Confirmed: The Sensation LCD Screen is made by two manufacturers - PICS ADDED - HTC Sensation

With the My Touch 4g I'm sure you MT4G users will remember the good screen/bad screen issue. Where one lcd panel was made by sony, and the other was made by sharp. The Sharp lcd screen would wash out more on an angle than the sony. I have read some people speculate that the sensation might have the same "issue"
It has been confirmed that the Sensation has two different LCD panels. One made by Acer (AUO) and one made by sharp. The sensation does not have a good screen bad screen issue. Some people prefer the acer screen and others prefer the sharp. I have had both and they both are really beautiful displays. You can only really tell the difference if they are side by side.
To find out which panel you have:
Use terminal emulator (free from the market) and run the command dmesg (root is not needed obviously)
it will output a bunch of stuff.. look for this line and report it: (if you can't find it you can long press on the output in terminal emulator copy all and then paste it into an email and send it to yourself)
just look for the line (the numbers might not be the same) [ 9178.895111] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_??????
Mine is sharp so my line is Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP
If you have searched and can't find reboot and try again.
Pics I took of the two side by side:
AUO on left/top Sharp on right/bottom:
https://picasaweb.google.com/113479...&authkey=Gv1sRgCPTX9bjj3NDrbQ&feat=directlink

I have
Panel_ID_pyd_AUD_NT
MADE IN TAIWAN
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN..IS IT SHARP OR SONY
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martinchavez90 said:
I have
Panel_ID_pyd_AUD_NT
MADE IN TAIWAN
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN..IS IT SHARP OR SONY
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Hmm I dont think it's either. So We know for sure there at are least 2 panels used. The Sharp and the AUD_NT(not sure which company that is)
Mine was also made in Taiwan

PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP
Made in Taiwan 6/1/2011 shipping date

Panel_id_pyd_sharp
Made in taiwan, 6/2/2011

Mine is made in Taiwan.
Panel = Sharp

graffixnyc said:
Hmm I dont think it's either. So We know for sure there at are least 2 panels used. The Sharp and the AUD_NT(not sure which company that is)
Mine was also made in Taiwan
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Well I would like to know what it is BUT COLORS ARE AWESOME .. NICE AND RICH AND BLACKS ARE PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO MY SGS4G... great viewing angles .. no touch screen problems and no tint ..
Also date on the box is 5/31/2011
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Aren't "super LCD" displays only made by Sony? If so, why in the world would we have displays made by Sharp?

sharp for me.
EDIT: I'd like to note that I think my screen looks fantastic. Viewing angles are great. I like it just as much if not better than my N1 amoled.

brian85 said:
Aren't "super LCD" displays only made by Sony? If so, why in the world would we have displays made by Sharp?
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I thought I had read that too somewhere that super lcd's are only made by sony.

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Tmobile 6/1/11
Pannel Type = PYD_AUO_NT
Display is ok, has some odd banding effect with white text on black background like the text found in the settings menu.

Mines is sharp as well. This is interesting though. I'll definitely check for this when replacing my sensation.
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graffixnyc said:
I thought I had read that too somewhere that super lcd's are only made by sony.
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I just emailed HTC about it.

I'm interested in seeing what their reply says...they got caught!
Just kidding, but yeah everything google says about SLCD is that it's a joint venture by Samsung and Sony, not Sharp!

I have a "sharp" panel myself
shipped date is 5/27/2011

read this:
2008: Sony and Samsung announce that due to increased demand, a second 8th Generation production line will operate in the S-LCD factory in the 2nd quarter of 2009.[1] S-LCD may be headed by Samsung alone as Sony has announced a joint venture with Sharp Corporation, in order to compete effectively with Samsung, a task made difficult by their current collaboration.[3]

gotzta said:
I'm interested in seeing what their reply says...they got caught!
Just kidding, but yeah everything google says about SLCD is that it's a joint venture by Samsung and Sony, not Sharp!
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I checked out wiki and it seems they committed to a joint venture with sharp in 2008.
"2008: Sony and Samsung announce that due to increased demand, a second 8th Generation production line will operate in the S-LCD factory in the 2nd quarter of 2009.[1] S-LCD may be headed by Samsung alone as Sony has announced a joint venture with Sharp Corporation, in order to compete effectively with Samsung, a task made difficult by their current collaboration."
Here's the source: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20080327/149601/
EDIT: haha homais just beat me to it!

Ah, you beat me. Just saw that only wikipedia lol

But SLCD isn't made by Samsung (which is what that paragraph says, unless I'm reading it wrong), so I wouldn't trust the rest of the article.

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SLCD?

Im confused, does the DHD definitely have an SuperLCD screen? or is it a standard LCD screen?
Sources either way would be appreciated
It's a SD-LCD that was made especially for this phone. It stands for Super Duper Lemon-Cherry Drops
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It's a SD-LCD that was made especially for this phone. It stands for Super Duper Lemon-Cherry Drops
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Point taken, edited
To awnser your question, it has S-LCD.
It is stated everywhere when you search on google. Couldn't find a offcial statement from HTC that fast, but if you just search you find it out.
Why do you want to know?
(S-lcd has uses IPS instead of a tn-panel) No I can't explain what it means. Lolz :')
I wanted to know because i had read that it hadnt
They claimed that HTC never actually said it does (and i couldnt find anywhere that stated it did) and people just assumed it was SLCD...
Thats why i wanted sources
Then why does it say 'Amoled' when you go on web pages which offer pay monthly/pay as you go deals?? But after research it has been confirmed as S-LCD
No it hasn't got Amoled. The site you read that state that are wrong.
It initially was the planning to put AMOLED on there, but the manufacturer of those displays had problems. Therfore HTC wouldn't get the AMOLED displays.
The more recent articles (that aren't faulty) state that is has S LCD.
A source that is right most of the time is pocketnow.com. They also state when it's about a rumor or when is it is real and what their sources are.
Pocketed.con ok I'll be using that site from now on thanks.
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desire HD has an improved LCD screen, 16M colors, improved black levels and sharp definition
however its not SLCD, levels between white and black are a little washed out and its viewing angles are weak
compared to the HD2/EVO screens its much better, its actually a little cleaner compared to the SLCD desire screen (more successful text anti alising) however the colours and view angles are weaker, its also possible to see the pixel grid in grey areas if you are too picky
coming from SLCD desire to the DHD screen, it felt like a downgrade in quality, few days after i started to like it, the definition is very smooth and at 4.3 inch everything is more enjoyable
quarintus said:
To awnser your question, it has S-LCD.
It is stated everywhere when you search on google. Couldn't find a offcial statement from HTC that fast, but if you just search you find it out.
Why do you want to know?
(S-lcd has uses IPS instead of a tn-panel) No I can't explain what it means. Lolz :')
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Okay if S-LCD means IPS then DHD definitely doesn't have an S-LCD.
If it's IPS then the viewing angle should be really wide.
Talked to HTC
So I did some research.
So I called HTC to ask the question. The girl had to look up it. Said: it's TFT LCD. I said: I know. But is it S-LCD, it's a new generation of screens, you used it also one the normal Desire when it wasn't an AMOLED screen.
She said it are the newer screens.
In this forum someone has it in his title that he emaild HTC and they said it is SLCD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8185304
So it probably is S-LCD.
This last youtube video is probably the explanation why HTC hasn't stated it's SLCD and that is actually is S-LCD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JuvacCCVXw
But when I hear the girl laughing when she tell it, I can't stop thinking they just called it Super-LCD to mock samsung with their Super AMOLED and it is stil a regular S-LCD.

Sensation Display Quality - Differences Between China Or Taiwan Units

Would everyone post here whether their Sensation was made in China or Taiwan? There is a understanding going around here that the Sensations made in China use a better display, Sony, compared to the Taiwanese, Sharp. Please post your display observations/experience here, also input from people who have had both versions would be really helpful.
Starting with mines, its made in Taiwan. Coming from the HD2, I compared them side by side and the Sensation is NOTICABLY brigher and more vivid. Its also sharper, ofcourse due to the QHD resolution. However, on my phone, if I lay it flat on a table, the colors do seem washed out, its not the same as looking straight at it. Ofcourse, it is LCD. I am still on the fence if I should exchange it at Walmart, I still have 8 days to decide. But I have a feeling that most of these units are from Taiwan? Someone here had both, and according to him, his current Chinese unit is better than AMOLED in quality and also outside in sunlight.
Don't think we needed another thread, but Taiwan and no issues here.
It seems like people are getting too paranoid over this screen stuff.
The sensation uses a Super LCD display...it says right on the back of the box. Super LCD displays are made by Sony. If we are being given displays made by Sharp, that wouldn't be a super LCD display, right? If so, HTC would be lying to us.
Looks like all of them will say made in taiwan anyways
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103549
I received my sensation last week, but because the earpiece speaker saturated, i sent it back online for a replacement. The screen was very nice although viewing angles where bad.
Man I regret my decision. I received my new one today. The crap lousy sounding earpiece still saturates and distorts during call. but now I GOT A TOTALLY different screen, A NASTY one. viewing angles tint the whole display redish, but that i dont care, what I care is the god damn SCAN LINES effect. the lines between pixels are much thicker on that one, makes it look grainy, and the ghosting, I have never seen so much ghosting. Im pissed :/
Mine says made in china under battery. and box does not say SLCD (although its a french box)
Looks like most people having screen issues own the european sensation.
The original one i had was fine tho. I think Made in China will soon start to pop in US as well. we just got the phone much earlier than you that might be the reason.
Could be my imagination but it also seems more colorful. But i could be imagining that.
Mine is a sharp made in taiwan.
Doing the command dmesg I found Panel Type PANEL_ID_PYD_SHARP listed there.. BUT I do not see the same issue with this screen that was going on with the MT4G screen where the sharp screen would wash out more on an angle. Now I'd like to see it side by side with a Sony one to see if there is much of a difference or if they chose to use two manufacturers again
to check use terminal emulator and run the command dmesg it will output a bunch of stuff.. just look for the line <6>[ 9178.895111] Panel Type = PANEL_ID_PYD_??????
I think this is just a rumor that spilled over from the MT4G forums because it was in fact an issue there... I'm curious to know now. My screen looks pretty damn nice and it's sharp, wondering if they did make sony one's if they are in fact better or not... Time will tell I'm sure when someone has two side by side.
PurpleSkyz said:
I received my sensation last week, but because the earpiece speaker saturated, i sent it back online for a replacement. The screen was very nice although viewing angles where bad.
Man I regret my decision. I received my new one today. The crap lousy sounding earpiece still saturates and distorts during call.
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Sorry for off top, but did you find a solution to this? I have the same saturation issue on mine from Vodafone Germany.

How to tell if you have the Sony or sharp slcd

How can you tell if you have the Sony (better) or the sharp (worse) slcd screen...is their a common serial number string?
I haven't seen anyone who has got sony slcd..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
Should have what your looking for
ciaphuas said:
How can you tell if you have the Sony (better) or the sharp (worse) slcd screen...is their a common serial number string?
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It's Acer(AUO) and Sharp.
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that one screen is better than the other??
The mega thread that's already discussing the 2 display makers has by no means reached a unanimous decision as to which screen is best....just so you'll know.
As one would suspect.....for the most part....people who have Acer, like it.....people who have Sharp, like it.
I have a Sharp and I can't see how this display could be anymore gorgeous
Hoggles said:
I have a Sharp and I can't see how this display could be anymore gorgeous
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Samoled would make this the greatest phone known to man. Too bad Samsung has the rights for now. Jerks.
I do agree though, Sensation screen is gorgeous, just not the best.
Now can we close this thread, it's already being discussed elsewhere.

New to the Sensation, question about display.

Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is less intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!
My screen suffers from yellowing at more than 30° or so, but no scan lines like you mentioned. I know there was a lot of discussion about the screen when they first came out and 2 or 3 different screens were used for the displays. I have a sharp screen on mine for reference.
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I also have a " sharp" screen on mine. No lines at all. If it bothers much perhaps exchange it for one without lines. (i don't think they are supposed to be their anyway) as for contrast my daughter just got a s3 and our screen compared to the s3 screen is very poor in my opinion. Our colors seem washed out and light compared to her vivid bright screen . But I'm not really complaining I don't seem to notice unless I do a side by side comparison. If I were you I would take back the device for one without lines! Problem could worsen in the future and I know not every sensation has them. Mine doesn't . Best wishes to you .
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biomech91 said:
Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is way too intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!
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I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.
I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
It's a shame about the washed out colours, but it could be worse.
fahad.mq said:
I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.
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My mistake, I meant to say the gamma was less intense. It seems very washed out and less saturated than my Incredible S. The blacks and whites are better though.
My only problem with the screen is that the blacks aren't black enough. Well.. I suppose that's true to all colors.. as you guys said..they're a little bit washed out.
Beside that..no scan lines and the viewing angles never disappointed me.
The scan lines-not normal.
Being washed out, highly reflective, blacks that aren't black enough, maximum brightness that isn't very good for outdoor use, and the like-normal.
biomech91 said:
I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
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I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.
Louer Adun said:
I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.
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Is the warranty two years? The little slip inside the box says 12 months, which would mean this phone is out of warranty by now. (I got it from someone who upgraded their phone)
I've taken a picture of the scanlines here.
Ignoring the vertical lines that both phones have at this zoom, you can see the Sensation has faint horizontal lines running across it while the Incredible S doesn't. Not sure if that's just how the display quality is on the Sensation.
Make sure you zoom into the full size image to see.
EDIT: Sorry for double posting, I didn't realize.
Last time I spoke with HTC customer service was to get a replacement mainboard for my wife's HTC Vision/G2. When I was on the phone I inquired about my HTC Sensation warranty, as I was surprised that the G2 was even under warranty still (G2 had a 15 month warranty I believe). If I recall correctly the warranty period they told me was for two years. I was thrilled to hear it, as I was under the assumption pretty much all phone warranties were for 1 year. Give HTC a call and see what their terms are, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Also, I have some pics that I took a while back that have the Sharp screen side by side with the AUO screen, but I haven't yet located them. When/If I do, I will post them for your reference.
Edit: I am using the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G, not sure if this has an influence on the warranty terms, but it could (different SKU compared to European version).

Need new phone, One S ?

I currently got the HTC Desire HD and kinda love it. But it starts to get too slow, battery gets worse and so I thought about getting a new phone.
The HTC One S looks nice, perfect size, good performance, good camera and due to the AMOLED it looks like the battery last long enough as well.
But how does the AMOLED display quality look like compared to e.g. my Desire HD ? How abour reading from the display at sunny days?
Thanks
Get it you won't be sorry. Screen is a thing of beauty.
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I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.
Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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MidhunCN said:
Make sure HTC sells the s4 version of the phone your country.
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Ye I would get the S4. I am just curios about the AMOLED quality compared to other phones. Besides that it should be perfect for me
TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.
xona said:
TBH I love my AMOLED. Colors are nice and sharp and its barely pixelated.
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TBH to me it was straight out pixalated, I have an S3 & Amaze and no noticeable pixels anywhere. just my opinion
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The display is great and one thing, which definitely deserves more praise rather than just being slated by a number of people and review sites. Sure the screen isn't as good in terms of sharpness and screen real estate compared to the GS 3, one X, GN and SE phones due to the 720P res. but the colours of it are superb and IMO better than the GN (too dull), GS 2 (too over saturated), SE phones (personally not really keen on their displays when it comes to the colours) and also the GS 3 screen, but the best thing about the one S screen is just how good it performs when in sunlight (as in sun shining right on the screen), I can see stuff (even on black backgrounds) without even having to squint my eyes (and that isn't even with 100% brightness, only like 70% brightness selected) where as with the GS 2 etc. I always have to cover it slightly with my hand in order to make a text or website etc. out. And with my S, there is no yellow/blue tints at all, no matter what brightness I put the mobile to, whites are extremely bright white (better than my dell U2311H), this will vary from unit to unit though.
IMO the desire HD has one of the worst displays ever, colours are extremely washed out, viewing angles are non existent, and it isn't that sharp either.
I do notice the pentile matrix, however, I only notice it when I have my face right up to the screen or am really concentrating on trying to spot the effects of it. The most noticeable areas I notice it are on the notification icons and white/grey text on black backgrounds.
From one of the best sites when it comes to hardware stuff and so knows what they are talking about:
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
Although as always, you should check out for yourself first to see what you think.
Imo, I would get the OneS if I were you.
I also came from the DHD, an moved forward after the no update fiasco.
I am on pre-pay and did not want to sign a contract again, actually ever but that's another issue, so I shopped around for the OneS on sell in different places. I could not swing full retail so I looked for NIB phones that are turned over fast.
Well long story short is, I looked and looked for a slightly used phone and never scored one sadly, I would up grabbing a OneX NIB for under 400 and couldn't say no to that price.
However I still like an want a OneS, nice form factor coming from the DHD and really is a sharp looking phone.
Would I suggest one to my friends, in a heartbeat.
Get yourself a OneS an rock on.
WR
Rattled off a KingCobra OneX
rul3z said:
I got it recently, chose it over OneX and S3 because of its size, and couldn't be happier with it. You won't be sorry if you get One S. Search similar threads for more info.
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Same here. One X is so awesome big Take One S S4 - great phone. But remember using a case when you order the black version, cause after some time the color in the edges turns silver...

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