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I have to rant!

OK, now I know I am just an average joe here in these forums, but I am getting sick and tired of the **** that I see here and feel I can not sit idly by anymore!
All too often you get a guy nice enough to share his stuff by posting it and what do you get? About 4 pages of some ignorant asshole *****ing he stole someone else's work! So, the people really interested in downloading and flashing this ROM have to sift through pages upon pages of useless BS to find anything relevant to the ROM. Case in point is THIS THREAD. And what's worse? Twice in that thread a "mod" has stopped by to "keep the thread on topic"! That entire thread should have been shut down temporarily and all the useless unneeded posts deleted and the instigator dealt with.
OK, I am done now

It is being dealt with, thread closed.

[Rant] Where is the moderator??

So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Mod Edit: I see that this is only your second post in XDA and it is already a rant.
I suggest you first learn how to report posts and then rant regarding moderators...

ns4smi said:
So this forum has been all but derailed by rude and impulsive posters who flame thread after thread if they dont get their way. Never mine they contribute almost nothing to the dev scene. I saw the other day yet another talented dev is on the way out because of these few brats. Any way to contact the mod or add additonal moderators to weed out the trolls so the other members dont lose out?
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Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!

Jep56 said:
Well said. Seems like we have people new to Android/ smartphones, who feel entitled to answers that they can find themselves if the just read! And if they don't get answered within minutes, they call a ROM junk or jump the Dev. They should just go back to Iphone and remain a zombie!
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Totally agree with above, seems like a lot of tempers flared and people jumped ship. This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.

@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.

Digital_Biped said:
This phone still rocks and I hope support continues for it.
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Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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jscott30 said:
Agreed. This is still a great phone, and I hope that more folks will stick around to figure stuff out vs. waiting for a few devs to do everything for them. We have a few devs still looking out for us, and we should appreciate them rather than gripe at them. I plan to stick around for awhile, and will just ignore and stay out of any drama. Once we get source from AT&T Gingerbread, development should pick up some.
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I wish I could support more than I am now. Code doesn't scare me but I am at NO level to help with development (the devs almost seem like magicians at times) but in terms of theme-ing or anything visual that would need to be created I would be happy to help (buttons, icons, backgrounds, etc) because that is in my field.

diablo009 said:
@OP: Looks like you are kinda late with this observation. We already lost quite a few devs. Moderators on this forum are pretty much more strict when compared to captivate forums, and this still keeps happening.
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+1
It seems when we get new devs, ppl flood the threads with a "gimme" attitude and when they don't get their way they ***** and moan. I've been following here since the phone came out and it's amazing how hard ppl bite the hand that feeds them...
There are more noobs here than we know what to do with and they are constantly snapping at the devs, constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP) No wonder all of our useful members are upgrading and leaving. I'm hoping the moderators can step in if this gets any worse.

Report bad posts. They can't fix what they can't see, and it's not feasible to be babysitting 100 threads. broncogr will clean up the baddies, but the community needs to police itself. Don't respond to bad posts, just report them and move on.

I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him long to close it once he got my pm.
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tmease1 said:
I had my own post closed down and i had to find a moderator to do it. It didn't take him either once he got my pm.
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Easier way would be to report the post you want to take down. That would get quicker attention than an IM.
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xIC-MACIx said:
constantly posting repeat questions and asking stupid ass questions in ROM threads. (usually answered in the OP).
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Mention about searching to them, and here are the common retorts we get back:
1. Too many pages on ROMs to browse through
2. Its easier to ask and get answer than browse through
3. Why don't you just answer me than increase post count by telling me to search
What they fail to realize is that Q&A thread of a ROM is created specifically to address the ROM's issues, and searching there is the first thing to be done.
Maybe we should get a warning tab that shows warning levels given to any user. After certain number of warning, its the ban hammer on them for a short while that would restrict them from posting anything.

Instead of ranting and taking matters into your own hands why dont you just report the offending posts and they will be taken care of.
Unless you believe that mods are going to read any and all threads and any and all posts on a daily basis.
I try to keep the forum clean, move posts to the correct subforum and answer quickly to any reported posts and pm's.
But if you dont report it I will not be able to see it....
Cheers

[Q] {Q} to all moderators and XDA admin's

before i start this thread please understand i have been "stalking" this site and the forums gaining much knowledge of the devices i use and have owned... in NO way am i trying to bad talk any general mod or admin in anyway and dont mean for this to be insulting to anyone...
my question(s) is:
Why do most if not ALL moderators feel the need to threaten people in EVERY forum... now i can understand if there is a person swearing at someone... but honestly most of you flaunt your BAN powers a little to much... as if we cant see your "moderator" title and know when to shut up and grow up till you leave jk lol
now with that said i understand some of you have a life outside xda... and may get a little "pissy" then log on to XDA and see 50 PM's about a person or forum being out of control... you then go in there with a chip on your shoulder and not only get MORE pissed off... but make someone pissed off or upset by your NerdRage banhammer powers of steel
i think you need to understand that we are people too... just as you are... we are no perfect and do not mean to make mistakes... but with that SO DO YOU... so please if any moderators read this next time you "clean" a thread and decide to leave a cocky comment regarding your powers of vacation giving... try politely telling the general public to do what you ask...
(PLEASE INSERT USER FOR PEOPLE... IF YOUR A IGNORANT PERSON THAT THINKS EVERYONE IS FACELESS OVER THE INTERNET)
i really enjoyed xda a year or so ago... when it wasnt so violent and people where nice... but i think XDA moderators should set an example of those who are rude... and be the bigger person rather than blatantly abuse there privilege's
let this thread die... or comment i dont care... hell even ban me or send me on a vacation... some one needed to say this in my opinion... and obviously many people on here CANT have that very thing without someone *****ing at them.. or stepping on someones toes
hope XDA can start this new year off better than the last one ended
thanks

The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
And remember:

I tell you. Most moderators take this site to seriously. It's like it's their baby, also some of them are very sad And have nothing better to do than ban people.
Really you just have to put up with people that don't have a life outside this forum.
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That ban threat that you are talking about is a generic copy and paste message. Why should they type out a personalized message to the hundreds of people breaking the rules everyday? And it really isn't a threat. If you continue to break the rules, you WILL be banned.

Quote who you are talking to
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hungry81 said:
The short version: It's their JOB
The longer version. They are responsible for helping to keep XDA a innovative thriving board that has a wide range of users from a wide variety of different backgrounds and experiance. They not only have to deal with keeping the regular userbase happy but they have to ensure xda remains a productive and successful family friendly (for the most part) website, and in doing this they deal with alot of stupidity, trolls, spambots, incorrectly placed posts, whingers, drunkards, spammers, scammers, noobs, rickrolls, memes, tired old jokes, and self entitled douches (to name a few).
Some people may behave when they know a mod is watching whist others may continue being dumbasses or annoying or breaching the rules and may require a more firm approach. (Although in my oppinion a warning is not a firm approach, a flat out ban or suspension without a warning is). XDA is a informitive treasure-trove of awesomeness that covers a wide veriety of tablets, phones, programs and platforms, and whats more? ITS FREE! Sure feel free to whinge about being warned for a percived infraction but really you should be taking it up with the mod who did it or other mods cause this type of thread will get you no where. Believe it or not the tolerence level here is pretty high, as long as you post in the correct areas and make a minimal attempt to remain on topic, they are not too hard and if you are feeling like being stupid, they even provide a forum for people to be stupid in (check out the off topic section, I do regularly. Its funny..... sometimes.)
SO in the end you can either be in here whinging or out there making productive use of yours and your phones time, otherwise there is that little X in the top corner of your screen.
And remember:
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i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...

Bear gri11z said:
i have YET to get WARNED or ANYTHING from a moderator... this is a general question from all the **** i seen on man forums where the moderator feels the need to taunt and belittle people... this is a FREE site... but in no way should people feel like **** because a moderator is being a asshole...
and people like you (ignorant ****s) are the reason why people get defensive and trash talk each other and argue....
maybe after this post i will be yelled at for swearing but again this isnt about ME getting yelled at and complaining.... this is ME standing up for the people who dont get a warning for anything but get banned... and it has happened and for you to say" you shouldnt get a warning it should be a ban or vacation" just shows how arrogant you are... bet if i track through ALL of your recent posts/threads you havent helped one person without being a **** about it first...
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Lol its a crusader on the internets fighting for the rights of the downtrodden and abused on all forums everywhere, One day we will break free of this dictatorship and take the forums for the common man.
OR
WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAA No one tells me what to do ill tell my mummy and she will get you in trouble. My mummy says I can do what I want and you can't do any thing .
Actually your post and general whining reminds me of this:

close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.

r.sorujlall said:
close to the end of 2015 and alot of mods are still huge jerks who think they have power over any and everyone.
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I can tell you first hand the Moderates on this site are some of the best people I've ever encountered anywhere. And they have a site with near 7 million members to watch over. Then along come people who got "in trouble" for breaking the rules that they agreed to when they registered, calling moderators power tripping jerks. :silly:
Well, I will need to disagree. The tolerance most show amazes me at times. If you only knew the messages we often receive. Again, an incredible group of people here selflessly donating their time, for free, to help keep this site great.
All that said, me, myself, I lean to the jerk side.
Thread closed. 3 years late, but well deserved. :good:
Darth
Power tripping jerk Forum Moderator

FREE and OPEN-SOURCE

it seems people here have forgotten what this term means..
i posted a ROM on XDA that i found from a different site. credit was given to the rightful development team. all i did was spread the word and share..
this is the entire basis of the linux community.
a lot of people here complain about users being too needy, but honestly a lot of the "devs" are too greedy and full of themselves.. team inferno, for example, who has SOME members that act as if they developed and invented android themselves... when all they really do is a few graphic/theme enhancements.
there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting and sharing open-source work even if its not your own contribution, as long as the right credit is given. read the terms and conditions you more than likely blindly accepted when first using android or installing the SDK..
to the mod that closed my thread: thanks for aiding in the destruction of the community. i didnt think letting XDA know about what else is out there was such a crime. wait, what you guys are doing is more of a crime, which has potential of shutting down the entire virtuous team. but i love their work and im not an asshole so ill let it be
cool story bro

Another useless thread that will be locked. The reason why again, since you can't grasp the concept. YOU did NOT have the permission to post their work. Open source or not. Doesn't flipping matter. If you look at every single thread someone says with permission by blah, blah, blah. Don't get butt hurt that your little thread that you copied and pasted in the dev section got closed. It happens when you don't read the rules.
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People here need to chill out to much hate. But I do agree I don't post much here but I do believe some devs need to get off their high horse. .
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Thanks for what you did and Im sorry about what happened with your thread

Its not about being on a high horse. 8 months ago he would've dreamed of posting such **** on here. Now its full of noobs that don't know how to read rules
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Here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24003344
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sckboy78 said:
Another useless thread that will be locked. The reason why again, since you can't grasp the concept. YOU did NOT have the permission to post their work. Open source or not. Doesn't flipping matter. If you look at every single thread someone says with permission by blah, blah, blah. Don't get butt hurt that your little thread that you copied and pasted in the dev section got closed. It happens when you don't read the rules.
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i couldnt care less for the thread, whether i post it or someone else..
the point is the entire concept of "community" build around linux is useless when people cannot spread the message of different ROMs or distros or whatever it is. you want more users and testers, not restrictions..
what i did was only against your own made up rules. if you wanted to move the info to the general sub-forum, fine.. but to act as if IM in the wrong for spreading the word on a free and open-source product?..
take your credit for your work, but dont be selfish and hold it all to yourself or restrict it from certain groups. whats the reason for not allowing it on XDA? IT DOESNT MATTER, its most likely some dumb **** anyway..

grimey01 said:
i couldnt care less for the thread, whether i post it or someone else..
the point is the entire concept of "community" build around linux is useless when people cannot spread the message of different ROMs or distros or whatever it is. you want more users and testers, not restrictions..
what i did was only against your own made up rules. if you wanted to move the info to the general sub-forum, fine.. but to act as if IM in the wrong for spreading the word on a free and open-source product?..
take your credit for your work, but dont be selfish and hold it all to yourself or restrict it from certain groups. whats the reason for not allowing it on XDA? IT DOESNT MATTER, its most likely some dumb **** anyway..
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You got your thread locked and a moderator erased your o.p and put in capital letters. Do not post others peoples work without permission. That's my made up rule? Hmmm? Reporting this thread as we speak.
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sckboy78 said:
You got your thread locked and a moderator erased your o.p and put in capital letters. Do not post others peoples work without permission. That's my made up rule? Hmmm? Reporting this thread as we speak.
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good for you, you must feel really good about yourself
BTW, whether its a rule on XDA or not is not a concern. when youre dealing with FOSS or FLOSS, the federations rules trump any rule that you or a mod or a forum creates..
what if the ICS camera fix was found on another forum, but those members wouldnt let anyone else use it? do you know how much of a negative affect that has on the community? this is against everything linux stands for..
but thanks for being a jerk

.....guys seriously...just shut up. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it! This forum is falling apart. Just post what ROMs you want WITH PERMISSION, then just ignore the trolls. I could care less about that thread. Just my 2 cents..I'm prepared to be flamed anytime for this post.
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Never mind, I don't want to be in this argument.
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invasion2 said:
.....guys seriously...just shut up. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it! This forum is falling apart. Just post what ROMs you want WITH PERMISSION, then just ignore the trolls. I could care less about that thread. Just my 2 cents..I'm prepared to be flamed anytime for this post.
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i agree with you. and sure, i should have asked permission.. well, not ask but let them know im posting it elsewhere.. it shouldnt be an issue at all..

Shut up - moderator note - how not to make a post

Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!

This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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sptrsn said:
This is the "general" section.
As long as it relates to the phone in some regard people can say what they want.
In before the lock.
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Thanks, I am just getting frustrated, that you start reading some threads, and most of them are getting hijacked with the same ole stuff, put it in one area, and delete it from the rest.
As far as banning me, so be it, by the time I return the forum might just be cleaned. I am NOT the only person that has already thought of this. If it would make everyone happy, I reported myself for this thread to be deleted.

TheAxman said:
Man this forum is already starting to look worse than the G3 threads, where it's full of the same stuff, over and over, everyone needs to keep their mouths shut and quit asking about the fix to this phone and let the Dev's do their damn job. Keep in mind that they DON'T have to do a damn thing for no one. It isn't like you bought the phone and it came with a leaflet stating, "oh, btw, to do any mods on your phone, you will get service here" sheeez...all anyone is doing is pissing off the people we need to help.
Let the bashing begin, I can take it. This is my opinion only!
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this is the internet, what are you sincerely expecting?

Thread closed...If anyone wants opinions, go log on to social media for them. This here is a development site, contribute to that or log off - do not clutter threads with this stuff.
To clarify a couple other points, the general section of any thread is NOT for opinions like this, so it is not okay. Nor is creating this type of flotsam and jetsum and then self-reporting it while being self righteous in the process. When you accepted membership here, you agreed to post by the rules, and this thread is a great example of what not to do.
Oh yeah, always help a new user, and if you are confronted with disrespectful users, report the posts, and do not feed trolls or trollers.... Moderators are standing by to assist.