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HTC... bootloaders will not be locked

Htc has just confirmed that they will not lock bootloaders so here is a big cheers to htc and lets now get this sensation... going lets all thank htc the same way we bashed them..
""There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC"
edit the sensation will be unlocked via ota
"HTC Customer Support Yes, in a future update. Please check our website in the coming weeks for the update!"

If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
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Just about to post!
Really glad they did that

What about people like us already bought from Vodafone with locked device? Any chance to unlock it soon or not?
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lidc1y5 said:
If it true I will thank them and buy their new phone. Money talk more than words.
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it is true i will edit my post to show what was said.. sensational

Now that's what I call customer service!

kgbkny said:
Now that's what I call customer service!
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not only customer service they opened the bootloader i open my door and allow the sensation into my house and htc is always a welcomed guess in my house.... lol well the sensation is gonna be sleeping in my bed with me

kgbkny said:
Now that's what I call customer service!
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Nope.......its called power to the people.
Either way......... its awesome news.

everyday48 said:
What about people like us already bought from Vodafone with locked device? Any chance to unlock it soon or not?
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Presumably HTC would have to release an OTA or RUU that upgrades the Sensation to support the sanctioned unlocking method.
If the AWS-band Sensation comes out as an open phone, it's high up on my "next device" list. That or the Nexus 3

More than likely the sensation and announced HTC phones will come with a locked bootloader, they will either make a patch or just not lock future devices. I really don't think they are going to do this so close to launch date..
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cmstlist said:
If the AWS-band Sensation comes out as an open phone, it's high up on my "next device" list.
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For a June 8 launch, there's probably already 100K boxed and sitting in a warehouse somewhere. They'll have to address it with an update. They're not going to stop the sale date to make s/w changes that 90% of the people buying it don't care about.

And HTC just kept my business.

It just has been confirmed on FB. No more bootloaders locked! Great!
Source FB and here:Engadget

ota fastboot unlock

Sorry just a small question as I'm not quite sure I understood (sometime my english's just poor, especially when it's 4:50am ;-).. What about existing devices with a locked bootloaders? Example people having already the Sensation. A new OTA update or they will stay locked?

swissman said:
Sorry just a small question as I'm not quite sure I understood (sometime my english's just poor, especially when it's 4:50am ;-).. What about existing devices with a locked bootloaders? Example people having already the Sensation. A new OTA update or they will stay locked?
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From this is my next:
Information beyond that is pretty much nonexistent. HTC (or whoever runs the account) later said that “more specific details will be shared at a later date.”

aNYthing24 said:
From this is my next:
Information beyond that is pretty much nonexistent. HTC (or whoever runs the account) later said that “more specific details will be shared at a later date.”
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oh I see... well, just asking because I'm supposed to get my Sensation on Monday. Thanks

OMG Best damn news about the sensation I have heard in days...
Thanks!

Really great news! Made my day )

Thanks for the "Thanks" guys ;-)

HTC confirms bootloader unlock...

HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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Awesome, pretty fast too Though course I would prefer faster. I also wonder if the T Mo unlock will be on August because if just says that it will be "later" after the global version!
Hmmmmm, just don't F it all up now HTC
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kurtis.austin2 said:
HTC confirms that the Sensation will receive an update to unlock the bootloader in August. Check out their twitter or facebook pages for more info.
http://m.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084?_rdr
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I'll check back in October...

Sounds good to me! HTC now could be held accountable with a time frame, none of this future update open time frame BS

In August..That will be nice..So the confirmed date has been released..We can get our best sensation after htc unlock it!

not holding my breath, especially for TMO units (friggin carriers >:/)...
teamw1n is still my definitive source for full root and S-OFF, i hope this news wont slow/cancel fre3dom dev

what about desire hd

Will carrier firmware mean that I can't get the upgrade to unlocked bootloader firmware or will I be able to force an update via some application on the PC?

Good to see they kept their promise. Now if the Htc Sensation gets Cyanogenmod then I may just buy one but at the moment the dirty old o2x may be my new phone this year.
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great news !!!!!

Nice im just glad mine is unbranded and i dont have to wait for carriers as well.

htc did the right thing by providing a unlocked bootloader.
this should be the way to go,supporting the dev community so that they can adopt good ideas into their products.
i cannot say the same for dell though...

We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
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Hmm... I wonder when they wrote this, do they also imply that they might unlock bootloaders for phones such as Desire?

Bootloader Unlock for HTC Desire HD
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what about desire hd
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Apparently this is also coming soon:
androidforums [dot] com/desire-hd-all-things-root/371044-htc-response-unlock-bootloader-desire-hd.html

Funny that Verizon doesn't have a phone on that list. I wonder whos fault is.

Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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This is fantastic news. Got an unbranded S4G last week (first Android phone) after waiting 6 weeks to upgrade and now I can look forward to learning about kernals and the rest (i hope lol). Not sure i can do that seeing as I'm merely a noob, but i'll give it a try Cheers HTC and, more importantly, XDA-Devs!!

mazook98 said:
Key phrases in this memo:
'SUPPORT bootloader unlocking'
'BEGIN'
'followed by..........'
'EXPECT'
'EARLY SEPTEMBER'
'SOFTWARE UPDATES'.
This announcement has obviuosly been SCRUBBED by HTC legal. They just created a ****ton of loopholes for themselves, and gave themselves a LOT more time. We need to realize that the way they worded this sets it up to where we'll have to accept OTAs BEFORE the whole 'unlocking capability' is updated.
Not thrilled.
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I totally agree with the quoted post above. Their statement is pure Legalese. To me this just sets up the scenario where a portion of the globe is given first the ability to unlock the boatloader and then sometime later the ability to use the capability to unlock the boatloader. No real precise time frames for either one. HTC states that The US Senation 4g is to follow with no real time frame and then sometime perhaps in latter part of Sept the capability to use the unlock boatloader update. They also did not mention which year, I am betting on Dec 12 of 2011.
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ScooterG said:
I'll check back in October...
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I am seeing December 2011 for just having the ability to unlock and feb of 2012 to actually be have the capability to unlock the boatloader.

If you believe they will unlock it next month your smoking crack, i gaurentee they won't talk is cheap. I hope they prove me wrong but i doubt it.
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Official HTC update on bootloader unlock 7/10

**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
Source: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150305151453084
I don't know about you guys, but I'm disappointed at the fact that we have to wait so much for this to happen I hope the devs do it first
I've learned my lesson and will be getting the next Nexus. I miss ROM-flashing.

Juste see that via Twitter, good news
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Good news..Can't wait to flash roms!

I am glad they have finally officially said something. All the immature posts flooding their Facebook wall annoy me. Although, they will probably still go on.

It's stupid to have to wait 2 months to make our phones really OURS. I'm disappointed about that.
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DATE is all I needed.
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AWESOME!
Is the Bell Sensation a global sensation?

i.mac said:
AWESOME!
Is the Bell Sensation a global sensation?
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I think by global they mean unbranded.

Derek0228 said:
I think by global they mean unbranded.
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Oh yeah, makes sense.

Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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nice. very good to hear

mouzaihem said:
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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Probably, probably not. I was looking yesterday at the Atrix forums, and i tihnk AT&T Atrix's could have their bootloaders unlocked, while Bell Atrix's couldn't. So we'll see when the time comes. :/

mouzaihem said:
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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I should hope so, but who knows what wrenches HTC/Phone Providers might be able to throw into the mix.
I'm still more thrilled about a possible XDA unlock than by an HTC unlockm which could and in all likelihood will come with some sort of strings, warranty voiding ones, attached.

It's good to know that HTC isn't backing away from the promised unlocked bootloader. It's just a matter of time.

I would like to thank so many people for this:
I would like to thank my mom, dad, sister. Without you guys I wouldn't have the patience to go through with all of this.
I would also like to thank the big man: Carl!

mouzaihem said:
Technically speaking, wouldn't devs be able to take the first update unlocking the international phone and use it to attempt to unlock the branded versions before they get the official release?
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Don't think so. Any kind of modification to the update package would break the attached signature.

Kinda disappointed for the long wait...

Now let's see how many times this gets reposted
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I really don't get some people. For weeks countless people have been whinging that HTC have not set a time frame for our bootlockers to be unlocked, now today HTC make an announcement setting a time frame and people still whinge.
We all bought the phone knowing that the bootlocker is locked with the understanding that in time it will be unlocked. Which is what HTC is doing. Personally I would rather wait until after extensive testing for the update to hopefully work correctly instead of a rushed update full of bugs.

cheesinar said:
I really don't get some people. For weeks countless people have been whinging that HTC have not set a time frame for our bootlockers to be unlocked, now today HTC make an announcement setting a time frame and people still whinge.
We all bought the phone knowing that the bootlocker is locked with the understanding that in time it will be unlocked. Which is what HTC is doing. Personally I would rather wait until after extensive testing for the update to hopefully work correctly instead of a rushed update full of bugs.
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I bought the phone knowing it was going to be unlocked one day. However, never owning an HTC device before, I quickly noticed how big of a drag Sense really was. The in store demos don't really work enough since it's not like you're going to login and customize everything. But once I had everything up and running I REALLY saw how much I prefered the stock experience. So I put the phone to it's side and kept the Nexus One as my daily driver.
However, with this announcement of unlocked bootloaders I will not return my phone like I previously thought.

Htc has done it

http://htcdev.com/ this says it all
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It'd be interesting to see if or how this is useful for our developers.
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"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.

I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...

I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.

nrfitchett4 said:
I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
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my thoughts exactly, which is what im sure will come of this though, sacrifice 1 or 2 to figure it out for the rest!

Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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BoulderGeek said:
"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
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They released the OpenSense SDK today...

They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.

eraursls1984 said:
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.

EmmVeePee said:
I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
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My problems must have been user error, the power button was sticking and it was recessed into the phone, another one had a messed up audio jack, the next had the same issue and this one has the audio jack issue as well just not as bad and this new one also has random reboots even on the new OTA GB radio, the last three only had reboots on froyo radios.

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Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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The Evo3D has s-off via AlphaRev and Unrevoked's Revolutionary tool....
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Milimbar said:
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
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They always release the source to the kernel, just not always right away. It was posted before on http://developer.htc.com

They'll unlock the bootloader to the evo 3d and sensation but not the tbolt. Their unlocking tool will require you to provide them with your device information to void your warranty. Only good I see is developers might be able to use the tool to unlock other devices like the tbolt and future devices without having to provide htc with any of your phones information.
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mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking

queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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On top of that from what I have been reading it is somewhat limiting when compared to s-off. No hboot, radio, or splash1 flashing. Last I heard kernels had to be fastbooted on. There is probably more I don't know about. Voids your warranty and you can't even switch around to find what radio works best for you. Unlocked my a$$!!
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yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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How come when you go to htcdev.com no verizon phones are listed for unlocking bootloader including the thunderbolt? I wouldn't use the site anyways but trust me when I say no verizon phone will appear on that site, carriers own manufacturers and verizon hates unlocked/rooted/modified phones on their network!
Also thanks for the troll comment in flattered!
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queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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I've been saying that since day one when HTC announced these "plans". I think Verizon has enough "pull" with HTC to make sure none of 'their' phones will be supported.

yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Glad to see you can read.... From HTC's website for this, they clearly state
You asked for it, we delivered. Use this tool to install custom firmware on selected HTC Android devices.
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I bolded and italicized the important parts since you missed them the first time.
Further, from their FAQ on this subject:
Will all HTC devices be unlocked?
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.
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[Warning] OTA Rumor/RUU download

This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)

Needs a sticky!

Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.

iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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18th.abn said:
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.

iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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SoberGuy said:
It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.

Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards

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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.

PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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