If i were to flash my inspire 4g with CM7 rom and say flash the inspire 4g with a radio and ril from dhd,would that mean i am able to use the inspire 4g with the 3g frequency being used in europe and the rest of asia?
I understand that the 3g frequency used by at&t(850/1900) is different from the rest of the world,say singapore or france(2100) of course by flashing a dhd radio,i lose 4g connectivity but thats fine by me since i like experimenting.
i understand also that most htc phones are quad band and i4g's hardware is not that much different than dhd.
Is what i suggesting possible?or this is a hardware issue rather than a software issue.
The frequencies depends on the hardware
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Is it possible to get 4g on a non 4g phone, I was interested to know if has to do something with the radio, or do non 4g phones, just don't have the hardware to accomplish that task?
Yes its hardware dependent. Its the radio chip that's on the board has to have the frequencies for that carrier.
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Yeah my buddy has a Captivate that he put a 4G modem on and he gets faster speeds sometimes, but I doubt it fully uses the capabilities of 4G.
I tried searching but I couldn't find anything that would help me to be the wiser. What differs the 4G version and the 3G version <- which I have?
Is it possible to turn a 3G to a 4G? Is it just drivers or physical hardware that differs them?
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its just an icon on the sensation...... besides the band differences on the couple versions out there they are all the same!
but on a realistic level, there is hardware that makes the difference from a 'TRUE' 4G to a 3G device
'h' is 3g
So my European bought Sensation won't be able to run 4G ever?
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So my European bought Sensation won't be able to run 4G ever?
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Well. You see, the T-Mobile 4G isn't even 4G its actually 3G they just call it 4G.. So "H" is basically "4G" for T-Mobile users. So don't worry, you're not missing out on anything. It's just an icon
All current 4G is not true 4G. But it is marketed as such. That's not the question here.
3g can do up to about 3mbs on average. It uses a different radio spectrum than 4G phones.
For example my sensation hits 5mbs while my wifes 3g Samsung Galaxy S can only reach 300kps to 600kps when compared side by side. It will depend on your proximity to the tower, but my real world tests were done side by side so hopefully that helps you. Don't take my advice though, go to your nearest store and run the comparison yourself!
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Hello all as the title suggests I am wondering if flashing a european RUU to my T-Mobile Sensation 4G (USA), will disable the 4G access?. I came to this question because the European Sensation or the Sensation Z710e, doesn't have 4G capabilities. Thanks in advance for any answer
You mean, the non-TMOUS Sensations don't have the 4G branding. The capabilities are the same.
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You mean, the non-TMOUS Sensations don't have the 4G branding. The capabilities are the same.
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So my TMOUS Sensation 4G will still have 4G Capabilities when I switch to a Europe RUU, correct?. Just trying to clarify thank you btw
Hspa+ is tmos "4G" but it is not 4G in the true sense. It's more like 3.5G. t mobile 4G is purely a marketing term and means nothing as far as speed of the phone. It is the same as the european version in every way.
Hi, if I flashed a radio meant for 900/1700/2100 frequency on a Sensation from Bell Canada (using 850/1900), will it work with T-Mobile/Wind/Mobicility (on AWS)?
can you provide more info? which radio are you trying to flash? what rom and radio are you using? etc
from my understanding, there is no right or wrong radio for each sensation. they are universal. some may work better than others depending on your carrier and region.
From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
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From my understanding, there are two versions of the sensation, z710a and z710e.
z710a (850/1900) is for North America (Bell Canada), whereas z710e (900/1700/2100) is for international plus T-Mobile.
What I was wondering was if you flashed a radio meant for z710e on a z710a, will you get the 900/1700/2100 frequencies?
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no, each phone variant has built in frequencies which cannot be changed via flashing a radio. radios dont have anything to do with frequencies. they just help with signal strength. the frequencies (850/1900 etc) tell you whether you get 3/4g service, which depends on your carrier
I just thought that the sensation might be one of those phones where the manufacturer locks out some frequency to suit the carriers supplied. Just wondering if somebody out there tried it out by flashing different radios to see if it's really a hardware limitation.
So what's att at for there 3g vs tmob
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I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
I am not posting this question in Android Revolution HD ROM forum because this question is applicable to any custom ROM. Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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Whilst you can run the have the same ROM and Radio versions on both phones you cannot convert Z710a <-> Z710e. They have different hardware for the data frequencies.
So in simple terms if your wife want's full 3G functionality she'll need a new phone. She'll still have Voice and Edge though.
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I have a HTC Sensation Z710e rooted and S-off with custom "Android Revolution HD" ICS ROM. My wife has a HTC Sensation Z710a with an official ICS ROM. We are both on dinosaur Rogers network that gauges on its clients planning to switch over to WindMobile. The problem we are having is that my wife's Sensation won't work on WindMobile network. It's because WindMobile operates on AWS 1700 band that is supported by Z710e model (HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100) but not by Z710a (HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100).
Going trough all different threads in Sensation forums I am getting lot of conflicting info so my question is; if I root, S-off and install Android Revolution HD ROM that comes with it's own radio and essentially converts regular Sensation in to Sensation XE; will my wife's Sensation Z710a be able to support AWS 1700 band as well?
Is it only software (firmware, baseband, radio) or actual hardware that differentiates Z710e and Z710a models? Both my wife's and mine phone look exactly the same unbranded HTC Sensations...
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Hello, I'm from Argentina and I have an almost unused Z710e, if you want we can change if your wife is in the same state, greetings.
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Whilst you can run the have the same ROM and Radio versions on both phones you cannot convert Z710a <-> Z710e. They have different hardware for the data frequencies.
So in simple terms if your wife want's full 3G functionality she'll need a new phone. She'll still have Voice and Edge though.
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We were testing the functionality of both phones in WindMobile store and my wife's phone only connected to their roaming partners. I am not sure if above mentioned company even utilizes regular GSM frequencies... Perhaps the reason why they are so affordable is that they run VOIP all the time as long you are connected to theirs network. So although we spend 99% of the time in their coverage area, she would be paying roaming for everything (voice, text, data).
I am getting some info in different thread that I will try to act upon and see how it works. I am really desperate to cut all my ties with Rogers. I used to have cable TV and internet with them as well (now cancelled) but they keep on screwing customers more and more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32029294&postcount=1359
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Hello, I'm from Argentina and I have an almost unused Z710e, if you want we can change if your wife is in the same state, greetings.
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That perhaps would be the best thing to do in order to get what I am trying to achieve. My wife's phone is only 2 months old, essentially new...
I've decided to purchase last year's model for her because although being fan of HTC products I would never buy a cellphone without mSD slot (that's what I've hated about my HTC Diamond before). I am just a bit worried about possible issues shipping phones back and forth between Canada and Argentina. Is there someone in Ontario, Canada interested to trade Z710e for Z710a?
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We were testing the functionality of both phones in WindMobile store and my wife's phone only connected to their roaming partners. I am not sure if above mentioned company even utilizes regular GSM frequencies... Perhaps the reason why they are so affordable is that they run VOIP all the time as long you are connected to theirs network. So although we spend 99% of the time in their coverage area, she would be paying roaming for everything (voice, text, data).
I am getting some info in different thread that I will try to act upon and see how it works. I am really desperate to cut all my ties with Rogers. I used to have cable TV and internet with them as well (now cancelled) but they keep on screwing customers more and more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32029294&postcount=1359
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GSM (voice) will work fine for both phones on all networks as will EDGE (2G data) on all networks, the issue is the 3G data side of things. So I don't know why GSM doesn't work it certainly should. They both have: Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. The Z710a/Z710e difference is purely in the 3G side of things.
Re-reading your post, ahhhh VOIP == Data usage. If they purely use VOIP then you're stuffed, I'd be surprised though but I can't comment on that network.
Have a look at: http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
Then Network Compatibility -- Canada
Unfortunately they seem to have removed the Z710e phone, just invert the 3G ticks/crosses for it.