Little insight please... - HTC Inspire 4G

Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.

Ok everyone's going to tell you to root lol. Its really a personal preference. As for ocing i found that it really smooths out the overall performance of the phone. I personally enjoy the custom roms. I think that is what the general thought will be. Also having root access lets you change things like boot animation and other system things like that. It really just makes the phone fully customizable and also allows you to remove bloat ware.

vdubguy83 said:
Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.
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Of course it is. That's not to say the phone isn't great out of the box.....It is.
I didn't have the urge to root right away, because I was happy with the phone as it was... For awhile.
Then, I got sick of wading through ATT **** in my apps just to find the stuff I wanted. I wanted to back up my apps/data. I wanted amazon market...
So the most important thing for me was... Having CONTROL of my phone. I don't want to be at the mercy of ATT or HTC. It was more the principle of it.
Now, I've realized how much potential the device REALLY has, thanks to XDA devs, and being rooted gives you options.
It's up to you whether you want to do anything to the phone, but at least you have a choice in the matter if you're rooted.

My take is that if you can not leave well enough alone and want to squeeze out every possibility out of something then root. If you are going to just use the phone to make calls and messaging without concern for the little things (few extras like Netflixs etc), then don't bother. It it plenty capable being stock. To be honest (just my opinion) I really cant tell mine is rooted other than the few little custom features I added. It was smooth before and just as smooth now. I know one thing, my signal and data speeds have not change any....again just my opinion. Would I do it again, sure..its addictive. But then again I have a little OCD built inside of me

Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?

vdubguy83 said:
Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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The hack kit worked great on my mac. I actually had trouble on my boot camp so i swithed over to mac and finished it up. I did make the gold card with my pc. Tb is nice i have used it to remove bloat ware but not for backing up apps but it should do the trick. It will back it all up to your micro sd card though. So remember that when you go to make your gold card.

vdubguy83 said:
Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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Titanium backup is an excellent choice, especially for apps, and the removal/freezing of bloat. Many people choose to do it manually, but titanium backup is certainly a worthwhile purchase, imo.
Just be careful backing up and the restoring system data with titanium backup when changing roms, as a lot of problems can occur when restoring old system data to a new ROM.
I personally used bubby's "simple root," what you refer to as "one-click," (there's nothing truly "one-click" about rooting this phone ), but the hack kit is more functionally capable in terms of other non-rooting, but related tasks you may need to do someday. Not to mention the usability of the hack kit has improved considerably from the time when I first rooted and chose bubbys method.
With the hack kit, you need to make sure you flash a proper, fully functioning ROM after you've completed it, as the ROM it leaves you with is not intended to be the ROM you keep on the phone going forward, as I understand it.

Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?

vdubguy83 said:
Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?
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You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.

Carlrobling said:
You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.

vdubguy83 said:
No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.
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I've never tried it unrooted so I didn't know for sure.

Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Inarius03 said:
Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?

Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.

Carlrobling said:
Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.
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Sence is ok, I believe that's what I put on her phone (rcmix). What's the battery life on miui?

Carlrobling said:
You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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My understanding is that you can use the same gold card for multiple devices.
Perhaps I got my wires crossed when recalling the discussion about it... It might very well be the same *SD* card they were referring to, but I'm really inclined to think the same gold card is re-usable.
At the very least, now I'll have to go double-check.
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Here's the discussion I was referring to.

Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.

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Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.
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To the rescue, once again.

Thanks that's works. Maybe ill just pop hers out and use it.

vdubguy83 said:
Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?
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Should definitely give Virtuous a try. Much like CoreDroid, but little smoother even. Double-tap to zoom on websites is almost always instantaneous, whereas on other roms, it tends to lag.
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Hi gang, just got my gorgeous Inspire

I've been wanting an Inspire for a long time and thought I would have had to pay full price for it rather than a consignment deal. Looks like I was wrong and I went ahead and snagged one.
This is just a purely outstanding phone. It is AT&T's version of the DesireHD and I've been using a DHD ROM on my HD2 for quite some time now. I'm very familiar with the ROM my Inspire has, all the setup and functionality, and setting this Inspire up was nothing new. There are a few minor difference here and there, though. I can say it is definitely smoother and cleaner and quicker than DHD on my HD2.
Not really sure if I will try to root it or not. The last time I tried to root a genuine Android phone was nothing shy of a pain and misery of frustration. It was a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G and it just would not root. That was the first and only time I ever attempted a root. It left me with a very sour experience. However, not being rooted, I can't use my backup programs like MyBackup or Titanium. Nor can I use my screen capture app, ShootMe. I don't really need to use any of those, though.
Anyway, I'm enjoying my Inspire and I look forward to interacting with and being "Inspired"...lol...at the XDA Inspire community.
I was a newbie with rooting but once I did it it was EASY and worth it.
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Some Android phones can be easily rooted than others. It all depends on the manufacturer and model of the phone. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. Here are links to two proven methods of rooting the Inspire if you are interested...
HTC Inspire Hack Kit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Use the Simple Root but trust me, save yourself some later hassle and click the "Fixes" option when you're done and flash the ENG S-OFF (radio S-OFF) so if you change radios, you don't lose S-OFF plus you get engineering features like fastboot (allows you to flash new radio images for one but also allows you to try out images before you actually flash them, through fastboot, which can be handy when you aren't sure about something or you are testing a new ROM)
Guys, the user experience with this Inspire is just getting better and better. It now is super fast compared to my experience with HD2 DHD ROMs. The boot-up is almost instantaneous and the page loading in menus like Manage Apps is so much faster now.
I doubt I will ever even root this glorious machine. I'm admiring like an iPhone.
For anyone on the fence about a purchase, Hell yes! Let it have a couple days of break-in and you will see the difference from first turning it on. I'm just glad I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The Atrix is a super nice machine, but I just don't believe it can top the silky-smooth and top-notch user experience of the Inspire.
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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The Inspire has some serious appeal. I still love my iPhone 4, but the Inspire has a quality all its own. My serious personal view of the DesireHD/Inspire 4G is that it should be the actual Android flagship smartphone. The OS...Android 2.2.1...combined with HTC's Sense 2.0 is just purely the cream-of-the-crop. The lag some people complain about with Android just isn't even a hint in this OS and on this hardware. I owned a WP7 HTC HD7 for about half a year and found the UI to be the smoothest I'd ever experienced. There was nothing that was a smooth. That was then, this is now. This Inspire is easily just as smooth, quick and clean as that WP7 HTC HD7. And the battery life is a little bit better, too.
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
Sukuiku said:
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
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For what root provides, I just see no desire to do it. The sum total of the apps I won't be able to use are currently 3, MyBackup Root, Titanium backup Pro, ShootMe. For how well this phone works and how clean it is, I'm wanting to keep the iPhone style feeling I have with it. Rooting it and such would just lead to a mess for me. It would strip away the pristine cleanness and purity of this fine piece of hardware.
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
Sukuiku said:
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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If you mean skins, don't worry about the them. I installed a bunch of them on mine and there is no risk that I can see. Currently using the Wildflower HD and it works just like the original. I think I have 20 skins installed.
There isn't really much risk rooting the phone - the only real risk is if you apply ENG S-OFF because that involves replacing the bootloader and if something goes wrong there, you're bricked.
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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tjb433 said:
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting is well worth the trouble. And to me, having all the bloatware removed yields a more pristine nature...
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MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
oh ho! wadd up brother!
RogerPodacter said:
Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
MartyLK said:
No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
P00t said:
yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
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This is the reason I haven't rooted. I'm tech-savvy, but not a developer or anything. I see countless threads related to issues that seem to have risen from rooting. Either an issue arises during the process, or something happens that wouldn't have happened without root. And then there's that "you could brick your phone" deal. I'll stay unrooted.

[Q] Q time!

Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
There is a stock rooted Rom on here which you can use that will let you do what you want.
As for the roms, I know everyone has their preference but gtg's inspired saga gingerbread Rom is pretty much flawless. Even have it on my wife's inspire and she never complains about anything not working. I am sure others are very good as well.
wdkingery said:
Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
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All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
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With the exception of maybe App2sd.
But indeed, rooting is pretty much a must-do activity.
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Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
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sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
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sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
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Let me remedy that for ya.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015206
I think there's only a handful of us around here that use this ROM as their day to day ROM...and mostly its because it's so close to stock. Not many bells or whistles with this one.
oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
Take a breath. You will catch on and yes it can be reversed if you need to send in for insurance though if the phone is split in half you may have trouble running the stock ruu and getting s-on.
Check the thread in dev section on data speed to see apn settings I believe they are listed in there.
i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
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I meant to tell ya that with the Ingersoll ROM, well with most of the ROM's in the dev section, wifi hotspot is enabled by default. I have used it and can verify that it works perfectly..just enable wifi hotspot in the settings. Oh and AT&T won't ever know either...though there is some debate about that.
Or like Newter555 says, do the research and you can add the APN's yourself.
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i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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Follow the sticky guide at the top of this forum and you should breeze right through it.
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
wdkingery said:
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
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If you used the attn1 method he mentions that you have to flash a ROM to get sound back. Do you have rom manager installed? It can install recovery for you and download roms for you.
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He has recovery installed. All he has to do is select a rom, put it on the hd and start recovery to flash it. The process is well.documented. ROM manager is not the answer.
lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
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lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
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Awsome! Good for you.
Welcome aboard...you're life is changed forever.

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Ok so I'm wanting to root my inspire. What all do I need to do this? I dl'ed bubbys dl. How do I back my phone up? All my contacts and pics? Lost them once, not wanting to do that again. Titanium backup, do I need it? Paid or free version? Bare with me here, this is my first Android. Been an iPhone user since they came out but it seems its a lot easier to hack them then it is my inspire. I searched around but didn't really see any answers. Thanks in advance
Personally, I'd recommend attn1's Ace Hack Kit over Bubby's, since you'll need it if you ever want to go back to stock s-on, and it has some functionality that bubby's doesn't. I know for backing stuff up, Dropbox works really well. I use that for pics/vids AND contacts (menu>export>move to dropbox folder). I don't think that's the best way to do contacts, but I have never lost one. Titanium Backup is more for apps, but aside from saving you the effort of reconfiguring apps that have logins/preferences or whatever, there isn't much benefit over just reinstalling them from the market.
Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
And can I use a Mac to root with attn1 way?
#1: The videos are outdated, but "The Effen Manual" that attn1 includes is as easy to follow as it gets.
#2: I don't know, I don't use a Mac, but if you read his thread, I'm sure someone has answered that question.
Yeah I just googled attn1 and saw that he had said the vids are out dated and to read the manual. Also there is a link for osx so ill try that. If it don't work ill just run to best buy and pick up a netbook lol
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Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
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I don't know that it's necessarily true that you can't go back to S-On if you use bubbys tool to root.
I'm pretty sure there's been instances of people doing it, though it may be that you have to use the hack kit at that point.
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Once you use bubby's you can go back to stock. But yes you do have to use the hack kit to do so. Both give you the same s-off. Bubby's just pushes the commands to your phone in the background instead of you doing it yourself.
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I just used bubby's this morning, have never rooted before and it was rather easy and didn't take too long.
I had to do it twice, however, bc it wouldn't find the SID, stating something about my HTC drivers, so I used a market app to get the code. (Excuse my lack of terminology knowledge!!)
Although I should have, I didn't back up everything; only my images (which I just dropped to my desktop); after successful root everything was gone so I went through the settings "wizard" and made sure to log into HTC and within a few hours my contacts and messages were back.
I didn't want my apps back, so not sure how you back that up.
So I had all the stock apps plus ROM manager and superuser.
Now off to play around some more
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the only problem i have with rooting my phone is actually downloading the hack kit or bubby's one click method. i've turned off all the right things but still nothing. any advice?
thanks
I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
Plus I have a 2gb sdcard. Should I use this one for gold card? And do I need a mobile terminal app for root? If so which one?
vdubguy83 said:
I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
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If you set your contacts to be backed up on google, they will automatically reload for you.
Your pictures should now be on your SD card. If you are going to use that same SD card to make your gold card, then it will indeed need to be formatted and you'd lose whatever is on there, of course. All you have to do is plug the phone in to your computer, mount as disk drive, and make a folder on your computer, and copy the SD cards contents (or just the pictures, if you want) to your hard drive.
When your done, you can put it all back.
The only thing you will lose unavoidably is any app-specific data that you would need to have root to back up (game scores, etc.)
Once rooted even this data will be able to be accessed from that point forward... You won't even lose that, again... Its just the initial act of gaining root, that you're faced with a one-time loss of specific data.
Nearly everything else can be backed up "in the cloud" via Google or moved someplace else by you temporarily.
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Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
Bubbys one click on the phone at a point and when you get the error are you sure you have the sync drivers I selected the sync option on the usb connection manager.them switched back after .. I had to do it twice but good know
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vdubguy83 said:
Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
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As long as your contacts are Google based and/or you have your phone set to "backup your settings on Google," you shouldnt have to worry about contacts.
If you aren't sure log in to the full gmail in a browser and check to see if your contacts are visible there. If they are, you're good.
I haven't even thought about my contacts over the span of 4 Android phones, several roots, and a couple of custom Rom flashes... They just magically re-appear... Thanks to Google.
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Even though I am new to this forum, I rooted my Inspire 4g using Ace-Hack-Kit v9 without a clue to what it was actually doing in each step. Needless to say, it was very discomforting at a thought of bricking my phone. But since then, I have been through turning off the eng-s then going back to stock again to turn back the eng-s again using the v9. Now, since I know what each step of the v9 is doing, I am more comfortable using it then the newer automated v10 or the v11 (if it ain't broke, why change). And, I hate to repeat above post, but I have tried no less than 7 roms since the root. And thanks to the Google’s backup option, other than the saved games and such, all of my apps and the contact information were automatically reinstalled through wifi within an hour of connection (I did have to import my outlook contact into Gmail account first). So I never bother with a backup especially I really don't have anything on this phone to miss (didn't have the phone long enough).

Why root?

Being the xoom has sideload what other incentives are there to root? I have an atrix and thing of geting the xoom but w/o custom roms what does rooting do for you? And are there custom kernals if so what do those do thanx
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I think the better question is Why not root?
Rooting brings backups, recovery, ownership of the system, customization, and the ability to run modified hulu flash
You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol
KYT said:
You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol
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I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.
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I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.
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How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock
bwcorvus said:
I think the better question is Why not root?
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Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
Personally... overclocking, underclocking, screenshot, adfree, Hulu, system backup, Titanium backup.
ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
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Drm only hurts honest people...
Netflix currenty works on rooted devices. I can't see a logical reason why it would change either. But nothing the riaa does is really logical to me so who knows. But Netflix is streaming only so it is different than a 24hr rental service that you can actually download the file for offline viewing.
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PaulG1488 said:
How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock
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Well actually I wouldn't mind rooting the Xoom or the Nexus one I just don't fiddle around with ROMs or kernels. Merely rooting the device all by itself is pretty safe and gets you a lot of things I guess.
I just had my Nexus repaired by HTC a couple weeks ago and they wiped it... even though I don't have all these fancy back up measures in place it took me all of 10 minutes to put the phone back the way it was.
ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
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doesn't bother me cos australia can't get movies anyway... i rooted to get more control (for system apps and stuff) and for otg stuff
because you can. root then unroot if you have to.
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Yes there are custom kernels. These add SD card support and real micro USB otg hosting, including the ability to read thumb drives and hard drives. That to me was enough to root. I don't want to pollute my Xoom's disk space with 10gb of music and another 10 with movies. Google music beta solved the music and hot swaping USB solved everything else.

Impossible to root

I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
DVA4890 said:
I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
Yeah I'm having a hard time as well. I had already rooted an inspire before but I can't do my own
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I just have no idead what i am missing. i have watched buddys 1 click video and think i am doing it like he says but nope does not work. I might try the other way but it seems a little more in depth but we will see.
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
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Don't be a douche! Like this?
I used a new two gig Sandisk card and formatted it in my phone, then used the Gold Card Maker, and then used the Ace hack kit picking up on number two in the menu. This downgraded the rom and then you just forward thru setup and enable debugging again and run number three in the menu. This gives you root and s-off. Then you repeat enable debugging and go to the options menu and flash the stock radio. Once it reboots, you are ready to place your renamed rom on the root of the sd card and restart in bootloader and flash away. Don't forget to disconnect the usb cable after moving the rom to the sd card. After reboot you are home free. If you flash a custom rom, you may need to flash a new radio. The key is having a good gold card, turning off antivirus, and remembering to put the phone on charge only and enabling debugging before each step.
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Not to be a jerk but if you can't even figure out how to root the phone using one of the easiest tools around then maybe its best you just leave it alone all together.
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I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
malicenfz said:
I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
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You Did make a new goldcard for yours, right?
Yes, I made one for mine. Thanks for all the help guys it wasnt me being a noob it was the sd card not working, i tried a different one and it worked, thanks for all the help again guys.
Right on, sometimes the obvious questions just don't get asked.
Use hack kit tool v11 and read the effenmanual. You will root your phone.
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lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
malicenfz said:
lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
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Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
malicenfz said:
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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From what I've read in the past, AT&T detects tethering on rooted phones and will charge the specific account for the cost of the feature.
MartyLK said:
Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
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BTW the goldcard is not needed once you're done rooting. I haven't had a goldcard in my phone for months - it's the oiriginal 8GB that I keep it in my desk drawer should I ever need it again. Using a regular 32GB card now.
Rooting's not that hard but there is a small hurdle at first, but the rewards make it worthwhile. Some people prefer stock, some people like to tweak until the cows come home.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong for it to say model ID incorrect?
malicenfz said:
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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You can set up an apn that allows hotspot without a tethering plan.
Sent from the computer I carry in my pocket.
Tethering is usually free on rooted phones.
I'm pretty sure that AT&T doesn't do deep packet inspection on their traffic yet, so you should be able to easily get away with tethering as long as you don't have significantly higher data usage than usual.

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