, and my sister gets a little over a day and a half and my mom gets about two and a half days. My mom RARELY touches her phone while my sisters constantly using it. Two separate users, two separate charge times. One gets amazing battery life, the other complains about how short the battery lasts.
So, if you use your phone more than the AVERAGE user, expect below average battery life. This phone IS a battery hog, I will say that, but then again, my phones in my hand and Im playin with it every chance I get. ;-)
On this one, both parties are right and wrong. So agree to disagree, take the steps to get better battery life or move on. Its getting redic with the amount of threads there are dedicated to this topic.
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO WHEN YOU GOT THE PHONE.
Here are some links for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027802
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdE4xPfL8Fs
http://www.verizonwireless.com/thunderbolt-trade-extended-battery-2750-mah-cover.shtml
http://androidforums.com/htc-thunderbolt/300920-post-ways-get-awesome-battery-life.html
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
If anything you should see improved battery life since the newer snap dragon is more power efficient, etc.
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disagree with most of this. i had a droid x prior and am using this device exaclty as much as i did that one. my battery life if HALF what the x was. and before you ask, i've had 4g toggled off continuously for the last week and have seen only marginal improvement.
i realize the t-bolt and the x have different processors/screens/radios, etc, but all-in-all they are pretty close performance-wise when i comes to everyday use. i can see the t-bolt having marginally worse battery life than the droid x, that would be a reasonable expectation. but HALF? sorry, not buying it.
i can't think of any other explanation than that the firmware
htc pushed out on this thing is flawed. not a dev though, so maybe i'm dumb...
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
No battery complaints here. Half on 3g and half on 4g. This is with the htc extended battery. Running chingys rom with ziggy's latest bfs kernel oced to 1.49. Kik running the whole time.
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You can't compare the X to the thunderbolt. The X has a bigger battery to begin with, so you can't judge power efficiency based on uptime.
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In the end, were talking about the Bolt, not the X. The X in this case is 100% irrelevant. You can disagree all you want, but my point still stands strong.
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i'm not following you logic here. the droid x is a direct competitor. we're talking apples to apples here. it's significantly better in the battery area. i had an original droid before that and it was much better. how can that be irrelevant?
your notion that "this is just how smartphones are. you knew what you were getting so deal with it" is just plain wrong. we are discussing whether the battery life on the thunderbolt is a weakness or not. look at posts #5 and #6! you're telling me that's normal?
the idea that there are more people praising battery life on this thing than are complaining about it is wrong too. pop over the the htc forums and see the number one beef is over there. go into a verizon store and mention "thunderbolt battery life" to a tech and watch them roll their eyes.
bottom line: the thunderbolt is great in a lot of ways, but for a large percentage of us the battery life is pretty crappy, and for no good reason.

So...Was the Thunderbolt worth it? Battery the main issue?

Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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Theres answers to all your questions already if you look around and read a bit and theirs already Custom roms/kernals with undervolted cpu to increase battery life.
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If you read my thread i stated that i have searched and read a lot of reviews. I just want honest answers whether the people that have bought this would buy it again.
Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
DroidTh3ory said:
Well worth IMO... I change phones ALOT, and I have had ALL of them. I don't see myself leaving the Thunderbolt anytime soon.
Why??? Fast and ****, both phone and data, my bluetooth keeps my music playing through my truck even if I take the phone into a gas station with me, GPS is fast and solid as a rock, Speaker sounds great, screen is superb (dark and light), call quality is excellent, and for the past few weeks I have had it.... NOT ONE stall or hiccup. I'm sold.
I honestly can't say there is anything I don't like.
After switching the Kernel and conditioning the battery I see more than adequate life... For the record, I shut nothing off, I didn't by this beast just so I can shut all the good stuff off. Somedays I get a little buckwild and tap into my car charger but otherwise... No complaints.
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I got to agree with DroidTh3ory 100%
I too have had just about all the high-end and many low-end android phones.
I must say hands down, there is no other device that can compare to the sheer quality of build, and its down right stupefying speed.
I have 0 complaints to make about the battery, yea maybe its slightly not as great as other phones, but like that picture above, it will last you all day.
just to add, im running mine at 1.4ghz undervolted.
Thunderbolt is worth it imo, but I am thinking about getting extended battery. I need to constantly check my email and voice calls so I'm going to be losing juice much faster than the average user.
Aside from battery issues, this thing is blazing fast. Imo faster than atrix
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Build quality has been great (just like my DInc) and there are a TON of developers that are creating ROM's for the device. Soon, CM7 will be out for it and I think there are a ton of people looking forward to that.
As far as battery life goes, it's a 4.3" screen and it's a 4G device. Complaining about battery life on this device is like buying a GT500/Viper and saying you love the speed, you love the features, but you just hate the gas mileage. It's par for the course and if you use the phone a lot, your battery life will suffer. Flash a better kernel and you can improve it somewhat though. FWIW, I can get a full day out of it and honestly, that's all I need.
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Are you in an 4g area? I don't think my area supports it as of yet. With moderate use your getting through a full day with the battery?
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Well with all this 1 year contract stuff coming to an end i've noticed that I may need to switch from my Incredible to a thunderbolt. I love my incredible, esp flashing the many different roms that have been created. I've read a TON of reviews and everyone pretty much says its super fast, similiar to evo, and the battery sucks. Let me ask you this, when new roms emerge will custom kernals and such save the battery life? Is the battery life compared at all of a TBOLT to a Incredible? Right now im running warms z with chads 12/23 kernel and im seeing a good full day with more usage than an average person (always have wifi,bluetooth off). Should I take the 1 year contract plunge before the 17th of this month? Or maybe buy the Tbolt and put on ebay with just 1 more year to use my current incredible? And please tell me your daily usage and batt. life currently with your Thunderbolt. Thanks, and yes i've searched a ton.
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I when from the Htc Droid Eris to the Thunderbolt and the 1st few days encountered "battery issues". I haven't rooted the phone yet but i did those tips on changing a few settings around and i unplug my phone at 8 am when i leave my house and plug it again when i get a notification that is at 25% at around 11:30. i use it a good amount of time during the day and spend my lunch break (about and hour) just surfing.
Once the phone is rooted there are A LOT of things that you can do to improve it even more. My advice do it yesterday! lol.
P.S. Btw i live in NYC and have not noticed any 3G, 4G swapping between services, it has all been 4G.
Im getting the itch. For the most part though verizon is forcing me to sign another 1 yr contract bc they are cancelling it on April 17th. Its gonna be weird to be stock until some solid roms and kernels are developed.
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Yep, smack dab in the middle LTE spread for my area. Emails, texts, calls, alot of Navigation, and my Bluetooth is almost always connected to my truck so I can rock out. Even before the Kernel switch I made through the day, but after the switch I have some to spare for those REAL busy days.
FYI, I conditioned my battery on the first day with my first 3 charges.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Did you use a APP to condition the battery? If yes which one? I have rooted my Thundy and waiting for CM7.
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Yep, the Battery Conditioning App (link below) works great... Wiping the battery stats in Clockwork does the same thing also but I like this because it deletes the "batterystats.bin" system file without having to restart, and the OS can't create a new one until the battery is conditioned (reboot).
FYI... You need root for this.
Download from here... Plus info>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
Nice, seems very convenient... Thanks for the link!
I'm getting great battery life on adrynalyne's new kernel and ROM. No regrets switching from my D1 running CM7 with prime's kernel. Would love to see prime dev on the TB as his was the best kernel for my Droid, but I can't complain at all with how I'm doing
Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
It's the US 4G Edition of the HTC Desire HD...what's not to love? When the Inspire was one month in after release, there was hardly any dev at all except a complicated gold card root method and now its got MIUI and a lot of other rom choices... This phone hasn't been out for even a month and we've got simple root and strong dev support... I've also owned a Dinc and a bunch of other devices and I'm quite happy with my Thunderbolt
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Dude...the phone is totally worth it. I've just installed the new Das BAMF 1.4 with the new Adrynalyne kernel, and my battery life is teriffic! Phone has been unplugged for 13 hours, and i'm still at 65%
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Put me in the +1 crowd.
Battery life was horrid, as expected, out of the box. After rooting, getting rid of bloat and running a cpu throttle I average around <10mah when idle. Not to say that it doesn't suck juice when I'm using it, though. But, it's well worth it. The phone is fast as hell.
Build quality is nice, as well, as others have stated. Would have preferred a sliding battery door and a red/blue/yellow led but I can live without.
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Woah woah woah you're getting less than 10mA idle current draw? Can you explain exactly what rom, kernel, and settings you are using? I've tried just abouteverything I can and i bounce between 36-40 with frequent spikes to 100. Thanks.
I think its well worth it. Yes, battery life is far from great. However, its only slightly worse than what I experienced on my Samsung Epic. I'm in a 4G area the majority of my day, but sometimes travel outside of it for work. Coming from Sprint and being used to unlimited data, I use my phone all day. I listen to music, whether Pandora or iheart radio (my trucks stereo recently just stopped working ) all day traveling between job sites, check email quite frequently, txt and gtalk literally all day long, and make about 25-30+ calls on average a day. I also have all 4 of my email accounts set to check mail every 5 minutes for work during the hours of 5am-10pm every day, which i know contributes to my battery drain, but its necessary that I get my mail as soon as possible for my business.
Considering my usage, I think the phone handles quite well. Yes, I wish it was better, and yes it does drain quickly at times, especially in the morning even if I change some settings. However, I keep a spare battery on hand as I have done with all of my past Android phones. I have no regrets about buying the phone, except for the video recording issues I've experienced. If you love Android and rooting, I really don't see what their is to think about.
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I'm looking to get a thunderbolt today and was wondering how has every ones battery life been. I'm making the switch from a ip4. So I hope doing the right thing. iOS is just getting so stale I want something new. So has is your battery life once u rooted and on the stock battery.
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I'm looking to get a thunderbolt today and was wondering how has every ones battery life been. I'm making the switch from a ip4. So I hope doing the right thing. iOS is just getting so stale I want something new. So has is your battery life once u rooted and on the stock battery.
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Battery probably around same or slightly worse, but its 4g and 32 gig, its easily rooted, alot of different roms n looks, its really great, and ive only had 8 days. I am a advanced flasher also, done roms atleast 1000 times.
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Thanks. If I can root n get at least 8 hours min. I'm fine. I'm just getting tired of the whole apple experience.
Thats easy, on most 2.1/3.0, aosp, overclocking not necessary, i can get 10-12 hours, n i dont care, i got 3 chargers. Its a good phone imo. U can run 3.5 with beats easy on this phone, but 2.1 with sound enhancer is just s good.
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I can get around 7hrs on stock and about 16hrs on extended. Running ICS ROM
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It depends on how u use it.
This is what I have left after few calls, browser, exchange+gmail+Facebook sync & 1 hr of Pandora
Only MIUI ROM so far I could achieve this. The other rom Ive tried is shiftao5p
Lastly if u are in 1-2 bars area, your battery will run out fast
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I'm new to the Tbolt as well. Installed the extended battery first thing. As such, device easily lasts all day with heavy use. 40%+/- remains @ end of the day on cm7.
IDK about the battery life on other ROM, but that's what I get.
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I bought the rezound battery and noticed a pretty big difference. Also, I finally gave up sense roms and went with liquid smooth 3.2. Battery has been phenomenal. I can get through an entire day, even on 4G and moderate to heavy usage (screen on 4 hours) and not worry about battery until I'm in my bed messing around before I'm about to plug in and fall asleep.
Edit: here is me on wifi all day using up the battery with almost 4 hrs screen on time. On pure 3g 4G I'd be closer to 20-30 percent.
My GF has the extended battery and can go two days without charging (light use)
Loving the phone by by iPhone but anyway. Just rooted and messing around with these roms. Just don't know which one to stick with their are so many.
I'm on the stock rom and with light usage can easily get a full day out of a charge (I'm using the rezound battery now, but was similar with the stock battery). With very light usage, i can even make it overnight and through at least most of the next day on a full charge. Gaming, navigation, or a lot of downloading can run down the battery quickly. My so has an iphone4s and doesn't seem to get a ton better battery life.
Rezound 1620 battery standard battery door. Can't beat these numbers....
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Rezound 1620 battery standard battery door. Can't beat these numbers....
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Out of that whole time how many hours were u using it.
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Out of that whole time how many hours were u using it.
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Almost 5 hours of display on time. Mix in about 6 hours of sleeping but lots of Texting, rootz, xda, and Twitter. Imo kernel undervolted not overclocked, and 12 hours were in a bad signal area at my work in hospital I am talking -102 so battery could be better.
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I get around 8-10 hours on fairly regular use and towards 12 when I use it lightly. The biggest difference maker for me was not JuiceDefender or any battery saver program like that. It was using SetCPU once I rooted my phone and setting a profile up so when my screen is off, the processor drops to the ~200 MHz range. Definitely a must-have program for anyone who is rooted.
i keep everything running at max and carry a second battery pack with me... ill just swap them and am back to 100%... 2 full loads bring me through the day usually.
I suggest you to check this post and these batteries. This will solve any power issues you might have with your Tbolt
The rezound batteries work in the bolt also.
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root + SetCPU
Pretzel pretty much hit the nail on the head. Once I rooted the phone I froze all of the stock bloatware, then installed SetCPU. Like Pretzel said, make it so when phone is asleep it only runs @ ~200mhz. Also do small things like turn screen brightness down and make backlight timeout 15 seconds.
Also, I cannot stress this enough
Your battery life will drastically change depending on what apps you have installed. When I download a new app I try to limit it to one at a time and watch my phone for the next few hours and see if my battery is running out quicker than usual. This has happened so many times to me where I install something with a 80% battery and then like 4 hours later its dead.
So with just the stock Rom, rooted, bloatware frozen, SetCPU, and about 60 battery friendly apps, I can get usually around 20 hours with light to moderate use.
The biggest difference on battery drain is if you have LTE enabled. Just download LTE OnOff and only turn it on when needed.

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