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So let me get this straight

I want to make sure I'm understanding what's all been going on here the past few days:
A dev releases an alpha radio to the community, along with all the usual disclaimers, etc. (Name not used to protect the innocent).
People start flashing this new "alpha" radio.
Some people start to experience very odd issues which does not allow them to even get back to a stock state (like what worked with every other type of phone).
The dev becomes a little concerned - Since the dev released the radio to the community, he feels it is his duty to inform people that it may be a good idea to revert back to a non "alpha" radio release, because this alpha release may make you not be able to use your phone anymore - again this is an "alpha" release, so no telling what could be causing the issue, but since he is a respected member of the dev community, his reputation may be at stake. So he posts here on XDA.
Next thing you know...Pitchforks and torches.
Go figure.

There're pichforks and torches for jcase? Well I guessed I missed something.
Obviously it's not jcases fault, he couldn't predict that for whatever reason 1 in 20-50 phones would die for no reason.

Agree, JCase has had too long of a history being supportive and on the right side of the line and in this community to be at some fault. **** happens and accidents are unpredictable for a reason. Anyone that tries to roast him doesn't appreciate the work and effort these guys spend making our devices a little bit closer to heaven.

At least he warned us before 90% of the community had bricked phones.
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Forgetfull said:
There're pichforks and torches for jcase? Well I guessed I missed something.
Obviously it's not jcases fault, he couldn't predict that for whatever reason 1 in 20-50 phones would die for no reason.
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Id say more like 1 in a few hundred, or even thousand, but agreed. Devs are doing a great job.
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Ya, it still amazes me that people are getting all mad and "demand" to know what, why , who, where, how, when, etc.
I'm just glad there are devs out there who can provide solutions, so that I don't have to try and create my own.
The Dev's Rock!

Yeah people need to understand the inherent risks in flashing things to their phones, even more so when its clearly stated that the leaked GB radio was an ALPHA release.
I have nothing but respect for devs who work hard to make our phones even better than what they already are.
Thanks!!!!

jcase is not to blame... it is the modders who run alpha software knowing it may brick their phones then they have to get mad at someone... rather than looking in the mirror.
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Yah I agree I mean isn't the whole rooting, custom rom an "at your own risk" anyway.. I don't get it but goes with half the crap going on these days.. No self responsibility. You flashed it you risked it..! WTF

I would really like to know why, I'm not asking for it though. I am just curious. Really I just want gb to be working safely again.
Jcase and the others have done nothing but provide excellent updates, service and everything else. I am truly impressed by their level of commitment. As others have mentioned in other threads... People get paid decent cash to do what jcase does for free. Thank you, truly.
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Well, he's got a big ego, that matches his reputation. Some people are irritated by that. But no matter what you think of him personally, he's given a lot to the bolt community and that should be respected.
I thought there were some people on here with childish attitudes. I finally realized why...some of them are....Some are younger than my own kids.
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Is Jcase really taking heat? I mean, come on people, we know going in that we can gank our phones by flashing unapproved stuff on them. We brick, we only have ourselves to blame, simple as that. I for one applaud Jcase for alerting us so quickly to the problem.

What does any of this have to do with an ego?
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What does any of this have to do with an ego?
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The haters of jcase are using this as a reason to hate on him. Not saying it's justified, just where it comes from.
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Right. IMO, if anyone complains about a bricked device, they should be banned. The minute you root your device, the responsibility for bricking lies with you.
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"Innocent " not guilty of crime or offense. These devs keep on giving so much to us and this is how we try to repay them by persecution ,instead of the being " behind you " approach we should stand side by side with them, and after all we all practice freewill by flashing.
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Some people are stupid. Simple as that.
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I never knew who JCase was before the Thunderbolt, but I have to say he is a pretty cool dood, and it is awesome to see Devs getting leaks like he does. Never saw any of this with the Evo 4G. We never got to have new radios/roms of new firmware versions until after then had been out a week or two and devs had gotten a hold of them. Here we have them weeks if not months in advance, and I applaud him, and other devs for that.

And just think, they do this all without expecting anything.
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I haven't really been following the story, so I didn't know a dev was taking heat. Lame. Had my phone ended up bricked, I'd blame myself.

GalaxyS 2 has CM7

This is rediculous how this phone has it before us, when our phones came out first. Are there any specific reasons to this?
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Samsung donated one to the CM7 devs.

cranch said:
Samsung donated one to the CM7 devs.
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Yup. It's amazing how much a hardware donation can speed things along.
Also, I think that the SGSII has been available internationally for nearly as long as the Infuse, and has sold significantly more units.
Actually, from the looks of it, supposedly the UK got SGSII on 5/1 - we got the Infuse on 5/15 - SGSII has been around LONGER and as stated above, Samsung donated a unit to a CM7 dev.

Hare4 said:
This is rediculous how this phone has it before us, when our phones came out first. Are there any specific reasons to this?
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Your ridiculous... learn about what your posting, before you actually post useless threads
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samsung made a statement that they would aid in porting cm7. so I'm sure Samsung engineers and the cm team were in contact as well as the donated phone.
the infuse has fewer users, fewer devs and the cm team doesn't have one. we could raise money for them but instead our donation bounties went to talented independent devs with little association with the cm team. we will get it, nopcodex and razor are working on it but it takes time.

The Galaxy S II community has 10 times as many devs as us. And a few of their devs are a lot more experienced than any of our devs. That's why.

This thread seems like it'd be damn near offensive to the devs we have in this community.

beatblaster said:
This thread seems like it'd be damn near offensive to the devs we have in this community.
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It is offensive, but oh well.
I'm sure that development will pick up once GB is released.

beatblaster said:
This thread seems like it'd be damn near offensive to the devs we have in this community.
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Yup. We have some devs pretty close to the goal, despite the fact that:
1) Despite what the OP claimed, the SGSII has actually been out longer than our phones (Someone forgot that countries other than the United States exist)
2) Samsung donated an SGSII to the guy that did the i9000 bringup, and we haven't really gotten ANYTHING from them in terms of dev support.

None of the teamhacksung developers have an Infuse 4G. If you want CyanogenMod7 on the Infuse 4G, you need some developers who are motivated enough to do it and have the wherewithal to get it done. CyanogenMod isn't like a company that assigns developers to projects, gives them the hardware etc. It is all volunteer work. If you want CyanogenMod on a device, you need to volunteer to do it and get it done.

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None of the teamhacksung developers have an Infuse 4G. If you want CyanogenMod7 on the Infuse 4G, you need some developers who are motivated enough to do it and have the wherewithal to get it done. CyanogenMod isn't like a company that assigns developers to projects, gives them the hardware etc. It is all volunteer work. If you want CyanogenMod on a device, you need to volunteer to do it and get it done.
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I say we send one to atinm
Teamhacksung knows how to get it done
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Would you amd teamhacksung be willing tio do work on it, if you got a device donated?
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Also the S2 has had gb since the beginning. Of course it was gonna get CM7 first. I'm shocked OP is suprised

Bounty for more devs

What do you guys think about starting a bounty for move devs like our current devs but honestly mould more hurt us
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I think it would be great to get some more devs on board but I don't see it happening. With the recent wave of phones out now and obviously the soon to be released GN, its going to be very difficult to sway devs our way.
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How about a bounty for ICS. I think anyone who can get it on our phone deserves some cash. I'd put $10 into the pot. Is there already a bounty on that somewhere or should we start one? I'm all for rewarding Devs hard work and I'm sure it would help to give em an incentive.

Agreed but as mentioned previously we need cm7 first and ril fixed or released whst have u
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I don't understand why developers left this phone for inferior devices. After using Super Amoled Plus I simply cannot use other smartphones and since the galaxy S II never came to Verizon, the charge is the only device on the carrier with this quality display. I've tried rezound and razr and they are junk. I'm sure the nexus will be a little better but its still pentile and MY eyes can tell the difference. Weird that the best device on the carrier (even with its single core) just got ditched....

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
Agreed but as mentioned previously we need cm7 first and ril fixed or released whst have u
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I'm a little confused about what is preventing us from getting CM. Is it just the lack of devs or is it something specific about the charge?

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I'm a little confused about what is preventing us from getting CM. Is it just the lack of devs or is it something specific about the charge?
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It's Both!!

I pretty much feel that development on this phone is dead in the water. Other than Danalo, I've seen virtually no official movement from any other dev's since September. Danalo is going to the GNexus and although he says he will still support the phone, I don't forsee much movement. That's not a knock against him or any developer. Lets face it though, there hasn't been much developer interest to begin with. A big part of this is due to the fact that there hasn't been source. Verizon Sammy phones are notoriously slow at getting source. Those of you reading this might say, "But the Fascinate eventually got source AND an MTD CM7 port was done. Why can't this happen with the Charge?" The Fascinate was different. You had a couple of very talented dev's sticking with it for one. For two, there weren't so many new and exciting phones coming out. Sure, there was the TBolt that drew away some
dev's and teams, but now, you have the first ever Verizon Nexus Google based phone coming out and many other (quad core phones) technologically advanced phones on the horizon. What's the incentive to stick with this phone? More importantly than this, what can even be done with it right now? Not much. You couple this with the track record of there not being many touchwiz based Roms in the past to begin with and well.....you see what I mean.
I don't mean to be a downer. I just think this is realistic. I am in no way discounting what Gummy, Danalo, Imnuts and others have done. I appreciate their efforts with this phone but it seems clear to me that the majority of those efforts are over and have been for a while minus Danalos contributions.
Again, I'm sorry but I see this phone's development as virtually over with. I hope I'm wrong but I believe it enough that I'm leaving the phone soon as well.
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To get cm working we need riled working which is the display actually responding of believe
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SOTK said:
I pretty much feel that development on this phone is dead in the water. Other than Danalo, I've seen virtually no official movement from any other dev's since September. Danalo is going to the GNexus and although he says he will still support the phone, I don't forsee much movement. That's not a knock against him or any developer. Lets face it though, there hasn't been much developer interest to begin with. A big part of this is due to the fact that there hasn't been source. Verizon Sammy phones are notoriously slow at getting source. Those of you reading this might say, "But the Fascinate eventually got source AND an MTD CM7 port was done. Why can't this happen with the Charge?" The Fascinate was different. You had a couple of very talented dev's sticking with it for one. For two, there weren't so many new and exciting phones coming out. Sure, there was the TBolt that drew away some
dev's and teams, but now, you have the first ever Verizon Nexus Google based phone coming out and many other (quad core phones) technologically advanced phones on the horizon. What's the incentive to stick with this phone? More importantly than this, what can even be done with it right now? Not much. You couple this with the track record of there not being many touchwiz based Roms in the past to begin with and well.....you see what I mean.
I don't mean to be a downer. I just think this is realistic. I am in no way discounting what Gummy, Danalo, Imnuts and others have done. I appreciate their efforts with this phone but it seems clear to me that the majority of those efforts are over and have been for a while minus Danalos contributions.
Again, I'm sorry but I see this phone's development as virtually over with. I hope I'm wrong but I believe it enough that I'm leaving the phone soon as well.
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Imnuts is still actively working on this phone and just posted the newest Infiniti beta on twitter yesterday as well as continues to try and get gb kernel.source to work
Jt hasn't said he's stopped aosp work at all but ics source drew him back to the fascinate for awhile
And fwiw I'm thinking of picking up a charge of eBay or something after the.gnex drops cuz they all most likely bottom out in price... if that's the case then I'd work on it, or at least help imnuts maintain infinity

No bounty is going to bring developers to this phone, your best bet is to contact Rootzwiki and ask for more Charges to be given to developers. Of course, if jt gets the ril working for aosp, that will help bring interest from others. Its still a great phone, especially since the GB update.
As long as VZW keeps launching new/more phones it dilutes the developer pool even further. Unless you get the nexus, you are unlikely to have massive developer support. Gone are the days when the D1 and the Incredible were the only android phones on VZW....
On the other hand, the lack of seasoned developers has caused an increase in the # of ppl learning the basics and there is a new batch of developers-in-training. Don't be surprised to see more contributions from them in the near future.

A bounty will do nothing-developers do this for fun. They accept donations, but most do not wave around their collection buckets.
We have imnuts, Danalo, supercurio, aeroevan, and numerous themers. And maybe imoseyon too-although he doesn't have a charge anymore.
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My $10 still stands for ICS. Even if it won't speed up the process, I WANT to give it to whoever posts ICS first.

nitsuj17 said:
Imnuts is still actively working on this phone and just posted the newest Infiniti beta on twitter yesterday as well as continues to try and get gb kernel.source to work
Jt hasn't said he's stopped aosp work at all but ics source drew him back to the fascinate for awhile
And fwiw I'm thinking of picking up a charge of eBay or something after the.gnex drops cuz they all most likely bottom out in price... if that's the case then I'd work on it, or at least help imnuts maintain infinity
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Well, that's good to hear. I'm glad some amount of development will continue.
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Since it's to hard for people to follow me on IRC/Twitter/Rootzwiki, and since releases in IRC aren't considered development work by some (sorry, my life is busy and IRC is easier/faster than forums), I posted here, just so everyone can enjoy, so knock yourself out.

imnuts said:
Since it's to hard for people to follow me on IRC/Twitter/Rootzwiki, and since releases in IRC aren't considered development work by some (sorry, my life is busy and IRC is easier/faster than forums), I posted here, just so everyone can enjoy, so knock yourself out.
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you spoil us dude lol
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imnuts said:
Since it's to hard for people to follow me on IRC/Twitter/Rootzwiki, and since releases in IRC aren't considered development work by some (sorry, my life is busy and IRC is easier/faster than forums), I posted here, just so everyone can enjoy, so knock yourself out.
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Apparently, if it's not in front of their faces, it doesn't exist.

imnuts said:
Since it's to hard for people to follow me on IRC/Twitter/Rootzwiki, and since releases in IRC aren't considered development work by some (sorry, my life is busy and IRC is easier/faster than forums), I posted here, just so everyone can enjoy, so knock yourself out.
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It's not too hard at all to follow you on Twitter or Rootzwiki. I've frequented IRC in the past but didn't care for the experience. At any rate, maybe I've been under the wrong impression. I've always thought your IRC/Twitter releases were alpha or test releases. I've seen you comment in the past on Twitter when referring to your Infinity Rom that "here is such and such Rom but waiting for it to be tested before making it public" so I've always thought those releases were test releases. Since you've stopped posting Roms in the forums, my assumption was that either you weren't developing or your work wasn't ready for public use.
At any rate, thanks for your work man!
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I leave stuff in IRC mainly because it is faster for me, and the users there tend to be more experienced, so if there is an issue, they can usually figure it out for themselves. I don't want to post something that will have a hot boot or FC when you do something common with the device, and sometimes, the releases are a link and I'm off. Posting something on a forum brings in several hundred more users, many of which barely read anything in the topic or even the first post. I haven't had the time to even begin to troubleshoot, answer questions, or provide feedback really to people not in IRC, and even now my time is somewhat limited with the holidays.

How about adding a goggles + account I believe that would be much easier any way whatsoever is is urgent twitter so I can follow
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Confusing

First off, my intent is no to flame or enflame, but rather an expression of desired continuity. Seanzscreams SkyIce has been lock with thousands upon thousands of user of his rom swinging in the wind. This is supposedly over the "illegal" use of the dropbox.apk being used from a port of the SG3. What I am not understanding is that 4-5 months ago, a similar hack was used with the box.apk ported from the nexus. This was never locked or removed. In fact, it was touted in the portal itself. I am having a problem seeing a difference in the two situations. If this were just a case of cleaning all the flamers, that would be anoter thing because it gets bad, and I hate to see that myself. But, it is not just that. Again, I am looking to cause no uproar, but voice my concern over this. I have to. If I felt I could not do at least that here, than the forum would feel like being stuck in iOS. Limited, stifled and voiceless. I cant stand the thought of XDA feeling like that to me after four years of being here. Thank-you for your understanding on the nature of this post. Respect to mods, respect to devs, and respect to fellow users.
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In before lock! :silly:

Its prob not the apk its self but what he got in return for including into rom. Not that I have anything against it, I mean hell he spends a lot of time for us the users. He should get something.
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I truly hope it does not get locked. There is never anything wrong with a place to respectfully and diplomatically voice concerns and/or thoughts on such a topic. I choose to never flame or stifle anyone, and always welcome respectful opposition to my point of view. Hell, i am use to being told im wrong. Ive been married twice, lol.
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Its prob not the apk its self but what he got in return for including into rom. Not that I have anything against it, I mean hell he spends a lot of time for us the users. He should get something. Thank-you for your input on this cha0dsm. The more info, the better.
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I was not aware of him getting anything for including it. Bit if that is the situation, then point well taken. Whether that .apk is present or not, he will still be on my donate to list. His roms have made my phone so much more enjoyable than I could have imagined. Funny thing is, I never got the extra space with that .apk. But to be fair, I never use dropbox either.
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Hell, i am use to being told im wrong. Ive been married twice, lol.
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Haha great! You said it!:laugh:
Us types may just be the silent minority but we know our place!
And I'll add to it, it's not just the wives, but the kids sure like to show us it too sometimes. Makes a man humble.

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Retracted

I would hate to lose such a prolific Dev to this. I see the value in, XDA protecting itself, from perceived illegal activity, I see no issue with locking the threads until figured out. I would rather lose a Rom than this wonderful site.
Here's to SeanZ quick fix and re-upload of a new version of SkyICS 4.2F without the offending apk.
Thank you Seanz and XDA, both, for what you give us.

I'm assuming there is some back-channel dialog with Sean, and hopefully all ends well with new version(s) of the ROMs without the dropbox.apk.
That said, this is kind of an interesting line to walk, given how much of the activity (and value) of xda relates to all sorts of leaked, back-ported, or re-distributed software. When a leaked ROM is posted, or pieces of a ROM cross-ported & posted, for example, is it always clear which pieces are "okay" and which are "TOS violations?"

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I would hate to lose such a prolific Dev to this. I see the value in, XDA protecting itself, from perceived illegal activity, I see no issue with locking the threads until figured out. I would rather lose a Rom than this wonderful site.
Here's to SeanZ quick fix and re-upload of a new version of SkyICS 4.2F without the offending apk.
Thank you Seanz and XDA, both, for what you give us.
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While I may still have a few concerns, I completely understand your stance. I love this community, which was the motivation for writing the Op. I also absolutely love the Roms that Sean provides for us. His work and dedication for us, as a community, is simply amazing. I have an immense amount of respect and gratitude for the man. As far as the Mod who locked the threads, I have never noticed anything truly "unfair" or "demeaning" by them, either. Even warning posts are courteous and respectful. So, I cant complain there. Heres to hoping that this amazing dev and the officiating mod/mods get this cleared up in a timely and mutually beneficial manner, so we can all resume our enjoyment of Seans brilliant roms within this great community.

I've been on other thread for other devices when the links get pulled. The talk was the OP was told/PMed in advance, of the infraction. thus giving the OP an opportunity to fix, I'm not saying this happen this time. I believe the Mods are on the up and up and want the treads to continue with out any issues. I would imagine that their is often behind the scenes warnings.

Just Curious
Since skyics got closed for using dropbox.apk wouldn't the leaked roms be considered the same thing? It has apk files from the carriers in them that might have been updated and not released yet. I am just wondering how that works? I don't want to get in trouble for using something I'm not suppose to,

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Since skyics got closed for using dropbox.apk wouldn't the leaked roms be considered the same thing? It has apk files from the carriers in them that might have been updated and not released yet. I am just wondering how that works? I don't want to get in trouble for using something I'm not suppose to,
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I think it is more of an issue of it being on a device in which it was not meant for, and as a direct result, getting something (50Gb) that you were not otherwise able to get. If it was just a regular Dropbox.apk, it would be no big deal. The extra 50Gb promotion added to it is where the issue lies. It is a very slippery slope, though. In an open source dev community, I suppose it could be argued either way. It will come down to basic rules and judgement on a case by case basis, most likely. Like I said in the op, the same occurance with the Box.apk 50Gb promotion ported from the Nexus was never questioned, so I guess it can be labeled as a grey area and go either way.

Thanks
Thank you for clearing that up. I just didn't want to get in any trouble if the other apk files were illegal.

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I think it is more of an issue of it being on a device in which it was not meant for, and as a direct result, getting something (50Gb) that you were not otherwise able to get. If it was just a regular Dropbox.apk, it would be no big deal. The extra 50Gb promotion added to it is where the issue lies. It is a very slippery slope, though. In an open source dev community, I suppose it could be argued either way. It will come down to basic rules and judgement on a case by case basis, most likely. Like I said in the op, the same occurance with the Box.apk 50Gb promotion ported from the Nexus was never questioned, so I guess it can be labeled as a grey area and go either way.
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This can definitely be argued either way... all of the "leaked" ICS roms can be considered stolen, as they are not "official" releases.
I think what's bothering me the most is that in the 4 months I've had my skyrocket, I honestly can't remember any involvement from a Mod, and now threads are locked everywhere. Makes ya scratch your head. (I don't say this to flame, it's just odd seeing a one-day heavy cleanup. To add to that... Sean has had drop box in his from for 2 weeks... why now?)
Edited: cause fat thumbs sumbited before I was ready! Lol!
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If it turns out the the folks at Dropbox are behind this, I will move to another cloud storage solution and close my Dropbox account.
There are too many other options available.
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The issue is DropBox is a paid service, any free exploit is illegal.

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The issue is DropBox is a paid service, any free exploit is illegal.
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Yes, it could very well be that Dropbox is forcing the hand of XDA on this one. In that case, XDA would indeed have to protect itself. I would imagine that Sean will have the opportunity to "clean" and re-release his rom. Otherwise, the threads would have been simply deleted. Just my opinion, though.

Since the 4.2F thread is back open, thanks to Sean and the mods for their fast work in getting things resolved. Back to Sky-Ics Bliss.

[Q] Reward?

I am willing to give a reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 retail license to the person who successfully solves the problem of getting the G2X Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem fully working with the CM10.1 or stock LG ICS kernel or the kernel that is being worked on by AdamPK, Mazout360, etc. If I determine that more than one person has made a significant contribution to achieving that, I will give the same reward to them too. But, before I make that official, I want opinions about doing that.
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The code required to achieve success must be fully documented and publicly available to enable others to use it successfully too.
UPDATE
The poll ended overwhelmingly in favour of me rewarding development which gets the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel.
There's no expectation or obligation of anyone to accept the reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 license for accomplishing the development goal.
The reward will be awarded after the goal is accomplished which is proven by the full/complete operation of the G2X and its Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel and the submission, to me, of documentation of the method used, in the form of fully commented source code which can be understood by a person competent in the programming language used so that it can be used for verification and for further development.
If there is a dispute as to who ultimately accomplished the goal of getting the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel, it will be resolved by examination of relevant documentation which I will use to determine the reward recipient(s). If more than one person, determined by me exclusively, contributed substantially to achieving the goal, each of those persons will be eligible to receive the same reward. If anyone who is eligible to receive the reward doesn't want it they may forego receiving it.
The content of this post is subject to change due to errors and/or ommissions and/or illegality.

37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?

Core Memory said:
37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?
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Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?

This won't incentivize cooperation which looks necessary to me.
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im about ready to just buy another g2x and send tonyp my old one lol

In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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Bulletblitz27 said:
In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:

monte666 said:
I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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No changing votes.

BuddhaTeh1337 said:
i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:
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That would be helpful but how would that be accomplished? Regardless, I have decided what my contribution will be and how it will be awarded.

ali ba said:
Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?
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A thread that people can post to is not spam but off-topic posts to a thread are.

Does anyone know
if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?

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if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?
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I suppose that, if the developer is already doing it, but they don't have a G2X such as tonyp, they would welcome getting one to enable them to do their development much more easily. I think tonyp well deserves getting a G2X for his effort. I don't know about anyone else who doesn't have a G2X who is contributing as much as he has and still is. Wouldn't it be helpful to ask him and, if he wants one, easiest to donate to him directly so that he can buy the phone? I am certain that, if that happened, he would be very pleased.

Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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I'll throw in the $5 that was donated to me lately.

tonyp said:
Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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Offering a Windows 8 license isn't that strange even in the Android/Linux community as many use Windows for some purposes that Android/Linux don't fulfil. The reward wouldn't be given until it was "earned". (And, also, but not to brag about it, I was also a member of MSDNAA but I've retired from that now.)
Kernel development/hacking is very difficult so anyone who would do it would have to have the phone anyway so getting the phone one already owns isn't an incentive. You're correct about giving a phone upfront implies that there is the expectation of a beneficial payback to whomever donates the phone which is a good reason not to give one and not to want one.
I am still committed to the reward I am considering offering. So far, the majority are in favour of it. When the poll is over, I will do what the majority wants.

We'd probably need some dev who already works for LG or some other company to get the radio working.. or as stated before, some who understands android coding extremely well such.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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I sent an email asking for assistance to someone at NVIDIA who does supervisory work with Tegra and Linux programming. I hope he replies.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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He doesn't work for LG but he is in good terms with the developers at LG.
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