**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm disappointed at the fact that we have to wait so much for this to happen I hope the devs do it first
I've learned my lesson and will be getting the next Nexus. I miss ROM-flashing.
Juste see that via Twitter, good news
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Good news..Can't wait to flash roms!
I am glad they have finally officially said something. All the immature posts flooding their Facebook wall annoy me. Although, they will probably still go on.
It's stupid to have to wait 2 months to make our phones really OURS. I'm disappointed about that.
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DATE is all I needed.
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AWESOME!
Is the Bell Sensation a global sensation?
i.mac said:
AWESOME!
Is the Bell Sensation a global sensation?
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I think by global they mean unbranded.
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I think by global they mean unbranded.
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Oh yeah, makes sense.
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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nice. very good to hear
mouzaihem said:
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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Probably, probably not. I was looking yesterday at the Atrix forums, and i tihnk AT&T Atrix's could have their bootloaders unlocked, while Bell Atrix's couldn't. So we'll see when the time comes. :/
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Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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I should hope so, but who knows what wrenches HTC/Phone Providers might be able to throw into the mix.
I'm still more thrilled about a possible XDA unlock than by an HTC unlockm which could and in all likelihood will come with some sort of strings, warranty voiding ones, attached.
It's good to know that HTC isn't backing away from the promised unlocked bootloader. It's just a matter of time.
I would like to thank so many people for this:
I would like to thank my mom, dad, sister. Without you guys I wouldn't have the patience to go through with all of this.
I would also like to thank the big man: Carl!
mouzaihem said:
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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Don't think so. Any kind of modification to the update package would break the attached signature.
Kinda disappointed for the long wait...
Now let's see how many times this gets reposted
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I really don't get some people. For weeks countless people have been whinging that HTC have not set a time frame for our bootlockers to be unlocked, now today HTC make an announcement setting a time frame and people still whinge.
We all bought the phone knowing that the bootlocker is locked with the understanding that in time it will be unlocked. Which is what HTC is doing. Personally I would rather wait until after extensive testing for the update to hopefully work correctly instead of a rushed update full of bugs.
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I really don't get some people. For weeks countless people have been whinging that HTC have not set a time frame for our bootlockers to be unlocked, now today HTC make an announcement setting a time frame and people still whinge.
We all bought the phone knowing that the bootlocker is locked with the understanding that in time it will be unlocked. Which is what HTC is doing. Personally I would rather wait until after extensive testing for the update to hopefully work correctly instead of a rushed update full of bugs.
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I bought the phone knowing it was going to be unlocked one day. However, never owning an HTC device before, I quickly noticed how big of a drag Sense really was. The in store demos don't really work enough since it's not like you're going to login and customize everything. But once I had everything up and running I REALLY saw how much I prefered the stock experience. So I put the phone to it's side and kept the Nexus One as my daily driver.
However, with this announcement of unlocked bootloaders I will not return my phone like I previously thought.
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Guys, I've read it about 50 times in the past 24 hrs - MAYBE HTC will re-consider their bootloader locking policy. My question is very simple - HOW WILL IT AFFECT PHONES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED???? Will we get S-OFF too? How?
i don't think it will affect desire and incredible s, they are too old now and the main buying hype is already in the past
dunno if htc cares so much about them to unlock
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i don't think it will affect desire and incredible s, they are too old now and the main buying hype is already in the past
dunno if htc cares so much about them to unlock
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You're **** kidding me... the phone (Desire S) was launched 2 months ago and is already old????
well WHEN will they unlock the bootloader? Evo 3D coming, Sensation here.. they got enough new things on the market in that time they won't care about the DS anymore
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well WHEN will they unlock the bootloader? Evo 3D coming, Sensation here.. they got enough new things on the market in that time they won't care about the DS anymore
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You lack enthusiasm...obviously you don't own a DesireS.
We'll going to make sure that HTC will going to attend to our needs. So much so, it will going to be in their faces.
yea i don't got a desire s, just got a DS lying in front of me and was the first who found the way with misc_version to downgrade if u read my posts
or maybe it's a stealth & shrinked incredible s / desire hd, who knows?
i hope HTC will not lie to us (Desire S & Incre S owner)
and they will release OTA update that can unlocking Bootloader
just like SE
poor my Saga
there's so many reason to root
why lie geek_seeds? they never said they will unlock it
this guy only posted 100 times that thay MAYBE will REVIEW their bootloader policy... that means nothing and only makes wrong hope
Could be,
But if we all call the helpdesk maybe then they will lisen`t.
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
that's it!, bang!
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"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
that's it!, bang!
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where's the link for this statement.. can you share it?
i read it too,from htc facebook
http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
Does that mean the existing phones will get a OTA update for unlock?
Let's hope so.
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http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
Does that mean the existing phones will get a OTA update for unlock?
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HELL YES .. or il be soooo goddamn mad at them.
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:O
great. i thought they won't do a thing
Even if they do release an ota with an unlock, those of us with carrier branded phones may never see it.
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Does this mean that if ur desire s is S-ON which mine is, it will also be unlocked to S-OFF?
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Does this mean that if ur desire s is S-ON which mine is, it will also be unlocked to S-OFF?
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Yes, but they have not been clear on this whether they will unlock the phones already on market. Future ones for sure..
P.S. I am a Desire S owner and would love it to be unlocked.
Yup, he says "on our devices"
Htc has just confirmed that they will not lock bootloaders so here is a big cheers to htc and lets now get this sensation... going lets all thank htc the same way we bashed them..
""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
edit the sensation will be unlocked via ota
"HTC Customer Support Yes, in a future update. Please check our website in the coming weeks for the update!"
If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
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Just about to post!
Really glad they did that
What about people like us already bought from Vodafone with locked device? Any chance to unlock it soon or not?
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If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
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it is true i will edit my post to show what was said.. sensational
Now that's what I call customer service!
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Now that's what I call customer service!
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not only customer service they opened the bootloader i open my door and allow the sensation into my house and htc is always a welcomed guess in my house.... lol well the sensation is gonna be sleeping in my bed with me
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Now that's what I call customer service!
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Nope.......its called power to the people.
Either way......... its awesome news.
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What about people like us already bought from Vodafone with locked device? Any chance to unlock it soon or not?
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Presumably HTC would have to release an OTA or RUU that upgrades the Sensation to support the sanctioned unlocking method.
If the AWS-band Sensation comes out as an open phone, it's high up on my "next device" list. That or the Nexus 3
More than likely the sensation and announced HTC phones will come with a locked bootloader, they will either make a patch or just not lock future devices. I really don't think they are going to do this so close to launch date..
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If the AWS-band Sensation comes out as an open phone, it's high up on my "next device" list.
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For a June 8 launch, there's probably already 100K boxed and sitting in a warehouse somewhere. They'll have to address it with an update. They're not going to stop the sale date to make s/w changes that 90% of the people buying it don't care about.
And HTC just kept my business.
It just has been confirmed on FB. No more bootloaders locked! Great!
Source FB and here:Engadget
ota fastboot unlock
Sorry just a small question as I'm not quite sure I understood (sometime my english's just poor, especially when it's 4:50am ;-).. What about existing devices with a locked bootloaders? Example people having already the Sensation. A new OTA update or they will stay locked?
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Sorry just a small question as I'm not quite sure I understood (sometime my english's just poor, especially when it's 4:50am ;-).. What about existing devices with a locked bootloaders? Example people having already the Sensation. A new OTA update or they will stay locked?
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From this is my next:
Information beyond that is pretty much nonexistent. HTC (or whoever runs the account) later said that “more specific details will be shared at a later date.”
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From this is my next:
Information beyond that is pretty much nonexistent. HTC (or whoever runs the account) later said that “more specific details will be shared at a later date.”
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oh I see... well, just asking because I'm supposed to get my Sensation on Monday. Thanks
OMG Best damn news about the sensation I have heard in days...
Thanks!
Really great news! Made my day )
Thanks for the "Thanks" guys ;-)
HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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Awesome, pretty fast too Though course I would prefer faster. I also wonder if the T Mo unlock will be on August because if just says that it will be "later" after the global version!
Hmmmmm, just don't F it all up now HTC
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HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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I'll check back in October...
Sounds good to me! HTC now could be held accountable with a time frame, none of this future update open time frame BS
In August..That will be nice..So the confirmed date has been released..We can get our best sensation after htc unlock it!
not holding my breath, especially for TMO units (friggin carriers >:/)...
teamw1n is still my definitive source for full root and S-OFF, i hope this news wont slow/cancel fre3dom dev
what about desire hd
Will carrier firmware mean that I can't get the upgrade to unlocked bootloader firmware or will I be able to force an update via some application on the PC?
Good to see they kept their promise. Now if the Htc Sensation gets Cyanogenmod then I may just buy one but at the moment the dirty old o2x may be my new phone this year.
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great news !!!!!
Nice im just glad mine is unbranded and i dont have to wait for carriers as well.
htc did the right thing by providing a unlocked bootloader.
this should be the way to go,supporting the dev community so that they can adopt good ideas into their products.
i cannot say the same for dell though...
We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
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Hmm... I wonder when they wrote this, do they also imply that they might unlock bootloaders for phones such as Desire?
Bootloader Unlock for HTC Desire HD
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what about desire hd
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Apparently this is also coming soon:
androidforums [dot] com/desire-hd-all-things-root/371044-htc-response-unlock-bootloader-desire-hd.html
Funny that Verizon doesn't have a phone on that list. I wonder whos fault is.
Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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This is fantastic news. Got an unbranded S4G last week (first Android phone) after waiting 6 weeks to upgrade and now I can look forward to learning about kernals and the rest (i hope lol). Not sure i can do that seeing as I'm merely a noob, but i'll give it a try Cheers HTC and, more importantly, XDA-Devs!!
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Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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I totally agree with the quoted post above. Their statement is pure Legalese. To me this just sets up the scenario where a portion of the globe is given first the ability to unlock the boatloader and then sometime later the ability to use the capability to unlock the boatloader. No real precise time frames for either one. HTC states that The US Senation 4g is to follow with no real time frame and then sometime perhaps in latter part of Sept the capability to use the unlock boatloader update. They also did not mention which year, I am betting on Dec 12 of 2011.
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I am seeing December 2011 for just having the ability to unlock and feb of 2012 to actually be have the capability to unlock the boatloader.
If you believe they will unlock it next month your smoking crack, i gaurentee they won't talk is cheap. I hope they prove me wrong but i doubt it.
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I was speaking with a HTC customer service today with a basic support issue and while i was on the phone with them i asked about android 4.0. I take most claims like this with a grain of salt but being that this is from HTC tech support I assume that it is a reliable source. According to HTC, the ICS update for the T-Mobile Sensation
4G was released to be pushed YESTERDAY with the initial push starting today through April 1st with a schedualed upgrade completion by the end of april. I know there are a lot of naah sayers that will want to attack this post because they believe that it will be summer time or never or after the release og the HTC One S and to counter those comments before they happen i want to say very blatantly "I DONT CARE".
Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
I believe you,but what they said about it being pushed yesterday.... Does that mean it should be showing at any time today or tommrow?
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I believe you,but what they said about it being pushed yesterday.... Does that mean it should be showing at any time today or tommrow?
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IF they really did push it yesterday, it should show up SOON. From what I know, the carries have the say if they want it released or not.
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Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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what difference does it make if u that now.....none at all.
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Couple of days ago someone said OTA servers will push updates in the batches of 30,000 , so yeah update is definitely on its way. Though it would be crazy if T-mobile devices get ICS before unbranded devices lol
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what difference does it make if u that now.....none at all.
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Well to be honest it does make a difference, the difference being that I want to wait for the OTA. I have that right right you know. Not to mention I rather like the Visual Voice Mail app.
Don't get me wrong I tried several of the very first alpha and Beta ICS ROMs on my original Sensation. It was S-off and Super CID with a custom boot animation that I had made for myself. But it crapped out on me with total shutdown, it would not charge or turn on. And it did this very suddenly. So I had to get a replacement from T-Mobile and I want to keep this one stock until I get to try out the Official OTA for the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G. I am doing this just in case I want to request another replacement for any reason, oh and did I mention my replacement had bad dust under the screen so I am really considering replacing it anyway. That is another difference it makes. So as you can see you did not know all the variables and really should not have said something so arrogant. And it does make a difference.
Last night around 10:00 pm T-mobile sent a text and it said OTA UP three times, so I believe something is up......
Last nite I did the *#*#checkin#*#* thing and it came back with updates for almost all of The tmobile branded preinstalled apps.
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Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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If I were you I'll do the S-OFF NOW...once the update been push there's no way to get s-off with hboot 1.27,
Robocik just got his phone back and can't get soff,so he brick his phone
To all US T-Mobile remember if you want S-OFF do it now.
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I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?
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I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?
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The 1.50 update was from December.
a4ol said:
I just got an OTA but it is NOT ICS OTA.
I got a simple update for Gingerbread. My software number is now 1.50.531.1 before OTA it was 1.45.531.1.. Perhaps it's a prerequisite update ahead of the ICS OTA?
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A little late to the party I see.
HTC Sensation 4G w/ Beats Audio
Doubt it
On their Facebook page the last couple days T-Mobile has been responding to inquiries about ICS on the Sensation with variations on the following theme "we are currently testing ICS on the Sensation but it isn't the experience we are looking for so HTC is working on our feedback before we send it out and we don't have a time yet. " Doesn't sound like it will be out anytime in the next few weeks. It sounds like T-Mobile and HTC will end up pointing fingers at each other leaving us waiting till at least the second half of the year for our ICS.
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Well to be honest it does make a difference, the difference being that I want to wait for the OTA. I have that right right you know. Not to mention I rather like the Visual Voice Mail app.
Don't get me wrong I tried several of the very first alpha and Beta ICS ROMs on my original Sensation. It was S-off and Super CID with a custom boot animation that I had made for myself. But it crapped out on me with total shutdown, it would not charge or turn on. And it did this very suddenly. So I had to get a replacement from T-Mobile and I want to keep this one stock until I get to try out the Official OTA for the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G. I am doing this just in case I want to request another replacement for any reason, oh and did I mention my replacement had bad dust under the screen so I am really considering replacing it anyway. That is another difference it makes. So as you can see you did not know all the variables and really should not have said something so arrogant. And it does make a difference.
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Well when you make a vague statement that doesn't really make sense to anyone but you.. You kind of invite people to say something...
I for one, feel invited.
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Man I hope whoever told you that was not BSing you. That would be great cause I want to wait for the official update before I S-off, flash a custom recovery and then a custom ICS ROM to my current Sensation.
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How does that not make sense? I did say say current Sensation", I have stated many times in my post here about my Sensation dieing on me, I even started a thread
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Well when you make a vague statement that doesn't really make sense to anyone but you.. You kind of invite people to say something...
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I for one, feel invited.
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Really, I mean really! Was any of that necessary, no it is just something to feed ones ego with. I think that XDA senior member kingston73 has it right, XDA " Could be even better without the egos...".
It will get here when it gets here. To be honest, I don't think tmobile is in any rush.
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Idk why everyone is so impatient for T-Mobile to release ics ..I have T-Mobile USA and for example....gingerbread (stock from T-Mobile) was terrible
..wait...horrific! compared to what our friends here at XDA did. ..what makes u think ICS from T-Mobile extra inflated with all the bloat T-Mobile adds in is going to be any where close to the ics roms we have on xda already?
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I just want ICS compatible wifi calling... Hope it's soon.
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This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
Needs a sticky!
Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.
Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
nugzo said:
Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.
PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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