Ok so I'm wanting to root my inspire. What all do I need to do this? I dl'ed bubbys dl. How do I back my phone up? All my contacts and pics? Lost them once, not wanting to do that again. Titanium backup, do I need it? Paid or free version? Bare with me here, this is my first Android. Been an iPhone user since they came out but it seems its a lot easier to hack them then it is my inspire. I searched around but didn't really see any answers. Thanks in advance
Personally, I'd recommend attn1's Ace Hack Kit over Bubby's, since you'll need it if you ever want to go back to stock s-on, and it has some functionality that bubby's doesn't. I know for backing stuff up, Dropbox works really well. I use that for pics/vids AND contacts (menu>export>move to dropbox folder). I don't think that's the best way to do contacts, but I have never lost one. Titanium Backup is more for apps, but aside from saving you the effort of reconfiguring apps that have logins/preferences or whatever, there isn't much benefit over just reinstalling them from the market.
Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
And can I use a Mac to root with attn1 way?
#1: The videos are outdated, but "The Effen Manual" that attn1 includes is as easy to follow as it gets.
#2: I don't know, I don't use a Mac, but if you read his thread, I'm sure someone has answered that question.
Yeah I just googled attn1 and saw that he had said the vids are out dated and to read the manual. Also there is a link for osx so ill try that. If it don't work ill just run to best buy and pick up a netbook lol
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Ok so with his I cannot go back to stock if I would need too. Didn't know that, thanks. Ill have to find that download then and maybe try that out. Is it as easy as his method? I know there is a YouTube video I watched of his way and seems fairly easy.
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I don't know that it's necessarily true that you can't go back to S-On if you use bubbys tool to root.
I'm pretty sure there's been instances of people doing it, though it may be that you have to use the hack kit at that point.
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Once you use bubby's you can go back to stock. But yes you do have to use the hack kit to do so. Both give you the same s-off. Bubby's just pushes the commands to your phone in the background instead of you doing it yourself.
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I just used bubby's this morning, have never rooted before and it was rather easy and didn't take too long.
I had to do it twice, however, bc it wouldn't find the SID, stating something about my HTC drivers, so I used a market app to get the code. (Excuse my lack of terminology knowledge!!)
Although I should have, I didn't back up everything; only my images (which I just dropped to my desktop); after successful root everything was gone so I went through the settings "wizard" and made sure to log into HTC and within a few hours my contacts and messages were back.
I didn't want my apps back, so not sure how you back that up.
So I had all the stock apps plus ROM manager and superuser.
Now off to play around some more
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the only problem i have with rooting my phone is actually downloading the hack kit or bubby's one click method. i've turned off all the right things but still nothing. any advice?
thanks
I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
Plus I have a 2gb sdcard. Should I use this one for gold card? And do I need a mobile terminal app for root? If so which one?
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I still didn't root, sorta backed out last night haha. Wouldn't know why I would need to go back to stock once rooted but I guess all is possible. I don't really care about losing my apps, ill just redownload then, its just my pictures and contacts I'm worried about losing. I think I'm going to use bubbys root tonight and see what happens. Thanks for the info. Also there are a bunch of apps I don't use on the phone is there a way to freeze them after root besides getting titanium backup pro? Or does that seem like the best way?
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If you set your contacts to be backed up on google, they will automatically reload for you.
Your pictures should now be on your SD card. If you are going to use that same SD card to make your gold card, then it will indeed need to be formatted and you'd lose whatever is on there, of course. All you have to do is plug the phone in to your computer, mount as disk drive, and make a folder on your computer, and copy the SD cards contents (or just the pictures, if you want) to your hard drive.
When your done, you can put it all back.
The only thing you will lose unavoidably is any app-specific data that you would need to have root to back up (game scores, etc.)
Once rooted even this data will be able to be accessed from that point forward... You won't even lose that, again... Its just the initial act of gaining root, that you're faced with a one-time loss of specific data.
Nearly everything else can be backed up "in the cloud" via Google or moved someplace else by you temporarily.
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Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
Bubbys one click on the phone at a point and when you get the error are you sure you have the sync drivers I selected the sync option on the usb connection manager.them switched back after .. I had to do it twice but good know
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Ok thanks for the info. Ill make sure to back my pics and contacts up some way before I root.
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As long as your contacts are Google based and/or you have your phone set to "backup your settings on Google," you shouldnt have to worry about contacts.
If you aren't sure log in to the full gmail in a browser and check to see if your contacts are visible there. If they are, you're good.
I haven't even thought about my contacts over the span of 4 Android phones, several roots, and a couple of custom Rom flashes... They just magically re-appear... Thanks to Google.
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Even though I am new to this forum, I rooted my Inspire 4g using Ace-Hack-Kit v9 without a clue to what it was actually doing in each step. Needless to say, it was very discomforting at a thought of bricking my phone. But since then, I have been through turning off the eng-s then going back to stock again to turn back the eng-s again using the v9. Now, since I know what each step of the v9 is doing, I am more comfortable using it then the newer automated v10 or the v11 (if it ain't broke, why change). And, I hate to repeat above post, but I have tried no less than 7 roms since the root. And thanks to the Google’s backup option, other than the saved games and such, all of my apps and the contact information were automatically reinstalled through wifi within an hour of connection (I did have to import my outlook contact into Gmail account first). So I never bother with a backup especially I really don't have anything on this phone to miss (didn't have the phone long enough).
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I rooted my captivate, backed up everything (I thought) I was supposed to, and then downloaded and flashed over to Cognition. It all worked pretty flawlessly, I customized everything the way i wanted on my home screens and restored all my apps... and then I realized all my phone numbers were gone.
I've tried every strategy I can find for recovering them except flashing back to my backup, which I remember reading might work. I'm not sure that will work either, and I don't want to go through the hassle of undoing all my work if it's unlikely to save all my contact info anyhow.
So I guess I'm hoping for some kind of miracle here... is there any way to recover these that I may not have tried? I thought titanium backup would preserve them, or at the very least I thought syncing my google account would but neither seems to have worked - i've scoured the backup files I made but can't see which of them might contain that information, if any.
Sorry for the lengthy post - just want to cover all my bases to save time for responders. I apologize for asking an all-too-often asked question also, but nothing I've searched and tried seems to work for me.
Any help out there? Thanks.
If you still have the stock contacts app and you synced with AT&T before, try and resync it. As a general rule, I always export my contacts to my sd before doing anything.
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If you still have the stock contacts app and you synced with AT&T before, try and resync it. As a general rule, I always export my contacts to my sd before doing anything.
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hey thanks for the response. i did not sync with AT&T, only google. But that didn't actually work I found out too late.
If I have to re-build my entire contact list then so be it, but if there's anyway you think flashing back to my old setup might restore them (or i could extract that data and import it into my current setup) - I'd much rather do that.
I just don't wanna flash if it's not likely to work.
What app did you back up your system with?
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Always, always, always, copy all your contacts to your SIM before you do anything like this to your phone. You might lose the formatting, but you will always have them.
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What app did you back up your system with?
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Well, I used clockwork recovery after rooting. then i installed titanium backup and thought i made a backup of everything on my phone - but when i restored them after flashing cognition, the contacts didn't come along.
I am not sure if that's where my mistake was or not. I thought I had them backed up with my google account if nothing else, but that didn't take either. (I just got the phone about a week ago, hadn't messed around with much on it before i started playing right away)
But regardless, do you think there's anyway I might be able to recover them?
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But regardless, do you think there's anyway I might be able to recover them?
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there is a slim chance that if you flash back to stock 2.1 and restore your titanium backup that your contacts would be there, my theory is that the differences in 2.1 contacts storage and 2.2 contacts are in a place that tb wont restore them to there correct places. someone please correct me if im wrong...
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Always, always, always, copy all your contacts to your SIM before you do anything like this to your phone. You might lose the formatting, but you will always have them.
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Thanks, I learned my lesson now. I thought I was following the procedures given all the reading I had done before starting, but I guess I overlooked this part or it wasn't specifically harped on enough. If only I had known I could be so happy right now with this phone.
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there is a slim chance that if you flash back to stock 2.1 and restore your titanium backup that your contacts would be there, my theory is that the differences in 2.1 contacts storage and 2.2 contacts are in a place that tb wont restore them to there correct places. someone please correct me if im wrong...
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If it makes a difference in your thought process, I actually installed the eclair version of cognition. The top selection on the right hand side of the ponack.net page
Although maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.... as I said, I just got my first android phone a week ago, I've done a lot of reading the last week and could very easily be confused here on something simple.
if you flashed the eclair version then that voids my theory.
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if you flashed the eclair version then that voids my theory.
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Well at least that takes care of one thing. Still not sure if I should try flashing back.
I guess I don't need most of those people's numbers any longer....
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Well at least that takes care of one thing. Still not sure if I should try flashing back.
I guess I don't need most of those people's numbers any longer....
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yea this is the perfect time to clean out some of those old contacts lol
I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
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I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
Yeah I'm having a hard time as well. I had already rooted an inspire before but I can't do my own
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I just have no idead what i am missing. i have watched buddys 1 click video and think i am doing it like he says but nope does not work. I might try the other way but it seems a little more in depth but we will see.
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
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Don't be a douche! Like this?
I used a new two gig Sandisk card and formatted it in my phone, then used the Gold Card Maker, and then used the Ace hack kit picking up on number two in the menu. This downgraded the rom and then you just forward thru setup and enable debugging again and run number three in the menu. This gives you root and s-off. Then you repeat enable debugging and go to the options menu and flash the stock radio. Once it reboots, you are ready to place your renamed rom on the root of the sd card and restart in bootloader and flash away. Don't forget to disconnect the usb cable after moving the rom to the sd card. After reboot you are home free. If you flash a custom rom, you may need to flash a new radio. The key is having a good gold card, turning off antivirus, and remembering to put the phone on charge only and enabling debugging before each step.
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Not to be a jerk but if you can't even figure out how to root the phone using one of the easiest tools around then maybe its best you just leave it alone all together.
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I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
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I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
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You Did make a new goldcard for yours, right?
Yes, I made one for mine. Thanks for all the help guys it wasnt me being a noob it was the sd card not working, i tried a different one and it worked, thanks for all the help again guys.
Right on, sometimes the obvious questions just don't get asked.
Use hack kit tool v11 and read the effenmanual. You will root your phone.
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lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
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lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
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Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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From what I've read in the past, AT&T detects tethering on rooted phones and will charge the specific account for the cost of the feature.
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Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
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BTW the goldcard is not needed once you're done rooting. I haven't had a goldcard in my phone for months - it's the oiriginal 8GB that I keep it in my desk drawer should I ever need it again. Using a regular 32GB card now.
Rooting's not that hard but there is a small hurdle at first, but the rewards make it worthwhile. Some people prefer stock, some people like to tweak until the cows come home.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong for it to say model ID incorrect?
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Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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You can set up an apn that allows hotspot without a tethering plan.
Sent from the computer I carry in my pocket.
Tethering is usually free on rooted phones.
I'm pretty sure that AT&T doesn't do deep packet inspection on their traffic yet, so you should be able to easily get away with tethering as long as you don't have significantly higher data usage than usual.
Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.
Ok everyone's going to tell you to root lol. Its really a personal preference. As for ocing i found that it really smooths out the overall performance of the phone. I personally enjoy the custom roms. I think that is what the general thought will be. Also having root access lets you change things like boot animation and other system things like that. It really just makes the phone fully customizable and also allows you to remove bloat ware.
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Ok, so I see there is a lot of root threads here already but I haven't really seen my answer. Is it really worth it? I know I can flash different roms (chics phone is rooted so I flashed hers) but I mean really? My battery life isn't to bad and my phone seems decent in speed (is it that much faster oc'd?) Is there a huge advantage stock vs rooted? Like the iPhone, you jb to have anything really, Android blows that out of the water right out the box and I'm or was an iPhone user since it first came out. Just don't know if I'm over looking something or not. Well that's my rant for the night haha.
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Of course it is. That's not to say the phone isn't great out of the box.....It is.
I didn't have the urge to root right away, because I was happy with the phone as it was... For awhile.
Then, I got sick of wading through ATT **** in my apps just to find the stuff I wanted. I wanted to back up my apps/data. I wanted amazon market...
So the most important thing for me was... Having CONTROL of my phone. I don't want to be at the mercy of ATT or HTC. It was more the principle of it.
Now, I've realized how much potential the device REALLY has, thanks to XDA devs, and being rooted gives you options.
It's up to you whether you want to do anything to the phone, but at least you have a choice in the matter if you're rooted.
My take is that if you can not leave well enough alone and want to squeeze out every possibility out of something then root. If you are going to just use the phone to make calls and messaging without concern for the little things (few extras like Netflixs etc), then don't bother. It it plenty capable being stock. To be honest (just my opinion) I really cant tell mine is rooted other than the few little custom features I added. It was smooth before and just as smooth now. I know one thing, my signal and data speeds have not change any....again just my opinion. Would I do it again, sure..its addictive. But then again I have a little OCD built inside of me
Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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The hack kit worked great on my mac. I actually had trouble on my boot camp so i swithed over to mac and finished it up. I did make the gold card with my pc. Tb is nice i have used it to remove bloat ware but not for backing up apps but it should do the trick. It will back it all up to your micro sd card though. So remember that when you go to make your gold card.
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Thanks guys. What did you guys use to back your stuff up? I just bought titanium backup pro.... guess I shoulda read the whole thing before paying 6.88 lol. Also which method is better? The one click or hack kit? Any known issues with either? And I use a Mac but also have access to a PC. I have the hack kit on my mac but it recommends a PC to make a gold card. Does it not work well with a Mac or what?
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Titanium backup is an excellent choice, especially for apps, and the removal/freezing of bloat. Many people choose to do it manually, but titanium backup is certainly a worthwhile purchase, imo.
Just be careful backing up and the restoring system data with titanium backup when changing roms, as a lot of problems can occur when restoring old system data to a new ROM.
I personally used bubby's "simple root," what you refer to as "one-click," (there's nothing truly "one-click" about rooting this phone ), but the hack kit is more functionally capable in terms of other non-rooting, but related tasks you may need to do someday. Not to mention the usability of the hack kit has improved considerably from the time when I first rooted and chose bubbys method.
With the hack kit, you need to make sure you flash a proper, fully functioning ROM after you've completed it, as the ROM it leaves you with is not intended to be the ROM you keep on the phone going forward, as I understand it.
Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?
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Yeah I meant the simple root. As for the TB I just downloaded, I can only use that after I root from what I gather. The hack kit won't open on the PC, it opens on my Mac though. Simple root opens on the PC fine so maybe ill just use that one. Haven't decided yet though. I'd like to just use one computer and not jump back and for. Oh another thing, since my chics phone is rooted could I just use that SD card to do mine as well or is it a good idea just to use your own SD card?
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You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.
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No, it says I'm not rooted so it won't work at all. Oh well just another reason to root.
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I've never tried it unrooted so I didn't know for sure.
Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Faster with potentially better battery life. But more importantly, you have absolute control over your phone. That is what brought me to Android in the first place. Root it.
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Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?
Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.
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Rcmix is a good one and its sense 3.0. That's if you like the sense roms. I'm stuck on miui right now i love it.
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Sence is ok, I believe that's what I put on her phone (rcmix). What's the battery life on miui?
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You can use tb to back up just not remove bloat ware without root if I remember correctly. The sd card you can use but you still have to make your own gold card its device specific.
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My understanding is that you can use the same gold card for multiple devices.
Perhaps I got my wires crossed when recalling the discussion about it... It might very well be the same *SD* card they were referring to, but I'm really inclined to think the same gold card is re-usable.
At the very least, now I'll have to go double-check.
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Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.
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Once a gold-card, always a gold card--for any device that needs it.
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To the rescue, once again.
Thanks that's works. Maybe ill just pop hers out and use it.
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Yeah, that's what brought me over too. I'm going to root it tonight if all goes well. Thinking of trying coredroid or leedroid. Or is there a better one I'm missing?
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Should definitely give Virtuous a try. Much like CoreDroid, but little smoother even. Double-tap to zoom on websites is almost always instantaneous, whereas on other roms, it tends to lag.
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Rooted, CM 7.1.0, T-Mobile
Not sure if these are CM issues or HTC's crappy hardware issues, but...
1. When I try to turn on the screen using either the top button or bottom trackpad button, the screen will flash on for a second and then go off again. It will do this two or three times until the screen stays on at the lock screen. Didn't do this before CM, but also didn't start until months after I modded to CM.
2. When using the on screen keyboard(in vertical mode) sometimes it's like the touchscreen is responding very slowly to my taps and CERTAIN KEYS will not work at all. So I'll be typing and the keyboard will be kinda sluggish and suddenly I'll notice that none of the a's I'm hitting are registering. I'll hit the area of the screen over the "a" key and the surrounding keys will register but not "a". I will usually have to turn the screen off and then back on before it starts working again. I think it did this the first time before I modded, but can't quite remember.
Anyone else having these problems?
The first problem has happened before on some roms.
I don't recommend using CM 7, its old, outdated and hasn't been fully patched.
I had that same touch keyboard issue with my HTC EVO shift and my HTC Inspire....an of course all my phones were on different ROMS
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The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
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The first issue... are you oc? If so how much? Really no need to oc this phone. Also, it could be a wake issue, if you are underclocked to much, there is a minimum amount that sometimes has to be higher on some phones than others.
It seems to me these could be kernel issues.
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Unless CM over or under clocks by default, then no changes in cpu.
You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
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You should run the HTC stock software for a few days or a week to see if the problems you have are persistant across ROMs, or something specific to your current software package.
Just a thought.
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Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
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Yeah I've thought about doing that, but I also use my phone for business and switching between roms is kinda disruptive, so I haven't done that yet. Hoping for more feedback from others.
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Yea, that is something that impacts us all. I could get a lot more dev done if I didn't have to have my plan phone set and ready a specific way each shift to be able to do my job the way i'm expected to.
Best bet would be to wait until you had a day or two off, maybe a weekend or something and when you finish with your obligations before that free time starts:
-try to have near to a full battery or a full one waiting.
Installing a new ROM always works better with a full battery on install, so if you can already be at that step you can start right away instead of waiting for it.
-Make a clockworkmod backup of your device as it sits, and copy that backup to a computer somewhere.
-Get all the ROM files you need to re-install it in a folder with that clockworkmod backup you just made. When you go to put the phone back together to go back to work, if the backup doesn't work for some reason you can at least install fresh and go from there.
-On that note, backup all your apps too. If you do end up having to re-install your ROM you are running right now, being able to install all the apps right away again off the sdcard saves a lot of time and hassle.
Make sure to get those apps backed up to a computer too.
-backup all your contacts. Export everything you can to the sdcard, and then copy that to the computer too.
-Make sure you have all the passwords and account names you need for anything you have installed. (Gmail(s) - Games - accounts tied to apps or services you use)
If you do have to reinstall everything, and you use internet services like dropbox or an internet faxing service you don't want to have to track down those logins if you don't type them often. Make sure you check all your apps and write them down ahead of time.
-Lastly, since you are on CM7, use titanium backup to backup everything and copy that also to the folder on the computer. The word backup in the computer industry is synonymous with redundant, and if it's not you're doing it wrong.
The reason why I said to copy all these backups off the phone and onto a computer is because if something catastrophically bad happens to the phone then what?
By catastrophically bad I mean you format the sdcard by mistake on a factory reset while you're playing with different ROMs - what then?
If you do need the device for work, and you are serious about trying to test the errors against being a phone-specific hardware issue or a software issue with the ROM you are using, then jogging your process by putting this all out there might help you get started.
When you get that downtime, you'll know ahead of time so you can prepare, and then when it hits you have an immediate plan of action to put into place to maximise the time you get for testing.
Also, have the ROM you want to put on it ready to go, and if possible alternates to that - so research the 3 software versions available from HTC for the device.
Also become familiar with this process:
Restore to stock
...maybe download all 3 software versions before your free time hits so you have them already. If everything goes sideways you can always use one of them to restore the device.
If you are S-OFF you have nothing to worry about for doing any of the software updates unless you manually re-lock the device, so just don't do that and you'll be fine.
If you are S-ON speak up and i'll lay out your possible headaches along the way and what we know about them if someone else doesn't first.
If you have prepped before the free time hits:
1 - passwords/account info written down and at the computer you'll be using...
2 - all software packages (restore files, roms, anything else...) that you need downloaded and on the computer you'll be using...
3 - all the apps you use backed up and on the computer you'll be using...
4 - any media like pictures and music or anything else backed up to the computer you'll be using...
5 - a full battery or close to ...
...you are still looking at almost an hours worth of backup time to do the clockworkmod backup, titanium backup, transfer them to the computer, and then you might run a little over that time when you test the clockworkmod backup.
( you always test the backup - the only thing worse then not having a backup is having a corrupt one you thought was good )
...which cuts into your time testing the other ROM enough as it is, but if you aren't ready to do it like this it will take significantly longer.
Since you'll know when the time hits getting a majority of the media, pictures and user generated stuff plus most (if not all) of the apps you use backup up the day before helps cut down on a lot, but that hour is still lost to making a way of putting it back together again.
You also need to leave yourself a solid 4 hours to put the machine back to the way it is before you started on the other side. Again, on install, you want to have a full battery so plan for that too.
4 hours gives you enough time to get everything slapped together from a fresh CM7 install and manually doing all your apps and setting up the phone for work, if the CWM backup fails for some reason and you have to start over.
I just want to see everyone have their phones running right, and if it's a hardware issue then you should get it repaired, if it's a software issue then you should seek a solution - but the quickest way to a result, and the one for your issue, is to directly test it yourself.
Since you sounded like you came to that conclusion too, your only issue now is squeezing it into a time slot you can get so don't hesitate if you have questions on the processes involved.
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If you have multiple MicroSD cards you could use for this, then you can save a lot more time.
You could take the one you have in there now out, and put it to the side so that when you installed your work setup again the memory card and all it's stuff is right there.
Then you could take different memory cards and have them pre-made to what you need, so as soon as you are done backups you power off and swap memory cards.
First one you swap in has the PG59IMG.zip restore file (and nothing else) renamed that way and ready to go, so when you power back on to hboot that installs itself and you save the time spent copying that over before you can install it.
When that finishes, you are back to stock and ready to go, and you didn't change any of the info on your work sdcard.
Something to think about, if work stuff is that important that's what i'd do (and what I do myself, so thought to add it)
Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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I don't even know what radio I'm on that's a sad thing...but yeah once you update your radio, no Rom will overwrite the radio unless it somehow has one in it you know...
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AviatorJud said:
Wow Blue, thank you for taking the time to respond. I think I will have some time this weekend to give this a shot. I am S-OFF. And you're right, as long as you plan everything ahead and allow for the time to get set back up, it's not too bad. I'm just trying to decide what rom to try switch to. I really hate sense, so I don't really wanna go back to stock. Wish there was a good stable vanilla to use. Any thoughts?
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My pleasure, it's what makes XDA work - people taking time to share what they've learned so others can benefit from or add to the knowledge.
If you are trying to bug-check, honestly, the stock official ROM is a good one to use. It's not something you are so much doing to enjoy the phone, as much as to check on a specific aspect of it.
Further, you are already halfway home on putting the phone back to factory settings if it is a hardware issue, so then you just have to S-ON it and send it in for repair - though you probably won't get it back with S-OFF ability, you will at least be able to unlock it.
Just from directly developing things for the device, and having to go through these testing procedures time and again, I try to set the process up to keep moving, so by going to bone stock if it is broken you already have taken steps to make it what it has to be to send it in, the next looming goal if you aren't going to restore to your work setup.
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Oh and if I want to update to the newest radio, which is listed in your "return to stock" thread and then perhaps use another custom rom, like bulletproof, will that radio stick? Do roms not ever update the radio? I just noticed that I am on the original one for the doubleshot, which came out last june.
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This was just answered above me, but you can always go back to previous radio installs if you are S-OFF...but only if S-OFF.
I've run Bulletproof on the new radio and it runs fine, so doesn't matter either way on that one - other ROMs you'll have to ask the author.
ROMs can update the radio, or only work on specific ones, but for our device I don't think it's been an issue yet, pretty sure everything works with everything on that part.
I'm pretty sure i already know the answer on this, but just checking. Is there any way to delete bloatware via adb or something without rooting? OR (before the flame party starts) ... is there any way to root without doing a factory reset?
NOW: the reason why i ask is i just found out one of my mom's friends also has a shift. She's been getting quota errors on her phone and even though she's uninstalled some apps, a lot is being ate by stock installed bloatware that she doesn't use. I'd like to be able to get some of that cleared out for her, but she's not super tech savvy and I'd rather not inconvenience her with having to reinstall everything and set it all back up.
If not, I'll give her the option of a full root and run an a2sd rom on it for her too. Just trying to see what all of my options are. I apologize in advance if this has already been covered. I haven't had much time to search. Internet's off at home and my signal's been too spotty to use the xda app. Only have time to check stuff at work and I couldn't find exactly what I needed.
Without root I doubt you could do enough for it to even matter.
Only thing you can do without root is install a factory ruu image, which will wipe everything, but will also be an actual fresh install rather than just formatting user data with a factory reset.
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Can't she just use the native 2.2+ apps 2 sd? Like go into the app info and click move to sd. Otherwise i like to use zdBox which will kinda do a batch move. Also it will clear cache and a lot of other things. There's also a program called link2sd which will do the ext partition move and native apps2sd.
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Can't she just use the native 2.2+ apps 2 sd? Like go into the app info and click move to sd. Otherwise i like to use zdBox which will kinda do a batch move. Also it will clear cache and a lot of other things. There's also a program called link2sd which will do the ext partition move and native apps2sd.
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She probably could but like I said, she's not really tech savvy. I could set it up for her, but it wouldn't put her mind at ease. I'm pretty sure she needs the visual of looking in her app drawer and NOT seeing the apps before she can fully stop stressing about her phone. But we'll see. I have the next couple days off so I'll talk to her. If she doesn't have too much data to move I'll just root and help her set up either newSENSE or Supreme and call it a day. If that proves to be too big of a hassle I'll offer her the native apps2sd option and try to convince her that her phone won't blow up on her. Or it might not matter cuz she might be upgrading ... in which case I'll just get the phone off of her as a backup and root it for me lol.
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Without root I doubt you could do enough for it to even matter.
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I guess my main inquiry was is there a way to "root" enough to remove bloatware. I think before they found the 2.3.3 exploit though the best that could be done was "freezing" while in temp root but i think all the apps came back after reboot. Dunno...
Root it, and do it right. She and you will be much happier in the long run. My friends girl was the same if not worse about her EVO4G. She thought that Sprint would call and accuse her of rooting the device . I let her think what she wanted to. Rooted and Mikafied his EVO. After two days he called me and said she changed her mind after using his phone. The biggest thing is letting a person see what the differences are, and what the advantages will be to Rooting.
Convincing her of the benefits of rooting is no biggie ... the hassle i was trying to avoid was her having to completely set up everything on her phone again. Not the biggest inconvenience, but she might be debating getting another phone too. I'm not overly pressed about it. I won't see her again until next weekend, and at that time i'll let her make her own decision. Worst case scenario, she decides to opt for something like the Galaxy S3 and i talk her into giving me her shift as a backup. Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I was just wondering if there was a less obtrusive way to delete her bloatware than a full wipe/RUU.
Well either way, hope it works out for the best .