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Ok, so I'm pretty new to this whole Android thing, but I'm not daft and know a think or two about computers and software, so I'm not a complete 'noob'...
However, to spare me the drama of trawling through thousands of pages, I have a few quick concise questions, and would appreciate concise answers.
So I bought a generic handset, branded as an Onyx Dragon though AnTuTu benchmark app tells me its a Yusu... details and specs from Chinavision.com (search Onyx Dragon).
I initially bought it because I needed a new phone (been on a Moto V3 Razr for about 6 years!) so got this cos it was cheap and looked good. Runs Froyo on what I have found to be pretty **** hardware (MT6516, advertised as 416MHz but shown to be around 207MHz, but not sure if this is main CPU or radio core...) with not a lot of RAM. I installed an 8Gb SD card to save the apps and keep as much free internal space as possible, in case the OS supports disc memory (?). The wireless is good and screen works well, but the GPS, navigation and camera are rubbish, but they are not why I bought it; I have a decent camera and I can read a map. Its definitely 'entry level' so I'm not too bothered if I brick it.
Since I got it, and seeing the many cheap 'clones' out there, I'm keen to get into them a bit more and start developing. I already rooted it with z4root, BusyBox and Superuser all installed fine. ROM Manager is running but because I don't know the actual brand I'm not yet running ClockWorkMod (doesn't show up in the list). I'm keen to install Gingerbread or maybe even CyanogenMod 7, but cannot flash the ROM without CWM. Can anyone tell me what phone 'model' I should use for this particular handset?
I can't overclock the chipset, but have been looking at other clones to play with, such as htc Incredible G11i Pro clone from etotalk.com and 'CyberStar' 3G handset with MT6573 650MHz chipset (also from Chinavision).
Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with these clones? They look great and if they work as well as the budget model I have now then there is certainly potential. Sure, they may not be as good as a genuine Galaxy or Nexus, but then the price reflects that. However, as a cheap development platform you can't really go wrong! I'd like to see faster processors and more hardware mod ability such as clocking, just to see what is possible. Anyone tried ICS on one of these? I read elsewhere that if Froyo runs ok on a cheap device then GB should be better. My friend has GB 2.3.3 on a genuine $500 Galaxy S2 and I'd love to show him up with a rooted and clocked clone running ICS for a fraction of the price!!
Well, thats not as concise as I would like, but it covers pretty much everything. One last thing though, I cannot install ES File Explorer 1.6.1, it will download from Market and attempt to install but then fail. The latest version I have is the pre-installed 1.4.2.2. I've tried everything I can think of; downloading on my Mac and copying via USB to install from Astro making sure ES is not running, failed. Tried uninstalling ES with ROM Toolbox having root access and disabled AVG, failed. Tried to launch new version from package options, failed. I have installed ES Task Manager v1.2 but cannot use all the features as it says File Explorer needs to be updated, and needless to say updating it from the prompts failed as well... Any ideas? I'm thinking a flash to GB should include the latest version (or better alternative).
Thanks all in advance!
I don't think it's possible to run ICS on such a low spec'd device. This onyx dragon runs on a 416Mhz ARM9 processor with a 200 Mhz ARM7 GPU. Even the G1 that uses a 528Mhz ARM11 CPU can't run ICS well. I would suggest that you give up on theses crappy chineses devices. If you don't have money you can find a LG Optimus One for 100 bucks on ebay and it is A LOT better than any of these chinese crap phones
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For CWM, take a look at this site http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html and the quote below
Don't see your phone? Email me if you want to help me get it working!
And of course, all the source can be found on Github.
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Yes you are right about honeycomb. As for the device. Without kernel source which will never be released due to copyright issues you may have a bit of trouble Modding it. CM only supports authentic devices and not clones as the hardware specs as you learned are faked and never true.
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hi droidscope,
Not all the Chinese phones are crap there are a few very capable phones now entering the market and they are catching up the bigboys rapidly.
For more info & reviews on the latest Chinese phones check over here http://www.gizchina.com/category/phones/ Try to stick with the branded chinese phones such as Zopo, ZTE, Newman etc because there is at least some support where as the direct copy/clones have no support at all. If buying try to get the phone pre rooted because some of the Chinese phone are getting more difficult to root. I would look here http://www.etotalk.com/ if buying and select the MOD ROM $4.99 for most phones then the phone will come pre rooted with working playstore language etc. They do not 1 to 1 copys although some of the phones have more than a passing look of some of the more famous brands. I have used them a few times and they have not let me down be sure to email them first to ask about stock levels though.
hey we are requesting for a new forum of Samsung Galaxy S II HD Lte, any news?
we need costumed ROM here
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Sup with the mods ?
+1 Vote,
I've reached out to two mods already....come on mods.... cut us some slack here.
See my forum for the TeamLeader 1.2 rom, its just a bit custom from the stock rom but pretty stable.
://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22093503 << add http infront enjoy
I think we need a forum for this wonderful phone even if the number of users still aren't a lot!
This phone is really wonderful
Vote for the idea!
Come on....
i just dont understand why we still dont have a forum for the most powerful phone on market today, already months waiting for it there is some customized rom out there, and in XDA nothing. we need a forum for our "beast" here to speed-up things.
hope administrator can give us some space here...
we need our forum here 4.65-inch display with 1280 x 720 pixel resolution, 1.5GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon processor with 1 GB of RAM, 8-megapixel rear camera with 1080p HD recording.
I'd like to add my voice to this request.
I've just received this great little phone, fired it up and it's amazing...
sticking with mostly stock things for now (other than my usual apps) and since it's mostly in Korean.. I'd LOVE some roms for it... ICS would be lovely
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I'm using this phone, too. The phone is really great.
It's very difficult too find roms and howtos about this phone.
I hope there will be a forum for this phone.
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im i agree with you peaple^^ i just bought this phone yesterday~ and is amazing!!! but i really want to try others custom rooms~
I agree. I bought the non HD version but it is just a sweet (model SHV-E110S) and I woudl love some customization. Hell Id even pay for some. I am by no means a phone expert but I am running gingerbread FB13 on it and if someone needs a copy of it and can point me in the direction of how to pull from phone or where Kies stored it on my computer id happily send it.
Mike
P.S how about an Icon for beer....way off subject I know
Yes, we really need a forum for that kind of phone !
Hey guys, as the proud owner of a SG s2HD LTE. I would like to let you other guys know you can run most of the app's that the android market says are "incompatible". The way to do this is to install Snappz Market, find games like Order and Chaos HD and install (all free on this market), Order and Chaos HD runs very well, the phone does an incredible job running all games!
we really need a forum special for our S II HD LTE
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+1 Vote!! Really appreciate if the Mods can release us spare space...
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+1 vote... hope modders out there will spare some of there time to discover the potential of this very interesting phone. Much better than the SGS II i9100.
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Hey everyone. I hope this is the right place, but i couldnt find an android head unit thread lol.
So I've been looking at THIS as an option for my 2012 Chevrolet Cruze. I have the stock deck with no extras but AUX. I plan on having this car until it dies so I would love to invest in something like this. The reason I chose this one as its the only one i found running a relatively "newer" version of android and its stock, No launchers or themes. My biggest concern is that CPU. I can't seem to find ANY info on the "Tcc8925 1.2G dual core" cpu. Can anyone give me some insight into its performance etc? RAM seems like it will be more than enough for what I need. My plan is to use Car Home Ultra with everything I need right there, completely customized. I have contacted the seller to make sure its plug and play with my NA Cruze.
If I could root this thing, or unlock the BL and get a good ROM running on it I would be in heaven!
Thanks!
Anyone? Lol
check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087886
im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.
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im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.
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Is this phone sold in country, or are you going to import it from china? Because if not, I would not recommend you a chinese phone. If it is defective you'll have a hard time returning it (if you can at all) etc.
Btw, if you come from iPhone, I strongly recommend you Google-listed devices (assume you live in the US, it would be HTC One, Nexus 5, SGS4) that come with the stock Android UI. They are updated as soon Google pushes out updates, which is closer what you experience on the iPhone.
Since chinese phones except for Huawei ones are rarely supported in XDA (they lack documentation, source etc) I would not recommend you a chinese phone if you want to try out new ROMs.
If you are ready to take the risks there you go. But as a first time Android user, no way I would go with that phone.
My recommendation for you is the Nexus 5. Hope this helps.
i have to import from china. im a symbian user im sorry i forgot to mentioned where i live. im from sri lanka and no play store available. no way to get a nexus 5. even if somehow managed get my hands on a nexus 5 it would costs me around 550-600$.
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i have to import from china. im a symbian user im sorry i forgot to mentioned where i live. im from sri lanka and no play store available. no way to get a nexus 5. even if somehow managed get my hands on a nexus 5 it would costs me around 550-600$.
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If it has to be a chinese phone then I suggest you the Xiaomi Mi3. Great User Interface (MIUI), great update support and best hardware for little money. Xiaomi is also highley popular, it is being regarded like Apple in china.
Go straight for Nubia, it has the best specs out there and far away the best price. I just order it btw.
jasonx3 said:
im looking at ZTE Nubia Z5S (NX503A) got some nice specs for 400$ price tag.
5.0 inches, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, 2GB ram, 16GB, 13MP camera, andriod 4.2.2 etc..
i have never used android phone before so im hoping u guys can help me. i did some googling and didnt find any roms or any other modifications usually go with a andriod device.
i would like to know if this is a worth buying since this phone only available in china.
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Good question, in deed I just got a Nubia z5s 3 weeks ago.
(I used to be a Moto supporter, but got disappointed by Moto's sales policy - however, CDMA users can hardly have so many choices as others. forget HTC, bad quality.)
Somebody mentioned Xiaomi, I don't think it's a good option. Nubia's hardware spec is almost the same as Xiaomi, but Xiaomi's shipment and sales policy will drive you crazy. You have to attend to a luck draw first, then could have a chance to buy one!
Regarding the experience, herein I only talk about my experience.
1. BATTERY:
From 7am to 10pm, medium use, about 75% is consumed.
2. DISPLAY:
Much better than MOTO X :laugh: , 1080p. Also, the color is not so cold as Samsung.
3. VOICE&MESSAGE:
Fairly clear, however the location of Mic is just under USB port. sometimes your finger could swipe it when picking up.
As CM user, very delighted to see vibrate setup in "settings", SMS also designed with popup
4. CAMERA
I didn't test too much. However, the respond speed is satisfying.
5. SOFTWARE
a. I have to acknowledge that the UI design is lower than my expectation, especially the icons. Styles in default apps and system UI are not actually unique. But most Androider will change the launcher at soonest, am I right? (ps. I really hate Samsung's UI and the screen density!)
b. Furthermore, the system compatibility...there's no surprise, also no fetal bugs.
c. Seemed Nubia team learnt a lot from CM team. They just released source CODE on their website.
d. It can be ROOTED easily.
e. Some local team has ported CWM RECOVERY on it. Nice job!
f. It's said MIUI by local team is on the way. Also, some guy is working on its AOSP now.
6. AUDIO
Sorry but I never play songs via cell phone. Somebody has idea?
7. DESIGNING
I spent almost one week to get familiar with the weight - it's too light
8. NETWORK
GSM/TD/CDMA, not sure if it can be used in Verizon network?
In conclusion, it didn't disappoint me. I'd be delighted to see more improvements or 3rd party's works on ROMs in near future.
Guys, is this phone suitable for the dutch network and.if flashed with multi language you can use dutch language?
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canizares said:
As CM user, very delighted to see vibrate setup in "settings", SMS also designed with popup
In conclusion, it didn't disappoint me. I'd be delighted to see more improvements or 3rd party's works on ROMs in near future.
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thank you. this answered lots of questions i had. specially custom roms.
and im assuming "As a CM user" u meant cyanogenmod? can u provide me with the links. i've been searching google, here and cyanogenmod site for sometime now and all i was able find was how to root it. its it was all in chinese
Guys, is this phone suitable for the dutch network and.if flashed with multi language you can use dutch language?
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Z5s supports following bands
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 2100MHz TD-SCDMA BAND 34/39
CDMA2000 1X EVDO: 800MHz
TD-SCDMA: 1900M/2000M
as for the netherland bands depends on which carrier you are using so check them with what frequency they use. below is the list of bands used in your country (source gsmarena)
2G capabilities GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities UMTS 2100
4G capabilities LTE 800, 1800, 2600
Great news guy's! Get mine this weak bought at liaow ( great service they root it before shipping)
Grtz Ballgear
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how do you root the zte nubia z5s
Hi could you show me how you rooted the zte nubia z5s?
and how you installed clockworkmod on it
thanks
As far as i know there is no cwm for it ( not yet)
To root it search for vroot I
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ballgear said:
As far as i know there is no cwm for it ( not yet)
To root it search for vroot I
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how is your experience?
and ZTE just released upgraded Z5sn 32GB model
Hey Jasonx3
Its a great phone i think the hardware is a good mix Meizu/Xiaomi
The software/firmware could be beter but thats something Zte is working on, had the phone for a day & there was already a update available ota
The n version is i think the best model of the nubia $600,- ( liaow.com) Must say im very happy with it
Grtz Ballgear
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Hi there,
I just bought mine . But I can't put a CWM recovery into it Does anybody have any ideas...?
Thank you very much!!!!
Ssamf said:
Hi there,
I just bought mine . But I can't put a CWM recovery into it Does anybody have any ideas...?
Thank you very much!!!!
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Hi,
Do you like it? Will you let us know about your experience with the phone? Things like battery usage, performance, camera, gps speed etc etc
Thanks!
Tinus81 said:
Hi,
Do you like it? Will you let us know about your experience with the phone? Things like battery usage, performance, camera, gps speed etc etc
Thanks!
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Oh, I do like it I just don't have any idea how to root it ....
As soon as I found it out I will let you know!
Ssamf said:
Oh, I do like it I just don't have any idea how to root it ....
As soon as I found it out I will let you know!
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Look for Vroot ore htcui.com, cwm recovery is also available...
Like this phone very much!
Grtz Ballgear
ballgear said:
Look for Vroot ore htcui.com, cwm recovery is also available...
Like this phone very much!
Grtz Ballgear
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And do you have Play Store installed?
im still waiting for my phone to arrive, but i have seen CWM and Rooting on official Nubia forums. everything is in Chinese. if someone can translate and post here.
Google play works just install gapps 4.2.2 ( you need google framework )
For the Chinese forums use google translate thats how it works 4 me !
The kingnubia rom is recommended it got it all in 1 rom !
Grtzz
Hello,
apologies for posting right after joining.
I've been reading the forum's and was wondering on some input.
I'm interested in a few android TV sticks, and i am wondering if any one has one that successfully works with sky go out of the box?
if so could they recommend the model?, so i would buy this on peoples findings.
a couple of models i have seen are the cx919 and the mk808, but from reading here it looks like they are not compatible with sky go.
any input would be greatly appreciated.
kind regards
Apologies im not sure were this direct question would go in which sub forum?
ceet12 said:
Hello,
apologies for posting right after joining.
I've been reading the forum's and was wondering on some input.
I'm interested in a few android TV sticks, and i am wondering if any one has one that successfully works with sky go out of the box?
if so could they recommend the model?, so i would buy this on peoples findings.
a couple of models i have seen are the cx919 and the mk808, but from reading here it looks like they are not compatible with sky go.
any input would be greatly appreciated.
kind regards
Apologies im not sure were this direct question would go in which sub forum?
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Most android sticks come 'ROOTED' out of the box which apps such as Sky go don't like. So unless you can 'unRoot' your device in a way (apparently there are multiple ways to unroot) that would be compatible w/ Sky go you have very limited options.
Cheers, OP
optimus975 said:
Most android sticks come 'ROOTED' out of the box which apps such as Sky go don't like. So unless you can 'unRoot' your device in a way (apparently there are multiple ways to unroot) that would be compatible w/ Sky go you have very limited options.
Cheers, OP
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Thanks again optimus, hopefully if i choose one of the mentioned above there will be a way of doing it, regards
ps, do you own a android tv stick, if so do you recommend or have any preference on what's the best available?
if anyone still has any input on original question would be great full
thanks
ceet12 said:
Thanks again optimus, hopefully if i choose one of the mentioned above there will be a way of doing it, regards
ps, do you own a android tv stick, if so do you recommend or have any preference on what's the best available?
if anyone still has any input on original question would be great full
thanks
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any recommendations will depend on how much you want to spend and the form factor u need...I have a MK802III (dual-core, 1 GB Ram, Mali400 GPU)...pretty good for normal usage....
If you can spend upto $120 you can get a quad core, 2 GB stick such as MK802IV which should be almost twice as fast the one I have...
Also the android TV devices comes in two form factors - a TV stick with HDMI male port which goes straight into your TV and the other is a box form where you have a small box with cables flying out to your TV.
I personally prefer the TV sticks which are more compact and save on already cluttered TV backsides..
Cheers,
Which is best suited for android tv wireless mouse or air mouse.pls reply as soon as possible
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mannulko said:
Which is best suited for android tv wireless mouse or air mouse.pls reply as soon as possible
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I'm also keen to know which of these work best for Sky Go (and how best to unroot / mask root).