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[Q] Display readable in sunlight?

To the lucky ones who received their Sensation... I've a Desire Z for the moment and would like to buy a second one, focusing on the Sensation.
I've been hating not being able to read my display in sunlight, far away of what I saw on ithings, even with full bright display settings.
Is it the same on the Sensation? if so, I might look for another phone (Galaxy S2?) because I can't tolerate it anymore :-(

The Sensation ain't gonna be much different than other LCDs, like the Desire Z. The SGS2 might have an edge since the glass is thinner (less glare) and the contrast can be bumped very high. However, if you really want a good outdoor display, you might wanna just get the Optimus Black since it has a 700 nit LCD. It falls a bit short on specs but it is very slim and light.

silverwolf0 said:
The Sensation ain't gonna be much different than other LCDs, like the Desire Z. The SGS2 might have an edge since the glass is thinner (less glare) and the contrast can be bumped very high. However, if you really want a good outdoor display, you might wanna just get the Optimus Black since it has a 700 nit LCD. It falls a bit short on specs but it is very slim and light.
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Super LCD can be readable in the sun depends on who makes it if you read engadget flyer review the tablet was readable in the sun.
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Never said LCDs were unreadable.

I've just put my HTC Sensation in direct sunlight, and the screen is very readable. Much better than my HTC Desire AMOLED ever was, in fact. I tried to take a photo to show you all, but it came out very badly. The surface of the screen is a lot "glossier" than the Desire's, but it must be able to reach a higher brightness level.

great to know thanks alot... im tired of not being able to see in direct sunlight with my super amoled galaxy s

Is your galaxy s on CM7? That's the only easy I can see you not being able to read this screen in direct light. Speaking from experience when I flashed CM7, that was the ONLY time my screen appeared dim.
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no i have the s 4g.... and i am very pissed with this phone cant wait until june 8th to get my sensation and give away this phone i cant stand much longer then to talk about how the gps literally had me driving in circles and lost... i was tempted to toss it out the window

I think it can.
I canot speak English very well . and please understand me.thanks!

Sensation screen is very readable under direct sunlight

boostedb16b said:
no i have the s 4g.... and i am very pissed with this phone cant wait until june 8th to get my sensation and give away this phone i cant stand much longer then to talk about how the gps literally had me driving in circles and lost... i was tempted to toss it out the window
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Calm down maybe we can get you interested in SGII? Hahaha j/k
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sjgore said:
I've just put my HTC Sensation in direct sunlight, and the screen is very readable. Much better than my HTC Desire AMOLED ever was, in fact. I tried to take a photo to show you all, but it came out very badly. The surface of the screen is a lot "glossier" than the Desire's, but it must be able to reach a higher brightness level.
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Good to know, thank you! I may now reconsider staying with HTC

It's not relevant in UK, we don't get enough sun here anyway.
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epsix said:
Calm down maybe we can get you interested in SGII? Hahaha j/k
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i honestly will not buy another samsung phone... i tried to trick my co worker into trading my sgs4g for his myt4g and he was like yea at first then he was like lets switch simcards and see how it goes after he felt how light the phone was in comparison he was like oh hells no... and he is not into tech and stuff like that.. but he sure as hell knew what quality felt like compared to light toy feeling junk.

As I understood from reviews out there, the Sensation screen is a step forward under sunlight compared to Desire and DHD but still behind Arc and SGS2.
With my DHD I can read the screen with the 9am sun but not with the noon sun (perhaps more UVs?) I wonder if the Sensation will perform better in both scenes!
IF yes then I hope the speaker will be at least 2x more powerfull than the tweaked DHD one (custom kernel) and my choice is made for the Sensation

When I first got my sensation, I was one of the ones that complained about the screen in bright sunlight.
I've just been out today (it's very sunny ) and it's much better, very readable in fact.
Probably something to do with me turning 'auto-brightness' on in the last week!

If any of you have upgraded from an HD2, how does the Sensation's screen readability in sunlight compare to the HD2? I have an HD2 and it's pretty much completely washed out in direct sunlight.

Text rendering flicker while scrolling

So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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Hmm happens with just about any moving element on the screen.
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Figured out what it was. Different screens.
PANEL_ID_PYD_AUO_NT
That screen has the grain and the text motion blur/fuzz issue.
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Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.

xSDMx said:
Same problem here, I'm not sure what to do. I would like to not have the flicker, but besides that issue, my phone is perfect. And, I've heard the Sharp display is definitely not without its issues.
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I'm planning to exchange mine. Held the two side by side and I like the sharp one better. Doesn't bother the eyes as much. What other problems have you heard about the sharp display?
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I've just heard about it having really poor contrast. Which is a big issue to me, because the SLCD already has poor contrast. Besides the flicker, the AUO looks excellent to me. I guess I'll see how annoying it gets. Stupid HTC. How can it take them this long to release an unlocking OTA? Jeez.

I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.

tinky1 said:
I believe this visual effect is more obvious on sensation because of higher resolution. Both screens have it, sharp and aou. Also, other screens on previous devices had it, but since resoluyion was lower and letters appeared bigger you didn't notice it. Just my 2c.
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The last LCD phone I used was the G1... and yah you're right, it was there too, just had nothing better to compare it with to notice it at the time.
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.

Running Sloth said:
But since I'm coming from an N1, its kinda like.... whoaaaa whatdafuchhhhh?
Shellshock.
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My initial reaction coming from Desire SLCD was exactly the same.

Running Sloth said:
So I've not been in LCD land for a while, but decided to indulge in a Sensation as my N1 was just becoming too old for my taste.
I miss the deep blacks and extreme viewing angles. But this screen isn't so bad.
One question though. I notice that while scrolling the text seems to kind off flicker. Like its struggling to keep up with the pixel refresh.
Is this normal?
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This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.

Knucklessg1 said:
This is not normal, several User's have found that they have different LCD types
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
And having one might affect the text when scrolling. Although not confirmed, this could also be a simple software issue. When we gain root access, trying a new ROM could help because HTC Sense is still not polished and there are bugs that can affect these types of problems.
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True, was reading up on that thread after I wrote on this one. I tried both panels side by side at a TMO store and found that it is the screen that causes the issue.
Its not as pronounced on the Sharp Panel, lot better, vs the one I have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
Here is a video of the flicker. For the record.

Question about the screen S4G

Good day fellas,
I'm seeing a lot of video and comments on screen comparisons between Htc sensation 4G and Gs 2 and on.
My question is, I'm currently on SG 1 looking to upgrade to either sensation 4G or GS2, I'm concerned about the screen quality, I'm debating wether I should order the phone or not. I can get it at a very low price (employee pricing).
The phone has a higher res. Screen, I'm trying to convince myself that the difference in screen quality is not that big, but I would like you guys to tell me what you think from your experiences, is the GS2 worth the extra $, is the screen really that much better than the S4G, anything else from your point of view that should be considered???
Thanks in advance,
Rodi
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I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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The_Green_Android_Robot said:
I bought a sensation, and quite frankly, it is the best phone I have ever had. It is pretty well built, and feels awesome to hold.
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+1
No screen washout for me, as well.

Also something to add, in almost all the videos comparisons, when looking at the phones side by side the sensation looks practically white in comparison to the gs2. My only concern with the phone is the screen.
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I personally got a Sensation while my GF has a GS2, you can clearly see that both screens aren't the same: one is SLCD & the other is AMOLED.
The GS2 has saturated, neon-ish colors which at some times seem a bit too much, it is particularly notable in the android market: the green is VERY saturated. When put side by side it can make the Sensation seem very washed out.
I have also read on wikipedia that AMOLED displays have a shorter life compared to SLCD because of the organic components in it. The varied lifespan of the organic dyes can cause a discrepancy between red, green, and blue intensity. This leads to image persistence, also known as burn-in.
After a few weeks of use I've got used to my phone and am truly happy about my display, even though it isn't as saturated as the GS2 it still is a great LCD display with rich colors, clear whites & deep blacks and my movies look crystal sharp on it. Also the extra resolution is very much appreciated and is quite notable when I compare it to my GF's GS2, specially in the menus, mails & internet browser - the pixels aren't noticeable.
What I can tell you is that I was faced with the same choice as you: HTC Sensation or SGS2 and the display was also the most important thing for me since it's the way you interact with your phone. And i'm glad I chose the Sensation

Cool thanks for the info, I just ordered it from my work
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[Q] LCD Ghosting?

Hi all, I moved form galaxy s to sensation and been wondering about screen ghosting. Is every sensation have this ghosting when circle through the screen and scrolling? This is not happen in galaxy s at all. Sensation is great (fast, stable, love sense 3.0) but this bug me a little.

I have this issue. Its really annoying, some users call it tearing..dont know proper word. It can be clearly seen when scrolling white text on black background. Black text on white background is not so bad but overall screen is low quality by my opinion. Terrible viewing angles also. My old desire has alslo slcd but its much better quality. Another issue can be seen when browsing xda forums trough browser..when scrolling whole screen is changing colors, blinking slightly..Will wait for new nexus and then I will sell it..
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Its called screen tearing yes, the pixel response time from a color change or screen movement causes this effect. The sensation has different screens but from my observation all have the ghosting effect, but its only noticeable with black pixel change, some colors can be harder to change rapidly against other colors and it seems to be the case with the sensation screen.

hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?

Shu. said:
hmm ... I've been using my sensation for 3 months now, ... never had screen tearing. Maybe you can ask for a replacement?
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Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.

ingnarn said:
Seriously u don't have that problem? even when scrolling in setting like scroll slowly (the white text is blur)? confirm this pls and i'll go exchange it tomorrow.
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I certainly do not have this problem. Even when scrolling a white text on a black background (like in settings), the text is still very sharp and clear
AFAIK, Sensations' LCDs are manufactured by few different companies.
There are "good batch" and "poor batch" sensations, similar to any other htc's smartphones (eg: HD7)
I have read about few people having this problem in this forum. Try getting a replacement, Hopefully, that one wont be having this issue anymore

I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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pete777 said:
Is this definitely hardware issue? Not a smallest chance it can be fixed with some update? anyway htc sucks producing "good" and "bad" batches..
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It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.

Shu. said:
It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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Its sad that htc is using lower quality displays in theirs flagship..
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jrwingate6 said:
I have used 6 Sensations. Four of them had this problem and all four displays were the one made by Acer. It was very noticeable in the settings menu. The two Sharp panels my wife and I have do not do this.
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My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.

The Janitor Mop said:
My Sharp panel has this problem. Just pointing this out so that people won't think getting a Sharp screen will automatically solve the issue.
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Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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aim1126 said:
Every screen does to certain extent even my iPad ips panel has some ghosting. The acer panel on the sensation definitely shows it more than the sharp though
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never got that in sgs which is last year model. that's y i am a bit annoyed as i upgrade not downgrade.

my cousin's sensation has this ghosting its really bad, the screen response time is very low anything higher then 30FPS will revel bad ghosting
my desire Hd has very slight ghosting
my old classic desire SLCD/Amoled screen had non of this
sensation XL has an amazing IPS screen with very high response time
so i dont know, lets hope HTC learned how bad this is, ICS is 60fps GPU accelerated UI, low response screens are not welcome
hard to believe we are discussing LCD response times in this time and age, i wanted to buy my cousin's sensation but now i stopped
oh and by the way the HD2 4.3" have non of the ghosting or pattern issues what the hell?!

Shu. said:
It's hardware. not really an "Issue" .... just lower quality displays compared to other ones.
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This... just took apart a defective LCD I got from China. It's an Acer brand unit that looks fuzzy as if there's a film on the screen.
I had a Sensation when they first came out (Sharp screen) and knew I had a new faulty LCD the minute I turned this one on. Needless to say is going back and I'm in the hunt for a Sharp unit. Not worried about dust as I'm going seal it up real good when i finish the repair
Lol I've opened this phone up so many times in the last couple days i can swap screens perfectly in less than 20 mins from start to finish

Yes i can agree i have never had this problem either

New to the Sensation, question about display.

Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is less intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!

My screen suffers from yellowing at more than 30° or so, but no scan lines like you mentioned. I know there was a lot of discussion about the screen when they first came out and 2 or 3 different screens were used for the displays. I have a sharp screen on mine for reference.
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I also have a " sharp" screen on mine. No lines at all. If it bothers much perhaps exchange it for one without lines. (i don't think they are supposed to be their anyway) as for contrast my daughter just got a s3 and our screen compared to the s3 screen is very poor in my opinion. Our colors seem washed out and light compared to her vivid bright screen . But I'm not really complaining I don't seem to notice unless I do a side by side comparison. If I were you I would take back the device for one without lines! Problem could worsen in the future and I know not every sensation has them. Mine doesn't . Best wishes to you .
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biomech91 said:
Hi guys,
I've recently picked up a Sensation, and I can't help but notice how "odd" the screen looks in comparison to my Incredible S. I've read in reviews that it is a bit disappointing in terms of viewing angles and such, and that's true. It also looks as if there are faint scan lines running across it (like a monitor that has an incorrect refresh rate) and the gamma is way too intense.
Is this just how the Sensation's screen is or does mine have some issue? I may simply be really used to the Incredible S display.
I'm loving the phone otherwise.
Thanks!
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I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.

I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
It's a shame about the washed out colours, but it could be worse.
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I haven't used the Incredible S before, but a quick search reveals it has a 800x400 16M color S-LCD screen, the same tech in the Sensation's screen (except the higher resolution).
You're saying gamma is more intense than Incredible S, if this is the case then the Sensation may be calibrated with more vividly than the Incredible S. Does your Sensation screen have colours similar to AMOLED screens? How does the white balance look? I find my Sensation screen to be much more neutral than the typically over saturated AMOLED screens (which is how S-LCD should look like, factory default). White balance looks great too on my Sensation, pretty close to 6500K.
I've never seen scan lines on my Sensation, this is most likely the biggest clue you've given that your screen may have defects. Would be much more easier for everyone if you can post a picture of your actual Sensation screen on.
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My mistake, I meant to say the gamma was less intense. It seems very washed out and less saturated than my Incredible S. The blacks and whites are better though.

My only problem with the screen is that the blacks aren't black enough. Well.. I suppose that's true to all colors.. as you guys said..they're a little bit washed out.
Beside that..no scan lines and the viewing angles never disappointed me.

The scan lines-not normal.
Being washed out, highly reflective, blacks that aren't black enough, maximum brightness that isn't very good for outdoor use, and the like-normal.

biomech91 said:
I've got an AUO screen myself. Is it possible my eyes are adjusting to it? I'll give a week and see how it goes.
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I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.

Louer Adun said:
I had another Sensation with an AUO screen and found it sort of unpleasant to look at. I think it was something to do with the way the pixels were arranged, made the text look fuzzy. I also remember the screen having more of a pink/purple hue compared side by side with the Sharp screen, but I don't remember seeing any sort of scan lines.
If you just bought it from a retail outlet, I would see if you could get an exchange. If not, I guess its up to whether you want to deal with exchanging it with HTC (it should still be under their 2 year warranty), or deal with the screen as is.
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Is the warranty two years? The little slip inside the box says 12 months, which would mean this phone is out of warranty by now. (I got it from someone who upgraded their phone)

I've taken a picture of the scanlines here.
Ignoring the vertical lines that both phones have at this zoom, you can see the Sensation has faint horizontal lines running across it while the Incredible S doesn't. Not sure if that's just how the display quality is on the Sensation.
Make sure you zoom into the full size image to see.
EDIT: Sorry for double posting, I didn't realize.

Last time I spoke with HTC customer service was to get a replacement mainboard for my wife's HTC Vision/G2. When I was on the phone I inquired about my HTC Sensation warranty, as I was surprised that the G2 was even under warranty still (G2 had a 15 month warranty I believe). If I recall correctly the warranty period they told me was for two years. I was thrilled to hear it, as I was under the assumption pretty much all phone warranties were for 1 year. Give HTC a call and see what their terms are, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Also, I have some pics that I took a while back that have the Sharp screen side by side with the AUO screen, but I haven't yet located them. When/If I do, I will post them for your reference.
Edit: I am using the T-Mobile HTC Sensation 4G, not sure if this has an influence on the warranty terms, but it could (different SKU compared to European version).