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Feeling impatient

I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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Well I can't wait for froyo + full file system lag fix

If you're not satisfied with the current rate of development, feel free to put together your own rom or even contribute to current development. The phone is what, two, three months old? Some phones didn't even have root methods for that long. If you wanted an att device that had a background of strong community hacking, should have gone with an htc device. The method of building roms on this phone is massively different and requires time to get everything sorted. And I'm willing to believe a lot of devs are waiting fur for the 2.2 source
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.

gunnyman said:
Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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Kaik541 said:
You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"

Looks to me like you are a good candidate to get in the kitchen and start cooking. That way you don't have to wait around for the roms and we can all play.
I don't think it's a matter of lightening up, I agree the op surely said "where are the roms?" That could have ben interpreted more than one way, which it was. Coming from the op of the forum nazi thread, sounds like you have plenty of time to start cooking and stop whining
gunnyman said:
I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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alphadog00 said:
I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.

gunnyman; said:
Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Hey gunny, I know how you feel. I too am a bit bored. The rom development is great so far but that's starting to reach it's limit with what devs can do while we wait for froyo. I would love something new to play with. Maybe flash or some awesome game to come along that really pushes this device. Gps fix from sammysung would be nice. I could drive around using that to kill some boredom.
Anyway, props to the devs. Thank god we have some good ones. I would have been bored weeks ago without and with a laggy phone on top of that.

I understand both sides but unfortunately unless you know how to dev we all must be patient. These guys have done very good work and so far it is right on par with the Vibrant, and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS. With more time will come better products, and all Galaxy S phones will be waiting for a while for 2.2. If Cyanogen comes out soon it shouldn't be hard for Eugene or someone to make a port of it, even if Eugene does not own a Captivate.

There's no need to fight guys, in all seriousness we have the best touch-screen phone on the whole market!
Gorgeous screen, specs, and soon to be a great international community of devs with the whole family of galaxy s line sharing ideas and accelerating the growth of development at a great pace.
Not to mention the soon to be implemented froyo that will not only introduce optimizations and flash, but also allow for a greater use of the phone's potential- spec wise.
Take into consideration the further development after froyo + full lag fix + a COMMUNITY effort of collaboration and I see a really bright future ahead of us.
Personally I LOVE my phone, it does everything I want it to do (I multi-task like a beast!!) BEAUTIFUL camera software.. I painlessly take panoramic shots! What more can you ask for?
Yes some high quality games compared to that of the iphone would be great, but the anti-piracy measures are not on par with the iphone at the moment, so we'll have to wait a little for the big-name app/game developers to step in.

Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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This thread sucks.

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This thread sucks.
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I for one am enjoying the calm before the storm. That is, before froyo and CM6.1 are released, and all the subsequent hacking that will go with it.

beazie0885 said:
Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"

Dude. Quit reading into stuff that isn't there. As for donated monies, I have indeed done so in the past. Lots. I HAVE NOT (REPEATING AGAIN) disparaged anyone or their work in my thread or any post I have ever made hear on XDA (feel free to search) If I am complaining about anything it's samsung, And YOU at the moment.
I'll say again then I'm done in this thread. Lighten up Francis.

Kaik541 said:
I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
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Everyone take 5 deep breaths......
Better now?
And Kaik, I am NOT directing this at you personally, just used your quote. This is meant as a general comment not directed at any specific person....
Ok, I clicked on this thread because I could have written it myself, as it was intended. Which was obviously "Ok, I tried all the mods and now I want to try a new one or an update of 1 I already have."
For instance, as you can see from my signature, I run sre123. Last night, Designgears posted that 123a would be posted that night. I thought nothing of saying "ooo, can't wait, please hurry!!!" because DG knows how I meant it (I hope).
I have only seen a couple of REAL jerk posts, and those were like "hey thanks, your mod/rom broke my phone" idiots. Read the OP's and mod and your own risk, fools!
I have NEVER programmed. I understand what gets done here, having been a pc tech, but I can ONLY help by installing and testing and reporting results. This device and this forum has inspired me to try to learn what the guys like Cyanogen, Designgears, Eugene etc do. But until I learn, I will eagerly await new stuff to play with, much like the OP of this thread.
Sorry to type so long a note, but the ONLY thing that can ruin this forum is nazi's. I live in S Florida, got enough condo and homeowner association nazi's to deal with !!! =)

flashman2002 said:
..., and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS.....
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?

I want the GPS fix. All Galaxy S phones come with a nonfunctioning GPS. Froyo will be great to have also but they need hurry up with the GPS. The Droid X and all Motorola Android phones have an awesome GPS out of the box. I'm hoping Samsung gets it together otherwise they're not worth buying if it lacks a feature that most phones nowadays have. This problem from Samsung shows they rush things out to fast and then once they're out they fail to repair phones currently released.
I'll be eating my words if an update gets released within a week though.

ewingr said:
I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
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From what I have read about Dev's and Tmobile is mainly because Tmob was the first to have Android. Lots of them are familiar from being already on Tmob. But that is just what I have read, does not necessarily make it correct. The dev's for the Captivate are doing a phenomenal job getting us great products.
Highlighted portion: Joking aside since I know you are, if people are impatient they really should start learning how to do this stuff. The intent of the thread missed the mark based on how it was written. We all want more ROM's or theme's or launchers etc...and they are coming but nobody has any say to be impatient when the majority of these dev's do these on a donation basis. How bad would it suck when people continue to feel impatient and the dev's decide to not dev anymore?

Anyone else getting sick of the BS?

Seriously, I go to GTG's thread hoping for updates or legitimate bug reports or fixes and all I see is the same few people *****ing back and fourth. Literally making me sick seeing all that crap. Maybe those kids can grow up soon and business can continue as normal.
Bare minimum, can you guys please take your *****ing to an off topic thread? Hell, use this one if you have to, but please don't make those of us who actually care about development endure any more of your drama? thanks
You guys are seriously doing a disservice to the devs and in my opinion being very disrespectful to GTG, trivializing his hard work with your banter.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X

I totally agree with you. Sadly, asking them to stop doesn't work, only seems to encourage them to troll more. I feel bad for gtg and the other devs.
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gtg now has to start a new thread. that post was specifically for the v2. he is doing the best he can to establish the gb rom. but people flood that post like nothing to it, thats not even a v2 thread anymore. its a troll thread

My opinion is all this wok for the infuse by these devs is on their own time. They do the best they can with what they have. People need to stop harassing them for eta's and improvements, especially when they state that they are working on it before the complaints start. Before you complain read the first post, it most likely tells all.
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This section will improve 10 fold when Bella and the rest of the crying gang leave for SII. I personally can't wait.

Agreed. There are only a few people in that thread that continued to argue just for the sake of arguing. Hopefully they leave soon.
Infuse, infused...running gingerbread

It's so awesome to see a group of people who feel the same exact way I do. I don't even post like I used to anymore because of those trolls.

Another case of the few spoiling it for the many!
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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Corvette Dave said:
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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Agree Dave. A couple of lamers (bella incl) should not cause a dev thread to be locked. Although gtg is off fixing an issue and chose to take down the link for a bit, there are still ppl that could benefit from healty rom related conversation. Bella and a couple of other bella fanclowns have already indicated they're chomping at the bit to go to the SGS2. Good thing I am not moderating... Lol. I would have already helped them along with a ban from the infuse forums.
Corvette Dave said:
Another case of the few spoiling it for the many!
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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If only I were a mod.... someone hand me the BANHAMMER!!! GRRR!!!! haha

Agreed. I browse other threads too just to gain more knowledge, and I have never seen such users. This kind of thing is embarrassing, honestly. Honestly, they all stopped after getting a warning from the mod, but one specific user started the whole mess again by calling out Bella. So thank you to that user for ruining it for everyone.
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I agree 100%
There was no way to learn anything anymore.
I do agree that Neo should have and still should suspend the privelages of the habitual offenders. There are people who legitamately have problems and would like to discuss them in a respectfull manner and interact on an intelligent level. My kids and myself included!
The few bad apples ruined it for all! I feel bad for gtg and the others that work with and support him. He worked hard to make a test rom and got slapped in the face again by the people that clutter his thread with useless garbage.
There has got to be a better way!

SNadler said:
I agree 100%
There was no way to learn anything anymore.
I do agree that Neo should have and still should suspend the privelages of the habitual offenders. There are people who legitamately have problems and would like to discuss them in a respectfull manner and interact on an intelligent level. My kids and myself included!
The few bad apples ruined it for all! I feel bad for gtg and the others that work with and support him. He worked hard to make a test rom and got slapped in the face again by the people that clutter his thread with useless garbage.
There has got to be a better way!
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most of which that didn't even try the test rom

StoneColdCarl said:
I browse other threads too just to gain more knowledge, and I have never seen such users. This kind of thing is embarrassing, honestly.
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I really hope they all leave for the sgs2. Either that or at least that they end up getting banned from here. I can't believe how ungrateful they are for the work that gtg and others are doing. This kind of crap never happened in the captivate forums, so I hope it dies out quickly so the devs can get back to doing what they're best at. I know that if all of the trolling stops that they will be able to bring us greatness very soon. Neo...start swinging that banhammer! =]
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Do not know but I have a gut feeling that when some members who have problem with gtg's rom leave this sub-forum we will see many more roms apart from much better (coming) gtg's rom

My faith rests in Operation Iron Fist. Show us how it's done Neo. Pretty please.

If you want to see a more harmonious section then stop the mudslinging.
Creating a thread to say how 'awful' Bella is really isn't much better than Bella's complaining.
So now we have 2 threads *****ing about Bella and neither does anything to improve the rom/phone or even discuss the rom/phone.
Let's get 300 pages of 'yeah you suck' going because that will make things better? No, it won't, and let's not.
I don't agree with the way Bella handled himself but I don't see any good coming of the folks acting like kids as a response.
Just let these threads die so we can get back to normal and telling people "Read the first post" type stuff k?

Moderators need to act proffesional

Okay, I just wanted to share with everyone here how the mods act. Despite my good intentions with my thread yesterday about people considering temp root over S-OFF for simple bloatware removal, I was flamed into oblivion by the revolution whores here.
Now today, I wake up to find a moderator has decided to run it into my face with this PM:
mrg02d,
I wanted to let you know that your thread, S-OFF isnt for Everyone, READ first!,has been moved from the Sensation Generalforum to the trash forum.
Thanks!
benko286
Who the hell is the head nerd here? Id like to find out if this is out the "management" rolls?
Funny that I have more "thanks" than this asshole mod.
Oh well, I still have my GF and my great Electrical Engineering job! That, and so many other things to mention that OWN you, benk0286.
Id like a head mod to explain to me how this action by benko286 was in line with the forum?

mrg02d said:
Oh well, I still have my GF and my great Electrical Engineering job! That, and so many other things to mention that OWN you, benk0286.
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Wow! A girlfriend AND a job? That is proof positive that you clearly win at life and your thread should be moved back.
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And you need to learn how to spell, Mr. Electrical Engineer!

Here come the nerds to benkos side! Lets get it on. Sorry, I dont type as well as you do. My job doesnt require me to type, it requires me to THINK.
And yes, I win at life and have tiger's blood that would melt you.
To other mods that see this. This is what happens when you act like a ****head and PM people like Benko did me. Did you think I would let that fly? You cannot be a mod, do that ****, then expect people to let you get away with it.
This thread had no point other than to fight back AND let others see what kind of mods this forum has. I hope there are some decent mods that show up.

Oh yea, insulting someone's spelling is the most trivial method of flaming. It shows you have very little creativity, which is likely attributed to you being a sexually frustrated teen boy.
If you are going to flame, then do so with some ingenuity.
To the rest of this forum, the ones that either agree with me, or simply dont agree with flaming somone with a different opinion, this is just me letting out some steam over the poor moderation I see going on. I intend to return to normally scheduled programming, but thought that BENKO needed to be brought to justice. The community ought know who is "watching" them and editing their posts.
Matt

I agree with you at the spelling thing. its for people who are only Good at spelling, nothing else
I hates when some D-bag comes from no where and making a comment on missing letter go figure he finally found something that he know about.

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Oh yea, insulting someone is the most trivial method of flaming. It shows you have very little creativity, which is likely attributed to you being a sexually frustrated teen boy.
If you are going to flame, then do so with some ingenuity.
To the rest of this forum, the ones that either agree with me, or simply dont agree with flaming somone with a different opinion, this is just me letting out some steam over the poor moderation I see going on. I intend to return to normally scheduled programming, but thought that BENKO needed to be brought to justice. The community ought know who is "watching" them and editing their posts.
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FTFY
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I dont know what FTFY means...You forgot, I have a job and a life, little child.
I suppose you will tell me to google it? Well, I wont. Its no different than an immigrant speaking a different language to me knowing damn well that I dont speak theirs.
Matt

Wow pick your teddy and your dummy up.

mrg02d said:
I dont know what FTFY means...You forgot, I have a job and a life, little child.
I suppose you will tell me to google it? Well, I wont. Its no different than an immigrant speaking a different language to me knowing damn well that I dont speak theirs.
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You come to a "geeky" forum on the Internet and don't know what a simple abbreviation means? That's like being an "engineer" and not knowing how to spell professional.
Not everyone here is a little child with no life, by the way. But whatever makes you feel better!
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hurrpancakes said:
You come to a "geeky" forum on the Internet and don't know what a simple abbreviation means? That's like being an "engineer" and not knowing how to spell professional.
Not everyone here is a little child with no life, by the way. But whatever makes you feel better!
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That would be like an ENGLISH TEACHER not knowing how to spell professional...Seriously, you made that too easy!
Why would I know what that abbreviation means? Why would most people know what that means?
Well, it DOES make me feel better to know that you may be the only little child, with no life here. Thanks!
But this thread needs to get back on topic...This is to bring to light the fact that mods here need to step up their game and improve the quality of their work. This isnt the first time I have seen issues with mods mentioned. This forum likes to take pride in itself, yes? Well, you can only be as good as your leadership.

mrg02d said:
That would be like an ENGLISH TEACHER not knowing how to spell professional...Seriously, you made that too easy!
Why would I know what that abbreviation means? Why would most people know what that means?
Well, it DOES make me feel better to know that you may be the only little child, with no life here. Thanks!
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Sorry, I thought in 4+ years of higher education, a grown adult with a *gasp* girlfriend would know some simple spelling, or realize how immature it is to fly off the handle in a public forum for no reason.
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@Matt - I feel your pain man. Sometimes as mods, people get a little over zealous with their cleanup powers. Just remember, one mod doesn't necessarily express the views of the whole community.
I was entertained by your thread personally. It was a great alternative for people not wanting to go through the whole process.
Also, remember, with the nature of this forum, its bound to attract adolescents. I'd put my money on that, there the ones who derailled your thread. As for spelling, well, I have large thumbs and don't check my spelling ever. Especially when typing from mobile devices.
Sit back and relax with a fresh cup of Joe! Pm another mod and kindly ask them to resurrect your thread from the trash. Don't let the interwebs upset you. Lives too short for drama.
I like original thoughts, hence engineers!

skygear said:
@Matt - I feel your pain man. Sometimes as mods, people get a little over zealous with their cleanup powers. Just remember, one mod doesn't necessarily express the views of the whole community.
I was entertained by your thread personally. It was a great alternative for people not wanting to go through the whole process.
Also, remember, with the nature of this forum, its bound to attract adolescents. I'd put my money on that, there the ones who derailled your thread. As for spelling, well, I have large thumbs and don't check my spelling ever. Especially when typing from mobile devices.
Sit back and relax with a fresh cup of Joe! Pm another mod and kindly ask them to resurrect your thread from the trash. Don't let the interwebs upset you. Lives too short for drama.
I like original thoughts, hence engineers!
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Finally, someone with some decency around here! Its like a breath of fresh air!
Also, thanks for splash of cold water! I needed it...You have a point about the the bugs I have been attracting.
Amazing what coffee can do!
Where might I find a list of mods?
Thanks!
Matt

I'll look around for the list. On the forums I mod/ admin on, the mods names are on the designated forum so all can see. Not the case here.

Not only have them resurrect it, see if they'll delete any trolling comments as well.

This guy seems reasonable http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2235607 I pm'd him the other day.
But yes- should have removed the OT posts instead of trashing the whole thread.
By the way, sorry to see a new member treated is such a manner. Not a very warm welcome to the community.

You need to stop Matt. A PM to the mod would be best.... Not posting a new thread to get flamed again.
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I find it funny that op is calling everyone a child yet he is the one that made a thread complaining about moderators on an internet message board.
Sounds like whining to me.
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To be honest it's was a pointless thread.

Undead is leaving the MT4GS

FYI.
Think what you want about the guy, he kept ROMs moving when there was only two guys working on our device. I for one will miss his work. He pushed development away from shades of stock and in interesting directions. He is moving to a Samsung Galaxy S Epic II.
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Coug76 said:
FYI.
Think what you want about the guy, he kept ROMs moving when there was only two guys working on our device. I for one will miss his work. He pushed development away from shades of stock and in interesting directions. He is moving to a Samsung Galaxy S Epic II.
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He might have been the King of Kang, but he did some good stuff with the phone. Dem ROMs.

That's a bummer, I know a lot of people enjoyed his work. I however will not miss his attitude, I stopped using any of his work months ago because of the way he talked to people. I much prefer to support Blue, because he is very helpful, and approachable, and is always respectful. I am bummed for the people who enjoyed Undead's work though.

yellowjacket1981 said:
That's a bummer, I know a lot of people enjoyed his work. I however will not miss his attitude, I stopped using any of his work months ago because of the way he talked to people. I much prefer to support Blue, because he is very helpful, and approachable, and is always respectful. I am bummed for the people who enjoyed Undead's work though.
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Being a developer is stressful. I for one would have his same attitude if I was a developer. He did have a bad attitude at times but he supported his work to the fullest. No other dev for DS can say that.
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Who cares about his attitude?
I've never encountered him acting out on anyone, granted I've only been in this community for the past few weeks or so, but does that matter?
He was great at making roms, and graciously released his work to all of us. He even kept up a great update schedule. Devs are not here to be your friend or guidance counselor. And they also have no obligation of being nice to anyone. Releasing their work to everyone is nice in itself.

gtmaster303 said:
Who cares about his attitude?
I've never encountered him acting out on anyone, granted I've only been in this community for the past few weeks or so, but does that matter?
He was great at making roms, and graciously released his work to all of us. He even kept up a great update schedule. Devs are not here to be your friend or guidance counselor. And they also have no obligation of being nice to anyone. Releasing their work to everyone is nice in itself.
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It is my right to think he had a bad attitude and boycott his work. I also didn't like him cutting out common features from a rom just to make it faster, when this device is already fast enough for anything I need it to do, so I choose to use something else. I think no matter what anyone does, they can be respectful when talking to people. That doesn't mean being a friend or guidance counselor, it just means being respectful. Also there were other issues that caused him to get banned from xda, so I am not the only one who has an issue with the guy (just sayin').

Anytime a dev leaves a community, it's generally a bad thing.
I totally respect the fact that he put a lot of time and energy into building these ROMs, however, I never really felt like he *owned* any. Most developers tend to build a ROM that they use, and improve it. Undead built like a bazillion ROMS, and I never felt like he really personally used/supported any of his creations.

yellowjacket1981 said:
It is my right to think he had a bad attitude and boycott his work. I also didn't like him cutting out common features from a rom just to make it faster, when this device is already fast enough for anything I need it to do, so I choose to use something else. I think no matter what anyone does, they can be respectful when talking to people. That doesn't mean being a friend or guidance counselor, it just means being respectful. Also there were other issues that caused him to get banned from xda, so I am not the only one who has an issue with the guy (just sayin').
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Of course it is your right. I never said it wasn't. And as I said before, I've never seen him act out.
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jonnycat26 said:
Anytime a dev leaves a community, it's generally a bad thing.
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+1
Every time.

I think the biggest impact would be to out counterparts in the rootzwiki. Without him, I think that forum is gonna go quite... quiet.
Meanwhile, I don't think it's a good idea for members in this community to be flaming at each other--we're supposed to support each other, aren't we?
It sucks that he left (here and mt4gs in general) - whether we regard him as king kang, or DS's savior, but we'll have to move on. I'm probably gonna write him a PM over at rootz saying thanks for his contribution for MT4GS later today.

You know, I couldn't help but chime in here; I'm a freelance developer, and don't get to develop a lot for anything but work. So this brings me to a short manifesto (sorry I'm a marxist and I like to use the word when I can), even though it's just a list of observations I want to share:
1) No 'community' is better without someone [I hesitated to say anyone ]
1a) I feel this attitude is such a contradiction to the intent of
open-source. In other words, open-source, just not open-attitude.
1b) I'm not trying to be insulting, but I find it funny you
comment on the red-herring of someone's age, when I would think
someone closer to my age (I'm gathering you too are a gainfully employed
adult; we'll just say closer to 40 than 30 =) )...so I try to liken it to
working with people you don't necessarily like; caveat here is no ones
making a lot of/any money, so try to be a little more appreciative and
a little less judgmental (think off all these peeps work as a favor). Which
brings me to...
1c) "...he got into deving for this phone for the wrong reasons. This was
inevitable. I'm surprised he stuck THIS long." We need to get together
and start a business if u can read minds, and what the "wrong reasons"
for learning rom development might be...well I'll be thinking
on that one for a while
2) Is this even verified? I'm about to PM him and ask....he's been nothing
but polite and cordgial from what I've seen.
3) "That is the kind of quip Undead would regularly let go. And why???
Completely unnecessary." Ever occur to you that the community(YOU)
should complain about the post and get it removed? If it's that
bad it will be?
3a) Personally, I'd rather devs work on what they do best, bringing
us great ROM's!
3b) Maybe the community needs to police itself a little, your post
seemed to be pointless, IMHO; I mean, apparently you don't like
this guy, but I bet you use his $hit.
EDIT: Confirmed, he's finishing up some of his current stuff and moving on to another device...even mentioned the XDA rift as one of the reasons...guess you can make software open-source, but peoples' attitudes are just as big a barrier.
That's all...soap box is someone else's now

shanigami said:
You know, I couldn't help but chime in here; I'm a freelance developer, and don't get to develop a lot for anything but work. So this brings me to a short manifesto (sorry I'm a marxist and I like to use the word when I can), even though it's just a list of observations I want to share:
1) No 'community' is better without someone [I hesitated to say anyone ]
1a) I feel this attitude is such a contradiction to the intent of
open-source. In other words, open-source, just not open-attitude.
1b) I'm not trying to be insulting, but I find it funny you
comment on the red-herring of someone's age, when I would think
someone closer to my age (I'm gathering you too are a gainfully employed
adult; we'll just say closer to 40 than 30 =) )...so I try to liken it to
working with people you don't necessarily like; caveat here is no ones
making a lot of/any money, so try to be a little more appreciative and
a little less judgmental (think off all these peeps work as a favor). Which
brings me to...
1c) "...he got into deving for this phone for the wrong reasons. This was
inevitable. I'm surprised he stuck THIS long." We need to get together
and start a business if u can read minds, and what the "wrong reasons"
for learning rom development might be...well I'll be thinking
on that one for a while
2) Is this even verified? I'm about to PM him and ask....he's been nothing
but polite and cordgial from what I've seen.
3) "That is the kind of quip Undead would regularly let go. And why???
Completely unnecessary." Ever occur to you that the community(YOU)
should complain about the post and get it removed? If it's that
bad it will be?
3a) Personally, I'd rather devs work on what they do best, bringing
us great ROM's!
3b) Maybe the community needs to police itself a little, your post
seemed to be pointless, IMHO; I mean, apparently you don't like
this guy, but I bet you use his $hit.
EDIT: Confirmed, he's finishing up some of his current stuff and moving on to another device...even mentioned the XDA rift as one of the reasons...guess you can make software open-source, but peoples' attitudes are just as big a barrier.
That's all...soap box is someone else's now
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Wow. I'm impressed. That was very well said. FYI @_atlien_ I'm 27. I just got no patients for peoples stupidity. I pmed undeadk9 a long message. Thanking him for the time he did develop for us. Also @_atlien_ It is YOUR attitude and YOUR Stupidity asking bout unmarrying android and Google was by far the most stupid request I've even seen on any forum. YOU bring out the worst in people. Just saying. Rather then pointing fingers at undead why don't you look in the mirror. When people ask stupid questions it tends to piss off people. The community would actually be better off without YOU. Not undeadk9.
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AndroidBotx said:
wait wait wait...aren't you the same idiot who thought it was a good idea to "unmarry" android and Google? Lmfao. You might as well just keep your mouth shut. You got zero creditibilty in this discussion. I'm not even a dev and I know its not possible.
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Don't worry buddy, I've reported you
Technically it is possible to a certain extent. Just don't install any gapps

Ive never even seen anything undead released, i just got this phone last weekend, anyways its always sad to see a developer leave the scene, i come from the evo shift forums and we had some good development but nothing was updated and maintained there was always a new release that never seen updates, and i stepped up and did everything i could for them, and it was a very rewarding adventure....btw never sell anyone short because you all just got a couple new users than can dev a bit lol
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To all the trouble markers on here.

This is only to about 10%-15% of people on xda
To all the Crybabies and idiots on here. This site was a good place to find good stuff. Well that is getting harder to do now in alot of the threads because there seems to always be a couple people in just about every thread on the damn site that cant get along with anybody and always want to argue and start **** everytime something doesnt go exactly thier way. Get a life stop creating headaches in everone elses life. Devs are leaving this site left and right because of all this **** and it is getting worse everyday. If you dont like something in a thread get the hell over it and move the **** on to another thread. I mean damn there are plenty of other threads to goto its not like your ****in world will end or someone will miss your Whining ass in that thread. People need to understand that devs do this stuff for free on their own time. If you think its so easy try it yourself and then if you get it figured out post a thread and see how you handle assholes starting **** in ur thread. Just grow the **** up and get over it.
P.S.
I am easy to get along with and try to help whoever I can just ask anybody in the threads I post in so dont jump in here and say oh what an asshole. Sometimes people just need to hear/read the truth so I figured I would say what alot of people on hear probably want to say but usually dont.

Probably inappropriate. Sorry.

Its not just me dude. Most people on here are tired of all the crap that gets started on here and nobody says anything about it thats why they keep doing it.

Well said boss. The fact people can't appreciate free is ridiculous
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I have to agree. One, bucks a stand up guy. Don't believe it? He's a member of another site that I'm on, I won't mention the name because I don't want some idiot who thinks he is an internet badass to start trolling that site. I've been a member that refused to post for a very long time due to all the nonsense on here. This place helps you make your device awesome, gives it faster/better software with more features and your choice of UI design, and if you want to you can poke around and find some good info and learn to do some of this yourself. All for free. Unfortunately there is this attitude that some people here have, I swear its like you bought something you cry so much. I bet the same people that do this here are the douchesacks that whine in resteraunts trying to get free meals. We should all thank you for your useless contributions to society. You slow things down, you cost businesses money so prices go up partly because of you, and you freak out at the drop of a hat to get your way, and you're usually STUPID as a rock to boot! (to any rocks that were offended, my apologies)
Seriously, look at the name of the site. Xda developers. Meaning the people here that are posting things are developing them. Not releasing perfect software the first try. And yeah, a lot of them have donate buttons in their sigs, but how often do they really get used? And how often do they really profit off of it? Between the whining @ devs and squabbling over what is better and blasting newbs who can't find a damn thing in hundreds of trash posts I think its safe to say the minority on this site have absolutely ruined it for the others.
Oh, and before someone comments on my post count, trust me, its more than high enough on my home site. I'm not a dev but I'm no idiot either, I spent months teaching myself what i wanted to know here, and after spending countless hours wasted sifting through 'is it done yet?' It's taking so long' sense is better' nu-uh, aosp is' and sadly my knowledge of all things android tripled in one month on another site. So i went by the rules and kept my mouth shut, hit the search button till it was sore, and all I learned is that there are a group of babies on here that really need to go get a life.
To those who have tried to make this a place of learning, growing, and pushing the limits of our respective devices, thank you. Both for what you have done for android and for strangers, and for tolerating the dingdongs on this site. Good night.
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buckhunter said:
Its not just me dude. Most people on here are tired of all the crap that gets started on here and nobody says anything about it thats why they keep doing it.
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cmonsterf50 said:
Well said boss. The fact people can't appreciate free is ridiculous
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You're both exactly right
The problem is the change in user demographic since Android's inception. There was a lot more respect here before every twelve-year-old and his six-year-old brother had a smartphone.
That's not to say younger members are the root of all evil, of course Just the majority of it

To any rocks that were offended?? Lmao!! Hilarious.
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juzz86 said:
You're both exactly right
The problem is the change in user demographic since Android's inception. There was a lot more respect here before every twelve-year-old and his six-year-old brother had a smartphone.
That's not to say younger members are the root of all evil, of course Just the majority of it
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Well even if they aren't younger members, they certainly act like it lol.
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Very true.

There will always be whingers. That's what people like to do when they have nothing constructive to say.
I usually like to high five them in the face with a brick shaped object.. made out of brick

Lmao! I just shot coffee out of my nose. On a serious note, its good to see a few people here have their wits about them. Uh oh, I better watch it, I'll go over my post limit.
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urrgevo said:
Lmao! I just shot coffee out of my nose. On a serious note, its good to see a few people here have their wits about them. Uh oh, I better watch it, I'll go over my post limit.
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Post limit thats just stupid.
Clean that up lol

sorry this has to close it is a spam fest