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[Q] Best AT&T WP7 or are any new coming out

Hello, I am currently a Samsung Captivate user (which would suck without the developers here on XDA and the current ROM's), and I am looking to get a WP7 for my wife. I am very familiar with the OS and the SDK, but know nothing of the newer hardware available.
I was wondering what the general consensus was of the best available AT&T WP7 and if there would be any new phones in the next month or 2 expected so we should wait on getting this.
Also will any have a front camera for Skype and video calling.

most popular from AT&T in terms of windows phone is the Samsung Focus.
no word at present of any new hardware, but the mobile world congress is being held 14th-17th feb, which may or may not reveal more handsets (most probably not many if any).
and at present, there are no windows phones with front facing camera, and noone knows for sure when this will come about. and adding to that, skype have said that they have no plans for supporting windows phone.

The Gate Keeper said:
no word at present of any new hardware, but the mobile world congress is being held 14th-17th feb, which may or may not reveal more handsets (most probably not many if any).
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Samsung has hinted heavily that they'll have a 4G WP7 phone at MWC. Not sure if 4G means LTE, WiMax, or HSPA+ though.

Focus
When I was visiting the ATT store as part of my research before buying a WP7 phone, I was told that the Focus, then the Surround, were the most popular WP7 phones and in fact the Focus was the #2 selling phone overall.

PG2G said:
Samsung has hinted heavily that they'll have a 4G WP7 phone at MWC. Not sure if 4G means LTE, WiMax, or HSPA+ though.
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Verizon is LTE, Sprint is WiMax. No gsm carriers in the states have rolled out 4g yet, I don't think. AT&T will definitely be LTE, but it won't be online untill mid 2010, I believe, according to them.

PG2G said:
Samsung has hinted heavily that they'll have a 4G WP7 phone at MWC. Not sure if 4G means LTE, WiMax, or HSPA+ though.
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Hopefully all
wspaw said:
Verizon is LTE, Sprint is WiMax. No gsm carriers in the states have rolled out 4g yet, I don't think. AT&T will definitely be LTE, but it won't be online untill mid 2010, I believe, according to them.
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If you go by the original definition, LTE and WiMax are NOT 4G. And if you go by the newer definition, HSPA+ is 4G... I don't know why people shaft T-Mobile in their 4G conversations when they have the most consistent and technically fastest 4G service in the US.
That being said, I do hope a HSPA+ T-Mobile WP7 is coming soon.

FiyaFleye said:
That being said, I do hope a HSPA+ T-Mobile WP7 is coming soon.
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The SoC that they are rumored to add support for in the near future is the same as the G2 I believe, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's what is coming. AT&T also has HSPA+ now too though, of course.

I wasn't even aware that ATT had HSPA, afaik they were going to be rolling out LTE this year, while T-Mobile increased they HSPA+ to 42mbps...

FiyaFleye said:
I wasn't even aware that ATT had HSPA, afaik they were going to be rolling out LTE this year, while T-Mobile increased they HSPA+ to 42mbps...
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At CES AT&T said HSPA+ has already been deployed and LTE will be coming second half of the year.

PG2G said:
At CES AT&T said HSPA+ has already been deployed and LTE will be coming second half of the year.
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wow, good for them, finally participating lol
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yet AT&T's network couldn't handle the load once again at CES, with engadget reporting hours of unable to make a call or use data. Until AT&T expands their bandwith to handle the traffic flow, I don't care what their theoretical speeds are.

[Q] AT&T Turns off 3G Stunt

So there is millions of AT&T crap network without 3G service across the US. Does anyone feel like I do in the sense that AT&T is doing this as a stunt to the government to show how crappy their network is and why they need to dismantle the beautiful creation TMO created with HSPA+. Its sad the AT&T has to stoop so low to get what they want.

No because each run off of different 3g technologies ...plus at&t is going lte for their 4g
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laker666 said:
No because each run off of different 3g technologies ...plus at&t is going lte for their 4g
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i disagree both AT&T are both GSM the only difference is the frequency they operate on. AT&T will dismantle TMO HSPA+ for their "LTE" rollout. of course raise prices.

AT&T didn't storm Deutsche Telekom's offices with guns to get them to agree to sell T-Mobile U.S. Deutsche Telekom is in a world of financial hurt and needs the $39B to reinvest in what's left once T-Mobile's gone. In fact, they're giving back 1/3 of the $39B to shareholders after closing to compensate for their ****ty financial performance.
T-Mobile U.S. has the lowest yield per pre-paid customer of all four carriers, the highest attrition rate, the highest bad debt write-off, and the lowest margins. That all adds up to less money to invest in new products and services in a highly competitive environment. None of this is sustainable for a public company that answers to shareholders. So if it wasn't AT&T, it would be Sprint or private equity (which means slash and burn). Fat, dumb, and happy wasn't ever really an option.

Let your voice be heard. Go to the FCC website, and post your comment about the merger. fjallfoss dot fcc dot gov/ecfs/hotdocket/list proceeding number 11-65.

@flack0, they have different radios, hence the reason a T-Mobile phone will not run at&TS 3g and an at&t phone won't run tmobiles 3g
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I don't know where you get your facts, but DT is NOT in a world of financial hurt.
They are, however, looking to offload debt that they can't justify.
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Unless you have a G2x with unlocked AT&T frequencies or the other high end phones that Tmobile is coming out with that supports both Tmobile and AT&T 3G frequencies.
Tmobile is pretty confident that the merger is going to go through and is releasing some of their high end phones with dual support

Those rumors about the g2x having both at&t and T-Mobile 3g/4g bands have been long proven to be false...same with the sensation ....to my knowledge there isn't a phone out as of yet that supports both. Please correct me if I'm wrong ...and if you unlock this phone to at&t it will work, but only on edge and wifi
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laker666 said:
Those rumors about the g2x having both at&t and T-Mobile 3g/4g bands have been long proven to be false...same with the sensation ....to my knowledge there isn't a phone out as of yet that supports both. Please correct me if I'm wrong ...and if you unlock this phone to at&t it will work, but only on edge and wifi
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It has the hardware but not the software, YET.
FYI, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139849

flak0 said:
So there is millions of AT&T crap network without 3G service across the US. Does anyone feel like I do in the sense that AT&T is doing this as a stunt to the government to show how crappy their network is and why they need to dismantle the beautiful creation TMO created with HSPA+. Its sad the AT&T has to stoop so low to get what they want.
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ATT gave half a billion dollars to democrat lawmakers to ensure the deal will go through. It's a done deal. Tmobile is history. All hail new higher prices and crappy service.
I plan on re-signing a new two year agreement at my grandfathered pricing as late as possible to push back the inevitable price hikes.
Edit. The dems recived $500,000 in contributions from ATT. Sorry for the typo.

sstang2006 said:
It has the hardware but not the software, YET.
FYI, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139849
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??? Not that I doubt you, but do you have any solid proof that it will work on ATT 3g? Conformation from ATT, Tmo or LG? Have any of the companies involved guaranteed it will work? All that thread says it should support it. I find the claims that it is locked down and hidden but will magically work later dubious at best.

jcbofkc said:
ATT gave half a billion dollars to democrat lawmakers to ensure the deal will go through. It's a done deal. Tmobile is history. All hail new higher prices and crappy service.
I plan on re-signing a new two year agreement at my grandfathered pricing as late as possible to push back the inevitable price hikes.
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I would not say the price hacks are innevitable. When verizon bought out alltell they didnt jack up the price on their current plans. In fact they pretty much stayed the same, just owned by verizon.

@sstang2006, yeah that's not proof that's just the same guy posting the same thing in a different thread...it isn't possible for this phone to run on at&t's 3g/4g networks
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laker666 said:
Those rumors about the g2x having both at&t and T-Mobile 3g/4g bands have been long proven to be false...same with the sensation ....to my knowledge there isn't a phone out as of yet that supports both. Please correct me if I'm wrong ...and if you unlock this phone to at&t it will work, but only on edge and wifi
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There are several phones out right now that support 3g on att and tmobile nokia makes atleast 6 phones that are pentaband wcdma 5 bands and the tmobile vibrant will do 3g on att Band I (UMTS 2100, Europe's main 3G band)
Band II (UMTS 1900, US band)
Band IV (UMTS 1700/2100, US band)
Band V (UMTS 850, US band)
Band VIII (UMTS 900, Europe and used e.g. in France and Finland in rural areas)

Well you saying it ISN'T possible isn't warranted either.
The hardware specs specifically say it supports those bands. Tmobile also said it supported those bands. LG said it supported those bands. It passed the FCC with those bands.
Tmobile stated that several of their high end phones will support the AT&T 3G bands and will be unlocked to do so once the merger goes through.
The G2x was the first to support them. The Sensation doesn't. I think the Hercules will as well (although be still be locked until the merger).
Now really, no one REALLY knows one way or another... but looking at the evidence (which are referenced all over the place) it would be best to say that one day we COULD have support for AT&T 3G (unlike the Sensation which doesn't have the hardware).
We do have the hardware but it is locked down. Being it is such a new phone and we don't have any other baselands available, we can't simply flash and be successful. Perhaps the Canadian version will have them all unlocked and we can use theirs.
But to say it isn't possible is not proven just as much as saying it is possible. I would say it IS possible but not right now (AKA it doesn't work out of the box).

i hope you're right sir....that is if the merger happens

player911 said:
Well you saying it ISN'T possible isn't warranted either.
The hardware specs specifically say it supports those bands. Tmobile also said it supported those bands. LG said it supported those bands. It passed the FCC with those bands.
Tmobile stated that several of their high end phones will support the AT&T 3G bands and will be unlocked to do so once the merger goes through.
The G2x was the first to support them. The Sensation doesn't. I think the Hercules will as well (although be still be locked until the merger).
Now really, no one REALLY knows one way or another... but looking at the evidence (which are referenced all over the place) it would be best to say that one day we COULD have support for AT&T 3G (unlike the Sensation which doesn't have the hardware).
We do have the hardware but it is locked down. Being it is such a new phone and we don't have any other baselands available, we can't simply flash and be successful. Perhaps the Canadian version will have them all unlocked and we can use theirs.
But to say it isn't possible is not proven just as much as saying it is possible. I would say it IS possible but not right now (AKA it doesn't work out of the box).
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I would love for this to be a possibility but where do you find that the phone has the hardware? Everything I can find via Google searches says it does not.

phburks said:
I would love for this to be a possibility but where do you find that the phone has the hardware? Everything I can find via Google searches says it does not.
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The hardware specs are all over the place. It was only AFTER the phone was released that Tmobile said the phone didn't support it and it was restricted by "hardware".
pfft.
The G2x is based off the O2x. Sure slightly different but I would almost bet they used the same "quadband EDGE, and quadband HSPA+ (with future-proof support for 2100, 1900, 1700 / AWS, and 850MHz)" chip.
I bet the G2x and the O2x use the same chip. Tmobile probably just ordered it to be locked down (lack of drivers or something).
It would require a tear down of both the G2x and O2x to be certain.

player911 said:
The hardware specs are all over the place. It was only AFTER the phone was released that Tmobile said the phone didn't support it and it was restricted by "hardware".
pfft.
The G2x is based off the O2x. Sure slightly different but I would almost bet they used the same "quadband EDGE, and quadband HSPA+ (with future-proof support for 2100, 1900, 1700 / AWS, and 850MHz)" chip.
I bet the G2x and the O2x use the same chip. Tmobile probably just ordered it to be locked down (lack of drivers or something).
It would require a tear down of both the G2x and O2x to be certain.
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"all over the place" ... "I bet" ... and "probably" don't really prove anything. You're just speculating, and so far it's based only on your opinion because you haven't provided any sort of links or references to prove your point. The only things I can find regarding the G2X having quad band HSPA+ are when T-Mobile admitted that they were wrong in saying it supported those bands in the first place. On LG's own website they list the G2X as supporting only 2 HSPA+ frequencies (1700/2100). Also on LG's website, they list the O2x as supporting 3 HSPA+ frequencies (900/1900/2100).
It would be awesome if T-Mobile had been correct, but there is nothing I can find that suggests they were. I'm just asking that you pull one or two links from your "all over the place" evidence so that I can have the same faith that you do. I'm not finding it, so I'm asking you to show me. That's all.
Here are the links to LG's product listings for the O2x and the G2X, and the specifications can be viewed by clicking on the specifications tab for each product:
G2X here: http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/LG-P999.jsp
O2x here: http://www.lg.com/uk/mobile-phones/all-lg-phones/LG-android-mobile-phone-P990.jsp
**EDIT** -- Let me just add that I sincerely hope you prove me wrong, because that would be some awesome news about this phone.

[Q] Lte and infuse

Will the infuse be able to run off the new lte network?

Even I know the answer to this...no
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No no no and..............???? No
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hold up a verizon lte phone to the infuse. the verizon phone will be twice as thick to hold that lte radio.

Nah ATT will have LTE in 5 cities by the end of the summer? I forgot, but yeah ATT is getting LTE.....
LTE is a different band therefore different modem. Infuse doesn't have an LTE modem/hardware. Done.s

Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?

lidezhan said:
Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?
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no, but there are radio chipsets that can do both. I don't think the infuse has this chip. and the infuse is not spec'd to have lte capabilities.
2g,3g,and 4g are just marketing terms that are supposed to give a general idea to the consumer how fast it is.

lidezhan said:
Chatted with AT&T tech support Mark. He said "HSPA+ and LTE are one and the same". Can I believe this guy?
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No. He has NO clue.

Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."

lidezhan said:
Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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Well at least you found Jesus...

lidezhan said:
Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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That's somewhat more believable - e.g. the hardware is capable but the radio baseband isn't yet.

lidezhan said:
Chatted with another AT&T tech support Jesus. According to him, "Infuse can run on both [HSPA and LTE] ... It is a phone designed for this transition since 4G level speeds are available with both LTE and the HSPA networks. And the Infuse can access them both. The Motorola Atrix as well ... I am not able to find documentation that is not proprietary. The information I have, since LTE is only in testing stages, is that LTE compatibility is not posted on the Specifications. The 4G speeds are currently being provided by an enhanced version of HSPA and HSPDA, and the phones are connectible. The 4G phones, such as designated the Atrix and the Infuse, will be able to access LTE once it becomes established via a software upgrade."
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the motorola xoom is lte upgradable so ther eis a posibility that the atrix is as well. this says nothing for the infuse. t-mo had the 4g flag on there hspa+ devices months ago and they cannot be upgraded to lte. it is a marketing game that started with sprint (wimax isnt all that fast compared to hspa which can run at 14.4mbps, hspa+ can run at 42mbps but att is only willing to supply 7.2 and 21mbps respectively http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/04/data-speed-showdown-sprint-4g-vs-t-mobile-hspa/) 4g just means that it is faster than 3g was, infact wimax is barely comperable to 3g with hspa on many gsm networks. the 4g flag offers no garentee that it will support lte on any carrieer other than verizon. att reps often speculate and talk out of there assses, many times the information comes from customers and not corperate.

The infuse supports the highest speed of lte and hspa that ATT has out now and it will support the fastest they have by the end of 2011. My ATT Rep (for work) told me so and has one herself.
Edit: btw, my att Rep, represents my entire district, highly doubt she would talk out of her ass, but I do agree that the ones u find in the stores r mostly untrained
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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.

i believe att will wait for the tmobile acquisition to finalize before releasing lte devices so they can use as many bands and cell towers as possible, easing network load issues and increasing coverage speed and reliablility.

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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.
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Most of the population would raise a brow if u even mentioned the terms HSPA or LTE. They didn't advertise it because spending that much money to advertise a feature that only 5% (guesstimate) of the population knows about isn't the brightest idea.

invizo said:
Most of the population would raise a brow if u even mentioned the terms HSPA or LTE. They didn't advertise it because spending that much money to advertise a feature that only 5% (guesstimate) of the population knows about isn't the brightest idea.
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Verizon built an entire ad campaign around LTE
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon...-its-the-most-advanced-4g-available-20101122/
And I can't seem to find the ad with the kid in the store, but they definitely push the fact that it's 4G LTE upgradeable. If ATT could, they would.

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There' no way. If the Infuse were capable of LTE they would have advertised the hell out of that. Unfortunately reps aren't engineers and clearly don't understand the technology. Now the infuse may be capable of the fastest speeds, i.e. equal to whatever the LTE network is limited to, but it's not connecting using LTE.
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Agreed...
As you point out in your next post, carriers do not shy away from using technical terminology in their advertising. Further, even if this were the case, one would expect LTE connectivity to at least be listed on the spec sheet. Not only is it NOT there, but it was not on the sheet I saw back when this thing went to the FCC. I'm not a lawyer, but assuming what was posted was what the FCC was looking at, I believe AT&T would be in violation of the law if this thing supported LTE.

DING DING DING!
We have a winner!
HSPA+ and LTE are NOT the same thing and the radio bands have little to nothing to do with which tech is used. Remember when AT&T had their last Mea Culpa moment and enabled 3G on the 850 MHz band? (Because it penetrates buildings better)
If the Infuse *is* capable of LTE, that's news to everyone. It would be on Samsung's Spec sheet. The manufacturer would want to announce ANYTHING that it's capable of.

nolsen311 said:
DING DING DING!
We have a winner!
HSPA+ and LTE are NOT the same thing and the radio bands have little to nothing to do with which tech is used.
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I'm from the SGS2 forum and we're having this debate too. A leak of the new 2.3.4 ROM that's supposed to be released at the end of the month has APN's for AT&T's LTE network along with PNGs of their unique LTE logos. So whatever version of the SGS2 AT&Ts releasing, it will run the same ROM as the international version. So, based on what you said about the "tech," what do you think what I just shared means? Is adding the 700mhz frequency to an existing radio all that's necessary to access LTE? Could the existing radios already support the frequency but have it disabled? No one really has a lot of info on LTE so it's kind of a mystery.
Here's an interesting article...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388526,00.asp

HSPA+ vs. LTE

seriously ive been wondering about this for a while now, and im just wondering which is truly better. HSPA+ or LTe? post speedtest pictures please...

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Idk... Look it up online.
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There are plenty of quotes on the boards, search is your friend.
It varies vastly by region. LTE is semi-consistent at 30Mbps+. HSPA+ can be anywhere from 1Mbps to 11Mbps. If LTE is available its the fastest connection available. But, its on limited markets on att.

Right now, lte is faster than hspa+ by around 10mbps (of course this can vary greatly). The difference is that lte is has much more potential. So in time, it's better to have an lte phone. But right now they are fairly comparable
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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...

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I see... Cause i really want lte but still want power like the original s2...
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Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Another thing on LTE, if you are on the old unlimited plan tons of people are getting throttled down to near zero, sometimes at less than 2 GB. So all that speed is wasted, and anyone that knows enough to know they want the extra speed will probably not get to use it for long.
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quarlow said:
Yeah, the i777 is the best, most powerful phone on att. Maybe the Galaxy S III will have LTE, or maybe a Note with LTE. There was just a FCC application for a Galaxy Note with LTE on att bands, but isn't proof it will actually hit att subsidized.
The Vivid is supposed to be nice, but its crickets in the dev forum, they only got the bootloader unlocked a few days ago. That will probably be the best bet for LTE phone.
The Skyrocket is just different enough it will stay forever in obscurity. The Nitro HD is a normal LG phone on att ... good build quality, poor dev draw, and don't plan on timely updates.
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Actually the skyrocket has an amazing dev community..mostly because of the fact that it can use the ROM's and Kernels of the T-mobile SGSII. And there is talk that it may be pentaband...the Radio's are interchangable as well.

Well this is interesting. How much are your guys speeds, and how much is your skyrocket if you have one?

are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?

So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update? This suppose to be their best phone as of now.
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citrix80 said:
are LTE network compatible with 4G? or LTE phones compatible with HSPDA+ phones? in other words, LTE phones and HSPDA+ phones work on different network or LTE phones can also receive HSPDA+ 4G data (functions)?
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LTE & HSPDA+ are both classified as '4G' but are different, incompatible systems.
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azumis said:
So i have read that T-mobile is getting LTE in 2013. Do that mean i have to get a new phone again, i wonder if my GS2 will get faster on the new network. And where the hell is my ICS update?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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so HSPDA+ and LTE has different network? LTE phones cannot receive HSPDA+ networks?
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Your phone will not run on LTE. But T-Mobile's HSTPS+ network is pretty fast and will be in operation for years to come, longer than you'll keep your present phone.
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what is HSTPS+ ? news says t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...r-LTE-leaves-82Mbps-HSPA-plans-behind_id27474

citrix80 said:
what is HSTPS+ ?
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A typo.
t-mobile is moving to LTE. currently released phone are HSPDA+ , so all the phones will not work with that?
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Present HSPDA+ phones will not work with LTE. I suppose some future phones may be capable of HSPDA+ and LTE. But my next phone will be HSPDA+. It will be around a long time, it's pretty fast and uses less battery power anyway.
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[Q] What's the differenece between the AT&T and [Non-AT&T]One X?

Anyone?

Well are you talking about the international One X or like the rogers? The AT&T version only has 16gb of storage versus the 32 on international but it does have LTE which isn't on the international version. The only other real difference im aware of is the use of the snapdragon S4 as opposed to the tegra 3 on international models.
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cloudraker said:
Well are you talking about the international One X or like the rogers? The AT&T version only has 16gb of storage versus the 32 on international but it does have LTE which isn't on the international version. The only other real difference im aware of is the use of the snapdragon S4 as opposed to the tegra 3 on international models.
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lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?

Supaiku said:
lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?
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Big question, is what country are you located, and who is your carrier?
LTE = long term evolution. Its AT&T's new 4G data network. Its not rolled out in many places yet (maybe 20 or so cities nationwide? More cities on the way). If you are an AT&T customer, and in a LTE market, you may see download speeds of up to 25 or 30 Mbps, which is possibly 10x faster than 3G (although results will vary widely for any data connection). If this applies to you, than this can obviously be a big motivator to get the AT&T version.
Different processor, and completely different SOC (system on a chip), so that also means different GPU. The S4 is faster in many benchmarks, while the Tegra 3 wins in some, and probably not a huge difference on the whole. But the Tegra3 (international) version seems to be having some graphical and other glitches related to the Tegra drivers, that might not be sorted out for a while. Also, its probably a bit early to say for sure, but battery life seems to be better on the AT&T (S4) version based on early reports.
The international version is probably going to see more users worldwide, and therefore get more dev support. Already lots of custom ROMs for the international version. And the different CPU means that ROMs will not be automatically compatible between the 2 versions (although its possible some devs may be able to port between the 2 . . . still to early to say). But I'm still hoping for dev support for the AT&T version to be decent.
Also, the AT&T version has their typical branding (splash screen, logos, etc.) and bloatware.
Rogers is a Canadian carrier. The Rogers One X is nearly identical to the AT&T version.

Supaiku said:
lol. Righty. "The only other difference is that the processor is completely different"
Thanks
When you say " the "rogers" what is that? I just mean there are two sections - one for AT&T One X and one for One X.
What's LTE anyhow?
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Rogers is a phone service in Canada. LTE stands for long term evolution and it is true 4g speed, it's data only at the moment, and it's considerably faster than 3G internet or Hspa+ which AT&T has called 4g, but it's just really fast 3G. But in the end 4G LTE is faster.

Thanks for clearing all that up!

vioalas said:
Rogers is a phone service in Canada. LTE stands for long term evolution and it is true 4g speed, it's data only at the moment, and it's considerably faster than 3G internet or Hspa+ which AT&T has called 4g, but it's just really fast 4G. But in the end 4G LTE is faster.
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Unfortunately, the definition of 4G has been blurred and revised to include HSPA+. But while LTE is obviously much faster than HSPA+; LTE doesn't even come close to fulfilling the original 4G requirements, which specify a peak download speed of 1 Gbit/sec.

redpoint73 said:
Unfortunately, the definition of 4G has been blurred and revised to include HSPA+. But while LTE is obviously much faster than HSPA+; LTE doesn't even come close to fulfilling the original 4G requirements, which specify a peak download speed of 1 Gbit/sec.
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This is true, and I just realized I called HSPA+ fast 4g, lol. I meant 3g