[Q] Help me choose: EVO 3D or LG Thrill (Optimus 3D) - General Topics

I'm having a hard time deciding between these two phones and was hoping to get some opinions. There's a thread under the O3D comparing the phones but not really much in the way of opinions either way. I generally stick with a phone for a couple of years so I'd like to make an informed decision, and I don't know enough about how the specs are going to affect longevity. As near as I can tell the talking points are:
O3D:
+Faster CPU/GPU
+Dual-Channel Memory
-Android 2.2
-Resolution: 480x800
-512MB RAM
-Smaller Battery: 1500mAh
EVO 3D
+Android 2.3
+Resolution: 540x960
+Larger Battery: 1730mAh
+1GB RAM
-Slower CPU/GPU
-Single-Channel Memory
To be honest the 3D feature is not something I really care about but my son will like it and if I'm getting a new phone I may as well get something he can play with. I also don't care about photo quality but some decent gaming would be nice so my son could play with it. I realize there will eventually be an Android 2.3 ROM for the Thrill so that may not be a huge negative. I'm also concerned about whether the EVO will have as much ROM development as the Thrill and whether I should take that into account.
Opinions appreciated.

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[Q] EVO 3D

Now that the evo 3D has been revealed are u still geting the the optimus 3D ?
Hands on review http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-EVO-3D-Hands-on_id17611
Depends what phone makes it to the stores sooner, but I'd prefer the EVO judging from the specs.
960x540 resolution on HTC is the advantage imho
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EVO 3D for sure
Well I would get the evolution 3d but sadly no gsm...
So I'll be picking me up an official 3d
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Same size, same weight, but higher res screen.
CPU and GPU seems to be a lot slower, first benchmarks on prototype hardware shows that Tegra 2 is 50% faster.
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/
honestly judging from the benchmarks i would prefer the LG. Its sad to see htc lag behind with their qualcomm because they make great products. Just the build quality is amazing with htc. Ive also heard that the new qualcomm chips have signed and locked bootloaders :/. The qualcomm msm8660 and 8260 are both dualcore arm cortex a8 and the .2 overclocked compaired to other dualcores just doesnt make up for the lack of performance and power comsumption gain.
You've got to be kidding. The less than stellar benchmark results are based on 1 benchmark from a prototype? Possibly fake? Let's wait and see what the evo 3d will do.
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Joke or not, it looks slow.
Smartbench uses several 2D/3D routines to calculate an index, so it is not one benchmark, it is several ones.
May be fake, we'll see soon enough, CPU should show up in several phones soon.
Another advantage of the Evo 3D is the inter-camera distance, lenses seen to be further apart. Should bring little more depth to objects further away.
Evo 3D looks 3 mm shorther and 3 mm slimmer too. Same weight though.
The slightly bigger battery at 1700mah vs 1500mah needs testing to check the battery times. Maybe the screen needs more juice...
GSM is a big deal for me too; too bad, this is a nice Evo refresh. Also, if you're a fan of Google Voice, the Sprint network has an edge in that dept.
Here are my thoughts on the features of the LG Optimus 3D Vs. HTC Evo 3D:
OS: Like the 2x, the Optimus 3D runs Froyo. An update has been mentioned often by LG & should be released soon after the phones have gone retail. The Evo 3D has the latest update.
CPU: Up for grabs right now, but LG's TI OMAP shows alot of promise. Again, we just met the Evo 3D- still both phones are very fast.
RAM: HTC has twice the RAM @ 1 GIG. Yet, LG's 2x & the 3D are top 5 in most benches w/ only 512. Dual channel or not, I've brought this up before, maybe 512 is enough after all?
Build: HTC probably has a better build- shaped like the stellar Evo, its parts are smooth & has some weight when handled. The previews for LG's 3D & its 2x has been relatively positive. Nothing ground breaking, but conservatively simple & elegant.
Camera: Both are dual 5mp on the backside & I think 1.3mp on the front. The difference is that the Evo has a dedicated shutter button & 2x LED flashes.
UI: LG's UI overlay is rather weak compared to the Sense- but that's a two-edged sword being that so little is in fact added to LG's UI, it's not bloated w/ company widgets, apps, or questionable OS modifications. That's cool or cheap of them, hehe. The new Sense UI IMO, looks great.
Display: HTC has a winner here. LG's screen is great, though just not Samsung, HTC, Apple, "great" where their phones have continually put out awesome displays. The Evo 3D screen is slightly thinner & taller because HTC believes this aspect ratio is the proper size. Both phones are within 4.3 inch category.
Battery: The Optimus 3D has a Li-Ion 1500 mAh while the Evo 3D includes a 1730 mAh battery.
3D: The only negative words about 3D for these phones stem from the public- which do not have access to test these two devices. Which does it better? There are those that care & I hope the media makes a statement on this topic.
Extras: Both phones have HDMI ports, can record 3D in 720p & 2D in 1080p.
IMO, both phones are great devices considering they're first to jump in the 3D market. I'm looking forward to the Optimus- hopefully early spring!
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GSM is a big deal for me too; too bad, this is a nice Evo refresh. Also, if you're a fan of Google Voice, the Sprint network has an edge (EDITED LINK) in that dept.
Here are my thoughts on the features of the LG Optimus 3D Vs. HTC Evo 3D:
OS: Like the 2x, the Optimus 3D runs Froyo. An update has been mentioned often by LG & should be released soon after the phones have gone retail. The Evo 3D has the latest update.
CPU: Up for grabs right now, but LG's TI OMAP shows alot of promise. Again, we just met the Evo 3D- still both phones are very fast.
RAM: HTC has twice the RAM @ 1 GIG. Yet, LG's 2x & the 3D are top 5 in most benches w/ only 512. Dual channel or not, I've brought this up before, maybe 512 is enough after all?
Build: HTC probably has a better build- shaped like the stellar Evo, its parts are smooth & has some weight when handled. The previews for LG's 3D & its 2x has been relatively positive. Nothing ground breaking, but conservatively simple & elegant.
Camera: Both are dual 5mp on the backside & I think 1.3mp on the front. The difference is that the Evo has a dedicated shutter button & 2x LED flashes.
UI: LG's UI overlay is rather weak compared to the Sense- but that's a two-edged sword being that so little is in fact added to LG's UI, it's not bloated w/ company widgets, apps, or questionable OS modifications. That's cool or cheap of them, hehe. The new Sense UI IMO, looks great.
Display: HTC has a winner here. LG's screen is great, though just not Samsung, HTC, Apple, "great" where their phones have continually put out awesome displays. The Evo 3D screen is slightly thinner & taller because HTC believes this aspect ratio is the proper size. Both phones are within 4.3 inch category.
Battery: The Optimus 3D has a Li-Ion 1500 mAh while the Evo 3D includes a 1730 mAh battery.
3D: The only negative words about 3D for these phones stem from the public- which do not have access to test these two devices. Which does it better? There are those that care & I hope the media makes a statement on this topic.
Extras: Both phones have HDMI ports, can record 3D in 720p & 2D in 1080p.
IMO, both phones are great devices considering they're first to jump in the 3D market. I'm looking forward to the Optimus- hopefully early spring!
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Great comparison! You have to remember something though... all the new htc phones have signed and locked bootloaders.. the evo 3d might come with 2.3 from the get go but the optimus 3d (thrill) will probably have 2.3 custom roms ready to go before its US release because devs in UK. And something else to remember.. rooted and custom rom available phones get updates first. Why the users on evo 3d are waiting for htc to send out a sense based 2.4, people on optimus 3d will already have a stock version custom rom.
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Yes, nice comparison fen_nyc!
I'm looking forward to the Optimus 3D, mostly because I have no choice
There's no AWS 3G of the Evo 3D
sta1cs said:
I'm looking forward to the Optimus 3D, mostly because I have no choice
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I don't understand why these companies don't make their phones compatible on as many carriers as possible, would it hurt htc to make another evo3d that has the same 3g bands as the optimus 3d and would instantly work on att/tmo? I love what samsung did with the original galaxy s line, every single carrier had these phones.
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Great comparison! You have to remember something though... all the new htc phones have signed and locked bootloaders.. the evo 3d might come with 2.3 from the get go but the optimus 3d (thrill) will probably have 2.3 custom roms ready to go before its US release because devs in UK. And something else to remember.. rooted and custom rom available phones get updates first. Why the users on evo 3d are waiting for htc to send out a sense based 2.4, people on optimus 3d will already have a stock version custom rom.
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All htc phones have signed updates and locked bootloaders... Afaik nothing is new, just some blogs picked it up thinking there was something special about it.
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peachpuff said:
I don't understand why these companies don't make their phones compatible on as many carriers as possible, would it hurt htc to make another evo3d that has the same 3g bands as the optimus 3d and would instantly work on att/tmo? I love what samsung did with the original galaxy s line, every single carrier had these phones.
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It definitely wouldn't hurt them in terms of customer appreciation or choice but I believe it is a but more complex than that, HTC may have signed some exclusivity deals with Sprint because I have yet to see the device announced for other carriers (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes it's disappointing to see they did that even though it's just business, I will second guess ever buying from them anymore especially after they made me pay for shipping on the warranty RMA or the fact that the phone broke out of nowhere.
fen_nyc said:
GSM is a big deal for me too; too bad, this is a nice Evo refresh. Also, if you're a fan of Google Voice, the Sprint network has an edge in that dept.
Here are my thoughts on the features of the LG Optimus 3D Vs. HTC Evo 3D:
OS: Like the 2x, the Optimus 3D runs Froyo. An update has been mentioned often by LG & should be released soon after the phones have gone retail. The Evo 3D has the latest update.
CPU: Up for grabs right now, but LG's TI OMAP shows alot of promise. Again, we just met the Evo 3D- still both phones are very fast.
RAM: HTC has twice the RAM @ 1 GIG. Yet, LG's 2x & the 3D are top 5 in most benches w/ only 512. Dual channel or not, I've brought this up before, maybe 512 is enough after all?
Build: HTC probably has a better build- shaped like the stellar Evo, its parts are smooth & has some weight when handled. The previews for LG's 3D & its 2x has been relatively positive. Nothing ground breaking, but conservatively simple & elegant.
Camera: Both are dual 5mp on the backside & I think 1.3mp on the front. The difference is that the Evo has a dedicated shutter button & 2x LED flashes.
UI: LG's UI overlay is rather weak compared to the Sense- but that's a two-edged sword being that so little is in fact added to LG's UI, it's not bloated w/ company widgets, apps, or questionable OS modifications. That's cool or cheap of them, hehe. The new Sense UI IMO, looks great.
Display: HTC has a winner here. LG's screen is great, though just not Samsung, HTC, Apple, "great" where their phones have continually put out awesome displays. The Evo 3D screen is slightly thinner & taller because HTC believes this aspect ratio is the proper size. Both phones are within 4.3 inch category.
Battery: The Optimus 3D has a Li-Ion 1500 mAh while the Evo 3D includes a 1730 mAh battery.
3D: The only negative words about 3D for these phones stem from the public- which do not have access to test these two devices. Which does it better? There are those that care & I hope the media makes a statement on this topic.
Extras: Both phones have HDMI ports, can record 3D in 720p & 2D in 1080p.
IMO, both phones are great devices considering they're first to jump in the 3D market. I'm looking forward to the Optimus- hopefully early spring!
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good write-up.
I think the only decision for me is to either choose the optimus 3d for the dual channel memory, or the evo 3d for the qhd display.
Signed bootloader is a no-go, even more if the specs are fantastic like this. Imagine a monster like the EVO 3D and HTC stops updating it after 6 months. Horrible.
zedklind said:
...but the optimus 3d (thrill) will probably have 2.3 custom roms ready to go before its US release because devs in UK.
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How will these Roms work w/ the Evo's or the Optimus' 3D software/hardware? It's a new window for developers & it's unclear what the level of progress will be like. Again, these are the only 2 devices set to effectively be released this year & if you're the minority, & furthermore knowing how the general public are split on the concept of 3D, the community may not adopt to these phones as quickly as we'll like.
sta1cs said:
Yes, nice comparison fen_nyc!
I'm looking forward to the Optimus 3D, mostly because I have no choice
There's no AWS 3G of the Evo 3D
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Thanks, I have to say though, LG's 3D is no slouch. I know, I know that HTC has a more favorable release history w/ their devices- but look up some videos of the Optimus 3D in action. The screen is very tech worthy. The outer body is nicely rugged to stabilize camera usage & I forgot to mention, that while it lacks a shutter button that's present on the Evo, there is a cool "3D" button on the side of the phone which opens up LG's neat 3D carousel menu. It's very functional!
peachpuff said:
I don't understand why these companies don't make their phones compatible on as many carriers as possible, would it hurt htc to make another evo3d that has the same 3g bands as the optimus 3d and would instantly work on att/tmo? I love what samsung did with the original galaxy s line, every single carrier had these phones.
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It all comes down to exclusivity & Sprint has the Evo line locked down. If I recall, upon the official unveiling of the Incredible, it was considered by the press to be the Evo's little brother now in Verizon's camp- it’s certainly different, but the general design (hardware & Sense UI) is similar.
Now a few notable downsides for 3D phones:
1. Power Draw: Battery life should be an issue. For instance, the Optimus G2X & the 3D both are powered at 1500 mAh. Yet comparing normal usage through 3D gaming & viewing 3D videos Vs. that of the G2X... you really need to wonder.
2. Photo & Video Enthusiasts: If video recording & capturing stills is more of a passion to you than the addition of a 3D "experience" on a smart phone; in terms of a 1-2 year investment, this may not be the product for you. Camera lens tech on 3D phones will never be on par or outpace regular 2D phones- I just don't see it happening. A 5MP lens on each the Evo & the Optimus Vs. the 8MP lens mounted on the G2X & an 8.1MP listed on the soon to be released Sony Arc & well, the trend is clear...
3. Cost: It's not about being an early adopter anymore. 3D inclusion is now recognized as an "extra," like thumbing in a surround-sound speaker option for a newly purchased car. Expect anywhere from $100-$200 markup compared to a similarly spec'ed phone minus the 3D.
4. Application Support: How will developers respond? Will there be simultaneously launches for application & videos? A price bump for 3D content...? Oh, that I'm quite sure of...
Regarding cost: You can already preorder the O3D at Amazon.de, and the recommended retail price is just 50€ above the 2x/Speed, and the 3D has better build quality, OMAP4, Dual Channel RAM and 4.3" screen.
george232 said:
Regarding cost: You can already preorder the O3D at Amazon.de, and the recommended retail price is just 50€ above the 2x/Speed, and the 3D has better build quality, OMAP4, Dual Channel RAM and 4.3" screen.
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Right about that; however, I recall when these phones were previewed after MWC, retailers like Expansys listed a difference of over $100... now it's down to $70. If it remains this low upon US retail release, then T-Mo/At&t customers will have something to cheer about this spring!

[Q]Torn between Phones

Hi all,
Since the Evo 3D was announced I was determined to get it but just near the launch i hear they removed 1080P video recording :S which is sh!t if you ask me. Now you know I love technical features and im pretty sure the whole 3D pictures and videos thing is a bit of a gimmick. Ive seen 3d Movies in the cinema and all it does is give you a very slight feeling of depth in a 2d picture. Nothing like how they advertise in IMax where it looks like someones coming out the screen lol. So if thats the capabilities of IMax what will it be for this tiny HTC phone?
I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S and I love it. The camera is good the features, the power and especially the Super Amoled screen. Its gorgeous.
Im sure many have pointed out before that the touchWiz interface is absolutely boring. There is no sense of design or thought in it. Im sure people just sat around and decided "well lets make some icons and then stick it in an iPhone-like menu". On the other hand HTC give a higher resolution AND the amazing HTC Sense 3.0 interface. It is absolutely lovely. I had an HTC before (TyTN) and when i changed the crappy windows UI for the Sense UI it was well worth all the hassle of learning to flash roms and so forth.
So now I present you a summary:
Samsung Galaxy S 2 Pros - 8MP camera, Full HD Recording, Super Amoled Plus, better benchmark results than the Evo 3d
Samsung Galaxy S 2 Cons - No 3D (?), Annoying TouchWiz interface, Same old design (of the phone)
Evo 3D Pros - 3D Cameras (?), Dual LED, Nice HTC Sense Interface, HTC Speaker is always LOUD, downright sexay lookin
Evo 3D cons - no 1080P Recording!!, Alot less powerful than the galaxy s 2, no amoled
So what do you guys think i should do? any opinions?
I'd go with the sgs2 just for the raw power then put a sense rom on it....many of them are great. But at the same time, if you are looking at an evo 3d that means you are on sprint like me, and we dont have sgs2 yet. It depends on if you want to wait or not. Personally, because of the power an sleekness i believe that the sgs2 is more future proof. Or you could go the same route as me and just wait for the Nexus 3....if it ever gets announced
See the thing is im in the middle east im not on sprint and the evo 3d has not been released here yet
tell me more about the sense roms is there one for the galaxy s i9000? And is there already one for the gs2? If there is something like that for the gs2 then i will take that although i do think the evo 3d has better design the gs2 could have used more buttons at the front so what about these roms?
tmobile g2x vs the sensation
anyone has any experience with these phones
and which do you prefer and why
sorry is starting a new thread and forgot to go back to general
Evo's camera is really messed, get the sgs2, it'a much better phone under every other aspect as well imho. 3d feature is bull and will bore you after a day i bet...
how bad exactly are we talking? and i had a look for the htc sense rom on galaxy s but its still in development... i have to say i really really like the htc sense UI and the last htc i had has a pretty nice camera and that was only 2MP
Edit:
I was browsing around the reviews and i saw a few clips of Evo 3D recording... Was disappointed that such quality can come from an expensive high end 2011 phone. i mean i think the original galaxy S has better quality from its 5MP camera.
So instead of constantly baiting myself with reviews about Evo 3D and comparisons (which mostly turn out in GS2's favour anyway) I thought id look at a GS2 review.
I gotta say its amazing, its absolutely blazingly fast. I change my opinion there is no more competition the GS2 is way better Why? because:
Evo 3D has worse quality than what i originally thought
The Evo 3D scores ~1900 on benchmarks (quadrant)
My Galaxy S scores 1600 on benchmark after darkys rom so why should i shell out so much cash for 300 benchmark points??
Some people said Evo 3D is still new and I should wait for some optimizations. Taking this into consideration it occured to me that even if the Evo 3D manages to hit 2800 (and i guarantee there is only so much optimizing you can do that it will not cross 2800) it still wont be as powerful as a SGS 2.
Think of it in terms of cars, I have a V6 and i can race quite a few V6s on the roads. Now if i were to modify my car i can easily beat a V8. But what if the V8 gets modified too? So as such wait till darkys crew gets their hands on the SGS 2. I mean they added about 700 benchmark points on my i9000! It just shows the durability of the SGS series to allow a huge optimization and customization. For example the headphones volume was not loud lo and behold there came the Voodoo kernel app to give a boost. Now you tell me, if a phone allows you to fix every single niggle that u hate about it is that not a perfect phone?
Im not saying the Evo 3D is bad but the galaxy S 2 really kicks its ass in terms of speed.
Now about the UI:
Sure HTC sense is nice but I never actually saw the TW 4.0 UI up close. After watching a number of reviews my conclusion is, its not bad at all! Seriously, check it out. Its got 3D rendering, its got folders in its menu. It no longer looks like a cheap iPhone clone! It is really really slick. Its got a video editor a native chat application and FULL 1080p recording with flash. I was never too concerend about camera quality because im not much of a photographer but man oh man can you see the difference. As for the screens? the AmoLed doesnt even give the Super LCD of the Evo a chance!
Ive decided, SGS 2 it is!

Motorola ATRIX 4G or Lg Thrill 4G?

Kindly help me to choose from ATRIX or Thrill
i have ARIX but i got an exchange deal with Thrill + Rs.1500($30) INR
From all specs i understand Thrill is overall better phone but
atrix has 1GB ram where 512 in thrill(but still its fast)
thrill has very poor life where atrix has 2000 mah battery.
atrix has better developer support.
thrill has 4.3" 3D screen
What i am concerned is:
1. if thrill play 1080p mkv download from net without convert
2. Games compatibility with thrill
3. video Gtalk
what you people wants to suggest?
I was faced the exact same decision a couple of months ago and went with the Atrix.
So far pretty happy with my decision.
The Atrix has Gingerbread went the Thrill is currently on FroYo (wtf?). Plus the Atrix has some pretty cool ROMs (CM7 with all hardware working excluding webtop, Darkside Blur Based ROM which has HDMI Mirroring along with the option for Webtop over HDMI, couple of other cool ones but not that many which are still being supported. Not sure about the Thrill's community as I do not have a Thrill). Though the Thrill might be the first to get an ICS ROM due to the OMAP processor (Atrix can't get it until the Tegra ICS drivers are released) but I am not 100% sure about that (hoping Moto releases them soon after the Xoom is updated but not sure if they would be the same as tablets).
Thrill probably has the better display due to the Atrix's PenTile but it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be (it only looks bad to me alongside a phone of similar PPI which isn't PenTile). But I am not really a display expert.
And Motorola quality in general is far superior to LG (at least based on previous experiences with LG as well as friends with LG devices).
Call quality on the Atrix is outstanding (it is still a phone and Moto has a very rich history in the area of making phones), GPS is a CHAMP (locks in quickly and is accurate), signal strength seems to be strong throughout my area (though that is probably more carrier related than hardware). The fingerprint sensor is a cool thing to have and works great (I wish more phones had this).
Not sure which one has a better camera, the Atrix's is not great imo but not terrible either (then again, I never expect much from phone cameras. The quality on the front camera is terrible so if you videoconference, it might not be the best option. Thrill has a 1.3MP front camera and should be a superior option for that).
3D seems like a gimmick to me so I can't comment on that. It did look cool but I don't see any real uses.
I've had both a the Atrix and Thrill, I would stick with the Atrix. The Thrill to me was bigger and thicker it ran ok on Froyo but it got quite hot a lot of the time, also the 3D is a gimmick I played with it in the beginning when I had the phone but towards the end of my time with it I didn't even bother to play anything in 3D. Over all the OS does lag its really noticeable when installing apps even though I was on the leaked GB from the O3D and the battery life is very poor I couldn't even make it through a day with moderate use without charging and that was a big deal breaker for me. Development for the phone was OK at the time I had it no where near where its brother the 2x has, but I've upgraded to the Skyrocket now and I am quite happy with that, hopes that helps you
HustlinDaily said:
I was faced the exact same decision a couple of months ago and went with the Atrix.
So far pretty happy with my decision.
The Atrix has Gingerbread went the Thrill is currently on FroYo (wtf?). Plus the Atrix has some pretty cool ROMs (CM7 with all hardware working excluding webtop, Darkside Blur Based ROM which has HDMI Mirroring along with the option for Webtop over HDMI, couple of other cool ones but not that many which are still being supported. Not sure about the Thrill's community as I do not have a Thrill). Though the Thrill might be the first to get an ICS ROM due to the OMAP processor (Atrix can't get it until the Tegra ICS drivers are released) but I am not 100% sure about that (hoping Moto releases them soon after the Xoom is updated but not sure if they would be the same as tablets).
Thrill probably has the better display due to the Atrix's PenTile but it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be (it only looks bad to me alongside a phone of similar PPI which isn't PenTile). But I am not really a display expert.
And Motorola quality in general is far superior to LG (at least based on previous experiences with LG as well as friends with LG devices).
Call quality on the Atrix is outstanding (it is still a phone and Moto has a very rich history in the area of making phones), GPS is a CHAMP (locks in quickly and is accurate), signal strength seems to be strong throughout my area (though that is probably more carrier related than hardware). The fingerprint sensor is a cool thing to have and works great (I wish more phones had this).
Not sure which one has a better camera, the Atrix's is not great imo but not terrible either (then again, I never expect much from phone cameras. The quality on the front camera is terrible so if you videoconference, it might not be the best option. Thrill has a 1.3MP front camera and should be a superior option for that).
3D seems like a gimmick to me so I can't comment on that. It did look cool but I don't see any real uses.
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You are absolutely right about our phone bro.
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I've had both a the Atrix and Thrill, I would stick with the Atrix. The Thrill to me was bigger and thicker it ran ok on Froyo but it got quite hot a lot of the time, also the 3D is a gimmick I played with it in the beginning when I had the phone but towards the end of my time with it I didn't even bother to play anything in 3D. Over all the OS does lag its really noticeable when installing apps even though I was on the leaked GB from the O3D and the battery life is very poor I couldn't even make it through a day with moderate use without charging and that was a big deal breaker for me. Development for the phone was OK at the time I had it no where near where its brother the 2x has, but I've upgraded to the Skyrocket now and I am quite happy with that, hopes that helps you
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O3D 3D effect vs EVO 3D's?

Between the EVO 3D and the Optimus 3D/LG Thrill, which has the better 3D quality?
I'm not talking about 3D camera quality, I'm talking purely about how the 3D looks on the screen. I've probably seen an equal amount of answers going for one or the other, so I figured I'd go and ask specifically. Yes, I realize asking here I'll probably get a biased answer, but I'm hoping that somebody here has used an EVO 3D for more than a few seconds and can comment.
Reason I ask is because I'm basically deciding between getting a $600+ Galaxy Note and a ~$200 EVO 3D (one with a bad ESN) or a $300-$400 Optimus 3D and some 7" tablet down the line. If the difference isn't that huge, then I'd probably rather go for the first option partially since Otterbox makes cases for the EVO 3D.
okay. so if you are playing games in 3d or watching movies in 3d then both devices are gonna look equally great. the difference is if you are viewing images or videos you have taken with either device. in this case the lg optimus 3d will look much better... why? because the cameras have a greater distance apart between them then the evo 3d. the closer it is to the distance our eyes are actually apart the better the effect and the easier on the eyes.
Sent from my LG Thrill 4G...
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okay. so if you are playing games in 3d or watching movies in 3d then both devices are gonna look equally great. the difference is if you are viewing images or videos you have taken with either device. in this case the lg optimus 3d will look much better... why? because the cameras have a greater distance apart between them then the evo 3d. the closer it is to the distance our eyes are actually apart the better the effect and the easier on the eyes.
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So what you're saying is that the 3D effect is basically the same - as in, watching the same 3D movie on each phone, there wouldn't be much of a difference? Again, I'm not talking about 3D camera quality (I'll be getting a Fuji W3 for that, which I know far outclasses either device), I'm mainly concerned about the actual 3D screen quality/effect.
Viewing 3D video & photo on on both are most the same (using other media files). But if u r taking video or photo from both devices and viewing together, O3D will be much better as Camera hardware were installed differently.
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veasna.kelly said:
Viewing 3D video & photo on on both are most the same (using other media files). But if u r taking video or photo from both devices and viewing together, O3D will be much better as Camera hardware were installed differently.
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Alright, thanks for the info.
So another related question - other than the better 3D camera, better 3D apps (like the specific 3D Youtube app), and better specs, is there anything else the O3D has over the Evo 3D? And speaking of specs, is there anything other than high-end gaming that the O3D's better CPU/RAM will do noticeably better than the Evo 3D? Don't try and sell me that it'll be smoother, because my 800Mhz single-core G2 is pretty smooth.
I'm asking because may be considering another phone instead of the Note (the Nokia N9), and figure I should know before I jump on the Evo 3D based mostly on price.
The O3D has a 2D-3D video/image/game converter. Evo3D does not to my knowledge. It is quite nice being able to take a video file that is not 3D and converting it on the fly. Instead of loading actual 3D video files, just use any ol' vid file. Even downloaded web vids. There is also the ability to take a game like Dead Space and play it in 3D. Or Angry Birds and many others. I am not knocking Evo in any way. LG has been engineering their 3D equipment longer than other manufacturers. They have just been in the game longer than htc (who has only one 3D device) and they don't use it on just mobile applications. IMHO LG wins based on its extra features which will come in handy later even if you don't plan on it until later. Hope I helped. ;-)
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The O3D has a 2D-3D video/image/game converter. Evo3D does not to my knowledge. It is quite nice being able to take a video file that is not 3D and converting it on the fly. Instead of loading actual 3D video files, just use any ol' vid file. Even downloaded web vids. There is also the ability to take a game like Dead Space and play it in 3D. Or Angry Birds and many others. I am not knocking Evo in any way. LG has been engineering their 3D equipment longer than other manufacturers. They have just been in the game longer than htc (who has only one 3D device) and they don't use it on just mobile applications. IMHO LG wins based on its extra features which will come in handy later even if you don't plan on it until later. Hope I helped. ;-)
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Eh, I've seen enough 3D movies to decide that unless it's made in 3D (unlike some 2D movies nowadays that tack on 3D for a cash-in) then I'd rather not bother, and same goes for gaming (had nVidia 3D Vision for a few months and played enough games to see that it's basically hit-or-miss as to whether the 3D effect is worth the inevitable headache I'll get after using 3D for more than 2-3 hours consecutively).
I guess it'll mostly come down to price when I end up buying either a month or so from now - if the O3D isn't much more than $100 more (if even that) then I'll go and buy it, and get the Evo 3D otherwise.
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Eh, I've seen enough 3D movies to decide that unless it's made in 3D (unlike some 2D movies nowadays that tack on 3D for a cash-in) then I'd rather not bother, and same goes for gaming (had nVidia 3D Vision for a few months and played enough games to see that it's basically hit-or-miss as to whether the 3D effect is worth the inevitable headache I'll get after using 3D for more than 2-3 hours consecutively).
I guess it'll mostly come down to price when I end up buying either a month or so from now - if the O3D isn't much more than $100 more (if even that) then I'll go and buy it, and get the Evo 3D otherwise.
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I have 3D Vision on my PC and I know about the hit-or-miss thing with some games in 3D. However this doesn't occur with the O3D, every game (if it runs at all in 3D) will look very good with the 3D feature, you will just have to worry about lower framerates on some graphically intensive games. It also has settings to change the 3D effect to your liking. The 3D technology used in the O3D is completely different from Nvidia 3D Vision, as it doesn't use active shutter glasses that can cause headaches from extended use.
If you aren't so concerned about performance, then why consider the Galaxy Note? The O3D is pretty close to the Samsung Galaxy S II in terms of performance according to most benchmarks.
As for Evo 3D vs Optimus 3D, I have not used the Evo 3D but I know the Optimus has better 3D software (Game Converter, Youtube 3D App, Video/Photo Playback/Editing), combined with more powerful hardware.
If you want a case similar to the Otterbox for the O3D, there's the Ballistic SG. I use it and can attest to it's quality.
Another note, I have seen some (used) Optimus 3D go for less than $300 on eBay...the Thrill 4G is even cheaper (if you don't need the T-Mobile USA band)
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I have 3D Vision on my PC and I know about the hit-or-miss thing with some games in 3D. However this doesn't occur with the O3D, every game (if it runs at all in 3D) will look very good with the 3D feature, you will just have to worry about lower framerates on some graphically intensive games. It also has settings to change the 3D effect to your liking. The 3D technology used in the O3D is completely different from Nvidia 3D Vision, as it doesn't use active shutter glasses that can cause headaches from extended use.
If you aren't so concerned about performance, then why consider the Galaxy Note? The O3D is pretty close to the Samsung Galaxy S II in terms of performance according to most benchmarks.
As for Evo 3D vs Optimus 3D, I have not used the Evo 3D but I know the Optimus has better 3D software (Game Converter, Youtube 3D App, Video/Photo Playback/Editing), combined with more powerful hardware.
If you want a case similar to the Otterbox for the O3D, there's the Ballistic SG. I use it and can attest to it's quality.
Another note, I have seen some (used) Optimus 3D go for less than $300 on eBay...
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Hmm, that definitely makes me rethink it then, if it really is that good - although I can't say I'm that interested in mobile gaming (compared to watching videos in 3D, at least). I'm mostly interested in performance because one thing my G2 can't do well is play high-res videos.
And I'm interested in the Note for a few reasons, such as the stylus, high screen resolution and quality, and the actual size of it (I'd use a 7" tablet as a phone if I could).
The main reason I wouldn't want to use the O3D as my phone is because the main uses out of it - 3D videos and gaming on the side - would tax the battery a bit; that's why I'm also considering the Nokia N9 as my next phone (for the nice unibody construction, long battery life, smooth/sleek/simple OS, etc.), since then I wouldn't have two similarly sized Android devices with the primary differences being that one makes phone calls and the other does 3D.
Do they make any decent extended batteries for the O3D, particularly ones compatible with any cases? A nice one might make me just go for the O3D alone...
And I'm looking at the O3D over the Thrill particularly for the better official updates and dev community, and the fact that I simply can't buy a device without original packaging/accessories (kinda OCD about that) brings up the price to $350+ for me.
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Hmm, that definitely makes me rethink it then, if it really is that good - although I can't say I'm that interested in mobile gaming (compared to watching videos in 3D, at least). I'm mostly interested in performance because one thing my G2 can't do well is play high-res videos.
And I'm interested in the Note for a few reasons, such as the stylus, high screen resolution and quality, and the actual size of it (I'd use a 7" tablet as a phone if I could).
The main reason I wouldn't want to use the O3D as my phone is because the main uses out of it - 3D videos and gaming on the side - would tax the battery a bit; that's why I'm also considering the Nokia N9 as my next phone (for the nice unibody construction, long battery life, smooth/sleek/simple OS, etc.), since then I wouldn't have two similarly sized Android devices with the primary differences being that one makes phone calls and the other does 3D.
Do they make any decent extended batteries for the O3D, particularly ones compatible with any cases? A nice one might make me just go for the O3D alone...
And I'm looking at the O3D over the Thrill particularly for the better official updates and dev community, and the fact that I simply can't buy a device without original packaging/accessories (kinda OCD about that) brings up the price to $350+ for me.
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mugen 3400mah with case for o3d ranging from 65-95 usd depending on where you find it. makes your phone last at least 50% more. google it and you will see.Also some japanese 2430mah gold battery that some people say is fake but for my friend it has worked great giving him round 25% more juice and this one is slim standard size so no need for cases...
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mugen 3400mah with case for o3d ranging from 65-95 usd depending on where you find it. makes your phone last at least 50% more. google it and you will see.Also some japanese 2430mah gold battery that some people say is fake but for my friend it has worked great giving him round 25% more juice and this one is slim standard size so no need for cases...
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Managed to find it (it's 3200mAh apparently), but I can't find the case - unless you mean the battery door it comes with. I'm wondering if there's a case that fits with that extended battery door.
In any case, I'm really tempted to get one with that battery now - thanks for the info.
EDIT: Two more question, actually:
-Does the stock Gingerbread update include notification power toggles (as in, pulling down the notification bar and being able to toggle Wifi, 3G, etc.) or is that something in custom ROMs?
-Are there any major problems with the stock ROM? I don't want to deal with the instability of custom ROMs or losing 3D or Bluetooth or something
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Managed to find it (it's 3200mAh apparently), but I can't find the case - unless you mean the battery door it comes with. I'm wondering if there's a case that fits with that extended battery door.
In any case, I'm really tempted to get one with that battery now - thanks for the info.
EDIT: Two more question, actually:
-Does the stock Gingerbread update include notification power toggles (as in, pulling down the notification bar and being able to toggle Wifi, 3G, etc.) or is that something in custom ROMs?
-Are there any major problems with the stock ROM? I don't want to deal with the instability of custom ROMs or losing 3D or Bluetooth or something
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The phone has notification power toggles ever since first froyo version and yes they are here in gb as well. No major bugs in gb stock. Some people report wifi and network problems (ghostcalls etc) but given that they have been reportin it since froyo versions I guess it something else going on.I have never had any problems at all neither on froyo nor on gb. Phone is really smooth and works as it is supposed to. Battery drains within normal rates for dualcore phone with a 4.2inch screen and in anyway much more resilient than sgsII (which i used to have for 3 weeks or so...)

[Q] HTC Incredible S or LG Optimus 2x?

Hi there, i want to buy a new phone and im having a hard time picking between the HTC Incredible S and the LG Optimus 2x.
My first android phone was the HTC Desire :
I loved it! was a very nice phone and i am a fan of HTC , loved Sense UI, loved the screen and everything. Really enjoyed flashing custom roms on it thanks to this site! i spent most of my time changing roms every 2-3 weeks lol (very friendly in that matter)
then i sticked to the MIUI rom towards the end
After a while i got fed up of this phone.
My second android phone was a Samsung galaxy S I9000:
This phone was notably faster and smoother than the HTC Desire! the screen was VERY nice, bigger, clearer sharper, more vibrant and despite it's size, it was still light and pocket friendly
the HD video was smoother than the Desire's one (no lag).
Customized it quite a bit but the phone didn't seem to like the custom roms as much as the HTC Desire did (MIUI would have problems like when i call someone, the other person can't hear me; when i put other roms they would work for a week and then start slowing down...) and didn't have much of a problem with it, battery life up to 3 days!!! until it fell from the 3rd floor and the LCD screen broke lol fml
I'm taking this opportunity to change phones and am thinking of these two
Galaxy S II is too expensive here and i can't afford any other phones atm.
I like the Incredible S because it's a much better version of the Desire which i fell in love with, it has a newer sense version and a lot more to offer (8mp camera etc etc). But im afraid i might get fed up of the sense again like i did for the desire... i can always change roms but i heard it's harder to do with this phone.
The LG optimus 2x also looks appealing because of it's dual core processor and 1080p video shooting ( which i heard lags quite a bit ).
The software is definitely a turn off and seems laggy... but i am hoping to fix that once i put a custom rom.
What are your insights about this? It would definitely help me a lot!
Oh and Battery life is also another important factor. I managed to pull almost 3 days most of the time with my I9000 with some tweaking. (no 3g network in Bangladesh).
Hey Dude KaFrEEkAbOom Here
Here are few reasons why you should Consider About Incredible s
1. Wifi hotspot
Share your phone's Internet connection with wifi devices
2.Bluetooth
2,1
3.Average speed max data speeds
HSDPA (14,4 mbps)
4.Vivid screen
Super LCD
5.Long talk time
9,6 hours
6.Average weight
136 g
Also Here are the Disadvantages of Incredible S
1. Poor video recording, 720p footage is pretty jerky
2. Uninspiring audio quality
And Also there are lot of bugs found on this device
Such like Camera issues,And there Was WCDMA issue, Siganal
I think this is a buggy device
Here are few reasons why you should Consider About LG Optimus 2x
1.Multiple processor cores
Dual core
2.Video output
Display pictures and video on TVs or other devices
3.Full HD
1080p
4.Lots of internal storage
7,8 GB
5.Fast download speed
7,34 mbps
6.Average standby time
16,7 days
7.Thin
11 mm
8.Average battery capacity
1 500 mAh
9.Average size
63x123x10 mm
10.Average latency
83 ms
11.Average web browser performance
1 253 ms
Here Are Disadvantages of 2x
No Camera Button
Anyway Optimus 2x have bugs too
Such like random device shut off's
handset got warmed while charging that those aren't affect on every handset
So I think You should Buy LG Optimus 2x Instead of Incredible S(Incredible BUggy )
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I agree, go for the 2x
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