Due to the recent departure of a certain dev, I've become curious who doesn't do a full wipe before flashing a new rom and why you wouldn't. Is there some unseen benefit I'm unaware of?
I think the more important question is who doesn't make a backup? I've learned from losing stuff to backup anytime I flash anything. No matter how safe it should be.
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I think the real question is why not ask this question without preloading it was drama? Don't even deny it.
loonatik78 said:
Due to the recent departure of a certain dev, I've become curious who doesn't do a full wipe before flashing a new rom and why you wouldn't. Is there some unseen benefit I'm unaware of?
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i wipe with toilet paper.
i only wipe if i am switching to a new rom brand (ie das bamf to gingeritis)
bthomp21 said:
i wipe with toilet paper.
i only wipe if i am switching to a new rom brand (ie das bamf to gingeritis)
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Same with me. This is what I usually do. However if i do have issues arising, i flash again after wiping.
The first step in moving on with your life after a loved one leaves you is to admit to yourself there gone. RIP Chingy.... Wait he didn't die did he? Loonatik he ain't dead. He has his own site. Go be with him there. Just what we need another RIP Chingy thread.
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jasonxlee01 said:
Same with me. This is what I usually do. However if i do have issues arising, i flash again after wiping.
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exactly. ive been doing this since my droid1 and hasnt failed me yet.
Wiping is honestly a pain, if I'm switching to a new ROM I'll wipe, but if I'm just upgrading then I won't. The only time I've hoenstly ever had a problem was wiping and restoring, I've had some weird errors when doing that (Home and Search button wouldn't function).
I thought on these phones you had to wipe it 20 times???
But I agree, if you are changing ROMS and not updating to a new version of the same ROM, you should wipe.
And Chingy took his ball to his own playground so y'all go play with him there.
adrynalyne said:
I think the real question is why not ask this question without preloading it was drama? Don't even deny it.
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10 characters.
Always... Update or not. You're not a flasher if you don't start from scratch. Lol
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I wipe every day, at least once...
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I wipe every update regardless if it says to do so or not...it takes me 5 min to get everything back to how I had it, considering I have all my apk's backed up.
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People complain about threads but yet they read em and respond!!! Smh
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Durr how does titanium back up work....ofc I wipe between every flash, but really I only lose about 25-30 mins to get set fully back up...
i usually wipe every time i install a new rom. whether im going from 2.0 to 2.1 or rc1 to rc2. I always wipe just to make sure i dont have issues later
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Always... Update or not. You're not a flasher if you don't start from scratch. Lol
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Seriously, how freaking hard is it to wipe? Unless the dev says not to, I do...
Front to back....lol.
It's the sanitary thing to do, then you'll be sure to not have databerries hanging off your phone.
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... then you'll be sure to not have databerries hanging off your phone.
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LMAO!
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adrynalyne said:
I think the real question is why not ask this question without preloading it was drama? Don't even deny it.
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Would there be a way of asking it without alluding to some well known recent event? Anyone in the know is gonna make that assumption no matter how I posed it, so why not just be honest? That made me want to ask, after wondering in my own head for a long time, and I honestly would like to know why someone would flash one ROM over another. What kind of luck have they had? I've done it a couple times just being in a hurry and nothing pretty ever came of it. That's all. We've chatted in IRC. You seem like a good guy. Not looking for bad blood.
Every post I see from loon is condescending, spiteful, and instigative
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Through the years, I've led myself to more issues with my phone by rooting it and customizing it to my hearts content. Recently, I decided to go back to stock. I'm pretty fed up with this phone, rooted or not. What I want to know is how I can get rid of busybox. I installed root checker to make sure the phone was factory stock, but busybox remains. Any answers? Only one I've found involves root access.
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This thread will get you bone stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111486
If it shows anything after that, then it either came on the phone, or it's picking up something on your SD card.
Hmmm, this is what I did originally. Why wasn't busybox removed? Couldn't be sd card, its been reformatted recently.
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Does anyone know why busybox is not being removed? I've odined the stock rom, going from ed1 to ee4 twice now. When I run root checker, it still says that "busybox has been installed correctly".
Edit: when I say going from ed1, I mean I odined that, then did the ota to ee4
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why does it matter if it is present or not
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why does it matter if it is present or not
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I want it to be factory so I can send it in without being hit with a bill for $499 because of voiding the warranty.
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Is there really nobody out there who has the answer to this? The only thing I've found was to root so I could delete it from the system files...is there another way to do it?
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Jborch8 said:
Is there really nobody out there who has the answer to this? The only thing I've found was to root so I could delete it from the system files...is there another way to do it?
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IMO I don't think it matters honestly, they're not gonna run root checker at the factory... all they want to see is that it powers on and works and there's no physical damage, if they see something glaringly obvious like a custom rom or the superuser app then yeah they'll ding you for it
as for removing it without root I wouldn't know, if you knew how to compile/recompile rom packages you could remove it from the Odin package then flash it.. also it's in the market, maybe try uninstalling it from there or under 'all' applications tab in applications settings
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I want it to be factory so I can send it in without being hit with a bill for $499 because of voiding the warranty.
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Lol.. don't worry about that. For one
. They flash at the factory. This is the 4th charge i have had. I send them in all he time to get new ones and I have never reverted to stock first. The one I sent in a few weeks ago was running gummygbe2.1 and before that humblecomb.
Before the charge I had the dinc and sent it in with cynogen and other roms frequently.
Being as you are sending it in stock... you will be fine dude.
Its a little known secret but verizon will swap your phone for any reason and they rarely even verify you sent the old one back. I ended up with 3 droid incredibles lol.
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msticlaru said:
Lol.. don't worry about that. For one
. They flash at the factory. This is the 4th charge i have had. I send them in all he time to get new ones and I have never reverted to stock first. The one I sent in a few weeks ago was running gummygbe2.1 and before that humblecomb.
Before the charge I had the dinc and sent it in with cynogen and other roms frequently.
Being as you are sending it in stock... you will be fine dude.
Its a little known secret but verizon will swap your phone for any reason and they rarely even verify you sent the old one back. I ended up with 3 droid incredibles lol.
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Lol alright, thanks. I really can't stand this thing. I have such bad luck with phones. Every phone I get is a piece. The Charge's data switch is horrible, constant freezes and black screens. And let's not forget the flash crash while using the camera with the flash.
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Lol alright, thanks. I really can't stand this thing. I have such bad luck with phones. Every phone I get is a piece. The Charge's data switch is horrible, constant freezes and black screens. And let's not forget the flash crash while using the camera with the flash.
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Agreed. Im actually waiting on a 5th replacement .. the one im using right now has screen discoloration in the top left corner. Looks like a pizza slice of brown color. Ill be happy to sell it on ebay and get my htc rezound
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I think if this phone had more ram it would be much much better but come on.. 328mb of ram? my gfs phone "droid incredible 2" has damn near 900mb of ram and that thing is indestructible.
But to answer your question with a question.. do you have the .pit file in, auto reboot and F. Reset time NOT checked with repartition checked?
my phone freezes up multiple times a day and i have to take out the battery in order to get it to work. Does anyone else have this problem?
What are you running
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I have not experienced that. A bit of information might help others to possibly help you, though. Can you tell us what ROM you're using, if the problem started recently, if it started after you installed a certain app, if you're over clocking or under clocking, and if you've tried to do a factory data reset?
Im running stock. The last time i tried to install a rom i ended up with the picture in the attachment. So i took it to the local T-Mobile kiosk and they replaced it for me. i re-rooted it but didnt rom it at all. And its been like this since i got the replacement phone. never had the problem before. (this was a week ago)
Pretty picture. Kidding, of course. Reminds me of messing with interlaced graphics on my old Amiga.
If it's been doing it since you got it chances are it's probably a hardware issue. I've not heard of rooting causing issues like that. Did you install any apps after you got it, specifically anything that runs/syncs in the background?
Nothing i didnt have on before. umm.. Go SMS and Launcher, Widget Locker...
I'd go the factory data reset route & not install any apps for a day or so and see how it runs. If all is OK, start reinstalling your apps 1 x 1, give each app a day to see if the problem starts up.
If you do a factory data reset and it's still doing it, then it's probably faulty hardware.
Yeah try a factory reset and see how that does. The rainbow screen looks like a gingerbread rom without the correct bootloaders.
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Yeah try a factory reset and see how that does. The rainbow screen looks like a gingerbread rom without the correct bootloaders.
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So that's the mysterious rainbow screen I keep reading about. Thanks, because I had no idea what it looked like (thank goodness). The bottom part reminds me of Poltergeist "Don't go into the light..."
Is this new phone they gave you refurbished?
I used to have that problem all the time when i was stock... New ROM and it went bye bye...
Hah that picture you got there reminds me of when i stupidly flashed a gb kernel on froyo... still fixed it and matter of factly I'm using the same device right now were all newbs at some point, don't let it discourage you, just take it as a lesson learned and be more careful next time
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So I have Nexus S and this doesn't happen a lot but about every month or so my phone just reboots itself. I know why this happens, but I wanna know If I can prevent it...
I know this sounds stupid but I am hoping that I can prevent it... I'm not rooted or anything so I can't do anything that has anything with rooting.
Thanks
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More often then not it has to do with some sort of memory leak, and your ram bleeds out so the phone reboots. Can be caused by almost anything, system apps, user apps etc. Also, how long is your uptime on your phone? The longer its on typically the lower the available resources.
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Um not mor than like 2 weeks... Also when my Nexus S booted up, it randomly rebooted itself again which was kinda weird... Any suggestions?
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I suggest you to wipe everything in CWM and reflash the stock rom.
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I suggest you to wipe everything in CWM and reflash the stock rom.
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You think that's the only way? First of all I have terrible experience with wiping and such, so I don't wanna go that far... Can you please think of something else?
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kyokeun1234 said:
You think that's the only way? First of all I have terrible experience with wiping and such, so I don't wanna go that far... Can you please think of something else?
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Leave it alone. You're much better than anyone else here who has this happening almost every day LOL
I suggest rebooting every week or so just for the sake of preventing it. But no matter what you do you'll get a reboot eventually. Maybe get an app that forces a reboot at night everyday. But seriously if you have an up time of 2 weeks than that's very good
i generally try to reboot manually once daily, it keeps the phone speedy and gremlin free
Thanks everyone! I was worried that I have to wipe my phone! I'm glad that there's nothing wrong with my phone!
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kyokeun1234 said:
Thanks everyone! I was worried that I have to wipe my phone! I'm glad that there's nothing wrong with my phone!
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Its definitely not a problem with your phone! I would suggest actually rebooting everyday or week rather then preventing them though.
Happy new year to you!
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shockem said:
Its definitely not a problem with your phone! I would suggest actually rebooting everyday or week rather then preventing them though.
Happy new year to you!
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Thanks and I will! I was just kinda surprised that it just happened suddenly but thanks to you guys, I feel much better now
And happy new year to you too!
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I'm ruining stock ICS 4.0.4. Noticed yesterday my phone was really sluggish and battery life would go from%100 to dead in about two hours. I went into settings then apps and looked at my running apps and my phone was scrolling through all of my apps. I don't think that's normal. My widgets are slow to activate and my phone is slow to respond. Any help would be appreciated. Does this sound like a virus or a simple fix?
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I did hear that from a friend and I didn't believe it...
Now I'm starting to believe...
Best way fresh install, format internal sd.
That way you know for sure if it's a virus or not.
Good luck!
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I did hear that from a friend and I didn't believe it...
Now I'm starting to believe...
Best way fresh install, format internal sd.
That way you know for sure if it's a virus or not.
Good luck!
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That's not going to tell you if its a virus noob. It could be any number of things causing the slowdown. What are your friends credentials because if its not a background in networking security he's got nothing but here say. Unfortunately for you I am a security professional. The likelihood of a virus is slim to none. Its more likely memory issues some apps probably consuming more than its share.
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That's not going to tell you if its a virus noob. It could be any number of things causing the slowdown. What are your friends credentials because if its not a background in networking security he's got nothing but here say. Unfortunately for you I am a security professional. The likelihood of a virus is slim to none. Its more likely memory issues some apps probably consuming more than its share.
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you should suggest him what to do instead of mocking me...
And I just told him what I heard and fresh install would be best bet...
If you're having a bad day have a bear bud and take it easy
nbnion said:
you should suggest him what to do instead of mocking me...
And I just told him what I heard and fresh install would be best bet...
If you're having a bad day have a bear bud and take it easy
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Bad info and fear are not good input either. The reset would probably help but not because of a virus but freeing up tons of previously used space.
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When looking at my running apps, should they be constantly scrolling? I've ran Norton malware and it came up clean.
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breeze1000rr said:
When looking at my running apps, should they be constantly scrolling? I've ran Norton malware and it came up clean.
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Get rid of Norton its worthless
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Flash a rom. If you wanna keep it stock go to stock jelly bean 4.1.2.
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Flash a rom. If you wanna keep it stock go to stock jelly bean 4.1.2.
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This is a good idea.
You may have a app wakelocking keeping your CPU running and not deep sleeping like stated above there is like a .01 percent chance its a virus.
Wipe every thing reflash ROM of choice let settle then install your apps one a time waiting a few minutes between them so u can see witch one dose it.
Read up on the wake lock thread and see what betterbatterystats tells you. Or you could just flash a new rom
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Hey thanx to all who responded. I ended up backing up my phone and doing a reset. Lost all my sips but that's no biggie. Went back with sock ICS and all seems to be fine. Once again thanx for helping out a somewhat noob!
So just to see if I understood :
You are using stock but rooted (?)
And your battery last only two hours.
I had the same issue with a ROM. First you have to shut off al your radios, data, gps, wifi, bt... Just to be aware if none of these things that are draining your battery life.
Then you should try to verify your battery charger. There's an sticky here in the forum. And lastly you have to check wakelocks... There's a good discussion about that here also.
I know it's kind of disappointing at the beginning, but when you finally understand all the symptoms of your phone you will solve all the troubles really quick... It's like having a newborn baby, at the beginning you don't know why they cry but when you learn about them you can identify every "kind of cry".
Best regards.
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how do fix D};<
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how do fix D};<
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Get another non LG phone .
But seriously, consider wiping this thing with either Rom for recovery or cleanup batch, then install fresh.
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Are you overclocking?
negative
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negative
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I just brought my "other" g2x online today with my personal creation (cleanup batch), followed by CM7 install. The same phone that was constantly overhearing, rebooting and what not was working fine all day today.
I recommend a wipe followed by fresh install.
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Bow your head for the android's prayer... I am an android, but I can change, if I have to, I guess
Reinstalling the rom? What a pain in the ass lol
Btw, what exactly is cleanup batch?
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Reinstalling the rom? What a pain in the ass lol
Btw, what exactly is cleanup batch?
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Cleanup batch = ROM for recovery - ROM push. Search in development thread.
I prefer it over ROM for recovery as it does not push T-Mobile stock, so you can go straight to CM7. With ics or jb read the fix for internal sdcard.
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Bow your head for the android's prayer... I am an android, but I can change, if I have to, I guess
no mo' overheating. boo ya
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no mo' overheating. boo ya
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How?
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Bow your head for the android's prayer... I am an android, but I can change, if I have to, I guess
turns out it was my extended battery pack. there was a lot of empty space cause of the back case that just coveted hot air xD
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turns out it was my extended battery pack. there was a lot of empty space cause of the back case that just coveted hot air xD
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That is odd, but as long as the problem is solved.
I say that because I used to have same battery pack and never had overheating.
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