I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.
I cannot say I am surprised to see this posted here in this forum. Nor would I expect that the Galaxy S II is so much faster than the Sensation as to make the HTC phone feel slow. I am pretty sure that the Samsung phone is quicker overall. This is a good thing. It means that they are pushing innovation forward. I am still happy with the Sensation and as long as it remains as fast and reliable as it already is I will continue to be happy with it.
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I kind of figured there wouldn't be a huge difference,if any at all.
It is nice to hear from someone who's actually used one though.
I'll have to try one out for myself when they come in at Bell.
I had my sexy sensation for nearly two months, still love it very much.
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I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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Lol...great post.
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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I think the design of the phone is more of a personal preference. I would buy the SGSII if it were design differently. As it is, I dislike the design of SGSII so much that I would never buy it even if it cost $200 outright. Again, it is a matter of personal preference.
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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You're right I just made all this up, idiot. I have no idea what company commissioned the research as I do not work for the research group. This is all the information they gave me besides how to get there:
YOUR FOCUS GROUP:
Topic: Mobile phones
Time/Date/Length: 2 hours, Saturday, July 16, 2011
Payment Amount: $100
My buddy works for the research group he posted a status a week ago asking if anyone has HTC or Samsung phones and wants to make 100$ so I told him I did. He asked me a bunch of preliminary questions about what phone I have, if it had android, what apps I use, how often I use them, and a bunch of other similar questions. I then went to this nice office in downtown Chicago for the interview. They put two phones on a desk, the interviewer sat across from me, a camera recorded what I did on the phones from overhead, another camera recorded the interview, and then there were guys behind a one way mirror the interviewer said. There were a bunch of different categories that he had me test out such as the UI, the auditory UI functions, the music players, the lock screens, etc. As I tested he would ask me to comment on them and then rate them out of a certain number to show how satisfactory the categories of the phone were.
Why are people so hostile on these boards? I just related my own experience and my thoughts about the two phones, why are phaggots coming in here attacking me for that. Sorry for not fellating your god phone SGS II.
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Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.
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So I'm a fruit cake and a psyci because I brought up issues with the Sensation and stated my opinion. Did you really feel that upset that you had to resort to name calling? What I would like to know is how Touch Wiz is a rip off of iOS? Can you name 3 reasons why? Atleast Samsung took the time to optimize there UI and didn't just slap some eye candy and a couple rings on top of some resource hogging ****.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.
Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
The question has still yet to be answered with something believable with substance...
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Thank you. Truth be told, I liked the Vibrant's design, although it was a blatant iPhone 3Gs copy. However, the phone's various issues (GPS, RFS system, compass, to name a few) made me hate the phone. I wouldn't be surprised that half the people praising the SGSII are Galaxy S owners who claimed that they will never buy another Samsung again.
[sarcasm on] I suppose that the SGSII is a perfect phone, with no issues or glitches, especially considering who its manufacturer is. [sarcasm off]
iunlock said:
Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
The question has still yet to be answered with something believable with substance...
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During a short period of unemployment a couple of years ago, I participated in various focus groups set up by a company called The Focus Room. The e-mail notifications that I received from them looked exactly the same as what HarmonyK posted.
The top android phones imho are the sensation, galaxy s2, evo 3d, and the droid 3
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Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.
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For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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So there Exynos processor and Mali GPU is crap when it pretty much stomps every other mobile processor?
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jrwingate6 said:
For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
By the way I don't get ***** anymore...I'm married. Sounds like your the one in need of a Zoloft, letting posts about other phones get to you so bad.
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Hi!
I returned my Samsung Galaxy S2 back to the store and am now waiting for the HTC Sensation. While the Galaxy S2 is a nice phone, I really despise the TouchWiz. Even with ADW Launcher EX & WidgetLocker mitigating the terribleness of the interface Samsung has built, the stock apps still are very uncomfortable to use - especially e-mail, messaging and calendar are lacking. And most of their other attempts at apps aren't any better - dismal at best.
The back cover is unpleasant to remove which is peeving if you like to switch the battery to a fresh one (although spare batteries are not released till mid-june) or regularly move between different countries and therefore like to change SIMs (like I do).
I also would have preferred a capacitive home-button, instead of a physical switch.
Other bugs (which will probably soon be patched) are bothersome as well, like the 3G data connection regularly stalling - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097612
Specs-wise I think having a higher resolution screen will be a very nice addition, the lower amount of RAM & internal storage probably won't be all that noticeable. I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
Are any other Samsung Galaxy S2 expatriates lurking on this board? What were your Galaxy-experiences, why are you now waiting for the HTC Sensation instead?
you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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you are in for a bashing.. but good luck
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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Why? He shared a consice rational review based on how the phone met his expectations. With OP having owned a SGS2 I look forward to a direct comparison to the Sensation by someone who has used them both as their daily driver.
You and epsix get bashed because you're rude, immature, and banter between yourselves like 5 year old school girls at recess. All while adding nothing constructive.
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i dont banter and i have added constructive info. and he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2. and please dont class me with epsix. he is on his own with that. anyway lets see how well this thread goes because i can see it getting ugly. thats all i was saying. some of you guys act so high and mighty that it sometimes get annoying
I returned my SGS2 as well and got Sensation instead.
Sound quality wasn't very good even with Poweramp.
I had a big hope that supercurio will come up with a solution as he did with original SGS, but here what he tweeted
supercurio François Simond
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@kalpik Thanks, appreciated! I start to know my way in Yamaha's driver now. And tend to believe its a non-fixable hardware issue.
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supercurio François Simond
Ok I explored about everything. Clocks, Master/Slave, Effects. I now believe Yamaha messed up by designing a defective DAC for Samsung.
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supercurio François Simond
Flawed, end of story. I'll still explore the external USB DAC option, but nothing related to the Yamaha #MC1N2 unless they fixed themselves
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supercurio François Simond @
@josejacas to my limited comprehension there is a flaw in an internal resampling/oversampling algorithm. Cannot be modified via this driver.
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Of course you need to relativize what I say here. #GalaxySII sound is probably better than most other Android phones. But not iPhone or SGS
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I've lost my hope about GS2 will ever be a good music player like SGS.
Next Thing
I fully charged my SGS2 and turned on Google latitude (As i was travailing), my phone was in the belt pouch, after about three hours i pull the phone out to make a phone call i found my phone burning hot and battery was almost drained. Couldn't bare any more.
I came back home after few days, returned SGS2 and got Sensation.
Sensation is so far so good, Over all very satisfied.
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...he is going to get bashed by the fanboys who will be here looking to praise the sgs2...
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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I didn't mean to paint you as a fanboy. By the same token I'm not a fanboy either. Before the disaster that was the G2X my last five phone's were HTCs and I really liked all of them. I had to get the SGS2 because the Sensation wouldn't have been availbale before the G2X had to be returned to T-Mobile. I would have seriously considered the Sensation if that wasn't the case. I'm a phone geek which is why I'm following the Sensation; not to bash it. Both phones are going to have considerable strengths and weaknesses. We should be able to discuss them without threads turning in to page after page of "yes it is," "no it isn't." Peace.
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i completely agree with you.. but it will never happen because everyone has their opinion and that is what causes all of this nonsense. but fair is fair everyone has a preference but to force your preference on others really pushes my buttons. and you do have to admit they are other who go to other threads to bash others for what they want i do visit the sgs2 forums but out of respect i dont post there because i am not at this moment considering the phone but for knowledge i like to read how it is going.
Good decision.
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I'm agree with you good decision
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I disappoint... Galaxy S II is much better!
Since 2003 I'm a HTC sure user but now I have to disappoint at all with you and with HTC!
I'm very sorry the new sensation is just considered worse than Galaxy S II but we have to admit this is the thuth!
1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
4) cameras: Samsung first one 8mpxl, second one (frontal) 2mpxl; for htc sens is 8mpxl the first one too, but 1.3mpxl the sencond one....
5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
I'm very sad to tell it but this time I'll change and I'll buy a Samsung...
Good decision OP, who cares about SamSux. I'll give give them 2-3 month and all hell will break lose in there. SamSux bashing SamSux, look at our development section phones isn't release and no clockwork mod yet and we have 3 roms already. That just tells you HTC is more superior than SamSux. Untill they change their filesystem, HTC will be prefer choice for dev community. Don't matter what spec they have.
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I loved the fact that the Galaxy S2 is a very sleek design, thin and light. But the drawbacks - especially in the software area - are very obvious. Their replacements of stock Google apps are, in general, not better but much worse than the original. Plenty of bugs still plague the software - the current version of Music player causes random reboots, data connection is stalling all the time.
Sense (from what I could test on colleagues phones - mainly Desire HD) seems much more thought out and usable to me. I will, still, probably switch to a stock Android ROM, should one arise. But I don't want to be dependent on that.
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1) Also if the Galaxy Display resolution (480x800pxl) is lower than htc sens (540x960) its technology is better than htc because is "amoled" and so we have a lower battery consuption, better coulor and luminosity, and better view when there is much sunlight
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While AMOLED certainly does produce excellent black levels and saturated colours (maybe even oversaturated), after owning a Nexus One with AMOLED since release I do think the drawback of the technology is the inevitable screen burn-in you get after a few months of use. Nothing that is really bothersome, but LCD technology certainly does have its advantages (besides the higher resolution)
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2) RAM: 1024Mb for Galaxy, 768Mb for htc: no words.....
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Considering the high RAM usage of Sense, 1GB would have been nice - but still, 768MB should be plenty.
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3) Internal memory: 16Gb or 32Gb (depends by the phone version) for Galaxy while htc sens have got just 1GB! no words still!!
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The actual available application memory on the Galaxy S2 is about 2GB, the rest is formated as an internal SD card. In my situation, I typically have about 500MB of app space used - 2GB would have been a nice, but that will still leave me with plenty of headroom once my Sensation is here. A 32GB SD-card will take care of all other storage problems (mainly podcasts, music).
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5) battery consuption: with a very similar usage Galaxy SII lasts about 2 full days, while HTC sens just 1/1,5days
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This will vary greatly, but the battery access cover on the Galaxy S2 is very flimsy and uncomfortable to remove. I always carry a second battery for my Nexus One, I will do the same for my Sensation. Changing batteries on the Galaxy S2 (as soon as replacements are available in stores) will be a hassle.
i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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You may get flamed by some of the fanboys, but at the end of the day it's all about what feels good to YOU and stuff the rest. I again prefer the more solid feel and try to avoid "cheap" plasticky feel, plus have been put off by plenty of users in many forums I've been to who knock Samsung's lack of updates. Hopefully for you they sort this out. Good luck with your choice
I probably still have a month or 2 before the Sensation is available here, and am hoping for some positive news re the bootloader saga.
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i've done the opposite i've got rid of my sensation and have back ordered the sgs2 the biggest killer for me was the locked bootloader
i know that htc have said they wont lock any more phones but as yet they havent said that they will unlock previous handsets
i know i'm going to get flamed but i really didnt like the sensation it just didnt sit in my hand properly the sgs2 feels better ...... i know it feels cheaper but whats the point in having the expensive feeling phone if it feels wrong in your hand and therefore is difficult to use
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Who's flaming you? It's your choice and your right to choose which phone that fits your needs. I just don't like Samsux fanboy coming here trash talking.
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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Ya, right. What the f**k are you doing here? saving the world?
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There you goes again troll, this man use to have Sensation but dont like it so he bought SGII, I wish him well with his purchase just don't come back here and be a SamSux troll just like you idiots.
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I wonder why HTC didn't include an HSPA+ radio, but I think that is something I can definitively live with.
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What do you mean? The HTC sensation doesn't have HSPA+.
I thought they said "runs on 4G network".
http://blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/12/htc-sensation-4g-t-mobile-unveils-its-most-powerful-handset/
I currently have a G2x as well as the Atrix. Ordered the Sensation and the SGS2 as well. Been using both the G2x and the Atrix for a while now and so far, I'm inclined towards the Atrix even though it has the locked bootloader simply because Ive had too many random reboot issues, freeze issues with the G2x (even though I've returned it twice) and I'm not concerned about the light bleed issue.
Once I've received the SGS2 and the Sensation (This Tuesday woohooo!!), I'll have all 4 to test with side by side. Will narrow it down to the top 2 and those are the ones I'm keeping I usually have 2 phones (1 work, 1 personal). If anyone has any suggestions or want me to look at/compare something in specific, let me know.
It's funny..... These [email protected] trolls still lurking in our thread searching for every details to start **** up? My my..... Go flash some TouchCrap will ya.. LMAO
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As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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ugh, why? This would be almost a waste of money. Consider that in the next 3-4 months a multitude of phones are dropping. For ex: iphone5, htc holiday (htc inspire hd), Samsung galaxy s 2, Lg Thrill, htc lead, Sony Xperia play, Samsung Attain....
I guess my question is, how would making the switch from Android to IOS honestly benefit you and your lifestyle? I prefer android simply because of the openness if I don't feel like sense then I got with cm7 if I feel like sense I flash a sense rom. With IOS you only get jail-broke or non jail-broke, in which some you can't even use i-tunes for apps, which i-tunes still has some apps that cydia doesn't. Not to mention almost all IOS apps are being ported to android.
Though I am just not a fan of apple; I personally don't see a reason to pay absurd amounts of money for something that is technologically behind the times, and over priced for the parts it contains. Take into consideration that everything but IOS is outsourced to other phone makers like lg and samsung.
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As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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I believe you would love the iPhone 4. I know I love mine. And I have Android and WP7. The iPhone 4 has the best battery life of all systems...purely amazing...and just works so well. It isn't as sweet as WP7, but it has all the features and is perfectly reliable. You'll love the apps for iOS as well. I'd say go for it. But keep Android also.
The Wife has one. I opt'd for the inspire because;
1. Cheaper
2. More horse power with the OC
3. More Customization.
4. Games are finally coming in droves for Android.
5. Custom Roms. After a Jailbreak what can you load on an Iphone? Nothing great. I guess you can wear your pirate eye patch, but that is lame....
6. Smaller screen. Ho Damn, I can't stand using the eyephone for internet browsing. Its to small and missing flash....
7. In the near future there will be awesome phones and the iphone 5. Why get last years model?
Ect, ect, ect, ect....
I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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He has an inspire and has every right to ask us how we feel about the switch.
Anyway back on topic. I wouldn't get the iPhone. You will be unhappy with it in a month. iOS has terrible memory management and is SEVERELY limited. It has great battery life because you can't do anything with it lol
There is no true multitasking on the iPhone. My battery life would be great of I closed every app immediately after using it. And I just can not stand how safari reformats everything to what it thinks looks best.
The only thing the iPhone has on android right now is its camera and screen resolution. That's it.
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SupaAvenger79 said:
I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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Worst first comment ever.
...Way to go!
Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other crap but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's woman. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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Blasphemy
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for one you can OC the inspire to 1.99 Ghz and with the iPhone 4 the processor is always at 800 Mhz, it's 1 Ghz underclocked to 800Mhz just like all other ios processors
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Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other **** but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's *****. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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While I don't agree with how this was said (No swearing in the forums please) I agree with the the point r what was said. The only one that will be able to tell you how you will feel about it will be you after you have used it. I have been suprised by phones that I thight were garbage but turned out to be decent. All the info you will need about both your phones is all over the internet. Why make a post in a Development forum that is not even about the device your thinking about getting?
Thread closed
http://gizmodo.com/5831176/steve-kondike-cyanogen-of-cyanogenmod-fame-joins-samsung-mobile
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! This has been a crazy week in mobile news. First Google buys Moto..then Samsung buys Steve..lol
Couldnt get any better unless Google buys T-Mo and AT&T is denied the buy-out..Now THAT would be AWESOME!!!
Sidenote to OP:: Fix the Title description....You messed up..IDK how to edit post titles but i am sure someone here does.
That's ****ty of them... That's a direct copy of the link, minus some chars. to fit in title.
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Damn this could be really bad for the CM lovers . Especially if Samsung makes him
sign a non disclosure agreement . I know he said CM will become a side project
but if Samsung is his employer they have say so now on what he puts out aka
what he develops is Samsungs property
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Damn this could be really bad for the CM lovers . Especially if Samsung makes him
sign a non disclosure agreement . I know he said CM will become a side project
but if Samsung is his employer they have say so now on what he puts out aka
what he develops is Samsungs property
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Only what he develops on their clock for them he won't be able to release. The main foundation and spirit of cyanogenmod won't change.
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CM has a lot of devs now so I'm sure they will continue to put out roms as usual...
Hilarious. Seems like samsung is trying to force us into buying samsung phones now that Cyanogen himself is part of the team. Extremely smart move there. Hope they don't make him kick htc phone support of CM to the curve, which I'm assuming they will. Touchwiz roms are finally about to be worth porting.
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Shocked as ****k.
Wonder what'll happen next.
Wow Samsung. Get rid of touchwix please, Steve ;D
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Apple ditching and suing everyone while samsung is try to take over the cyanogen mod and google is buying motorola but what about htc?
Samsung just took Android to the next level as they have been with there great mobile processors. One thing about Samsung g is they know how to create drivers and optimize their devices. You know when your using a Samsung phone that your getting all of the power the CPU/GPU has to offer. I knew they loved Cyanogen when they gave them a free GSII to start devolopement for it.
This move right here is what you call thinking outside of the box.
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@jrwingate6:
"You cant be serious. Samsung is in another level when it comes to drivers and firmware. Its HTC who doesn't know how to optimize their drivers and firmware which is evident in the new version of Sense. Since the Hummingbird debut, Samsung has done great with drivers and optimizing there firmware. The benchmarks and smooth UI/Browser are more than enough proof. HTC can learn a few things instead of making their UI'S more intrusive. They should fallow Samsungs lead and make them less I intrusive."
Since the other thread was closed, I'll reply here. I am absolutely serious. My opinion is based on the Samsung Vibrant, a phone with a non-functional GPS, compass, and the RFS file system. Perhaps Sammy has learned their lesson from that phone (let's not forget the Behold II) and overhauled their entire coding and manufacturing process. If that's the case, good for them. My experience (and that of countless other users) has not been positive. Again, their new products may have improved, but I am not about to chance $500 (or more) just to test that notion.
With regards to the UI, I love Sense 3.0 and am very impressed with its features and customizations. While I don't hate TouchWiz, I don't particularly care for it, and AOSP is a bit too spartan for my tastes.
By the way, my original post's purpose wasn't to compare Samsung and HTC, nor was it directed towards Galaxy SII. It was directed at Samsung as an entity. I am not particularly loyal to any specific brand. In fact, I can't wait to see what Google will cook up with Motorola. I am, however, adverse to giving my money to manufacturers whose products, through personal use, I have found to be inferior.
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@jrwingate6:
"You cant be serious. Samsung is in another level when it comes to drivers and firmware. Its HTC who doesn't know how to optimize their drivers and firmware which is evident in the new version of Sense. Since the Hummingbird debut, Samsung has done great with drivers and optimizing there firmware. The benchmarks and smooth UI/Browser are more than enough proof. HTC can learn a few things instead of making their UI'S more intrusive. They should fallow Samsungs lead and make them less I intrusive."
Since the other thread was closed, I'll reply here. I am absolutely serious. My opinion is based on the Samsung Vibrant, a phone with a non-functional GPS, compass, and the RFS file system. Perhaps Sammy has learned their lesson from that phone (let's not forget the Behold II) and overhauled their entire coding and manufacturing process. If that's the case, good for them. My experience (and that of countless other users) has not been positive. Again, their new products may have improved, but I am not about to chance $500 (or more) just to test that notion.
With regards to the UI, I love Sense 3.0 and am very impressed with its features and customizations. While I don't hate TouchWiz, I don't particularly care for it, and AOSP is a bit too spartan for my tastes.
By the way, my original post's purpose wasn't to compare Samsung and HTC, nor was it directed towards Galaxy SII. It was directed at Samsung as an entity. I am not particularly loyal to any specific brand. In fact, I can't wait to see what Google will cook up with Motorola. I am, however, adverse to giving my money to manufacturers whose products, through personal use, I have found to be inferior.
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Ok so the Vibrant had GPS and file system problems. They were both fixed. One of which was fixed with NAND memory that every other company wants. Speaking of problems with phones, I can name a whole laundry list of the issues I've had with with the past two HTC phones and one LG phone I've used in the in the past year. Stop acting like issues only exist on Samsung devices
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Stop acting like issues only exist on Samsung devices
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As soon as you stop acting like a Samsung fanboy.
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As soon as you stop acting like a Samsung fanboy.
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Yup. Your right. Im a Samsung fanboy yet I don't use a Samsung phone. Currently I use a Sensation and before that a G2X. I am not loyal to any manufacture.
I just don't like when people try and justify their investment for the next two years. I only speak of the truth and I know that hurts. Unless you can think of something I lied about, I'd be more than willing to admit I'm a Samsung fanboy. Until then, ill keep speaking the ugly truth since the "The device I use" fanboys wont.
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My non-support for Samsung devices is purely an ethical decision. Its comparable to a girlfriend that cheats on you.You will never be able to fully trust her again. No matter what changes she promises to make... (aka hire Cyanogen).
The reality is that they need to hire Cyan to help make their SW updates push out in a timely fashion.
@jrwingate:
Re-read my initial response. Unless I am missing something, there were no justifications there.
In the interest of full disclosure, the only phone (smart or feature) that I've ever kept for close to two years was the G1 (October 2008 - July 2010). I had the Vibrant for 3 months (replaced by MT4G), the MT4G for 7 months, which was replaced by the Sensation. No, I am not rich - T-Mobile retention is kind enough to give me full upgrade pricing, and I sell whatever phone I happen to have at the time to finance the upgrade. I'll probably keep the Sensation for a while, at least until more information about the AT&T buyout is released to the public. If, however, another phone strikes my fancy in the future, I'll sell the Sensation and buy the new phone.
I don't need to justify anything - if a phone doesn't function as advertised/intended (a la Vibrant), I'll sell it and get one that does. However, I won't get a product whose manufacturer released two lemons in a row (Behold II and Galaxy S), regardless of its benchmark scores.
@rizoh66:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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@jrwingate:
Re-read my initial response. Unless I am missing something, there were no justifications there.
In the interest of full disclosure, the only phone (smart or feature) that I've ever kept for close to two years was the G1 (October 2008 - July 2010). I had the Vibrant for 3 months (replaced by MT4G), the MT4G for 7 months, which was replaced by the Sensation. No, I am not rich - T-Mobile retention is kind enough to give me full upgrade pricing, and I sell whatever phone I happen to have at the time to finance the upgrade. I'll probably keep the Sensation for a while, at least until more information about the AT&T buyout is released to the public. If, however, another phone strikes my fancy in the future, I'll sell the Sensation and buy the new phone.
I don't need to justify anything - if a phone doesn't function as advertised/intended (a la Vibrant), I'll sell it and get one that does. However, I won't get a product whose manufacturer released two lemons in a row (Behold II and Galaxy S), regardless of its benchmark scores.
@rizoh66:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Released two lemons in a row? You must be forgetting about the other phones they made? I had no problems with the Vibrant but I never owned the Behold II nor did I want to. I know it was a POS.
Nevermind they just released two hits in a row. Probably twi of the best Android devices ever made.
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Released two lemons in a row? You must be forgetting about the other phones they made? I had no problems with the Vibrant but I never owned the Behold II nor did I want to. I know it was a POS.
Nevermind they just released two hits in a row. Probably twi of the best Android devices ever made.
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I hate samSUCK but I love cyanogen's work. I had a terrible experience with the vibrant and was super bored with the nexus s. SamSUCK is definitely taking steps in the right direction it's super hard to ignore that. I am absolutely a fan of HTC because they make great phones that actually feel like they are worth the off contract price that I am forced to pay. I hate spending $500+ for a phone that feels cheap regardless of the benchmark scores it produces. If samSUCK can put together a device that feels like it's well constructed and not a plastic fisher price toy I will definitely consider giving them a few more of my bucks LOL
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Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
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MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
+1
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PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???
Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.
although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
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+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
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As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.
PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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Gotta say I agree... Love my myTouch 4g!
Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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Alenamari said:
Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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overthinkingme said:
I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...
I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.
whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling there pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
stesa said:
TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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True sir, I'm following you
NiCk.JaY said:
True sir, I'm following you
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Same not interested in the galaxy s4. Had an s3 and it was nothing to write home about
I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.
Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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about a week ago, my next phone was indeterminate between the HTC1, SGS4, and the Motorola X-Phone.
initially, the SGS4 was rumoured to have amazing specs, but recent rumours have Samsung nerfing more and more of these "killer specs" due to production issues(though the 8-core exynos they were originally supposed to be going with was just two switch-between quad cores of different speeds, meaning the qualcomm which is now rumoured isn't actually a nerf after all) .
Add the fact that it will almost certainly be sporting the cheap poly-carbonate shell, the S4 is not a contender for me anymore.
the HTC1's solid build will help it a lot against the SGS4 threat since many buyers base their decision more on how a phone feels than what it contains (just look at all the people buying iPhones)
biggest thing against it will probably be battery life. If HTC didn't pick up their game in this regard, then the rumoured 3000Mah X-phone may take the market.
I wish there was something more substantial than rumours to go by.
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I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.
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same here
I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.
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I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.
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"hyperglaze" ? they should had called it "hypercrap" LOL
The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.
love this thread so far
kalo88 said:
The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.
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I honestly think that samsung was there for the taking at the time of the S3 - it was an underwhelming device. HTC were in with a huge chance but - like the Sensation before it - the One X was plagued with teething problems which put its performance below the GS3 as the time.
It always takes a while and 2-3 updates for HTC devices to realize their potential - remember HTC Sensation and the memory issues with the browser and the launcher? and the GPU lag? The Galaxy S2 had none of that and went on to become the people's champion. HOWEVER - after a few painful months and great dev work the issues were fixed and the Sensation went on to become even better than the S2 IMO - but it was too late.
In the case of the One X, HTC already had the best design and screen on the market but it was plagued with software/driver issues. Honestly, the One X before and after the Jellybean update were too completely different devices - gone was the overheating, the stuttery UI, the poor battery - it had become an amazing phone. But again, most people were put off by the initial problems and just went for the S3 instead.
I feel that HTC really need a solid, issue free launch for the One for it to be a success because, objectively, i don't see anything coming close to the One this year. HTC's really changed the game with the speakers and camera - and no-one saw it coming. All the One now needs is a well executed launch with no major issues and I feel the One can be THE top selling phone of the year.
Now, obviously with any new device there will be bugs in the beginning which is fine as long as they're minor and quickly addressed. Hopefully HTC avoids these issues and really takes the game to Samsung this year.
I applaud HTC for having the guts to do something different.... Samsung will just 'increase' the spec a bit over the S3 and for most people they'll be like 'OMG THIS IS THE BEST PHONE EVER' and if it does what you want then fair enough.
I really really hate how the galaxy range feels so cheap in the hand, when your spending that much money you want a premium product and I think that's why people love Apple so much... It may be expensive but you normally feel like it's worth the cost.
If you ask within the XDA community - whether anyone would cancel their orders for HTC One, answer is NO. Whoever decided to get HTC One is getting it. It doesn't really matter what Samsung shows for GS4, people will get the HTC One who already pre-ordered.
The same question if you ask outside the XDA community, then it's something totally different. As always, only thing which will push the device to consumers is marketing, promotion and brand awareness. HTC has to match Samsung's efforts in marketing. Else, many people might actually cancel the order.
Android Central is hosting "World's First Samsung Galaxy S4 Contest". Really!! And there are now close to 4000 comments already. HTC needs something to combat this Samsung marketing juggernaut.
I think HTC's deal with AOL might help them. All AOL sites are part of blinkfeed.
http://blog.aol.com/2013/02/19/aol-debuts-on-the-brand-new-htc-one/
They will however need much more than that. Expect a good review from Engadget and Techcrunch for HTC One.
stesa said:
TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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I agree with the statement above. ^^^^^ Thing is, Samsung has made a name for itself just like Apple, The iPhone isn't that great, but people worship apple like they are perfect. Coming from an iOS community i've seen the most ridiculous BS ever. Following people on twitter waiting over night for the next iPhone, iPad, crappy Macbooks, when none of them are ever that great. Just over expensive and too simple. They practically worship apple and its disgusting. I can understand people going for the "just works" slogan because, well, they "just work", great. But people who are on android want way more than that. Which is why i find Android Superior and am going from a iPhone 4 to an HTC One. Even though Android IS better in pretty much every aspect, people go to apple. They were the first, so they had a head start and made a name for themselves. (Also I think android before 4.0 was bad anyways, I didn't like it and i haven't seen so many people switch until 4.0 was out) So it will most likely be that Apple will always be ahead in smartphone sales. Samsung also was an early competitor, and was able to get there name out there since they had so much money to advertise. So everyone I know is either ALL APPLE, or they will only go for Samsung, thinking everything else is inferior. Not saying Samsung is terrible, but they got ahead while I think there smartphones aren't superior. This is why I think Samsung will hurt HTC when it comes too sales. Samsung is big, HTC isn't.
Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Looks like tomatoes8 is back with a ghost account.
Anyways less db's on HTC forums.
stesa said:
TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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Actually, if you care about HTC as a company then you should care about the announcement - it would be an understatement to say that this is the most crucial battle yet for HTC - and they've done their part by making an excellent product. So let's see.
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Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.
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Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.
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