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should i get the g1 or n810?

i have a excalibur and have flashed android so i know that google just ripped of gentoo and disabled almost everything that would be good from a linux distro. i have not checked much of the updates/hacks/mods people have done yet, but as much as i have heard is that google blows and they dissabled the commandline even though it is still on the phone using up storage and ram. along with all of the commands and some applications like "vi" and since they decided to disable the "c.l." you cannot run native linux apps so you can only program in java even though you have the full capability to run regular c/c++ apps. so should i get the g1? or the n810, which has a full linux and i can just get nmap, gimp and whatever else i want on it? i mean yeah the g1 is "open source" and so is windows mobile if you wish so, i mean id probably have wm over android if there hasnt been any change from what i have heard/experienced. atleast then i can use embedded c++, or visual basic to program for it, and can even program for it to an extent right on it from notepad i mean i can do xml/html and mabey batch i havent tried.. sorry for the digression but anyways what are the pros and cons of "android" as far as development/poweruser?(gentoo mobile, and supposedly you can get debian on it?)

First of all the red makes it really hard to read so I only read about 4 words before I stopped. Second, what does this have to do with Android/Dream developement?

speoples20 said:
First of all the red makes it really hard to read so I only read about 4 words before I stopped. Second, what does this have to do with Android/Dream developement?
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lol the funny thing is i too read the first 4 words (exactly) and stopped. i guess i lost interest when i read excalibur haha. then wondered why is this topic even posted here.

statixchaos said:
lol the funny thing is i too read the first 4 words (exactly) and stopped. i guess i lost interest when i read excalibur haha. then wondered why is this topic even posted here.
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again as i asked before which would be better for developing, and what has been done as for modding/ect that might allow for better development

Maybe i am not seeing it but the N810 is only a internet tablet, not a phone right?. If you don't need a phone go with the N810, but if you need a phone go for the G1.

my .02
I have had an n800 since last xmas then got a g1 on opening day, from the sound of your post you'd be happier getting a cheapo 3g that can tether and an n810 the ITs are pure linux you can run debian and everything on them a full desktop install dual booting and running along with maemo(on which android is partly based, if im not mistaken) I love my tablet and cant wait till there is a good solid BT Pan for the g1, I think somebody is working on it or is close...not sure
you could also grab a 770 or a used n800 and a g1, I think you can find the 770 for ~$100usd
hope it helps
bhang

Wifi Tether app works

OK, Since Root is out I just rooted my phone and installed the Wifi Tether app (avaiable in the market) and it works like a charm.
Have a friend with an iPhone and she was able to connect right up and get online.
Gotta' love root..

Recent convert
I am a recent cover from blackberry to android. One thing I am interested in is rooting. It seems like it us a must to get everything out of the phone... However it also seems much more complicated than loading a beta os on a bb. Can you point me to a good, step by step instruction site on rooting my X. I'm not a "geek" or anything close. I just want to get everything I can out of these devices. Also, does the app you mention work with all macs? I noticed a lot of apps only work with pcs.

showson1 said:
OK, Since Root is out I just rooted my phone and installed the Wifi Tether app (avaiable in the market) and it works like a charm.
Have a friend with an iPhone and she was able to connect right up and get online.
Gotta' love root..
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+1 and confirmed. Rooted and Tethered myself this morning.
BB2DX said:
I am a recent cover from blackberry to android. One thing I am interested in is rooting. It seems like it us a must to get everything out of the phone... However it also seems much more complicated than loading a beta os on a bb. Can you point me to a good, step by step instruction site on rooting my X. I'm not a "geek" or anything close. I just want to get everything I can out of these devices. Also, does the app you mention work with all macs? I noticed a lot of apps only work with pcs.
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WiFi tether is of course OS agnostic. It sets your phone up as an access point.
Other apps are USB or possibly Bluetooth tethering, and that might require a client side app.
to Root:
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/23/videos-how-to-root-the-droid-x/

Thanks for the help. if i understand correctly, the app would allow for wifi hotspot without paying the$ 20. Fee to vzw?

BB2DX said:
Thanks for the help. if i understand correctly, the app would allow for wifi hotspot without paying the$ 20. Fee to vzw?
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Yes.
The "legality" (Violates TOS, etc) is another matter.

Ok.
I've looked at the sites explaining the rooting process and I think I get it. The crackberry community was great about providing support to people who wanted to do more. So far the android community seems on part with that, just need a rooting and android/linux for dummies site. Its a lot more technical than the bb os.

BB2DX said:
I've looked at the sites explaining the rooting process and I think I get it. The crackberry community was great about providing support to people who wanted to do more. So far the android community seems on part with that, just need a rooting and android/linux for dummies site. Its a lot more technical than the bb os.
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The "hardest" part of this will be setting up the Android SDK and making sure adb works properly.
This is my sort-of first Android phone (I had the Droid 1 on launch day, but took it back), so much of this is new to me too. I do have some minor linux experience, which helps, but I just followed the video link I posted step for step and had no problems.

The problem is, I don't know what android sdk or adb mean. That's why i'm not rushing into rooting. I am scared to brick this device. I love it (except for 8 hour charge on battery. But coming from a bb I should expect not to get the same two days) and am afraid of making a mistake due to lack of knowledge.

gonna post the info from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7334641&postcount=9 here again just in case u guys dont end up to see it
Here is a few things to keep in mind..
The Verizon 3G app is infrastructure, thus it works with things like PSP and Nintendo DS, which is why i keep it. The Wireless tether apps are only ad-hoc for now.
From what ive been told, the verizon app loads a different firmware in the wi chip before running.
this is why i ONLY use the hot app for PSP and DS and the rest wi-t for root
Hope this helps

BB2DX said:
The problem is, I don't know what android sdk or adb mean. That's why i'm not rushing into rooting. I am scared to brick this device. I love it (except for 8 hour charge on battery. But coming from a bb I should expect not to get the same two days) and am afraid of making a mistake due to lack of knowledge.
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You are wise to want to read all you can before jumping in.
Android SDK is the 'Software Development Kit'. It's the tools/drivers from Google that allow direct interaction with your android phone. While ostensibly intended for developers, it is the tool you will need.
ADB = Android Debug Bridge. It's a tool that comes with the SDK. It's a command line shell that allows you to push/pull files directly to the phone as well as open a shell (android is just a mini/modified version of linux - hence needing to get 'root' to be able to modify system related files).
Here is a link to a tutorial on how to take screen shots on the Droid X.
This is another thing that can be done with the SDK, so the important part of this tutorial is getting the SDK installed.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/07/22/how-to-take-screenshots-with-the-droid-x/
Hope that helps.

could have sworn DS and psp could connect to adhocs just fine, i know the wii can.

I've tried this with my nintendo wii. It finds the access point justice fine, but won't actually connect. Does anyone have any clues of possible setup corrections necessary?
I'm using the sapphire 32b.

mavermc said:
could have sworn DS and psp could connect to adhocs just fine, i know the wii can.
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no dice, trust me on that.. they can do ad-hoc if they are doing multiplayer gaming with other ds or psp units but not to go online

What to do
OK i hope to wifi tether as well. What is the process to set this up and what apps specifically do I need to get once I get my droid x? Thanks in advance.

aplechaty said:
OK i hope to wifi tether as well. What is the process to set this up and what apps specifically do I need to get once I get my droid x? Thanks in advance.
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See the various threads about Rooting your X.
If you want to pay VZW, then the app is already on there. If you want to cheat, you will need to Root.

I downloaded the droidxrootv2 zip file to my pc. The videos mention ADB what is this, and where do i get the drivers for it? Also is the wifi tether app named as such or is it called something else on marketplace? Thanks.

Original Impression - Is this for real?

I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R

Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.

Many of us understand your experience. Most of us acknowledge that the first software was not what it should have been.
I have a modded machine which is super. I have an OTA 3389 tablet which is more than acceptable.
From your comments, it sounds to me like your plan to return is the best course of action.
The G-Tablet can be a super machine, but not without some interest in working with and improving it on your part.
Sorry this is not better news. Maybe someone else will respond with a different idea.
Rev

bijan588 said:
Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.
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Yep, just check the dev forum for instructions on installing new custom firmware. I'd also recommend making sure that you install clockwork mod 0.8 to ease backup/restores.
...OTOH from what I've heard is that the new stock fw 3389 is quite a bit better than what it ships with. And from there you can add a few minor updates, rooting, maybe the performance pack, sideload some apps and possibly the market "fix" which might be good enough for you, but even then I'd really have to recommend installing clockwork mod simply for the ease of making an image of a nicely working modified system and then being able to restore that if something messes it up...
Tablet is really nice, stable, and fast once properly setup and it's not really too hard to do any of the above IF you FOLLOW the instructions and READ them ENTIRELY and the caveats BEFOREHAND.
Really it's almost plug and play...

racedog said:
I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
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Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
I guess that soon you'll find the lack of Copy/Paste. Apple was run out of town for this and Windows Phone 7 too. At least with the G Tablet the lack of Copy/Paste seems to be limited to the stock apps.

Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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Install the latest update and do a factory restore inside the security section of settings.
Then if you want install the tnt enhancement pack from the device section. Don't worry about returning to stock because they don't even open the box when you return or exchange. If they did, they would have no idea what they would be looking at.
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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You should be able to see the microsd on the Gtab using, for example, ES File explorer. It'll be at /sdcard2.
As for seeing /sdcard2 from your pc, I thought I saw a post saying that if you have winamp installed on the gtab, it has an option for mounting sdcard2, and when that's enabled you can see /sdcard2. Haven't tried that myself.
Jim
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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If you join #tegratab on freenode, I or someone else would help you. Here is a web client: http://webchat.freenode.net/
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P.S. Here's the thread about winamp and sdcard2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880237&highlight=winamp

Ahead of the game.
Hi racedog, actually I think you are ahead of the game. You seem to have made a lot of progress if you bought this Christmas eve.
How did you get it to run in the parking lot of the mall on Christmas eve? Even with a power inverter for power, hoe did you get a WiFi connection?
So far my G Tablet is stock and I am over-all happy with it. However, after Viewsonics post that they won't be providing any support for swapping the LCD screen, I feel they are missing the point. Their post said they would be anouncing some new products soon (my guess is at CES right after the first of the year).
I might end up taking my G Tablet back to Sears and waiting for the newer, more powerful and maybe more promising second generation tablets I am sure are to come at CES.
This tablet has been fun and I may keep it, but, I would really like to know the price points on the new models at CES.

Sucks out of the box.
Erase it and start over.
Load Clockwork Recovery Mod first! Put the update.zip on the sdcard, don't worry about the external SD method.
Once you have that boot mod, it's next to impossible to screw it up.
Flash that then get TNT lite 3.1.0 plus the supplement
Make sure you format the SDCARD using the advanced menu 2048 and 0 swap r it will crash on ya.
Do the full market fix. Download Dolphin HD and you will have a very usable tablet.
racedog said:
I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R
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I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R

racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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I found that the stock rom cannot use ad-hoc networks. I had to use the hack for the 3G Hotspot app on the DX to get it working on the Gtab. Once I upgraded to TnT lite than I was able to use Wireless Tether and stopped getting all the drops and reconnects too.
I really think that you will be happy with this as soon as you mod it with what's here in this community. I have only been here for less than a week and have found answers to all my questions. Good luck.

rothnic said:
Offer is still open on IRC
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I appreciate the offer but because of the holidays I won't be able to take you up on it until probably Tuesday, maybe tomorrow Monday if I get REALLY lucky. I going to be trying to do as much as I can myself until them.
I wondered if the problem might be that the stock rom did not recognize ad hoc networks because I looked for the option to select it and it was not there. Thanks for that info.
R

Forgot, the winamp solution didn't work. I selected the mount option in winamp but it did nothing. I will get back to this issue once I get the greater issue of the rom and wifi connect to my phone fixed. Those are the real biggies that need fixing first.
R

Thanks to rothnic this new G has CWM installed and tnt like running on it along with Market and other apps that I've downloaded from it. What a huge difference this makes, my constant FC's seem to have stopped happening and I am now very happy with this unit. What a world of difference.
The screen is still a major issue but I can live with it (for now, will keep watching the screen swapping thread) but the device is fast, functional and completely usable whereas 24 hours ago I was set to return it to Sears but my wife talked me out of that and to try fixing it.
Again, special thanks to rothnic for all the "above and beyond" help and patience and also to all of the Gtab community here for the help and suggestions.
R

[Q] Newbie to Xoom tablet

Hey guys , i took the plunge and bought a WIFI only Xoom a little under a week ago and so far i really like it . though i did question the purchase after seeing the lack of apps in the market that scale to the xoom's 10 inch screen .
I have been reading around the forum and trying to decide if i want to unlock and root my xoom .
I love flashing kernels and such to my HTC Desire but I was wanting some input as to whats really out there for the xoom and is it worth doing .
I think the xoom is rather speedy as it is stock , so is the tiamat kernel really worth doing ?
also , reading around the net i see that the Google Movies addon (when it comes to wifi only xooms) will not work with rooted devices .
this is a big negative to me and the family as we justified the purchase of the xoom on a lot of features including the movies in the android market .
so , please chime in if you dont mind and let me know what you think about the above .

At the moment the main kernel available is Tiamat's, or some other variations on more or less his work. These are great kernels, but are mainly useful for overclocking. If you do not intend to do a lot of intensive gaming and are happy with your current speed on the Xoom, then overclocking really isn't a big need for you.
Considering your situation, if I were you I would leave my Xoom as it is, unrooted for now. That way you can get the Google Movies when they arrive as you stated that was a very important feature for you. If after a while you decide you are not getting as much value out of that feature as you expected, or if Google changes its policy, there will always be time to root your device later. Also by that time there may be more kernel options or Ice Cream Sandwich hacks to flash.
You are not closing any doors by not rooting/flashing right out of the box. I just can't see any compelling reason for you to root at this point....and a couple good reasons why you shouldn't for now. The Xoom is a great device and has more then enough to hold your attention without flashing.

I haven't rooted my Xoom, nor have I rented out any flix. The tiamat kernel (from my understanding) enables SD card and allows you to overclock.
I don't ever 'rent' any content, and I'm willing to wait for an update that will enable the SD card. You can watch your own movies just fine on the Xoom, and watch TV shows from the network television sites.
Android Market tablet apps are still too few, but that should change quickly this summer as many more Honeycomb tablets are released (of course, we thought that would have happened already with the release of the Acer and Asus tablets).

That was my main thing the sdcard not working and is what keeps me on the fence about xoom or galaxy tab 10.1. So does rooting it get the sdcard working fully with little to no bugs? Cause that may help me decide
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dased14 said:
That was my main thing the sdcard not working and is what keeps me on the fence about xoom or galaxy tab 10.1. So does rooting it get the sdcard working fully with little to no bugs? Cause that may help me decide
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Once I rooted and flashed the Tiamat kernel I have had no problems at all with the external SD card.
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fordthunder said:
Hey guys , i took the plunge and bought a WIFI only Xoom a little under a week ago and so far i really like it . though i did question the purchase after seeing the lack of apps in the market that scale to the xoom's 10 inch screen .
I have been reading around the forum and trying to decide if i want to unlock and root my xoom .
I love flashing kernels and such to my HTC Desire but I was wanting some input as to whats really out there for the xoom and is it worth doing .
I think the xoom is rather speedy as it is stock , so is the tiamat kernel really worth doing ?
also , reading around the net i see that the Google Movies addon (when it comes to wifi only xooms) will not work with rooted devices .
this is a big negative to me and the family as we justified the purchase of the xoom on a lot of features including the movies in the android market .
so , please chime in if you dont mind and let me know what you think about the above .
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As long as you are willing to take responsibility for your actions if your brick or otherwise roast your device I dont' care what you do with it. If I may rant for 5 seconds I'm becomming increasingly irritated with people who are coming in here... breaking their Xoom's and then crying for advice and the advice being given is "take it back to the store and swap it out". No, that's called theft.
I think rooting is probably 100x safer than overclocking though which is where most of these people seem to get in trouble.
Other than that, welcome to the Xoom and I hope you enjoy it. I really love mine and could probably go on for half an hour about what I use it for.
Here is a quick and dirty list of apps that I find myself using daily:
- Pulse
- Paradise Island (lol)
- PocketCloud (paid ver)
Entertainment I find myself dabbling with almost daily:
- Pinball HD
- Riptide GP (both paid, very fun)
- Splashtop (for remote WoW, lol... also paid)
Other stuff I use daily but isnt downloaded apps include the browser obviously, I also use Firefox to access intranet sites (like sbs2003/sbs2008). I use the heck out the mail client. I also switch back and forth between the facebook app and using the page in the browser.
There are probably more tablet oriented apps than you think by now, as I find that new ones are coming out every day and some of them are really good.
If there's anything particular you think you'd like to know about just ask

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That was my main thing the sdcard not working and is what keeps me on the fence about xoom or galaxy tab 10.1. So does rooting it get the sdcard working fully with little to no bugs? Cause that may help me decide
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No it doesnt. The possibility of data corruption exists. ASUS and Acer have implimented Kernel hacks to enable SD support. My personal vote is to wait for Google to properly impliment SD support and be satisfied with the more than ample 32GB of on board storage.

khov07 said:
I haven't rooted my Xoom, nor have I rented out any flix. The tiamat kernel (from my understanding) enables SD card and allows you to overclock.
I don't ever 'rent' any content, and I'm willing to wait for an update that will enable the SD card. You can watch your own movies just fine on the Xoom, and watch TV shows from the network television sites.
Android Market tablet apps are still too few, but that should change quickly this summer as many more Honeycomb tablets are released (of course, we thought that would have happened already with the release of the Acer and Asus tablets).
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About the availability of apps with coinciding tablet release.... some developers just aren't in a position to go out and buy tablets I guess which is why I'm very happy to see Google give 5000 units away at their I/O even if someone of them went to dip**** bloggers.

What about that tiny little charging plug was looking at that and looks to be easily broken. Has anyone had a problem with it?
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dased14 said:
What about that tiny little charging plug was looking at that and looks to be easily broken. Has anyone had a problem with it?
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None at all so far

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None at all so far
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thats good to know,thing just looks really small

[Q] What to do with my TF101?

Hi all,
I haven't used my tablet in ages, because I don't know what to do with my tablet.
That sounds a bit strange, but I haven't found something interesting.
Some topics I'm interested in: hacking, modding, Linux, etc.
I was thinking about using my tab for controlling stuff in the house (lights, power, etc.).
But then, I could also use my phone for that kind of stuff. And their the problem begins, almost everything I can do on my tab, I can do on my phone.
It seems also to be difficult to sell the tablet for some reason, no one seems interested.
What I would like is to get Arch Linux on it or something that is clean, fast & up-to-date.
Or just some cool ideas I haven't done with the tablet yet.
Anyway, sorry for this question. But I hope to get an answer what to do.
Thanks!

Dunno about Arch, but there are a couple of Linux projects going on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648862
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2692270
Maybe learn from the above, and port Arch linux instead of *buntu
If you are knowledgeable with Linux, maybe you could take up where this project ended
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168473
And iirc, there was a way to emulate Win 95 on the TF a while ago
There are some hardware mod projects too, people have added laptop HDDs to the dock (inside) and wired them to the USB ports
But being an ARM Android tablet, options for projects are quite limited, I guess you could learn how to port Android and make your own ROMs for the TF101 / become a dev on XDA and release new builds of your ROMs like other devs do
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Sounds like the Raspberry Pi would be more your type of thing, they have just released a new Model B+ for $35 the other day too, you can install Arch on that

I know some people set them up to use in the car for media devices or for obdii scanners. Just a thought.

beta990 said:
Hi all,
I haven't used my tablet in ages, because I don't know what to do with my tablet.
That sounds a bit strange, but I haven't found something interesting.
Some topics I'm interested in: hacking, modding, Linux, etc.
I was thinking about using my tab for controlling stuff in the house (lights, power, etc.).
But then, I could also use my phone for that kind of stuff. And their the problem begins, almost everything I can do on my tab, I can do on my phone.
It seems also to be difficult to sell the tablet for some reason, no one seems interested.
What I would like is to get Arch Linux on it or something that is clean, fast & up-to-date.
Or just some cool ideas I haven't done with the tablet yet.
Anyway, sorry for this question. But I hope to get an answer what to do.
Thanks!
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Really the best way to figure out what it can do, and do better that your phone is to use it. There are some things I find much easier to do on my table than on my phone especially as I have a keyboard which gives me usb ports and a real keyboard. Much more convenient to type anything of length than my phone.
Anyway, you really just have to dedicate yourself to using it before you can make judgments as to what device is going to be best suited for what activities.