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http://gizmodo.comsteve-kondik-cyanogen-of-cyanogenmod-fame-joins-samsung-mobile - HTC Sensation

http://gizmodo.com/5831176/steve-kondike-cyanogen-of-cyanogenmod-fame-joins-samsung-mobile
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! This has been a crazy week in mobile news. First Google buys Moto..then Samsung buys Steve..lol
Couldnt get any better unless Google buys T-Mo and AT&T is denied the buy-out..Now THAT would be AWESOME!!!
Sidenote to OP:: Fix the Title description....You messed up..IDK how to edit post titles but i am sure someone here does.

That's ****ty of them... That's a direct copy of the link, minus some chars. to fit in title.
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Damn this could be really bad for the CM lovers . Especially if Samsung makes him
sign a non disclosure agreement . I know he said CM will become a side project
but if Samsung is his employer they have say so now on what he puts out aka
what he develops is Samsungs property

AZ2ENVY said:
Damn this could be really bad for the CM lovers . Especially if Samsung makes him
sign a non disclosure agreement . I know he said CM will become a side project
but if Samsung is his employer they have say so now on what he puts out aka
what he develops is Samsungs property
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Only what he develops on their clock for them he won't be able to release. The main foundation and spirit of cyanogenmod won't change.
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CM has a lot of devs now so I'm sure they will continue to put out roms as usual...

Hilarious. Seems like samsung is trying to force us into buying samsung phones now that Cyanogen himself is part of the team. Extremely smart move there. Hope they don't make him kick htc phone support of CM to the curve, which I'm assuming they will. Touchwiz roms are finally about to be worth porting.
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Shocked as ****k.
Wonder what'll happen next.

Wow Samsung. Get rid of touchwix please, Steve ;D
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Apple ditching and suing everyone while samsung is try to take over the cyanogen mod and google is buying motorola but what about htc?

Samsung just took Android to the next level as they have been with there great mobile processors. One thing about Samsung g is they know how to create drivers and optimize their devices. You know when your using a Samsung phone that your getting all of the power the CPU/GPU has to offer. I knew they loved Cyanogen when they gave them a free GSII to start devolopement for it.
This move right here is what you call thinking outside of the box.
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@jrwingate6:
"You cant be serious. Samsung is in another level when it comes to drivers and firmware. Its HTC who doesn't know how to optimize their drivers and firmware which is evident in the new version of Sense. Since the Hummingbird debut, Samsung has done great with drivers and optimizing there firmware. The benchmarks and smooth UI/Browser are more than enough proof. HTC can learn a few things instead of making their UI'S more intrusive. They should fallow Samsungs lead and make them less I intrusive."
Since the other thread was closed, I'll reply here. I am absolutely serious. My opinion is based on the Samsung Vibrant, a phone with a non-functional GPS, compass, and the RFS file system. Perhaps Sammy has learned their lesson from that phone (let's not forget the Behold II) and overhauled their entire coding and manufacturing process. If that's the case, good for them. My experience (and that of countless other users) has not been positive. Again, their new products may have improved, but I am not about to chance $500 (or more) just to test that notion.
With regards to the UI, I love Sense 3.0 and am very impressed with its features and customizations. While I don't hate TouchWiz, I don't particularly care for it, and AOSP is a bit too spartan for my tastes.
By the way, my original post's purpose wasn't to compare Samsung and HTC, nor was it directed towards Galaxy SII. It was directed at Samsung as an entity. I am not particularly loyal to any specific brand. In fact, I can't wait to see what Google will cook up with Motorola. I am, however, adverse to giving my money to manufacturers whose products, through personal use, I have found to be inferior.

kgbkny said:
@jrwingate6:
"You cant be serious. Samsung is in another level when it comes to drivers and firmware. Its HTC who doesn't know how to optimize their drivers and firmware which is evident in the new version of Sense. Since the Hummingbird debut, Samsung has done great with drivers and optimizing there firmware. The benchmarks and smooth UI/Browser are more than enough proof. HTC can learn a few things instead of making their UI'S more intrusive. They should fallow Samsungs lead and make them less I intrusive."
Since the other thread was closed, I'll reply here. I am absolutely serious. My opinion is based on the Samsung Vibrant, a phone with a non-functional GPS, compass, and the RFS file system. Perhaps Sammy has learned their lesson from that phone (let's not forget the Behold II) and overhauled their entire coding and manufacturing process. If that's the case, good for them. My experience (and that of countless other users) has not been positive. Again, their new products may have improved, but I am not about to chance $500 (or more) just to test that notion.
With regards to the UI, I love Sense 3.0 and am very impressed with its features and customizations. While I don't hate TouchWiz, I don't particularly care for it, and AOSP is a bit too spartan for my tastes.
By the way, my original post's purpose wasn't to compare Samsung and HTC, nor was it directed towards Galaxy SII. It was directed at Samsung as an entity. I am not particularly loyal to any specific brand. In fact, I can't wait to see what Google will cook up with Motorola. I am, however, adverse to giving my money to manufacturers whose products, through personal use, I have found to be inferior.
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Ok so the Vibrant had GPS and file system problems. They were both fixed. One of which was fixed with NAND memory that every other company wants. Speaking of problems with phones, I can name a whole laundry list of the issues I've had with with the past two HTC phones and one LG phone I've used in the in the past year. Stop acting like issues only exist on Samsung devices
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jrwingate6 said:
Stop acting like issues only exist on Samsung devices
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As soon as you stop acting like a Samsung fanboy.

kgbkny said:
As soon as you stop acting like a Samsung fanboy.
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Yup. Your right. Im a Samsung fanboy yet I don't use a Samsung phone. Currently I use a Sensation and before that a G2X. I am not loyal to any manufacture.
I just don't like when people try and justify their investment for the next two years. I only speak of the truth and I know that hurts. Unless you can think of something I lied about, I'd be more than willing to admit I'm a Samsung fanboy. Until then, ill keep speaking the ugly truth since the "The device I use" fanboys wont.
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My non-support for Samsung devices is purely an ethical decision. Its comparable to a girlfriend that cheats on you.You will never be able to fully trust her again. No matter what changes she promises to make... (aka hire Cyanogen).
The reality is that they need to hire Cyan to help make their SW updates push out in a timely fashion.

@jrwingate:
Re-read my initial response. Unless I am missing something, there were no justifications there.
In the interest of full disclosure, the only phone (smart or feature) that I've ever kept for close to two years was the G1 (October 2008 - July 2010). I had the Vibrant for 3 months (replaced by MT4G), the MT4G for 7 months, which was replaced by the Sensation. No, I am not rich - T-Mobile retention is kind enough to give me full upgrade pricing, and I sell whatever phone I happen to have at the time to finance the upgrade. I'll probably keep the Sensation for a while, at least until more information about the AT&T buyout is released to the public. If, however, another phone strikes my fancy in the future, I'll sell the Sensation and buy the new phone.
I don't need to justify anything - if a phone doesn't function as advertised/intended (a la Vibrant), I'll sell it and get one that does. However, I won't get a product whose manufacturer released two lemons in a row (Behold II and Galaxy S), regardless of its benchmark scores.
@rizoh66:
Couldn't have said it better myself.

kgbkny said:
@jrwingate:
Re-read my initial response. Unless I am missing something, there were no justifications there.
In the interest of full disclosure, the only phone (smart or feature) that I've ever kept for close to two years was the G1 (October 2008 - July 2010). I had the Vibrant for 3 months (replaced by MT4G), the MT4G for 7 months, which was replaced by the Sensation. No, I am not rich - T-Mobile retention is kind enough to give me full upgrade pricing, and I sell whatever phone I happen to have at the time to finance the upgrade. I'll probably keep the Sensation for a while, at least until more information about the AT&T buyout is released to the public. If, however, another phone strikes my fancy in the future, I'll sell the Sensation and buy the new phone.
I don't need to justify anything - if a phone doesn't function as advertised/intended (a la Vibrant), I'll sell it and get one that does. However, I won't get a product whose manufacturer released two lemons in a row (Behold II and Galaxy S), regardless of its benchmark scores.
@rizoh66:
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Released two lemons in a row? You must be forgetting about the other phones they made? I had no problems with the Vibrant but I never owned the Behold II nor did I want to. I know it was a POS.
Nevermind they just released two hits in a row. Probably twi of the best Android devices ever made.
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jrwingate6 said:
Released two lemons in a row? You must be forgetting about the other phones they made? I had no problems with the Vibrant but I never owned the Behold II nor did I want to. I know it was a POS.
Nevermind they just released two hits in a row. Probably twi of the best Android devices ever made.
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I hate samSUCK but I love cyanogen's work. I had a terrible experience with the vibrant and was super bored with the nexus s. SamSUCK is definitely taking steps in the right direction it's super hard to ignore that. I am absolutely a fan of HTC because they make great phones that actually feel like they are worth the off contract price that I am forced to pay. I hate spending $500+ for a phone that feels cheap regardless of the benchmark scores it produces. If samSUCK can put together a device that feels like it's well constructed and not a plastic fisher price toy I will definitely consider giving them a few more of my bucks LOL
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.02: it's your loss if you're a fanboy in any way.

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I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?

Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.

Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.

leetpriest said:
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
Mac

lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!

there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.

Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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cdwhit said:
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.

firehazard said:
lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!

Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.

A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
firehazard said:
lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.

This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.

Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.

cdwhit said:
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.

if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss

thecellx said:
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.

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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.

I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.

I cannot say I am surprised to see this posted here in this forum. Nor would I expect that the Galaxy S II is so much faster than the Sensation as to make the HTC phone feel slow. I am pretty sure that the Samsung phone is quicker overall. This is a good thing. It means that they are pushing innovation forward. I am still happy with the Sensation and as long as it remains as fast and reliable as it already is I will continue to be happy with it.
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I kind of figured there wouldn't be a huge difference,if any at all.
It is nice to hear from someone who's actually used one though.
I'll have to try one out for myself when they come in at Bell.

I had my sexy sensation for nearly two months, still love it very much.
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HarmonyK said:
I took part today in a focus group interview where they had me test out a Sensation 4G (which I already own anyway haha) and a Samsung Galaxy S II. It was pretty cool. They basically had the two phones there on a table with a camera pointed down at them, and I sat there testing out different aspects of them while the interviewer asked me to compare the 2 and talk about what I liked better.
After using both phones for about 2 hours, I have to say I was disappointed by the Galaxy S II. The way people were talking about it, I was expecting the most amazing phone in the world. In my eyes, the phone was barely faster and smoother than the Sensation, while the trade off here is that the Galaxy S II is very ugly, in every way. The design of the phone sucks, the interface sucks. The look of the settings menu and application menus reminds me of a windows 95 computer.
The touch sensitivity and smoothness of swiping the screen was a little bit better than the Sensation which I liked. But the applications launching and loading really was maybe 1 millisecond faster than the Sensation if at all.
This made me really happy with my decision to purchase the Sensation instead of waiting for the Hercules.
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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.

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I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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Lol...great post.
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Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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jrwingate6 said:
Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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I think the design of the phone is more of a personal preference. I would buy the SGSII if it were design differently. As it is, I dislike the design of SGSII so much that I would never buy it even if it cost $200 outright. Again, it is a matter of personal preference.

jrwingate6 said:
Ok, first off I have a Sensation and a G2X and as I've said before I like both phones but the Sensation tickles my fancy a little more. That being said. I am not the type of person who thinks my phone is the best in the world and there are no others better. I hate it when people defend there phones to no end just because there stuck with it for a year or two. Not to sound stuck up or anything but if I want a phone, I buy it without thinking about how much it costs and I can tell you right now, as soon as the SGSII gets to the states on a carrier besides ATT, its mine. Why? Because its the best damn phone available right now. Samsung is constantely pushing the envolope with there displays and always have one of the most powerful mobile processors available. Not to mention, the only Angldroid phone available with hardware accelerated browsing. That right there is ****ing innovation. Samsung is also moving in the right direction with there TouchWiz UI unlike HTC who's moving in the wrong direction with Sense. TouchWiz is getting less intrusive while Sense is getting more intrusive with nothing but resource bogging eye candy. TouchWiz actually adds useful stuff to Android and I can't understand why anyone would dislike the new iteration. Just throw a launcher on top of it and you still get to keep the features that HTC and every other manufacture wish they thought of first such as swiping on your contacts to call them or start a text and the ever so useful drop down menu filled with wifi/GPS switches. Lastly, I don't understand how the GSII is ugly when its just a thin slab of plastic.....Oh, and don't even say its poorly made because my Vibrant was probably one of the most durable phones I've ever used while still remaining light enough to forget its even in my pocket.
Bottom line. Stop thinking your phone is the best.....Its NOT!
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Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.

BarryH_GEG said:
I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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You're right I just made all this up, idiot. I have no idea what company commissioned the research as I do not work for the research group. This is all the information they gave me besides how to get there:
YOUR FOCUS GROUP:
Topic: Mobile phones
Time/Date/Length: 2 hours, Saturday, July 16, 2011
Payment Amount: $100
My buddy works for the research group he posted a status a week ago asking if anyone has HTC or Samsung phones and wants to make 100$ so I told him I did. He asked me a bunch of preliminary questions about what phone I have, if it had android, what apps I use, how often I use them, and a bunch of other similar questions. I then went to this nice office in downtown Chicago for the interview. They put two phones on a desk, the interviewer sat across from me, a camera recorded what I did on the phones from overhead, another camera recorded the interview, and then there were guys behind a one way mirror the interviewer said. There were a bunch of different categories that he had me test out such as the UI, the auditory UI functions, the music players, the lock screens, etc. As I tested he would ask me to comment on them and then rate them out of a certain number to show how satisfactory the categories of the phone were.
Why are people so hostile on these boards? I just related my own experience and my thoughts about the two phones, why are phaggots coming in here attacking me for that. Sorry for not fellating your god phone SGS II.

HarmonyK said:
Take it easy, psycho. First off, I didn't say my phone is the best. I clearly stated that the SGS II is faster, runs smoother. But first off, TouchWiz is a ****ty iOS ripoff so it'll be moving in the right direction when it redesigns it to be original. I didn't say the SGSII is poorly made, but it's ugly. The HTC Sensation is a much better looking phone, and I'm pretty sure every article online comparing the two noted this in its reviews. I said that I was happy with my purchase of the the Sensation because to me the difference in performance wasn't very much, never did I say the Sensation is the god phone and beats every phone out there. So calm down, you fruitcake.
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So I'm a fruit cake and a psyci because I brought up issues with the Sensation and stated my opinion. Did you really feel that upset that you had to resort to name calling? What I would like to know is how Touch Wiz is a rip off of iOS? Can you name 3 reasons why? Atleast Samsung took the time to optimize there UI and didn't just slap some eye candy and a couple rings on top of some resource hogging ****.
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^^^^^^^^
Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.

Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
The question has still yet to be answered with something believable with substance...
BarryH_GEG said:
I do market research, tell me a little more about this focus group. Which company commissioned the research? Name of the research company running it? What questions did you have to answer in advance prior to being selected? Why you were selected? Objective for bringing the group together? How much were you paid? Focus groups are very structured - the don't put you in a room to play with toys for two hours. No offense, this sounds like a focus group of one.
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scottspa74 said:
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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Thank you. Truth be told, I liked the Vibrant's design, although it was a blatant iPhone 3Gs copy. However, the phone's various issues (GPS, RFS system, compass, to name a few) made me hate the phone. I wouldn't be surprised that half the people praising the SGSII are Galaxy S owners who claimed that they will never buy another Samsung again.
[sarcasm on] I suppose that the SGSII is a perfect phone, with no issues or glitches, especially considering who its manufacturer is. [sarcasm off]

iunlock said:
Haha classic....
He said the name was your focus group? Stated the date and amount?
Am I missing something here? Lol
The question has still yet to be answered with something believable with substance...
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During a short period of unemployment a couple of years ago, I participated in various focus groups set up by a company called The Focus Room. The e-mail notifications that I received from them looked exactly the same as what HarmonyK posted.

The top android phones imho are the sensation, galaxy s2, evo 3d, and the droid 3

GorillaPimp said:
Why do people who own both phones go into every ****ing opinion thread and attempt to ram their opinion that the Sensation is inferior down other people's throats?
If it is so much better and Samsung is so superior then they surely do not need you defending them so strenuously.
Supposedly superior hardware does not add up to a superior device for any given user. The iPhone is proof of that. The **** is totally subjective. One guy hates plastic and another hates Sense3.0. Who gives a ****
Do Sensation owners here go into the SGS2 forums to debate who has a better device? Asking honestly becuz I'm wondering. Is this **** to feel better about your purchase or are you at least getting paid by these manufacturers?
Jesus H Christ get some ****ing ***** or penis or whatever it is you lust after or take a damn zoloft and stfu.
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For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
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scottspa74 said:
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Wow dude, you're nuts.
Also. Samsung ONLY makes crap. Ugly crap at best.
Especially their vibrant/fascinate series.
I played with a sensation recently and was was awed by the beauty and build of it (and I usually am not impressed by anything other than my Evo)
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So there Exynos processor and Mali GPU is crap when it pretty much stomps every other mobile processor?
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jrwingate6 said:
For the record I do not own both phoned nor have I ever posted in the GSII forums. Why is it that people get mad when other Sensation owners give there opinion about different phones? HTC clearly released a product before it was optimized for best performance and ****ty drivers AS USUAL and I'm not the type of person who is going to defend any company just because I like there products or own there flagship phone. If you look back in my previous posts you will see that I have praised the Sensation to no end. Like I said before. I love my Sensation but I'm not affraid to say, I think the GSII is the more polished device with less major bugs and a great set of drivers.
By the way I don't get ***** anymore...I'm married. Sounds like your the one in need of a Zoloft, letting posts about other phones get to you so bad.
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Pissing Me Off
I've been lurking the HTC Facebook & I'm just tired of their bull****. Cancel of Desire HD ICS has put a big X on them by many customers. Don't even get me start on the way they've let us deal with these bugs of 3 dot menu, auto focus issues, yellow tint, overheat, & MULTITASKING. HTC is pissing me off with this crap. I've simply devised a plan to solve all our issues, which I will get to later.
Apple
We all know Apple poses a serious threat with fanboy and stolen ideas... We know this, but Apple also supports their crap. I hate Apple to the core, but they care about their phones. They all get upgrades... Unlike our ****ty upgrade policy & it doesn't depend on carriers. Apple isn't at the mercy of the carrier bull**** like we are. That's the main 2 problems with Android... The carrier bottle neck & timely upgrades. Still, Apple blows with a dull ass ui.
HTC, Motorola & Samsung
We all know the strengths & weaknesses of the big 3 here. HTC has excellent build quality & Sense is beast (to me), but it's a resource hog & HTC is not too damn dev friendly. Let's not forget hboot1.5 & the thousands of different phone models they release every year. Samsung has cheap plastic devices, horrible radios, a ****ty UI, BUT always have top of the line specs. You can't say I'm wrong there. Samsung has always somehow trumped HTC & Motorola with specs. Motorola is just garbage to me, but the have the best radios hands down. They also have the beast battery inside the Razor Maxx.
Defeating Apple... With The Nexus
It's the only way at this point... But we need the help of the big 3. Pure Android, with timely updates, is the sure fire way to stop them. Google can't build the phone tho... So this is what needs to be done. We need to take all the strengths from the big 3 & use them against apple. The build quality from HTC, the specs from Samsung & the radios & Razor Maxx battery from Motorola is all we need. Google can focus on software & firmware updates alone. We will also need Google to prevent carrier bottle neck & the addition of bloat. Google should also NOT let them brand the Nexus. Apple isn't bloated or branded with sprint bull****, the nexus shouldn't be either.
Promotion
Plain & simple Apple wins here, but we can stop them. Google needs to promote like hell. Apple lies in advertising, but we can beat them with facts. The Nexus needs to be promoted so much, even when you sleep you see advertising.
Dev Community
No doubt this phone should come s-off with no bootloader locked. You should be able to flash everything from the phone itself except the stock recovery the phone comes with. You should only use adb 1 time to push a custom recovery. If this isn't possible... Take the HTC approach, but tweak it. Kernel source, drivers, etc will all be available DAY 1.
The Name
Well, the name of the next Nexus should be decided upon by me. Since my game plan here will destroy apple... I think it's more than fair. I've come up with 5 names... No other way:
1. Kao Nexus
2. Transcendent Nexus
3. The Nexus
4. Nexus 5
5. Nexus X (for extermination of Apple)
This is what should be done. Any thoughts?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!

You take this way too seriously. Go out sometime
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Moto has better build quality than HTC.
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I thought it was pretty funny :thumbup:
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That's ALL we have to do, huh? OK. Gimme about 15 - 20 minutes.
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flex360 said:
You take this way too seriously. Go out sometime
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If you have nothing positive to say, don't say anything at all please.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!

This felt like the speech before the big battle in brave heart!
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How does any of that solve any of the perceived issues that you listed?

So when do I get the free sword & armor?
Injunction nullification & contract shredding spells wanted. Can't have the revolution tripping over that nonsense.
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KaoMinerva said:
If you have nothing positive to say, don't say anything at all please.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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I can 'positively say', this thread should just be locked before hell breaks loose.

*has nothing nice to say, so says nothing*

This is why the site is going to poop. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!

KaoMinerva said:
This is why the site is going to ****. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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Your ideas are talks of getting rival companies to just put their differences and own business strategies aside to *win*. Seems to resonate of 'fixing' the Middle East...
And your question of, "how can the next nexus device not beast Apple?"
Answer: Because regardless of what you may think would be best, cell phone consumers are going to buy their next phone due to personal preference. Whether that preference is familiarity (as apple holds the title for: unchanging ui). Or cutting edge hardware, or software.
No company can put out a device that flat out everyone is going to love. And putting out a 'perfect device' would boost their short term incomes, but hamper long term due to, "why buy another device if this one is perfect?" That's just bad business strategy.

Phutt89 said:
This felt like the speech before the big battle in brave heart!
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Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KaoMinerva said:
This is why the site is going to ****. None of my ideas can stop apple? The Galaxy Nexus isn't advertised like it's supposed to? If we take all the positives from HTC, Sammy, & Motorola... We can take them down. With a super dev friendly Nexus & source ready to go day 1... How can the next Nexus device not beast apple?
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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You think the site is going to hell becasue nobody agrees with your unrealistic ideas to take down apple? Nothing will "take down" apple. Do you think that when android sells more devices than apple, apple will just dissapear? Because they already are, and last time I checked, apple was still around.

Well, still, imagine what the next Nexus will be if HTC, MOTOROLA, & Sammy combined all 3 of their strong points together in one device powered by pure Google Android. That would be amazing. Excellent build quality, powerful specs, awesome radios & Razor Maxx battery is a dream device. Not to mention the unmentioned things like Gorilla Glass 2, Super LCD2, image sense chip of course (thanks HTC), 4.7 inch screen... Super dev friendly with source & drivers day 1!!!!! Jizz on screen bro... Jizz on screen if this came to be.
Naming it Kao Nexus is just a bonus & show of gratitude to me.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!

KaoMinerva said:
Well, still, imagine what the next Nexus will be if HTC, MOTOROLA, & Sammy combined all 3 of their strong points together in one device powered by pure Google Android. That would be amazing. Excellent build quality, powerful specs, awesome radios & Razor Maxx battery is a dream device. Not to mention the unmentioned things like Gorilla Glass 2, Super LCD2, image sense chip of course (thanks HTC), 4.7 inch screen... Super dev friendly with source & drivers day 1!!!!! Jizz on screen bro... Jizz on screen if this came to be.
Naming it Kao Nexus is just a bonus & show of gratitude to me.
LT. EVO reporting sir!!!
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And no one would use it, because 97% of the users out there don't WANT 'pure google', they want Sense, or Touchwiz (I refuse to believe anyone actually WANTS 'Blur').
What's perfect to YOU, isn't perfect to most of the consumers who could give a damn what android or apple is doing as long as the device meets their personal criteria.
I think you overestimate the numbers of people that care about unlocking and customizing their phones. It's really close to 2-3%. Most people just want to turn the phone on and have it work.

Technics0891 said:
Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I like how they ran wily nilly into battle. It was all about the shield wall or you lost.
And the battle of Stirling was actually the battle of Stirling bridge. Braveheart was f all inaccurate.
And the princess he had an affair with was 6 years old at the time.
What can i say im a history nerd
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scottspa74 said:
That's ALL we have to do, huh? OK. Gimme about 15 - 20 minutes.
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Haha word lol
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Wait! What? ...what just happened?
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Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling there pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?

stesa said:
TBH I don't give a f u c k about samsung , about their announcements and about their phones , am I wronging something ?
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True sir, I'm following you

NiCk.JaY said:
True sir, I'm following you
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Same not interested in the galaxy s4. Had an s3 and it was nothing to write home about

I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.

Gunner86 said:
Samsung announced today that they will be revealing the S4 on March 14th, the day before the One's launch. Hopefully it doesn't ruin htc's launch, i can see alot of people canceling their pre orders after seeing the S4's specs. What do you guys think?
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about a week ago, my next phone was indeterminate between the HTC1, SGS4, and the Motorola X-Phone.
initially, the SGS4 was rumoured to have amazing specs, but recent rumours have Samsung nerfing more and more of these "killer specs" due to production issues(though the 8-core exynos they were originally supposed to be going with was just two switch-between quad cores of different speeds, meaning the qualcomm which is now rumoured isn't actually a nerf after all) .
Add the fact that it will almost certainly be sporting the cheap poly-carbonate shell, the S4 is not a contender for me anymore.
the HTC1's solid build will help it a lot against the SGS4 threat since many buyers base their decision more on how a phone feels than what it contains (just look at all the people buying iPhones)
biggest thing against it will probably be battery life. If HTC didn't pick up their game in this regard, then the rumoured 3000Mah X-phone may take the market.
I wish there was something more substantial than rumours to go by.

R89SONY said:
I agree about Samsung, I had S3 and Note 2 and both are nothing to write home about except for note 2 battery life.
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same here

I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.

omersak said:
I don't expect there to be a huge overall jump in anything - The S3 was an underwhelming update to the S2 - same damn camera, pentile screen etc.
But rest assured that Samsung will have some sort of ace up it's sleeve and/or marketing gimmicky crap (Pop up play, Nature UX ,S-voice, Smart Stay, S-note, S-tits) that will devour the entire market share of the segment.
Samsung does do the basics well though - it will have microSD and I expect the battery of the S4 to be excellent and close to 3000mAh - but they have very Apple like followers now. If they include some aluminum on their chassis and call it hyperaluminum and it'd sell 10 million on that alone.
I mean seriously - they called the glossy plastic back on the S3 'hyperglaze'.
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"hyperglaze" ? they should had called it "hypercrap" LOL

The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.

love this thread so far

kalo88 said:
The only feature I thought that was quite clever on the s3 was the 'smart stay' thing... Pop up play I NEVER used... ever! S Voice was a pile of crap, most of the features were naff
And lets be honest... Samsung has made it's fortune by essentially ripping off apple with its design, people will jump on me for saying that but it's true. A physical home key with the other android keys that fade into the background so it looks like they're not there, similar shapes, a UI that looks extremely similar. Samsung have done well with marketing but.. not for me Each to their own I guess.
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I honestly think that samsung was there for the taking at the time of the S3 - it was an underwhelming device. HTC were in with a huge chance but - like the Sensation before it - the One X was plagued with teething problems which put its performance below the GS3 as the time.
It always takes a while and 2-3 updates for HTC devices to realize their potential - remember HTC Sensation and the memory issues with the browser and the launcher? and the GPU lag? The Galaxy S2 had none of that and went on to become the people's champion. HOWEVER - after a few painful months and great dev work the issues were fixed and the Sensation went on to become even better than the S2 IMO - but it was too late.
In the case of the One X, HTC already had the best design and screen on the market but it was plagued with software/driver issues. Honestly, the One X before and after the Jellybean update were too completely different devices - gone was the overheating, the stuttery UI, the poor battery - it had become an amazing phone. But again, most people were put off by the initial problems and just went for the S3 instead.
I feel that HTC really need a solid, issue free launch for the One for it to be a success because, objectively, i don't see anything coming close to the One this year. HTC's really changed the game with the speakers and camera - and no-one saw it coming. All the One now needs is a well executed launch with no major issues and I feel the One can be THE top selling phone of the year.
Now, obviously with any new device there will be bugs in the beginning which is fine as long as they're minor and quickly addressed. Hopefully HTC avoids these issues and really takes the game to Samsung this year.

I applaud HTC for having the guts to do something different.... Samsung will just 'increase' the spec a bit over the S3 and for most people they'll be like 'OMG THIS IS THE BEST PHONE EVER' and if it does what you want then fair enough.
I really really hate how the galaxy range feels so cheap in the hand, when your spending that much money you want a premium product and I think that's why people love Apple so much... It may be expensive but you normally feel like it's worth the cost.

If you ask within the XDA community - whether anyone would cancel their orders for HTC One, answer is NO. Whoever decided to get HTC One is getting it. It doesn't really matter what Samsung shows for GS4, people will get the HTC One who already pre-ordered.
The same question if you ask outside the XDA community, then it's something totally different. As always, only thing which will push the device to consumers is marketing, promotion and brand awareness. HTC has to match Samsung's efforts in marketing. Else, many people might actually cancel the order.
Android Central is hosting "World's First Samsung Galaxy S4 Contest". Really!! And there are now close to 4000 comments already. HTC needs something to combat this Samsung marketing juggernaut.
I think HTC's deal with AOL might help them. All AOL sites are part of blinkfeed.
http://blog.aol.com/2013/02/19/aol-debuts-on-the-brand-new-htc-one/
They will however need much more than that. Expect a good review from Engadget and Techcrunch for HTC One.

stesa said:
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I agree with the statement above. ^^^^^ Thing is, Samsung has made a name for itself just like Apple, The iPhone isn't that great, but people worship apple like they are perfect. Coming from an iOS community i've seen the most ridiculous BS ever. Following people on twitter waiting over night for the next iPhone, iPad, crappy Macbooks, when none of them are ever that great. Just over expensive and too simple. They practically worship apple and its disgusting. I can understand people going for the "just works" slogan because, well, they "just work", great. But people who are on android want way more than that. Which is why i find Android Superior and am going from a iPhone 4 to an HTC One. Even though Android IS better in pretty much every aspect, people go to apple. They were the first, so they had a head start and made a name for themselves. (Also I think android before 4.0 was bad anyways, I didn't like it and i haven't seen so many people switch until 4.0 was out) So it will most likely be that Apple will always be ahead in smartphone sales. Samsung also was an early competitor, and was able to get there name out there since they had so much money to advertise. So everyone I know is either ALL APPLE, or they will only go for Samsung, thinking everything else is inferior. Not saying Samsung is terrible, but they got ahead while I think there smartphones aren't superior. This is why I think Samsung will hurt HTC when it comes too sales. Samsung is big, HTC isn't.

Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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strip419 said:
Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Looks like tomatoes8 is back with a ghost account.
Anyways less db's on HTC forums.

stesa said:
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Actually, if you care about HTC as a company then you should care about the announcement - it would be an understatement to say that this is the most crucial battle yet for HTC - and they've done their part by making an excellent product. So let's see.

strip419 said:
Can wait to see the look on Ur faces wen Sammy slams the 1 to an early grave....y the heck do u think they will stick to plastic....HTC using all aluminum body sure means the competition will follow suit. And u know the will fill it up with lots of extra features....if there's one thing Sammy its better @, then its marketing. Remember how we keep blasting the iphone, yet it sells so well. HTC 1 was made to get the company back on its feet financially. To these OEM its not about just making a good phone, its all about selling most. And as it stands Sammy has the upper hand, and I don't think they are ready to give up....so prepare to be blown away....LIKE IT OR NOT
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Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.

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Problem is that the S4 was surely in production before they knew HTC would be using aluminum. And believe me, I already believe that Samsung will out do the HTC One by a long shot because Samsung has always done better with marketing there phones. Im sure they will release a new version of TouchWiz with lots of new features, but the Ones features are also great. Sense 5 looks mint, compared to TouchWiz and unless Samsung follows in that more minimalist design I'll still find TouchWiz ugly. I would agree its not about maknig the better phone is its about profits. Just like every other company in the world. Samsung will always have the upper hand whether or not they are crappy or great. Just like we see with pretty much every single Apple product. They made a name for themselves, So no matter what they put out, the iSheep WILL continue to buy there overpriced, crappy products. Still, Samsung > Apple any day. Samsungs products aren't crappy but i've never been impressed by a single thing Samsung has ever done.
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If you had an upgrade what would you choose.........
My choice would be the one. I like the LCD screen found on the DNA. I have alot of faith in the 4 Ultra pixel camera. I want a phone that doesn't feel like a child's toy. The quadrant scores on the One were amazing, although I'm sure the S4 will come close. What would you choose?
FYI: all phones have ultra pixels, however there 1.1. The ones found on the One are 2.0. Just saying
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After samsungs sharade unpacked event of the galaxy s4/s3 pebble 2 with shiney stuff around the edge ..
My kids inheratance would be heading towards htc
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand

Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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ShapesBlue said:
Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
Oh and you think HTC uses plastic now? The One is all aluminum....wow, so misinformed....
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
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Well currently the htc one isn't available on my carrier. So the best phone available is the S3 and soon to be S4. I don't hate htc I just could care less to stick with them
And it's called my opinion for a reason. If you don't like it then that's your opinion
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Dude that's the truth with the batteries for sure
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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Really the iPhone is a better built phone? It's built in the same foreign countries with the same parts except for the processor. IPhones are boring useless pieces of crap
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.

I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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iPhones honestly aren't worth the price no matter how discounted they are.
While they may be built better your comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended on the apple thing.
But really I think we can all mostly agree here that android overall is better.
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You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.

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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Yea I've completely gone away from Motorola all together myself and that's a selling point for me being able to root my phone and changing it around nearly completely
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This was exactly like last year for me.
I wanted a phone with huge storage capacity/microSD capacity and long battery life/removable battery with decent specs. And QWERTY but I have given up on the last thing.
The HTC One X was released and as pretty as the White one was, it definitely was not a purchase I was willing to make and I waited for the Samsung Galaxy S3 announcement. The announcement came and Samsung gave me what I wanted. I bought the S3.
Fast forward this year. HTC One announced. Still no microSD slot but looks like decent battery life. Looks very pretty too (I still think the white One X is the best looking HTC phone though). Not bad this time around HTC but let's wait to hear from Samsung. S4 gets announced and again, they have what I want from last year.
If I was choosing again between HTC or Samsung this year: Samsung Galaxy S4 because it has what I want from last year.
Luckily I want more stuff this year which is why I'm not going to buy a S4. My S3 is lovely and I don't need to buy an S4. However, I now really want a bigger screen. This year, I'll be looking to buy a Note 3 or competitor version as long as it has a huge screen, huge capacity/microSD, huge battery.
Honestly, I don't care what company you are or even what your phone looks like (I bought the S3 for god sakes). Just give me what I want and I'd buy it. I'm also eyeing the Blackberry Q10 simply because of the QWERTY but I think my lust for a bigger screen will win out. Plus the stylus is alright...right?

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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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No, I am not saying, I am upgrading S4 from S3. But I would pick S4 over HTC One.
I will probably get Note 3. I also do not rule out possibility to get S4, if I get some cool discount.