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the Dual Core Phone is coming in less than 1 month. if anything it sounds like LG wants to kill the nexus S before it gets a chance.
Today you have the option to buy Nexus S. or Pre order the Dual Core phone with Tegra 2 GPU for max gaming perforamnce along with better camera and an SD card option and 1080p video recording capability
downside its 2.2 and unless it gets rooted early, 2.3 will take a while to be out.
seriously . i didnt know that they would release it so soon.
I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
No thanks. I'll be sticking with the nexus until the end of next year when a Dual-Core N3 is announced.
I like my updates a lot, tyvm
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I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
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normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
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Yeah, I agree the phone SEEMS like it's going to be absolutely amazing, and it very well may be. But I don't want to wait for updates and/or devs to get the latest and greatest software.
And as someone else said, I'll wait for the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called.
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Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
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Yes its much more powerful. its from Nvidia after all
and i agree i hate the LG branding too.
No question the Tegra 2 device is the lastest and greatest based on dual chip solely. Its a monument release despite launching with 2.2. I'm not a gamer so that aspect doesn't interest me at all. I always keep two devices (1)cdma (2)gsm, for geek reasons. I really want to get both devices in my hand, then make a decision. We all know it will be the Tegra 2 device.
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Nah i hoped for 30-40% more power ... there is no need to take this over future Orion based phones.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...he-Test-Deemed-Faster-Than-Hummingbird-4.png/
BTW. I lost hopes in NV after huge fail in dedicated PS3 GPU.
I'm not a massive fan of LG phones, even if the specs are good. Bearing in mind I've still not decided on an NS yet. I think it's a good step though, as someone has to push the dual core tech forward. When Samsung (which I have nothing against) or HTC start pushing the tech in their own form, whether it's Tegra, Orion or something from Qualcomm, I'll be more excited
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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Just flassshhh ... xD They need to update TouchWizz and any other software so wait in patience
Somebody know what is top LG android phone right now available in market ?
Only time will tell whether the Opt 2X is worth it. Which is why I say this is a brink in mobile technology -- the standard is changing. Nexus S represents generally the best of an era that is ending (era of single core, 3G, etc). It might be worth waiting to some. No one can tell (meaning, not people who praise dual-core, or people who try to say dual-core is useless/wouldn't get first dual-core, etc.) for now.
As for the direct/clean Google updates, there are ways to work around that with other phones (flashing ROMs, etc.). If the Opt 2X succeeds, you can be sure the dev. community will be supporting the device with those sorts of specs.
But again, time will tell. I want to get (and like) the Nexus S as much as the next guy, but I'm waiting a bit. If the rumors are true, and that dual-cores will come early 2011, the wait is not far off. Also, the slew of issues the Nexus S seems to be having (a quick glance at the threads here will show tons of concerns) is serving as a huge deterrent. I actually like Samsung products, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that Google/Sammy rushed the Nexus S out.
Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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people said the same thing when Nexus 1 was out then Galaxy S was released. they all run the same things. it just it runs better on Galaxy S.
and i assume the same thing will happen for future games for example.
its not just the aps. the thing has HDMI out to play video and games on ur TV. it plays videos at 1080P. it RECORD videos at 1080 and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
I'm just waiting for a phone that has a 4.3" screen that is smaller than the size of the Nexus S. Phones have way too much useless glass/plastic around the screen that serve no purpose. Performance I could care less, they all work fine for me. Hell, I thought the HTC Aria was pretty snappy when I had it.
Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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plus it also had the super amoled screen. and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
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Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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+1
if have also the SAmoled, I'll buy it without hesitation when it comes out, if not samsung has a sgs2 with t2 etc. soon...
if 2x Optimus had a screen of 4.3 or 4.5 samold, and would be perfect grrr
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Forgive me for being offtopic for a moment, but I must ask, why are you here on these forums? Most of the posts I see from you are "LOL NEXUS S SUX!!!1!!11!" so I have to ask. Are you trying to convince people that they made a bad purchase and whatever phone you're currently using is better? Not trying to start a flamewar, merely curious about your intentions.
As far as your question regarding LG Optimus 2X, my answer is no. It runs what looks like a TouchWiz derivative and I detest TouchWiz. Its not that I hate all layovers, it's that I hate ugly/cartoony layovers. I don't mind SenseUI at all and actually wish that Google would incorporate some of their widgets into stock Android. And, personally, I don't understand the complaint about the lack of a microsd card on the Nexus S. Is 16gbs not enough? It is for me. Then again, I'm a guy who's had the same computer for the last two years and just barely made it halfway through the 500gb hard drive.
Dual-core processors are definitely the future, but nothing out there right now is optimized to take advantage of it and it will be some time before they do. Would today's apps run better? Probably. Would they run better to justify purchasing another phone? Not for me, yet. Also the 1080p video recording is neat, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the camcorder feature. Further, who the heck is gonna play phone games on their TVs? lol I can't imagine trying to play Angry Birds on a 42" screen.
On the topic of the screen, a quick googling of the specs seems to pull up it's just a TFT normal LCD screen like the MT4G, EVO, or Droid series. There was a picture LG sent to Phandroid showing their screen to be better than SAMOLED/Retina, but it was a photoshopped image made to generate buzz.
no not going to buy, because there is currently is no real world advantage to have a Dual Core phone. Hell most people dont even have dual core PCs
What's the next phone after the captivate that's going to get a lot of dev attention? It seems like the Inspire and the Atrix aren't getting much, likely due to how hard it is to load ROMs. Is it just a matter of wait and see to know what the next well-developed AT&T Android phone is?
most likely whatever the next samsung phone is, if only because they don't bother with trying to lock them down
As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol
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As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol
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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.
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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.
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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.
Many of our great Cappy devs moved to the Inspire(adamholden, di11i, DG)
Personally I picked up an Inspire but mainly out of boredom, I even flash my cappy more now, lol. As soon as the sgs2 is out for a few weeks ill be grabbing that too. It'll be a pricey move but with the way Samsung has taken care of those customers I see it as a good investment.
I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate
Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year
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Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year
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I don't see waiting for the att version a good idea at all, especially after the froyo situation.
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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.
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I've had pretty good experiences over the years. We have some aging Sony HT gear, including my receiver that's from the 80's, before I was born!! That being said, I'm not so sold on their phones.
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Many of our great Cappy devs moved to the Inspire(adamholden, di11i, DG)
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Really? I don't see a whole lot going on for the Inspire. There's only a couple of roms out right now...
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I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate
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Top of the line hardware? Yeah, right. Samsung's hardware is decent, I love the form factor of the Captivate, but the build quality and RF are definitely a mixed bag. Some big ups, and some big downs.
I would agree about the lockdowns, however, they are a lot more open than Motorola about it.
With Gingerbread source code released, I'm happy with my Captivate for a good while longer. There are still 2.2.1 roms I haven't flashed yet. I dont think I'll be moving on anytime soon
not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.
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not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.
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I wanted to love the Atrix because of it's qHD screen in the 4" form factor, but the way its locked up is just bad. I hope that devs are able to get past it, but the other thing that I'm worried about, both on the official update and ROMs side is that they will be worrying about the whole webtop/dock garbage, and that will slow down the actual software development of the device in order to incorporate a bunch of useless features.
I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.
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I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.
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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?
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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?
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Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.
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Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.
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Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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Those videos of the english guy saying "HALLLOOOOOO!!!!!" on his giant phone will come alive with a smartphone!!!
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-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
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Yeah, just like the GPS in the Captivate.
I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.
I cannot say I am surprised to see this posted here in this forum. Nor would I expect that the Galaxy S II is so much faster than the Sensation as to make the HTC phone feel slow. I am pretty sure that the Samsung phone is quicker overall. This is a good thing. It means that they are pushing innovation forward. I am still happy with the Sensation and as long as it remains as fast and reliable as it already is I will continue to be happy with it.
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I kind of figured there wouldn't be a huge difference,if any at all.
It is nice to hear from someone who's actually used one though.
I'll have to try one out for myself when they come in at Bell.
I had my sexy sensation for nearly two months, still love it very much.
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I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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Lol...great post.
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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I think the design of the phone is more of a personal preference. I would buy the SGSII if it were design differently. As it is, I dislike the design of SGSII so much that I would never buy it even if it cost $200 outright. Again, it is a matter of personal preference.
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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You're right I just made all this up, idiot. I have no idea what company commissioned the research as I do not work for the research group. This is all the information they gave me besides how to get there:
YOUR FOCUS GROUP:
Topic: Mobile phones
Time/Date/Length: 2 hours, Saturday, July 16, 2011
Payment Amount: $100
My buddy works for the research group he posted a status a week ago asking if anyone has HTC or Samsung phones and wants to make 100$ so I told him I did. He asked me a bunch of preliminary questions about what phone I have, if it had android, what apps I use, how often I use them, and a bunch of other similar questions. I then went to this nice office in downtown Chicago for the interview. They put two phones on a desk, the interviewer sat across from me, a camera recorded what I did on the phones from overhead, another camera recorded the interview, and then there were guys behind a one way mirror the interviewer said. There were a bunch of different categories that he had me test out such as the UI, the auditory UI functions, the music players, the lock screens, etc. As I tested he would ask me to comment on them and then rate them out of a certain number to show how satisfactory the categories of the phone were.
Why are people so hostile on these boards? I just related my own experience and my thoughts about the two phones, why are phaggots coming in here attacking me for that. Sorry for not fellating your god phone SGS II.
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Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.
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So I'm a fruit cake and a psyci because I brought up issues with the Sensation and stated my opinion. Did you really feel that upset that you had to resort to name calling? What I would like to know is how Touch Wiz is a rip off of iOS? Can you name 3 reasons why? Atleast Samsung took the time to optimize there UI and didn't just slap some eye candy and a couple rings on top of some resource hogging ****.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.
Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Thank you. Truth be told, I liked the Vibrant's design, although it was a blatant iPhone 3Gs copy. However, the phone's various issues (GPS, RFS system, compass, to name a few) made me hate the phone. I wouldn't be surprised that half the people praising the SGSII are Galaxy S owners who claimed that they will never buy another Samsung again.
[sarcasm on] I suppose that the SGSII is a perfect phone, with no issues or glitches, especially considering who its manufacturer is. [sarcasm off]
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Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
The question has still yet to be answered with something believable with substance...
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During a short period of unemployment a couple of years ago, I participated in various focus groups set up by a company called The Focus Room. The e-mail notifications that I received from them looked exactly the same as what HarmonyK posted.
The top android phones imho are the sensation, galaxy s2, evo 3d, and the droid 3
GorillaPimp said:
Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.
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For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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So there Exynos processor and Mali GPU is crap when it pretty much stomps every other mobile processor?
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For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
By the way I don't get ***** anymore...I'm married. Sounds like your the one in need of a Zoloft, letting posts about other phones get to you so bad.
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Hey guys just trying to decide on a phone I was wondering if the infuse is the phone for me any advice? Do you guys like it? If you could get a different one what would you get? Thanks
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Honestly, at this point wait for the SGSII. The phone come out at the end of the month.
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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welchertc said:
I couldn't be much happier with my Infuse. It's a great phone. However, the SGSII will be coming out soon, so you have a tricky decision to make.
The advantages the Infuse has are a 4.5" screen as opposed to the 4.3" screen on the SGSII. Also, you can walk into a store tomorrow and get it.
The advantages of the SGSII are it's dual core processor, and the fact that it will likely have an insanely huge development community.
Both phones have a 1.2 GHz processor, but the dual core in the SGSII will definitely give it an edge. However, I don't have any lag on my infuse whatsoever, so that is kind of negligible to me.
Also, even though the development community for the Infuse will be smaller in the long run, it isn't bad by any means.
It's really a win-win with either choice in my eyes, as right now I would choose my Infuse over anything on the market right now.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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A easier way to make money with a wow factor.
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Best phone I have ever owned. I love it. Fast, great battery life, and the screen is just simply amazing.
The dev section here sucks, g2g and the rest of the dev's for this phone work hard and create some great stuff but there are far too many arrogant and whiney users constantly putting down their work and crying like little girls because they don't understand how to follow directions or realize that roms are a work in progress. Soon the SII will come out and most of them will leave and this section will get a lot more sane and the SII section is going to go to hell.
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I wonder if dual core will make a "real world" difference? When multi-core CPU's for Desktop and Laptop PC's came out they made little difference until there were applications that supported them. It took a number of years for that to happen for other than high end business products.
Is more hype then fact?
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dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
Dani897 said:
dual core always makes a difference, it just doesnt make a 100% difference. there are times it might eliminate all lag making it seem like a world of difference, other times it can make zero difference. the big advantage is when background services are running or on a pc when you have multiple windows open and running different applications. but now pc applications are multi-threaded taking more advantage even when multi tasking is at a minimum.
also remember the dual core phones have faster ram and are arm cortex a9 processors not a8. there may be some new hardware level advancements that can be taken advantage of in the next android releases.
as far as graphics processing goes we have a good gpu and are comparable to a tegra in raw capabilities. though the benchmarks often give the tegra an advantage in speed i find the renderings to look better on the samsung. im not saying anything one way or another. the infuse can accomplish anything a dual core can as far as far as video playback and graphics but the dual core phones have there merit. look at youtube vids side by side of a sgs2 web browsing against other devices. it powers through flash a lot faster than anything else i have seen.
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I, like MrEdf (I'm Mr. Ed 2 lol) don't see much of a difference when using todays line up of applications when it comes to single vs dual...
the ram is supposed to be better but we have no devices utilizing that to test with right now...so it is just speculation.
take the dual core phones out now and run them through real world scenarios side by side with an overclocked android device be it hummingbird or snapdragon and look for a difference....granted the benchmark will be better on the dual core and it truly is more powerful, there isn't much developed to at this point that will utilize it.
what I hope to see is better multitasking. i get completely scattered going back and forth between apps and my phone gets all pissed off about it.
I've mentioned in a few other threads my plans...I'll test several devices (atrix is already out of the picture) like the lg thrill, the gs2 and my infuse, prolly throw our inspire into the tests just for fun... in the end I will use the one I like the most
I love this phone....right now. ask me again in a month lol
you tube
here we go.
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assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
if difference is fraction of a second then i think one can live with it.
at the end of the day both are just phones and for more complicated work we have laptops and netbooks or tablets.
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here we go.
(video not uploaded by me)
assuming infuse on froyo whereas s2 on gingerbread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqo5Rmx3WtA
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He has some excellent comparison videos...
keep in mind that is the euro s2 as well..who knows what variation we end up with in the US
I love this phone, the devs are awesome and their product is top notch. I have yet to find a rom our kernel that I wouldn't run. Everything is good and its just a matter of preference and a few specific features. The community its great, aside from a few bad apples, but generally they are very helpful and informative.
I too was looking at the sgII but needed a new phone and picked up the infuse, I have no regrets, plus the scuttlebutt if that the attain (att version of sgII) will have a physical keyboard.
All in all, infuse is they best phone I've ever owned and can easily see it keeping me happy for a long time.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
Agree with many people here. Wait for the SGSII. Don't get me wrong, the Infuse is a great phone, but unless the SGSII is over $200 on contract, I would just wait for it
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The SGSII is certainly the phone to beat, however be aware that it has a smaller battery than the Infuse and with the dual core processor it's battery life is not great. Also rumor has it that AT&T's version will have a slide-out keyboard (confirmed by a friend of mine who works at an AT&T store). If that's the case I would have no interest in the phone because the keyboard will make it thicker. In any case you can get an Infuse and have 30 days to try it out before needing to return it. Samsung is having their release event later this month so you'd still be inside the return window if they announce something your interested in. I find the 1.2Ghz processor in the Infuse to be outstanding and don't find any speed complaints, in fact I'd trade better battery life for single core versus dual core. And our Infuse has the largest Super AMOLED Plus screen.
So, I use wp7 right now. It's hands down my favorite OS. However, I want another OS to play around on more. I don't want an iPhone as they bore me, my options are android or meego. Here's my thoughts on each and the devices I'd get.
Droid Razr: Nice hardware, infinite marketplace, I've heard the sound is good. The cons are that the gpu acceleration is still... So-so... There's little chance of updates, I don't think much of the camera, and it will be outdated as quick as it was released. Unfortunately, this is the only android hardware I find considerable.
Nokia N9: Unparalleled hardware, great sound, outstanding camera, extremely well built OS, able to run most android apps. Cons are there's pretty much no chance of a further update (though the OS feels very complete.) the app store is limited, and there's not much in terms of games.
So, your thoughts on the matter? Price is also a concern I suppose. The n9 is much cheaper.
OP I'm sorry, not trying to be a ****, just kind of confused as to why this is posted in the epic 4g touch forums.
It's in the general forums...
Is this showing up in the wrong forum section?
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Is this showing up in the wrong forum section?
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Nope. Its showing up in the general forum
Hit THANKS if I helped u
If you're interested in android, wait for a phone that has better spec than the Galaxy Nexus and is running ICS. ICS is what makes the experience. It's a whole new look and feel than the previous installment, and in my opinion, runs a lot faster and smoother.
If you really want android after talking all that trash on it back in the gingerbread and froyo days, then you sir are insane. Unless you just WANT to start a flame thread.
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watt9493 said:
If you really want android after talking all that trash on it, then you sir are insane. Unless you just WANT to start a flame thread.
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Agreed; you should just get a Symbian.
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Why would I get Symbian when lag and instability are some of my biggest issues. Android has a lot of issues, whether or not you'll acknowledge them is up to you. Windows Phone has just as many issues, if not more. Windows Phone's issues just effect me less because of how I use my device.
KayxGee, thank you. A big concern for me is what the hardware looks like and feels like. Samsung is undoubtedly making the best overall android devices right now, but I haven't seen much android hardware that I like the look of. The Note isn't too terrible.
What are you looking for in screen size, camera, etc? What carrier?
You should definitely try out the N9. The camera is amazing and the OS is definitely different and will be fun to try out
Get the Galaxy S II, not the Razr. the Razr's battery SUCKS.
Mephikun said:
Get the Galaxy S II, not the Razr. the Razr's battery SUCKS.
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The Razr has a better battery life than the Samsung galaxy s II. I dunno what your talking about loool. I have the galaxy s II but when I got the Razr you could instantly tell the Razr had better battery life.
I'm selling my galaxy s II cause I simply prefer the Razr n with that money I will get my self the LG 4x
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I wouldn't buy another GS2, that thing is hideous. I sold my first one and was happy in doing so. I don't care about screen size or processor power, WP7 has shown me that that stuff is primarily a gimmick and is largely unnecessary. I want a device that's aesthetically pleasing and sturdy. As long as it's powerful enough to emulate an SNES my gaming concerns are non-existent. It just seems most android manufacturers are concerned strictly with screen size and processor power rather than the overall quality of the device.
You guys really should stop feeding this thing.
This is obviously a thread for promotion, and flames.
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vetvito said:
You guys really should stop feeding this thing.
This is obviously a thread for promotion, and flames.
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Please don't attempt to instigate in a perfectly valid thread.
Then get an Xperia Play.
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+1
in a meantime... popcorn anyone?
Mephikun said:
Then get an Xperia Play.
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I would, but I could not switch to a CDMA carrier. I swap sims way too often.
Xperia Play has a GSM version as well.
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