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Im confused, does the DHD definitely have an SuperLCD screen? or is it a standard LCD screen?
Sources either way would be appreciated
It's a SD-LCD that was made especially for this phone. It stands for Super Duper Lemon-Cherry Drops
ynischa said:
It's a SD-LCD that was made especially for this phone. It stands for Super Duper Lemon-Cherry Drops
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Point taken, edited
To awnser your question, it has S-LCD.
It is stated everywhere when you search on google. Couldn't find a offcial statement from HTC that fast, but if you just search you find it out.
Why do you want to know?
(S-lcd has uses IPS instead of a tn-panel) No I can't explain what it means. Lolz :')
I wanted to know because i had read that it hadnt
They claimed that HTC never actually said it does (and i couldnt find anywhere that stated it did) and people just assumed it was SLCD...
Thats why i wanted sources
Then why does it say 'Amoled' when you go on web pages which offer pay monthly/pay as you go deals?? But after research it has been confirmed as S-LCD
No it hasn't got Amoled. The site you read that state that are wrong.
It initially was the planning to put AMOLED on there, but the manufacturer of those displays had problems. Therfore HTC wouldn't get the AMOLED displays.
The more recent articles (that aren't faulty) state that is has S LCD.
A source that is right most of the time is pocketnow.com. They also state when it's about a rumor or when is it is real and what their sources are.
Pocketed.con ok I'll be using that site from now on thanks.
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desire HD has an improved LCD screen, 16M colors, improved black levels and sharp definition
however its not SLCD, levels between white and black are a little washed out and its viewing angles are weak
compared to the HD2/EVO screens its much better, its actually a little cleaner compared to the SLCD desire screen (more successful text anti alising) however the colours and view angles are weaker, its also possible to see the pixel grid in grey areas if you are too picky
coming from SLCD desire to the DHD screen, it felt like a downgrade in quality, few days after i started to like it, the definition is very smooth and at 4.3 inch everything is more enjoyable
quarintus said:
To awnser your question, it has S-LCD.
It is stated everywhere when you search on google. Couldn't find a offcial statement from HTC that fast, but if you just search you find it out.
Why do you want to know?
(S-lcd has uses IPS instead of a tn-panel) No I can't explain what it means. Lolz :')
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Okay if S-LCD means IPS then DHD definitely doesn't have an S-LCD.
If it's IPS then the viewing angle should be really wide.
Talked to HTC
So I did some research.
So I called HTC to ask the question. The girl had to look up it. Said: it's TFT LCD. I said: I know. But is it S-LCD, it's a new generation of screens, you used it also one the normal Desire when it wasn't an AMOLED screen.
She said it are the newer screens.
In this forum someone has it in his title that he emaild HTC and they said it is SLCD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8185304
So it probably is S-LCD.
This last youtube video is probably the explanation why HTC hasn't stated it's SLCD and that is actually is S-LCD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuvacCCVXw
But when I hear the girl laughing when she tell it, I can't stop thinking they just called it Super-LCD to mock samsung with their Super AMOLED and it is stil a regular S-LCD.
Good day. Could anyone post a picture of the Sensation side by side with a Xperia Arc? This are the two phones that i consider purchasing. I would want to see how they compare physically. I know the dimensions but would just want to see them side by side. Thanks
I found this video online comparing those two and a few more, hope it helps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srS03zyRwv4
Thanks alot for the link. By the way, i was just wondering why the HTC sensation has a darker screen compared to the others while the Xperia Arc has the brightest screen. For those that have both, could you share which has a brighter and more readable screen when using the internet?
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Thanks alot for the link. By the way, i was just wondering why the HTC sensation has a darker screen compared to the others while the Xperia Arc has the brightest screen. For those that have both, could you share which has a brighter and more readable screen when using the internet?
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This can be altered on all phones so why should brightness matter?
I am not familiar with both devices thats why i was wondering why the htc sensation had the dimmest screen and why the person who posted it in youtube didnt bother to adjust it before making the video. Hope that someone who have both devices could share their experience with both screens.
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I am not familiar with both devices thats why i was wondering why the htc sensation had the dimmest screen and why the person who posted it in youtube didnt bother to adjust it before making the video. Hope that someone who have both devices could share their experience with both screens.
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It's often been noted in reviews that the Sensation's screen degrades quickly as the viewing angle varies from straight on. When they set up a shot like that it's almost never straight on. Thus the screens with better viewing angles shine. I'm waiting until I can hold it to judge the screen for myself.
I also read that the xperia arc has problems with viewing angles, but on the video, it has a nicer screen than the sensation. I wonder why.
I only noticed my Sensation had it's screen on a fixed level after a week of use (while I was fiddling in the settings) so guessing most 'reviewers' don't bother to check either. It's made one hell of a difference in day to day.
On another note, I'm not overly fussed about viewing angles. If I wanted someone to see the screen I'd show them, not have them looking over my shoulder.
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With the My Touch 4g I'm sure you MT4G users will remember the good screen/bad screen issue. Where one lcd panel was made by sony, and the other was made by sharp. The Sharp lcd screen would wash out more on an angle than the sony. I have read some people speculate that the sensation might have the same "issue"
It has been confirmed that the Sensation has two different LCD panels. One made by Acer (AUO) and one made by sharp. The sensation does not have a good screen bad screen issue. Some people prefer the acer screen and others prefer the sharp. I have had both and they both are really beautiful displays. You can only really tell the difference if they are side by side.
To find out which panel you have:
Use terminal emulator (free from the market) and run the command dmesg (root is not needed obviously)
it will output a bunch of stuff.. look for this line and report it: (if you can't find it you can long press on the output in terminal emulator copy all and then paste it into an email and send it to yourself)
just look for the line (the numbers might not be the same) [ 9178.895111] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_??????
Mine is sharp so my line is Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP
If you have searched and can't find reboot and try again.
Pics I took of the two side by side:
AUO on left/top Sharp on right/bottom:
https://picasaweb.google.com/113479...&authkey=Gv1sRgCPTX9bjj3NDrbQ&feat=directlink
I have
Panel_ID_pyd_AUD_NT
MADE IN TAIWAN
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN..IS IT SHARP OR SONY
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martinchavez90 said:
I have
Panel_ID_pyd_AUD_NT
MADE IN TAIWAN
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN..IS IT SHARP OR SONY
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Hmm I dont think it's either. So We know for sure there at are least 2 panels used. The Sharp and the AUD_NT(not sure which company that is)
Mine was also made in Taiwan
PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP
Made in Taiwan 6/1/2011 shipping date
Panel_id_pyd_sharp
Made in taiwan, 6/2/2011
Mine is made in Taiwan.
Panel = Sharp
graffixnyc said:
Hmm I dont think it's either. So We know for sure there at are least 2 panels used. The Sharp and the AUD_NT(not sure which company that is)
Mine was also made in Taiwan
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Well I would like to know what it is BUT COLORS ARE AWESOME .. NICE AND RICH AND BLACKS ARE PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO MY SGS4G... great viewing angles .. no touch screen problems and no tint ..
Also date on the box is 5/31/2011
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Aren't "super LCD" displays only made by Sony? If so, why in the world would we have displays made by Sharp?
sharp for me.
EDIT: I'd like to note that I think my screen looks fantastic. Viewing angles are great. I like it just as much if not better than my N1 amoled.
brian85 said:
Aren't "super LCD" displays only made by Sony? If so, why in the world would we have displays made by Sharp?
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I thought I had read that too somewhere that super lcd's are only made by sony.
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Tmobile 6/1/11
Pannel Type = PYD_AUO_NT
Display is ok, has some odd banding effect with white text on black background like the text found in the settings menu.
Mines is sharp as well. This is interesting though. I'll definitely check for this when replacing my sensation.
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graffixnyc said:
I thought I had read that too somewhere that super lcd's are only made by sony.
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I just emailed HTC about it.
I'm interested in seeing what their reply says...they got caught!
Just kidding, but yeah everything google says about SLCD is that it's a joint venture by Samsung and Sony, not Sharp!
I have a "sharp" panel myself
shipped date is 5/27/2011
read this:
2008: Sony and Samsung announce that due to increased demand, a second 8th Generation production line will operate in the S-LCD factory in the 2nd quarter of 2009.[1] S-LCD may be headed by Samsung alone as Sony has announced a joint venture with Sharp Corporation, in order to compete effectively with Samsung, a task made difficult by their current collaboration.[3]
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I'm interested in seeing what their reply says...they got caught!
Just kidding, but yeah everything google says about SLCD is that it's a joint venture by Samsung and Sony, not Sharp!
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I checked out wiki and it seems they committed to a joint venture with sharp in 2008.
"2008: Sony and Samsung announce that due to increased demand, a second 8th Generation production line will operate in the S-LCD factory in the 2nd quarter of 2009.[1] S-LCD may be headed by Samsung alone as Sony has announced a joint venture with Sharp Corporation, in order to compete effectively with Samsung, a task made difficult by their current collaboration."
Here's the source: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20080327/149601/
EDIT: haha homais just beat me to it!
Ah, you beat me. Just saw that only wikipedia lol
But SLCD isn't made by Samsung (which is what that paragraph says, unless I'm reading it wrong), so I wouldn't trust the rest of the article.
Hi all, I moved form galaxy s to sensation and been wondering about screen ghosting. Is every sensation have this ghosting when circle through the screen and scrolling? This is not happen in galaxy s at all. Sensation is great (fast, stable, love sense 3.0) but this bug me a little.
I have this issue. Its really annoying, some users call it tearing..dont know proper word. It can be clearly seen when scrolling white text on black background. Black text on white background is not so bad but overall screen is low quality by my opinion. Terrible viewing angles also. My old desire has alslo slcd but its much better quality. Another issue can be seen when browsing xda forums trough browser..when scrolling whole screen is changing colors, blinking slightly..Will wait for new nexus and then I will sell it..
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Its called screen tearing yes, the pixel response time from a color change or screen movement causes this effect. The sensation has different screens but from my observation all have the ghosting effect, but its only noticeable with black pixel change, some colors can be harder to change rapidly against other colors and it seems to be the case with the sensation screen.
hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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I certainly do not have this problem. Even when scrolling a white text on a black background (like in settings), the text is still very sharp and clear
AFAIK, Sensations' LCDs are manufactured by few different companies.
There are "good batch" and "poor batch" sensations, similar to any other htc's smartphones (eg: HD7)
I have read about few people having this problem in this forum. Try getting a replacement, Hopefully, that one wont be having this issue anymore
I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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pete777 said:
Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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Its sad that htc is using lower quality displays in theirs flagship..
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jrwingate6 said:
I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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aim1126 said:
Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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never got that in sgs which is last year model. that's y i am a bit annoyed as i upgrade not downgrade.
my cousin's sensation has this ghosting its really bad, the screen response time is very low anything higher then 30FPS will revel bad ghosting
my desire Hd has very slight ghosting
my old classic desire SLCD/Amoled screen had non of this
sensation XL has an amazing IPS screen with very high response time
so i dont know, lets hope HTC learned how bad this is, ICS is 60fps GPU accelerated UI, low response screens are not welcome
hard to believe we are discussing LCD response times in this time and age, i wanted to buy my cousin's sensation but now i stopped
oh and by the way the HD2 4.3" have non of the ghosting or pattern issues what the hell?!
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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This... just took apart a defective LCD I got from China. It's an Acer brand unit that looks fuzzy as if there's a film on the screen.
I had a Sensation when they first came out (Sharp screen) and knew I had a new faulty LCD the minute I turned this one on. Needless to say is going back and I'm in the hunt for a Sharp unit. Not worried about dust as I'm going seal it up real good when i finish the repair
Lol I've opened this phone up so many times in the last couple days i can swap screens perfectly in less than 20 mins from start to finish
Yes i can agree i have never had this problem either
Hiya, I have jest received my Sensation yesterday and compared to my Desire the viewing angles are shockingly bad, as soon as you go off centre then it fades out.
I thought these were supposed to be better than the desire!!
How is everyones elses??
Depends which panel you have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
I'd take it back and demand a replacement, and to see the replacement working before I accepted it.
Had the Sharp panel on my Vodafone-branded handset, got the Acer one on my Unbranded handset. Not a huge difference as I don't look at the phone from acute angles
nickosbad said:
Hiya, I have jest received my Sensation yesterday and compared to my Desire the viewing angles are shockingly bad, as soon as you go off centre then it fades out.
I thought these were supposed to be better than the desire!!
How is everyones elses??
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Mine is pretty good as a LCD screen. No, it doesn't have the widest view angle compared to other LCD screens I've seen, but it's not bad at all.
I also own a Desire, the original one with AMOLED screen. You cannot compare view angle of AMOLED screen with LCD screen (you can, but it isn't fair). Because of the construction difference, AMOLED has much much wider view angle than LCD in general. AMOLED also has much deeper black (because pixels can be turned off individually). I wish HTC would continue to release phones with AMOLED screen, but as of right now, Samsung has most of the control over all the AMOLED screens. Let's hope that other screen manufacturers will catch up with Samsung AMOLED technology very soon.
I had an SLCD on the Desire and it had better viewing angles as well, my sensation has the sharp panel, so yeah it's actually the first thing I noticed when I got the phone, it doesn't bother me much now though.
I think the viewing angle is ok, but not outstanding.
Acutally I dont care at all, because I allways watch it faceing me
I have an Acer and I could hold it vertical and still read everything fine xD It's not perfect and clear like it would be if you had it straight in front of you, but if it's legible and I can see the icons and widgets then that's pretty good for me.
yeah..i agree.and i dont want others to see what im doing with my phone specially when im writting text messages to someone.right?
i dont notice any bad viewing angles
I think that the gorilla glass makes a little difference as well.
Acer, and I dont notice any problem with viewing angles.
I dont really look at it from funny angles though to be honest
EddyOS said:
Depends which panel you have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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wow great find man
diceberg said:
wow great find man
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LOL....100+ page thread is a great find. Pretty sure everyone who frequents the sensation forums has read at least part of that one.
Lol yup..pretty much that's all we did before we had S-OFF.We just hung out in the general forum and complain about trivial stuff,since we had nothing better to do like flashing awsome Roms,themes and mods. Oh,what a depressing time that was!
compared to my old oled desire. The sensation lcd looks much better and natural. Viewing angles are acceptable(very good in fact) too. however if compared to my friend's incredible S, the sensation screen is actually inferior.
Overall I'm quite pleased and no complain with the higher res. Cheers.