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Original Impression - Is this for real?

I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R

Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.

Many of us understand your experience. Most of us acknowledge that the first software was not what it should have been.
I have a modded machine which is super. I have an OTA 3389 tablet which is more than acceptable.
From your comments, it sounds to me like your plan to return is the best course of action.
The G-Tablet can be a super machine, but not without some interest in working with and improving it on your part.
Sorry this is not better news. Maybe someone else will respond with a different idea.
Rev

bijan588 said:
Unless you mess around with the bootloader, you cant really brick it. Nobody has yet, and I doubt you would be the first.
Also I reccomend this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885940
It is like A lite eversoin of TNT lite. It speeds it upi while keeping it stockish.
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Yep, just check the dev forum for instructions on installing new custom firmware. I'd also recommend making sure that you install clockwork mod 0.8 to ease backup/restores.
...OTOH from what I've heard is that the new stock fw 3389 is quite a bit better than what it ships with. And from there you can add a few minor updates, rooting, maybe the performance pack, sideload some apps and possibly the market "fix" which might be good enough for you, but even then I'd really have to recommend installing clockwork mod simply for the ease of making an image of a nicely working modified system and then being able to restore that if something messes it up...
Tablet is really nice, stable, and fast once properly setup and it's not really too hard to do any of the above IF you FOLLOW the instructions and READ them ENTIRELY and the caveats BEFOREHAND.
Really it's almost plug and play...

racedog said:
I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
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Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
I guess that soon you'll find the lack of Copy/Paste. Apple was run out of town for this and Windows Phone 7 too. At least with the G Tablet the lack of Copy/Paste seems to be limited to the stock apps.

Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
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Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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Install the latest update and do a factory restore inside the security section of settings.
Then if you want install the tnt enhancement pack from the device section. Don't worry about returning to stock because they don't even open the box when you return or exchange. If they did, they would have no idea what they would be looking at.
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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You should be able to see the microsd on the Gtab using, for example, ES File explorer. It'll be at /sdcard2.
As for seeing /sdcard2 from your pc, I thought I saw a post saying that if you have winamp installed on the gtab, it has an option for mounting sdcard2, and when that's enabled you can see /sdcard2. Haven't tried that myself.
Jim
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racedog said:
Fuzzy John said:
Here's a trick that works for me: if I zoom in a little on the webmail page that I cannot scroll, after the zooming in I am able to scroll to view the entire email.
QUOTE]
Thanks John for that suggestion!! It worked and I can read my email from the G. That makes me happy.
Now for a new issue, I formatted a 16gig SD (FAT32) and put that in, the unit says that it knows that it is there but when I connect the unit using the USB cable to my Win 7 (64) machine its finds the machine, I tell it to activate USB transfer mode but I don't see SD2 in there. I wanted to transfer a pile of music onto it but can't do that since I can't see it. I tried transferring the music directly to the sd and then putting it into the G but when I do that it doesn't find anything.
I didn't really find anything on point in searching so if I'm missing that please point me to the thread.
I think I will go ahead and work with this. I've used and moded Win Mobile phones for the last ten years but am new to Android.
The offer for help still stands if anyone wants to take advantage and I would like to use it as a learning experience as I get into Android.
Oh yeah, thanks to all for the super fast responses. That is really appreciated. Even though it only shows that I have 5 or six posts here that isn't quite accurate. Many years ago when this site first opened I found it because I was using XDA phones but those were all WinMO at the time. I drifted away for a long time and when I came back now I am a new member again here. No longer a WinMo user and I really don't like Windows Phone 7 so I bought a Moto DX and love the phone, got my wife an HTC Incredible (she gave up her iPhone for that and that took a LOT of convincing on my part) but I am pretty much really happy with the Android OS and where it seesm to be going.
What I do love about the G is the size, the Galaxy Tab is just too small and the 800 horizontal resolution is too small so when I found a 10" tablet with 1024 and only $379.95 it sounded like a great deal. The screen angle is a ***** but I can live with that but I am sorely missing the Market (GMarket is sad). Looking forward to getting this machine rooted and rom'ed and up and running like it should be.
R
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If you join #tegratab on freenode, I or someone else would help you. Here is a web client: http://webchat.freenode.net/
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P.S. Here's the thread about winamp and sdcard2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880237&highlight=winamp

Ahead of the game.
Hi racedog, actually I think you are ahead of the game. You seem to have made a lot of progress if you bought this Christmas eve.
How did you get it to run in the parking lot of the mall on Christmas eve? Even with a power inverter for power, hoe did you get a WiFi connection?
So far my G Tablet is stock and I am over-all happy with it. However, after Viewsonics post that they won't be providing any support for swapping the LCD screen, I feel they are missing the point. Their post said they would be anouncing some new products soon (my guess is at CES right after the first of the year).
I might end up taking my G Tablet back to Sears and waiting for the newer, more powerful and maybe more promising second generation tablets I am sure are to come at CES.
This tablet has been fun and I may keep it, but, I would really like to know the price points on the new models at CES.

Sucks out of the box.
Erase it and start over.
Load Clockwork Recovery Mod first! Put the update.zip on the sdcard, don't worry about the external SD method.
Once you have that boot mod, it's next to impossible to screw it up.
Flash that then get TNT lite 3.1.0 plus the supplement
Make sure you format the SDCARD using the advanced menu 2048 and 0 swap r it will crash on ya.
Do the full market fix. Download Dolphin HD and you will have a very usable tablet.
racedog said:
I bought this Gtablet when my wife and I were out doing last minute Christmas shopping on Friday afternoon. No actual live unit on display or available at Sears so bought one based on hope. My first impressions were very mixed. It was painfully slow when I first booted it up while waiting for my wife who had gone into another store and I waited for her in the car (plugged in using inverter we carry with us). Later when we got home it downloaded the update and that helped the speed issue (but still sluggish) but I've run into all kinds of issues that have me ready to return this thing.
First thing I noticed is the number of times that apps force close on the GT including the browser built into the unit. That is about to drive me nuts but I discovered another even more major issue - for me. I planned to use this device to log into our webmail server when I'm travelling in order to get my mail. I can log into the webmail and I can bring up the mail but when I open a piece of email I cannot scroll the screen to read the entire email. I also have a Moto DX and I can read my email via web just fine on that (don't like it because of the small screen and keyboard). So, why does my DX work fine with our webmail client and the GT not work? I am clueless and ticked off.
I was going to return it today but my wife wants me to hold off and call Viewsonic support but I have my doubts that they will be of much help. So, I'm wondering if putting up a custom ROM might help because of using a different kernel?
I have a couple of weeks to return this but I want it either working or gone so I have a proposal. I'm new to Android and don't want to take the chance of bricking this and losing my money and I need this done quickly in order to make a decision. I"m willing to pay a modest fee for someone "KNOWLEDGEABLE" to possiby teamviewer into one of my machines to to root/rom this unit. There would absolutely have to be a return to stock method in case the new rom doesn't work either.
I have a Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit machine, Win 7 Prof. 64 bit and a Win XP 32 bit machine available to use. In reading through a number of threads here it seems that various iterations of Windows have issues with the drivers for this. You can PM me here.
R
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I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R

racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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Offer is still open on IRC

racedog said:
I will be doing the clockwork mod and putting on a new rom. The question is about formatting the card. You mention above used "advanced menu 2048", I don't know where I would find that on android on the G, or are you referring to something else?
I didn't get it connected while in the car, I just had it plugged in so that I could take a look at it and start putting a charge on it. I didn't connect until I got home. However, I DID try connecting it in the car using my Moto DX with wireless tether. The dx showed that it was running but the G never found the signal from the phone. It did see a few other secured wifi connections but it didn't see the phone. I have no idea whether this was because I don't have wifi tethering setup correctly on the DX or what the deal is but I figured I would work with that later.
I don't really care if I have to tether via usb with the phone but wifi is a lot cleaner and easier if possible. I know that easy tether and pdanet are out there but I haven't checked to see if they have an android client yet, I've only used them on my Win 7 netbook.
R
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I found that the stock rom cannot use ad-hoc networks. I had to use the hack for the 3G Hotspot app on the DX to get it working on the Gtab. Once I upgraded to TnT lite than I was able to use Wireless Tether and stopped getting all the drops and reconnects too.
I really think that you will be happy with this as soon as you mod it with what's here in this community. I have only been here for less than a week and have found answers to all my questions. Good luck.

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Offer is still open on IRC
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I appreciate the offer but because of the holidays I won't be able to take you up on it until probably Tuesday, maybe tomorrow Monday if I get REALLY lucky. I going to be trying to do as much as I can myself until them.
I wondered if the problem might be that the stock rom did not recognize ad hoc networks because I looked for the option to select it and it was not there. Thanks for that info.
R

Forgot, the winamp solution didn't work. I selected the mount option in winamp but it did nothing. I will get back to this issue once I get the greater issue of the rom and wifi connect to my phone fixed. Those are the real biggies that need fixing first.
R

Thanks to rothnic this new G has CWM installed and tnt like running on it along with Market and other apps that I've downloaded from it. What a huge difference this makes, my constant FC's seem to have stopped happening and I am now very happy with this unit. What a world of difference.
The screen is still a major issue but I can live with it (for now, will keep watching the screen swapping thread) but the device is fast, functional and completely usable whereas 24 hours ago I was set to return it to Sears but my wife talked me out of that and to try fixing it.
Again, special thanks to rothnic for all the "above and beyond" help and patience and also to all of the Gtab community here for the help and suggestions.
R

[Q] will the transformer suit my needs/expectations?

im in the market for a tablet and I keep coming back to the transformer.ive done some research but I just need a few questions answered by actual owners to make me take the leap. i need the following in my tab:
eye candy
hdmi out
cwm/roms
no annoying bugs. ( by annoying i mean reboots and such. no stock g2x crap )
from the threads i know it has the 1st 3. but ill need some clarification on the bugs part. now to the deal breakers. I NEED certain apps to work on this bad boy
hbo go
netflix
longevity ( it doesnt have to be as good as the lets say HD2 but u get the point)
ps3 sixaxis controller (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, ill pass if it doesn't)
also all in all are you guys happy with the tablet? would you prefer another one and if so why? any features that just make you want to smash it against the wall? lol thanks

uploder said:
im in the market for a tablet and I keep coming back to the transformer.ive done some research but I just need a few questions answered by actual owners to make me take the leap. i need the following in my tab:
eye candy
hdmi out
cwm/roms
no annoying bugs. ( by annoying i mean reboots and such. no stock g2x crap )
from the threads i know it has the 1st 3. but ill need some clarification on the bugs part. now to the deal breakers. I NEED certain apps to work on this bad boy
hbo go
netflix
longevity ( it doesnt have to be as good as the lets say HD2 but u get the point)
ps3 sixaxis controller (ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, ill pass if it doesn't)
also all in all are you guys happy with the tablet? would you prefer another one and if so why? any features that just make you want to smash it against the wall? lol thanks
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Does HDMI well, there is CWM and ROMS but the newer models have a different secure key so regular root methods may not work...but when you do get root, the custom roms fix all those bugs. And if not, request it!
As for eye candy, I love showing it off. The key is having it in the dock. Then undocking blows their mind. they go, woah!!! I need to get one! haha.
Havent tried hbo go, sorry.
I hear the last update enables netflix without root!
last long i suppose, no one knows since its been out for a few months. but you could RMA.
The PS3 controller works. Tried it. that was one of the first things I did. I hear they even have an app for the wireless, you dont need the usb cable plugged in to the dock. Wii works too. Not sure about xbox.
Love the tablet. best thing ive bought in a while. use it all the time. its an extension of my main gadgets. My desktop, tablet and phone have all the same stuff, all synced. And when i leave my desktop, my tablet has the things the desktop was doing (either by chrome to phone or remote desktop). The thing makes calls too. And google voice works, so text and voicemail. Overall, I see this as the future. Dock when you need to type fast/add precision. undock for portability/touchscreen. smoooooth. best of both worlds. remoting into windows works perfect, remote RDP supports right click. splashtop is better for streaming however, plays videos like a boss. everyone will get one of these eventually.

thanks for the insight. im definitely looking into this tab

1 have not tried hbo go
2 stock firmware has netflix support now, find the .apk installer in google and download then install
3 longevity, don't know to early to tell, it is not that old. but i would think so because it is a low price and has a unique dock.
4 havent tried this one but honeycomb should just recognize it. somewhere i saw an app to let you connect through bluetooth, but you needed root.
as far as rooting goes some b70 models all ones above were changed so you couldnt root them at the moment. the people who rooted it the first time are trying to get a working root for the newer models to. he may get them to be rootable again and asus may block it again. only time will tell.
some b70's becouse ming was rootable.

Very happy with this tab. I dwelled for hours on it - trying to chose between this and the acer iconia. Both have their merits but in the end decided its rather have this for the dock. At times a proper keyboard can be handy and the extra battery life is also nice. I don't envisage bring away from power more than a couple of hours but good to know I can go probably a few days without needing to look at a charger if I had to.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

yeah i plan on getting it from amazon so im assuming I would get a newer model b70 or b80. hopefully these will be rootable in the near future....i have plans for this bad boy

Well, I'm not... Asus support sucks, mine has been broken since mid July and asus have failed to fix it twice now. Waste of money its spending all its time broken.

^^^^^^^what exactly is broken on yours?

get an ipad.

^^cant....im not a sheep

uploder said:
yeah i plan on getting it from amazon so im assuming I would get a newer model b70 or b80. hopefully these will be rootable in the near future....i have plans for this bad boy
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Just bought mine yesterday from a local best buy store and it happened to be a B60 model. So excited when I saw this. Used it all last night and really love the thing. Best buy I have made in a long time.

Xoom 3G/WiFi Question..........

Quick Question:
The Xoom with the WiFi/3G......can i use that for WiFi only and NOT have it turned on with a carrier????
I know they have a Xoom WiFi only...but i might be getting this Xoom tomorrow from a guy..his is 3G/WiFi...so i wanted to be 100% sure before i get it. I only want it for WiFi.
Also..i may be behind in asking this..but is the microSD active and working now in the Xoom? Heard it wasnt before.
AND..for example...the G tablet has 2Gb of internal space..PLUS a internal 16GB SD card...does the Xoom have 2 like that also?
Edit: If it has Android 3.0 on it when i get it...if i hook it to WiFi.....will it update automatically to the latest 3.2.1?

Yes you can have a Xoom 3G and only use WiFi. I did the same thing for months. The Xoom has 32GB internal (internal SD that is) but you can add another SD card in the slot and get up to 64GB. Yes the Xoom will update over the air on WiFi and allow you to use the SD card. If you plan to root the device there are obviously plenty of other features you can activate on this device. Use the forum search to clear up any other concern you may have. Good luck!

Isun said:
Yes you can have a Xoom 3G and only use WiFi. I did the same thing for months. The Xoom has 32GB internal (internal SD that is) but you can add another SD card in the slot and get up to 64GB. Yes the Xoom will update over the air on WiFi and allow you to use the SD card. If you plan to root the device there are obviously plenty of other features you can activate on this device. Use the forum search to clear up any other concern you may have. Good luck!
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You answered it all dude. Thanks alot. Even tho a friend just got back to me by email at 5am lol. Told me the latest update activated the SD slot right???
I thought it may have 2 like the GTab. But 32 is more then good. Plus the ability to add more from the SD Slot.
I doubt ill ROOT. Some people are never satisfied lol. I can understand if the Xoom shipped like the GTab did..which sucked. It would NEED to be ROOTED then. But i doubt it runs so slow and everything is SOOO terrible that it NEEDS ROOT. My GTab is ROOTED..should be good enough for me. Thanks again.
Edit: Just to be asking...how much is the plan per month for this on 3G? And what can you do from it...TEXT?

When I finally started using the Verizon plan it was only to make sure I was in their system to get the 4G upgrade but I then learned that you could get the upgrade even without having their service. I chose the lowest plan available for the Xoom which is 2GB a month at $30. It's just a data plan to access the web and such. I use it WiFi mostly and sometimes tether to my Sprint phone. In cases when I don't have time to tether, the 3G/4G capabilities of the Xoom come in handy and Verizon 4G LTE is worlds faster than anything else. Yes there is a way to use SMS on the Xoom but if you have Google Voice you don't really need that because you can respond to text right through the Google Voice app which uses the normal data plan or over WiFi.
The best part of rooting for me so far has been the ability to back up all apps and the app data with Titanium back up. I remember having the game Asphalt 6 and finishing the whole thing then did a factory reset for some other reason I cant remember and lost the whole thing. I got the game back but had to start from scratch. Titanium would have prevented that disappointment. Also you can overclock which I have had great results with. You can change the screen density for the appearance of higher resolution and much more. If you don't need it then don't do it but I can't say anything bad about rooting.

I agree with you. For the GTab..it HAD to be ROOTED. Came with the worst stock software on it. Not even the real Market and such. The backup thing with Titanium IS nice. I doubt i will NEED a plan. Thanks for that info.
The overclock thing is maybe the only thing i would want in terms of it being ROOTED. I think its a nice Tablet left like it is. Not that im saying ROOT cant make it better. Just that some Tablets HAS TO be ROOTED because it sucks so much. I doubt with all the reviews im seen the Xoom is like that. Wish you could overclock without having to ROOT. Now THAT would be kool would it?

DJR0D said:
I agree with you. For the GTab..it HAD to be ROOTED. Came with the worst stock software on it. Not even the real Market and such. The backup thing with Titanium IS nice. I doubt i will NEED a plan. Thanks for that info.
The overclock thing is maybe the only thing i would want in terms of it being ROOTED. I think its a nice Tablet left like it is. Not that im saying ROOT cant make it better. Just that some Tablets HAS TO be ROOTED because it sucks so much. I doubt with all the reviews im seen the Xoom is like that. Wish you could overclock without having to ROOT. Now THAT would be kool would it?
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The Xoom will likely get the Ice Cream Sandwich update pretty soon. Who knows what functionality that could bring. If you're getting a good deal, you can't go wrong.

okantomi said:
The Xoom will likely get the Ice Cream Sandwich update pretty soon. Who knows what functionality that could bring. If you're getting a good deal, you can't go wrong.
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WOW. I really hope my deal comes thru. I know i will love my Xoom. I dont think it will NEED to be ROOTED for me. Even tho i just read that if you open too many apps at once...it lags really bad. Hmm. You guys experience that???
Still...i hope my deal comes thru.

DJR0D said:
WOW. I really hope my deal comes thru. I know i will love my Xoom. I dont think it will NEED to be ROOTED for me. Even tho i just read that if you open too many apps at once...it lags really bad. Hmm. You guys experience that???
Still...i hope my deal comes thru.
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It depends on what you consider too many but there are apps like Advanced Task killer that manage those types of things pretty well. I never really had issues with lag.

Isun said:
It depends on what you consider too many but there are apps like Advanced Task killer that manage those types of things pretty well. I never really had issues with lag.
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Yea..it was a review from some company i just read. I doubt it will lag like i think it will. My GTab never really lags at all. I just want to get this soon. I was planning on saving up to maybe get it in Feb...or unless money comes up before that. But someone wants to trade me a very nice Xoom for some gadgets i have. I pray this falls thru.
Edit: I may be wrong but..theres something i notice about the pics of the Xoom. Theres no Home...back..Menu button on the outside of the Tablet like most Tablets? All is onscreen? If so...ain't that kinda bad???? Theres been many times on my GTab i needed to click the back button from the Tabelt instead of the on screen back button. Unless i need to see a closer pic of the Xoom..i hope im wrong.

The Xoom has volume buttons on the side and a power button on the back. Everything else is on screen and that's not bad from what I see.

Isun said:
The Xoom has volume buttons on the side and a power button on the back. Everything else is on screen and that's not bad from what I see.
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Yea....but wow..i doubt i ever saw a Tablet without the Home or Back buttons outside of the screen. I havent heard anything bad about that either. But it makes me think it'll be needed for something.
Like example...on my GTab one time..i did something...dont know what i did...but my onscreen Home and Back buttons were gone. Think i made it into a Full Screen. But i needed to click the Back button that was on the Tablet...then Home button and fiddle with it..an then i got it to come back. Its like on phones..when ur touch screen breaks..you use the scroll ball.

Nextbook Premium 9

Has anyone heard of the Nextbook Premium 9? I am trying to root it, but have been unsuccessful with all of the current rooting tools (z4root, Androot etc) and have been searching the internet for anyone who has found a successful method for rooting.
any help would be greatly appreciated.

Trying to root the nextbook premium 9 tablet
HEY BRO HOW ARE YOU MY NAME IS CLAY I AM IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL THE REAL ANDROID MARKET BUT IT SEEMS THE ONLY WAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS BY ROOTING THE TABLET SO I HAVE BEEN TEARING THE WEB APART TRYING TO FIND ROOT FOR THIS BAD BOY ANY WHO I DID FIND A COUPLE THINGS YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LIKE MOBILES24.COM ITS A APP STORE JUST SIGN UP AND YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANY APP THE HAVE FOR ANDROID AND YOU CAN GO TO SYNDICATE APPS.COM AMD DOWNLOAD ICS 4.0 LAUNCHER ITS PRETTY AWESOME JUST WHEN YOU GOOGLE IT AND IT GIVES YOU THE SELECTION LIST OF WEB SITES CLICK LAUNCHER ON THE VERY FIRST ONE AFTER THAT CLICK ON RELEASES AND CLICK THE BOTTOM CHOICE ICS 4.0 ITS A STABLE BUILD AND COOL TO MESS WITH ON YOUR TABLET JUST FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS FOR DOWNLOADING IT I HOPE YOU LIKE OH YEAH IT IS A APK DOWNLOAD SO ITS EASY TO INSTALL ONCE YOU HAVE GO TO LAUNCHER SETTINGS AND ADJUST THE WAY YOU SEE FIT BUT BAK TO THE PROBLEM AT HAND ROOTING OUR TABLET IVE TRYED EVERYTHING YOU LISTED AS WELL AND NO LUCK PLEASE HELP ME IF YOU CAN AND EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU FIGURE A WAY TO GET ROOTED AND OR INSTALL THE ANDROID MARKET THANKS BRO AND GOD BLESS YOU

Is there any hope for rooting the Nextbook Premium 9?
I have a new Nextbook Premium 9, and it has been limited very tightly by Efun, and I cannot find where anyone that has posted on the Internet has managed to root it. The problem is the tight memory limitations (kills me having that much free space on the device and no access to it).
I have done all that I know to do: add a 32gb micro-sdcard, and used ADB to install some stubborn apks, and set the preferred target of installations and data to the sdcard. I moved everything over that can be moved (it has Android 2.3.1). I cannot fit the apps that I really need all at the same time. I can uninstall and reinstall from the backups on the card... a pain, and it limits its usefulness.
Not having Market is a pain, but I can live with that with help from Amazon and others. But it doesn't do me a lot of good as tightly locked down as it is. I have an Onda VX610W coming (if DHL ever decides to move it out of Hong Kong to me) with ICS already installed, but its too small for what I am using the NextbookP9 to do. I need the Nextbook for my presentations. It has the larger screen, and I just need it.
Please, is there anyone who can help me or who can point me in the right direction. I need help with this one. Thanks in advance.
Jim aka FireStorm

Simular situation. A friend tried to root his with the 8p's root. While it worked the touchscreen doesnt work.
So how do I go about figuring out what driver I should compile and throw in the image?

I am still looking for a way to root the Nextbook Premium 9
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim

firestorm005 said:
The Nextbook Premium series are rebranded Kohotech Tablets, and I think I am about to dive into the nightmare of trying to get technical support from a Chinese company. Efun is 'less than' helpful, and the response I got to the request for help left me gritting my teeth. They are selling the new 10 inch Kohotech that carries Android 4 ICS. This is done before they fulfill their promise to upgrade the other Premiums to ICS. That would help, but not solve the memory problems.
I bought the Onda VX610W I mentioned, and even though the Nextbook has a superior resolution than the Onda and a camera, the Onda flies circles around it in performance. It came pre-rooted from the company I bought it from.
The Onda has ICS and the Nextbook Gingerbread, and the processor of the Onda is an Allwinner A10 (faster than I expected). The Onda came with 8gb internal memory (I have a 32gb micro-sdcard due here tomorrow), and the Nextbook came with 4gb and has an external 32gb sdcard. But the majority of the Nextbook's internal memory is untouched, with no way to move anything over to ROM without rooting. When you see the performance side by side, the difference kind of hurts when you consider what is in the Nextbook.
I think though, most of the operational difference has to do with the fact that the Nextbook is so walled up that it is difficult to access its memory and other parts of its hardware (having difficulties using its magnetometer). It just doesn't have enough memory to function well, and most of it just sits there idle.
I have a 32gb micro-sdcard in it, and have used the Android Debugger to have it default to moving a lot of the apps to the sdcard instead of internal memory when installed. It helps, but it is continually slowing or locking on operations that should not bottleneck it (doesn't matter if they are in internal memory or the external sdcard). I have to push the reset at least twice per day. What I am doing on it should give it no great grief, but it does. The Onda makes the problems with the Nextbook all the more obvious. The problem is that the screen on the Onda is going to finish making me blind I think. I need the Nextbook. I don't really want to have to consider this a wasted tablet.
I understand from other discussions that the Premium 9 is very brick-resistant. Its a good thing, because I am ready to experiment. If I just want to watch a movie, its okay... but if I try to really use it, it works about 1/4 of the time. It has good hardware, but it is just so walled up. Nooks are apparently easier to root than these.
If anyone can help, I would really, really appreciate it.
Jim
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I have a rooted android running on the 9P ... just need touchscreen drivers for it

When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
UPDATE: For some reason, the permissions on this page suddenly would not let me post a reply, which I really need to do. Finless on Freaktab.com has produced a working custom rooted rom for the NEXTBOOK PREMIUM 9. He also included the original stock rom in case of emergencies. I have not tried it, but according to others, it works. I just finished downloading the files and will try it tomorrow after a nap.
I request permission to post a new reply in this thread. If you will let me, I will post a link to the thread found on Freaktabs that has the solution. I will first try out the ROM myself though. I was about to sell this thing to a friend in frustration.
It has such a beautiful display, I think I'll keep it with the 1gb USER APP space and access to Google Play that he gave it. He said he could do more, but 1 gb will make the thing workable... especially since he got rid of the bloatware bogging it down. But there is hope for the Premium9 users now. I sent tech support at Nextbook an inquiry about upgrades to ICS as there was some real indication of an upgrade. They said no plans were in the works for upgrading the very bogged down unrooted Gingerbread ROM it comes with. GET THIS: they suggested that I buy one of their "new" series of tablets (like... 5 months after the Premiums hit the market) instead. Hey, just forget the $200 or so dollar investment and buy a newer one with ICS from us... also unrooted. No thank you. I have an Archos on the way and own an Onda. I don't think I want another unrooted bogged down tablet from Nextbook after just getting this one. Except for having 4gb instead of 8gb memory, the hardware in the thing is pretty sound. But it was the locked down rom that made it a misery to use. If it works out, I will post the results.

firestorm005 said:
When you get it running... touchscreen and all, then please contact me again. I need the help. I have run into a glitch on the Onda and it is consuming my time right now... trying to avoid reflashing it, but it seems the best option. I can't keep my little hands off of things when they are working just fine it seems... always trying to find out what can work better. Its a life-long trend, and at this point it seems kind of useless to try and stop.
Anyway, whenever I find out why I have wifi connectivity and no network interface on the Onda, I am going to switch my focus back to the Nextbook. It is actually running better than it has run before because I unloaded a lot of nice apps to give it more breathing room. But it kind of sacrificed the purpose to which I got it. There is no balanced compromise with that one... I have to root it when it is possible, to free up memory and maybe to upgrade past Gingerbread. They are offering the new 10 inch tablet with ICS installed right now. I checked with Kohotech, and there is almost no difference in the Nextbook 9 and 10... even more alike than the 8 and 9, but ICS changes it a lot.
I have a device running 2.1, 2.3 and 4.0, and let me tell you... despite the obvious similarities of them all being Android, the 4.0 does some neat things the others just can't, and it is smoother.
Got to start with rooting the thing, though.
If you get the screen working, then I would like to hear more about it... thanks.
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Certinally. Because this was passed to me I was responsible for returning a working device TODAY so I ended up buying a brand new one >.>

Any news regarding this Nextbook Premium 9 root + market? I will receive one this week but... it seems that I will regret having it...
It would be awsome if some dev put his hands on one...

I also own a Next9P and also would like option of rooting this device... Are there any devs. mildly interested in working on this... I have some limited funds if it would help.
Sent from my NXM908HC using xda premium

Me too please....
Just tring to keep this topic alive as I would like to see developement on this platform myself. I got my hands one one of these lately.
I have managed to get a rom dump of the Nextbook Next9 NXM908HC
The romdump (done through adb) reported successful dump all exept config.gz where I wound up with 0 bytes. I read over there that the custom rom for the Next8p runs on the 9p but drivers are wrong for the digitizer on the 9p.
Here is a link for the dump on the Next9 NXM908HC if there are any takers for making a custom rom out of it.
http://isurf2.com/droidwork/next9/
A cyanogenmod7 version for it would be much appreciated, but I wont hold my breath.
--Brink

thanks for the dump. I will see what I can do over the next week.

If someone knows how to root...
If someone knew how to root this tablet maybe I could get a dump with the config.gz intact.

For those looking for rooted nextbook9
Head on over to freaktab.com. A fella that goes by Finless (administrator) AKA Bob has done us all a great service by putting together a rooted, debloated nextbook9 ROM.
I have tested it on my nextbook9 and found that it works.
BTW: When he says debloated he means it. This is positively the most stripped down ROM I have ever seen and I've been flashing custom builds since the windows mobile6 days.
If you found this information useful, don't forget to click the thanks button.
--Brink
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Inside the custom rom found on that page at freaktab.com look for app injector. This takes care of the too stripped down to be usefull. With that you can add the market (Play Store) gapps and the other apps that come with the stock rom.
--Brink

I tried the ROM from Freaktab and it worked great. My 9P is rooted, I have the full android market. The ROM utilizes more memory, boots faster, and seems to run apps faster. What more can you ask for?!
So go to the link posted by Brinkley... Oh and BTW, thanks Brinkley, I followed the link from your post and that is why my P9 is now rooted.
Cheers, TooSlow

the freaktab rom is ginger not ics is there a root/debloat rom for ics ?

I have the Nextbook P10SE. I just flashed a few different ROMS for it, including a JB rom. only problem is, inverted screen and touch.
which of course renders it useless. Finless rom has the touch correct, but the image is rotated 180 degrees.
the JB rom found here on XDA (look for Rockchip ROM) has the screen oriented correctly but the touch is rotated 180 degrees
sigh.

try kingo root, that software does root almost every device that i know of. i have been there with a device that is unknown or limited and you cant find any thing at all, thats why i start to build my own stuff. Try kingo root that would be first step and then cwm .

Envizen Android 4.0 ICS 7" Capacitive Multi-Touch Tablet

Just thought some of my fellow xda mates might like to see this.
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhiQZE4_VE&feature=digest_mon
MOD EDIT: REMOVED COMMERCIAL LINKS

Ill pass.. Ill keep my Gtab

The specs do not impress.
Watching him futz his way though the test was interesting. That device was lagging all over the place.
I might get one to feed to my Nook Tablet though.

I've just traded my 7" Galaxy Tab for a 10" one. Think I'll stick with that

Envizen Digital, 7"
Hi Friends,
I Have one of these Tablets running ICS.
What i would prefer to have is 2.3 -- does anybody have any recommendations on how I to do this?? If there's any how-to guides please let me know.
What i would like to do is extract the factory image and archive then download the 2.3 rom to install. I will need to know where to download the 2.3 and the
required tools. Please... anything... there's not much info on this anywhere.
Thanks!

jdkoops said:
Hi Friends,
I Have one of these Tablets running ICS.
What i would prefer to have is 2.3 -- does anybody have any recommendations on how I to do this?? If there's any how-to guides please let me know.
What i would like to do is extract the factory image and archive then download the 2.3 rom to install. I will need to know where to download the 2.3 and the
required tools. Please... anything... there's not much info on this anywhere.
Thanks!
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New Android 4.0.3 tablet. What's the performance?

but ther's too bugs. Galaxy fit 5670

the performance looks great .

Not great, you certainly get what you pay for ($129 @ NCIX when I grabbed it). The market is also locked down to somewhere not NA, so app availability is limited, moreso considering it posts as a "Unknown v700b".
It works well as a media station, 1080p content lagginess over HDMI is barely discernible. So I won't be using it to play any games, but it works alright for media/web access. ConnectBot doesn't exactly require much though, so YMMV.
The USB host is handy, MicroSD support up to 32G should be standard on all tablets IMO, lack of real camera isn't really that annoying for my usage.
Resolution is 800x480, so there's some interesting skewing when it's rotated in portrait mode, but nothing major.
Biggest issue I've seen thus far is an apparent lack of community support, but for a sub-par tablet from a company I haven't heard much of, that's not surprising.
I've tried a few of the RK29 root procedures out there, though without the firmware image it's proving more than a little difficult. I posted a thread on the Mediasonic (NA distributor?) forum about the availability of the ROM, and have followed up with an email to Envizen themselves without a response as of yet.
I'll post more info if I receive it, but would love to know if someone else has successfully rooted this little machine. Would be great to get the Synergy port working on it, not to mention all the other fun root-required apps.

JerasAkdra said:
Not great, you certainly get what you pay for ($129 @ NCIX when I grabbed it). The market is also locked down to somewhere not NA, so app availability is limited, moreso considering it posts as a "Unknown v700b".
It works well as a media station, 1080p content lagginess over HDMI is barely discernible. So I won't be using it to play any games, but it works alright for media/web access. ConnectBot doesn't exactly require much though, so YMMV.
The USB host is handy, MicroSD support up to 32G should be standard on all tablets IMO, lack of real camera isn't really that annoying for my usage.
Resolution is 800x480, so there's some interesting skewing when it's rotated in portrait mode, but nothing major.
Biggest issue I've seen thus far is an apparent lack of community support, but for a sub-par tablet from a company I haven't heard much of, that's not surprising.
I've tried a few of the RK29 root procedures out there, though without the firmware image it's proving more than a little difficult. I posted a thread on the Mediasonic (NA distributor?) forum about the availability of the ROM, and have followed up with an email to Envizen themselves without a response as of yet.
I'll post more info if I receive it, but would love to know if someone else has successfully rooted this little machine. Would be great to get the Synergy port working on it, not to mention all the other fun root-required apps.
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I have one, it lives in the underwear drawer. The 1 good thing is it comes rooted, stock. They have a website and suport, if you can call it that
. Glad I only paid $99. for it.

Fire Witch said:
I have one, it lives in the underwear drawer. The 1 good thing is it comes rooted, stock. They have a website and suport, if you can call it that
. Glad I only paid $99. for it.
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Could you please elaborate? This Envizen is my first Android anything but I've tried to run root-required applications and I get a not rooted error. And I read the very little there is in the three threads mentioning rooting, in which two try to expain with one more a rant against anyone not using a unix based home computer than doing any explaining and the other being less than informative -to me, at least. I did try to follow and perform what I could decipher but I use XP and Win7, not any version if unix (and I haven't worked with a unix based computer in years so am not even that familiar with commands any longer) and I was not successful in obtaining root. I installed the necessary command application to run root commands but again the error was I did not have root access/authority.
If you would, could you please explain as if I'd never heard of Unix, newbie level? More persons than myself would be very appreciative. Thanks in advance. -Michael