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[Q] Q time!

Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me

There is a stock rooted Rom on here which you can use that will let you do what you want.
As for the roms, I know everyone has their preference but gtg's inspired saga gingerbread Rom is pretty much flawless. Even have it on my wife's inspire and she never complains about anything not working. I am sure others are very good as well.

wdkingery said:
Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
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All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.

Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
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With the exception of maybe App2sd.
But indeed, rooting is pretty much a must-do activity.
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Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
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sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig

wdkingery said:
sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
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Let me remedy that for ya.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015206
I think there's only a handful of us around here that use this ROM as their day to day ROM...and mostly its because it's so close to stock. Not many bells or whistles with this one.

oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?

Take a breath. You will catch on and yes it can be reversed if you need to send in for insurance though if the phone is split in half you may have trouble running the stock ruu and getting s-on.
Check the thread in dev section on data speed to see apn settings I believe they are listed in there.

i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?

wdkingery said:
oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
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I meant to tell ya that with the Ingersoll ROM, well with most of the ROM's in the dev section, wifi hotspot is enabled by default. I have used it and can verify that it works perfectly..just enable wifi hotspot in the settings. Oh and AT&T won't ever know either...though there is some debate about that.
Or like Newter555 says, do the research and you can add the APN's yourself.

wdkingery said:
i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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Follow the sticky guide at the top of this forum and you should breeze right through it.

i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help

wdkingery said:
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
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If you used the attn1 method he mentions that you have to flash a ROM to get sound back. Do you have rom manager installed? It can install recovery for you and download roms for you.
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He has recovery installed. All he has to do is select a rom, put it on the hd and start recovery to flash it. The process is well.documented. ROM manager is not the answer.

lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1

wdkingery said:
lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
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Awsome! Good for you.
Welcome aboard...you're life is changed forever.

Little insight please...

Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.

Ok everyone's going to tell you to root lol. Its really a personal preference. As for ocing i found that it really smooths out the overall performance of the phone. I personally enjoy the custom roms. I think that is what the general thought will be. Also having root access lets you change things like boot animation and other system things like that. It really just makes the phone fully customizable and also allows you to remove bloat ware.

vdubguy83 said:
Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.
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Of course it is. That's not to say the phone isn't great out of the box.....It is.
I didn't have the urge to root right away, because I was happy with the phone as it was... For awhile.
Then, I got sick of wading through ATT **** in my apps just to find the stuff I wanted. I wanted to back up my apps/data. I wanted amazon market...
So the most important thing for me was... Having CONTROL of my phone. I don't want to be at the mercy of ATT or HTC. It was more the principle of it.
Now, I've realized how much potential the device REALLY has, thanks to XDA devs, and being rooted gives you options.
It's up to you whether you want to do anything to the phone, but at least you have a choice in the matter if you're rooted.

My take is that if you can not leave well enough alone and want to squeeze out every possibility out of something then root. If you are going to just use the phone to make calls and messaging without concern for the little things (few extras like Netflixs etc), then don't bother. It it plenty capable being stock. To be honest (just my opinion) I really cant tell mine is rooted other than the few little custom features I added. It was smooth before and just as smooth now. I know one thing, my signal and data speeds have not change any....again just my opinion. Would I do it again, sure..its addictive. But then again I have a little OCD built inside of me

Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?

vdubguy83 said:
Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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The hack kit worked great on my mac. I actually had trouble on my boot camp so i swithed over to mac and finished it up. I did make the gold card with my pc. Tb is nice i have used it to remove bloat ware but not for backing up apps but it should do the trick. It will back it all up to your micro sd card though. So remember that when you go to make your gold card.

vdubguy83 said:
Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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Titanium backup is an excellent choice, especially for apps, and the removal/freezing of bloat. Many people choose to do it manually, but titanium backup is certainly a worthwhile purchase, imo.
Just be careful backing up and the restoring system data with titanium backup when changing roms, as a lot of problems can occur when restoring old system data to a new ROM.
I personally used bubby's "simple root," what you refer to as "one-click," (there's nothing truly "one-click" about rooting this phone ), but the hack kit is more functionally capable in terms of other non-rooting, but related tasks you may need to do someday. Not to mention the usability of the hack kit has improved considerably from the time when I first rooted and chose bubbys method.
With the hack kit, you need to make sure you flash a proper, fully functioning ROM after you've completed it, as the ROM it leaves you with is not intended to be the ROM you keep on the phone going forward, as I understand it.

Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?

vdubguy83 said:
Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?
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You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.

Carlrobling said:
You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.

vdubguy83 said:
No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.
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I've never tried it unrooted so I didn't know for sure.

Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Inarius03 said:
Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?

Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.

Carlrobling said:
Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.
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Sence is ok, I believe that's what I put on her phone (rcmix). What's the battery life on miui?

Carlrobling said:
You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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My understanding is that you can use the same gold card for multiple devices.
Perhaps I got my wires crossed when recalling the discussion about it... It might very well be the same *SD* card they were referring to, but I'm really inclined to think the same gold card is re-usable.
At the very least, now I'll have to go double-check.
Edit:
Here's the discussion I was referring to.

Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.

Gene Poole said:
Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.
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To the rescue, once again.

Thanks that's works. Maybe ill just pop hers out and use it.

vdubguy83 said:
Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?
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Should definitely give Virtuous a try. Much like CoreDroid, but little smoother even. Double-tap to zoom on websites is almost always instantaneous, whereas on other roms, it tends to lag.
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[Q] tethering and my htc and att?

Hello, can someone help me with something. I rooted my htc inspire a few months back. I did not change the room just left it as is. I am now trying to tethering my accer a500 to my htc inspire. I have tried the hot spot and also tried to hook cable to tablet from phone. when i try hot spot it turns on then turns off says i need to call att.
I am wondering do i have to flash phone with a differnet rom inorder to use those functions. or is their a way around the issue. Sorry for my lack of knowing lol. i am looking but I have not found a newbie guid covering this. I am asuming i do need to flash phone with custom rom but wanted to make sure.

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I guess should of added more info. I have rooted my phone a long while back. I did not flash a custom Rom to my phone. I am running the Rom the phone came with just rooted. Thanks again for any help someone will be able to give. I am still reading the fourms just guess not understanding. From what I am getting if I want hot spot to work or tethering to work I need to flash my phone with a custom Rom.

a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.

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Lol sorry but you really think I didn't do that like a month ago. Really I have read and re-read every topic even close to covering this topic. One topic saying yes you can the next saying it didn't work. Figured would find someone nice enough to say yes you can do it, and here is the topic area to look. Thank you for the link
Update, followed your link and it went no were. Google free tethering again and came up with the same thing. Someone saying they have a way to make it work. Then a bunch of posts after that with people saying it worked for a bit but not now. I'm just looking to see if it can be done, what has and has not worked and if I am right and I need a custom Rom.

I use EasyTether Pro, don't know if its safe, but I have been using it for almost 2 years on 2 different phones, and haven't been stuck with a higher bill yet
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I tether my HP Touchpad about an hour a day and have never got hit with the email from AT&T.
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thanks for the info
Was wondering do you guys use the cable, or set up a WiFi way. I don't plan on doing any downloading I use a program that looks up info for me on the net. Maybe some Facebook on the night ****. Once again thanks for the help with this very cool.

I dont have to DD an app to use hotspot because my dev built it in, which most roms do... but if you must stick with your stock rom... (thumbs down)
I used "open garden" wifi tether on a few different phones requiring that functionality. Its one of the best out there IMHO
P.S. If you like the stock feel and stability? of your stock rom, but are ready to open your phone up to a brand new life...
My suggestion for a jump off point(ROM) is 'COREDROID'! I dont rock it anymore, but it was imo the best, next very close runner up would be 'AndroidRevolution'...
Both of those have built in hotspot, plus a WAYYY faster UI than stock. Just My Opinion. good luck!

I have never tried to tether using stock rom, however almost all custom roms I have used have the ability to tether. Maybe try a custom rom, I like IceColdSandwich v 4.2. Good luck!

Thank u very much that was what I was really looking for. I will start looking for custom Rom that might work for me. I really need to learn how to back up the Rom I have so I can save it so I can flash it back to phone if need be. Thanks again all for all the help with this.

Start by looking for a recovery like "cwm recovery"... within the Inspire forums. Follow the directions exactly and read them ALL first, then reread them before flashing. Once youve achieved a recovery, you'll have opened yourself up to try ROMS i.e.Try coredroid for a few days then perform a backup of coredroid, then flash AR and run that for a few days.
As it seems in your OP, youre kinda used to a stock ROM and both of those are based on stock, with enhancements, and bloatware removed... MUCH FASTER and responsive.
So just start with one thing at a time - Recovery Time!!!
p.s. once youve installed your recovery, you should backup your current config before going to the next step - ROM!!! Practice good backup skills, and you'll limit your headaches considerably.

hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.

gage0727 said:
hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.
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as for backup between ROMs the two major ones are Titanium Backup and MyBackup

Darunion said:
a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.
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I used the EasyTether app a few times around last Christmas. Today I got the email from AT&T about tethering. So I guess now we can't use EasyTether?

I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.

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I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.
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no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol

Darunion said:
no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol
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*I* know that. But she apparently doesn't. She told me that ANY time ANYTHING is plugged into the phone now counts as tethering. Even if NO apps are being used. I know better than to believe that lol.
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Sucks for EasyTether and PDANet users

This seems a good place to ask. Of course, the ref with whom I spoke claims that their system is flawless, but is there anyone here who kows AT&Ts systems that can speak as to the reliability of their inspection system?
The reason I ask, I was informed that "the data connection from your phone was opened to another device several times within the past 2 months." I used it once, I'm afraid that something looks like tethering to their system, and I'll end up with a more expensive capped plan rather than my unlimited plan (truth is that I've only gone over 3 GB once of which I'm aware, I just don't like the concept of caps.... or more cost).

I finaly put a custom rom on my phone and was able to hotspot and tether my phone to my laptop. Only used it to load one page of xda just to see if it worked or not. I never got a text meassage or phone call or anything. I also use a bunch of bandwidth on a daily bases. e-mail, web games and such. I had to re-lock my phone sending it to htc to get repaired, when i get it back it will be re rooted and custom rom and tethered again. Will let you know what happens then. lol

They will constantly improve the system. the more people that find ways around it the more they will invest in closing the holes. they didnt used to have the ability to see but more and more is pointing to packet inspection and TTL's on them to see if theres another device behind the phone. it's not just an apn setting anymore. it's best either to not tether and breach contract or just pay the $15 a month and use it. Getting around it now, could change next week or a month or tomorrow. companies will do what they can to protect their services from being taken advantage of, and with the number of users that are stealing tethering data, that is a considerable cost. do i think its fair that i need to pay $15 to connect my pc to phone for just a picture here and there, no, but the consumer always wants everything for free.

[Q] Locked + S-ON + 1.45.0013 = stuck with stock crap?

Hello. Since this is my 1st post as "M4TGS" few words about me: I'm new MT4GS owner and new Android user, coming from WinMo world (been using PocketPCs since WinMo 2003 SE) so if something sounds noobish please forgive me, I haven't had Android phone before (or linux on my PCs).
Please correct me if/where I'm wrong.
My phone is:
LOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT-1.45.0013
with T-Mobile's ROM full of useless junk (I knew that would be the case when I bought it, I had WinMo phones from T-Mo before and they always were loaded with garbage, which I always flashed with modded ROMs, I don't know why I just assumed all Android phones are easy to root and flash shouldve done some reading here first...)
So, after reading a lot of threads here today it seems that:
1 - I cannot change my ROM (due to S-ON and bootloader version that hasn't been cracked yet), is that correct?
2 - I cannot get rid of T-Mobile's junk from my stock rom either, because even if I use the "temp-perma-SuperUser" method, delete the "bloatware" apk, the bootloader will do crc check on next boot and restore them all again, is that correct?
3 - Assuming I understood 1 and 2 correctly, is there a way to stop the "bloatware" from starting at boot? For WinMo 6.x we had few different utilities that basically work on the phone similar to batch scripts on Windows, and a lot of automation could be achieved with those; if there is something like this for Android could it be automated to stop some of the bloatware and remove their shortcuts from menu at every boot?
(i.e. T-Mobile's-specific apps such as "My Account" or "Visual Voicemail", specially the latter bugs me the most because my canadian provider Wind doesn't have Visual voicemail and I can't just tap on "voicemail" without being nagged to enable visual voicemail every time I tap on voicemail in notifications, its so annoying)
4 - How on earth do I make videocalls with this phone and ROM? (yes I searched forum for that and found "Qik" which is not what I'm asking about - I can install i.e. Skype and it'll serve me better than this Qik)
On my last WinMo phone I just tapped the "camera" icon in the phone app and it did videocall using data connection. I can't find anything like it (nor anything pointing to videocall or datacall) on this phone, what am I missing?
Any answers appreciated, TIA!

Well ill just start by saying 1 is wrong so you might want to do some more reading chief, i didnt get through the rest of your post yet just wanted to say your first thought is wrong
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Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?

MT4GS said:
Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Couldnt tell ya man, maybe it does it by gmail addresses? I never use my ffc, i have a iTurd for facetime thats it. My android is my pocket PC lol so mostly all text based things
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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!

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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
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I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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strapped365 said:
I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone

MT4GS said:
Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
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Yeah hmm maybe find a friend that has a phone with a ffc and video call and see if once you add all the info to the address book it gives you the option to video call. I would say google talk has video call but its trash. Then again you might have to use a 3rd party app like qik, thats what comes stock right
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I know exactly what you mean. I came over to this phone about 2 months ago from a Touch Pro 2. Boy the difference is figuring out how to get around the security on it.
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware.
You'll still be S-on, but will be able to flash any custom ROM you want, you just have to push the kernel separately through ADB instead of in a nice neat package.

Yes HappyKhicken it seems much more work to customize it than it was with any Windows Mobile. Not that it would discourage me its just an observation.
I'm still reading around, I have just found out about the "wire trick" to make radio S-OFF, so I want to learn as much as possible before I do anything other than hard reset.
Since you also had TP2 can you explain to me how do you make a videocall here?
I can't figure out how to make videocall at all
If you remember in WinMo (well, depending on ROM and dialer canvas version you had of course) when you tap phone there was the icon that looked like one of those old Logitech round webcams, when you tap this icon it switched to "videocall" to the person you were dialing, and if this person didn't have video capability it switch back to "voice". Can't find anything like this here.
Also probably stupid question: is it possible to restore unlocked/s-off phone back to being locked with s-on and full of junk stock rom? (in case I would need to send it back to htc for warranty repair or replacement, I don't have T-Mobile's option with Asurion insurance since I'm not their customer and I'm in Canada)
thx

HappyKhicken said:
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware..
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OK. I bit the bullet, went to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
run the HTC unlock, and now my bootloader says ***UNLOCKED***
(this was easy-peasy, just somehow no one mentioned in htc unlock tool thread - or I didn't notice it - that an account on htcdev is needed, but I made some quick fake email acct and registered there with it, hopefully I won't need it again? I just realized I didn't save any info for these accts lol)
So, next step would be to flash recovery - either CWM or "Stock 1.55" as there are these 2 to choose from at fifth step on HTC Unlock Tool.
What are the difference between these two?
If I flash one of them now, can I flash the other one later?
I'm not going to flash any new ROM yet, I need to get accustomed to Android first, but I would want to get rid of some bloatware and T-Mobile-specific apps that came with stock ROM since I'm not on T-Mobile. I know I need to flash CWM or Stock Recovery to gain root access, but I don't know which one should I choose / what are the major difference / advantages / disadvantages ?

MT4GS said:
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).

Fuzi0719 said:
Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Thanks. Yeah, I installed Skype from Google Play (I think Android Market was better name) and indeed it works great. I think sound quality is way better than Skype for Window Mobile, maybe it is better than 'regular voicecall' too, or so it seems.
But it came to me clear now, and I can't believe it, but despite most of Android 'smartphones' having front cameras, the OS itself doesn't have videocall capability built-in, am I correct?
It's kinda let down if true? because AFAIR even my old TyTN II (thats ancient 2007 model) and every other WinMo smartphone with front camera I had after that also had videocall built-in right there in the dialer

Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA

thenpaxtongoes said:
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
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OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?

MT4GS said:
OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
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To do many adb functions the device must be in debug mode.
The usb port itself isn't in debug mode, rather the whole device is.
In a very technical sense, a ROM is not 'polished' or 'finished' if it releases with usb debugging enabled - but I released mine that way because I use it so very often.
The setting is in:
Settings - Applications - Development
Sent from a digital distance.

Thank you Blue6IX for excellent explanation and thenpaxtongoes for the reminder
Now to root my unlocked phone:
volume down + power, to go into hboot, plug in usb, fire up HTC Unlocker Tool and install CWM or Stock recovery, but do I need to change on my phone's hboot menu screen down to Recovery first or do I keep it at default Fastboot to install one of the Recoveries?
Another question is which recovery to install? It seems CWM is the one to go with but what are the advantages/disadvantages of CWM vs Stock 1.55 recovery? TIA

RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?

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RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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What I find the easiest to do is just use something like My Backup Pro or Titanium Backup to "freeze" the things I don't want, usually those things from T-Mobile or HTC that startup in the background but I never use. Like the Group Messaging stuff (there are 3 processes associated with that, I freeze all 3), the SWM-C process, T-Mobile ID (a caller-ID type thing you have to pay for). Yes, they still take up storage space but that is negligible, by freezing them they no longer are taking up processing/battery time.

MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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Here is the original thread that was started a long time ago. I have still found it useful on occassion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222672&highlight=bloat

[Q] Rooted stock One MIni - Free hotspot?

Ok, I hate to post this, but I can't seem to find any posts on this. I have My HTC 1 mini rooted with cwm recovery flashed. I want to use my phone as a hotspot (without paying At&t) without flashing a custom rom. I like the stock rom and don't have any reason to flash cyanogen or anything else available. So,.... Can anyone help or direct me in the right place to get rid of the At&t big brother crap so I can use my phone as a hotspot for free?

I'm in the same boat as you, except I'm not even using the phone on AT&T, I'm thinking of updating to the international 4.3 release, however my wife doesn't want to lose all her settings and have to restore everything just to be able to use this feature.....
You can always use a 3rd party app such as tether (doesn't do wifi i dont think..) however i beleive the wifi ones are pay apps

teahering sux.
fuzzmania said:
I'm in the same boat as you, except I'm not even using the phone on AT&T, I'm thinking of updating to the international 4.3 release, however my wife doesn't want to lose all her settings and have to restore everything just to be able to use this feature.....
You can always use a 3rd party app such as tether (doesn't do wifi i dont think..) however i beleive the wifi ones are pay apps
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Tethering sux. Especially when using my tablet or when trying to have someone else connect. I used it all the time with my pos LG nitro HD. The phone is capable of doing it just not without [email protected] punk butts trying to charge for it. There has to be a software/app that be removed or something simple. I just don't want to remove something wrong and have to flash my back up. Pain the the u know. Pdanet was the best Coe tethering in my experience btw. I hate wires.

S-off
So I'm gathering that S-off has to be done in order to get free wifi with stock rom. in this tutorial http://htconeroot.com/htc-one-tutorials/how-to-get-s-off-on-htc-one/ I was able to get S-off. In the tutorial it states you have to disable fastboot. I tired it twice and it failed. I then enabled fastboot through the power menu at the bottom, and it worked like a charm. I had to enable fastboot to root my One mini as well. Both tutorials expressed that fastboot had to be disabled. Not in my case. So,... (at your own risk) if you have have problem with rooting and getting S-off, enable fastboot. Not I need to find out what all factory installed apps I can remove without bricking my phone. If anyone knows all or at least some of the apps/bloatware, please list.

skoobbarnes said:
Ok, I hate to post this, but I can't seem to find any posts on this. I have My HTC 1 mini rooted with cwm recovery flashed. I want to use my phone as a hotspot (without paying At&t) without flashing a custom rom. I like the stock rom and don't have any reason to flash cyanogen or anything else available. So,.... Can anyone help or direct me in the right place to get rid of the At&t big brother crap so I can use my phone as a hotspot for free?
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That's a great question. I believe that if you root the device (and possibly S-off) then you can use any hotspot app for free. I'm using this on the T-mobile network and cannot find a work-around without Root. I plan to root one day, but have just been too busy to sit down and go through all the steps.

Nope. Not with the AT&T version
PuffDaddy_d said:
That's a great question. I believe that if you root the device (and possibly S-off) then you can use any hotspot app for free. I'm using this on the T-mobile network and cannot find a work-around without Root. I plan to root one day, but have just been too busy to sit down and go through all the steps.
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I rooted, I got S-off and still no free wifi hotspot. Furthermore, Whenever It root uninstalled all those AT&T app, when I rebooted they would be back. I tried every root uninstaller on the play sotre with a four start rating or better. I wanted JB 4.3 and sense 5.5 so I got that S. I copied that resolution below. Now I have free wifi. Thanx though.
I used the script SuperWipe_M4_xpirt.zip to completely clean my Phone because after I copied to my pc then deleted all my titanium back up media and DCIM my sdcard only had 1.4gb in on it. On the device all those files still showed under my legacy and /0 folder and I found a third under storage in the device. This is something funky. So after the SuperWipre Script from thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2423576 I then flashed 4.3 sense 5.5 from thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2575766 and now I have 11 gb on my phone. I will pay more attention to my storage when installing and changing things so I can see what, where, and/or how that happened. I have never encountered something like this before, nevertheless, i have never settle for a phone without external storage either. I wont ever do that again. But for a free phone plus a $56 credit to my account, I can't complain too much. Just a little. The One Mini is way better than the crappy lame POS LG Nitro HD .