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[DEV Discussion] HD Mini Android/Linux Development Thread

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the possibilities of getting Android up and running on the HD Mini.
A word to the wise…porting Android is NOT easy, it took almost 1 year to get an (almost) fully working port for the HTC Touch Pro, and there were a LOT of really good Linux developers spending TONS of time on it. (The preceding sentence was paraphrased from this post by TheDeadCpu.)
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2/13/2011 Big News: Android / Linux port for PHOTON by Cotulla
Thanks to Cotulla for getting the ball rolling!

eh, it´s a new Phone, u sold some...days...weeks...ago..?!?!?! WTF u didn´t buy a android phone if u like one?

Gosh, maybe he wanted a HDmini sized phone and now he wants to get Android s/ware. Get people skills an stop hating

francomok421 said:
Any method can install android for HTC HD mini WM phone?
Thanks a lot!
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Me to!! Can't live with what's in the HD Mini, but most certainy I can live with the hardware. Anybody knowing how to androidize it?

I bought HD mini due to the outlook, size and weight!
Legend have poor taste and the shape is not good to store in pocket.
Frankly, WM is more easy to copy and edit the Word/Excel files from PC and I can check some files out of office easily.
And I just seek for any solutions for multi-boot with Android OS as Android looks better and I just want to try it and need not to buy another phone.
Cos I have one iPhone already, too many mobile phones~

When the evo rom arrives, it will be ported to hd2. I find it logical that it will be a android powered hd mini in the future. Then, it would be rather easier than now to create a custom android rom for hd mini But I should stick to reality.
The dual boot app for winmo devices isn't written for hd minis hvga resolution.
But hey, the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 does not have a android twin to take a rom from. I will put up a request for hd mini support for the android dual boot app.
The hd mini would have been a great android device!
Sorry for bad English.

Thanks gingerviking! I agree that the hardware is made for Android rather than wm6.5. I cross my finger for a rapid solution - WM is just not for me anymore..

Good news is that a genious has managed to get the linux bootloader to work on hd2 and playing a 720p video. An Android port will soon come to hd2 even without the evo rom
Hopefully the kernel system on hd2 isn`t all that different from the hd mini

Well. We're all looking forward to see a genious hacker who cares about the hd mini and android. =)

Don't know if it will work but you guys could give it a try cause it runs via haret:
w w w _dot_ neopeek.com/en/stories/android/75-update-android-fuer-htc-blackstone-diamond-tilt-raphael-rhodium-topaz-fuze
@XDA-Mods: after months of waiting! when will you update my account?

Anything else besides android that you guys might want??? how about some cookies along with it? lol if you wanted android why did you bought a windows mobile based device?? cause of haret? if you want android on your hd2 mini, yould need a working linux kernel, then you can worry about android, and its not that easy im not going over this again im tired of explaining to noobs that android is not a a program that you can simply install...it dosnt work that way.

rafyvitto said:
Anything else besides android that you guys might want???
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Android would be just enough

ATT HTC ARIA -- a dead ringer for HD MINI but with ANDROID?
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/

nickel911 said:
Does this mean an android rom won't be too far off?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-aria-goes-official-for-atandt-gets-toyed-with-on-video/
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No , them are different
Want android for hd mini , we need use Haret, not just port rom aria to hd mini

haret for hd photon exist ?

SoftWord said:
haret for hd photon exist ?
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Not yet i think, but i will get my touch in it soon
This week a bit busy
Tom

core of haret is a file called setup.txt where are stored parameters with rom/ram addresses, only thing to do is know this addresses.........

I hate you. Htc!
I have great news for all you people living in the US: Like the evo 4g with sprint(android version of hd2). At&t have released the htc aria, a true android clone of the hd mini. Just google it for more info.

Yes and, unfortunately for us, HTC Aria will be, and nowadays is, available only for USA market...
I want it in Italy!!!!!! Or maybe... someone which could "do" a complete Android ROM for the HD Mini, based on the Aria!?!?!? I wish it! I really want it...!
Because HD Mini is so pocketlly beautiful!!!!

its a company fault
we have went to market to get it and it was WM and now they have released HD Mini with Anderiod ,
so it is who's fault,
i hope anyone can give info how to get the rom of android for our hd mini (old) one

Wanted: Galaxy Spica Developer! :D

Hello, im so happy at last samsung galaxy spica have a new home here in XDA
forum. Since i've using this phone i found that samsung galaxy spica only have a
very small number of developer. What a pitty, since this phone have a huge
hardware potential like multi touch capable chip, even some forum found that
spica has a 256mb RAM chip but somehow only about 160mb active.
So im looking forward for developer to help us spica user to unleash true spica power..

theooo said:
Hello, im so happy at last samsung galaxy spica have a new home here in XDA
forum. Since i've using this phone i found that samsung galaxy spica only have a
very small number of developer. What a pitty, since this phone have a huge
hardware potential like multi touch capable chip, even some forum found that
spica has a 256mb RAM chip but somehow only about 160mb active.
So im looking forward for developer to help us spica user to unleash true spica power..
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not only the hardware i guess, lots of pepole were using samsung spica as it is, since the other android phones were highly priced....so samsung galaxy spica is a well balanced phone between price and ability
What Theoo means by looking forward for a developer to unleash samsung spica true power is not just an empty hope (i guess...)
I recently bought samsung galaxy spica and my first impression is............I DONT NEED ANY SMARTPHONE AGAIN
Hope there will be someone who can deliver samsung spica to its full potential

Infact its a really capable phone.But samsung has written poor divers for it.The 3D experience is horrible.
There are many good developers like leshaK who r working really hard for its development but developing a phone is not a one man's show.
As said above,the phone is capable of multi touch support,it has a 800mhz processor which can be well overclocked like in case of moment,it has a second microphone which seems to be of no use.
If some good developers work on making drivers for this powerful phone,we can use the full hardware capabilities of this phone.

anuragthehellboy said:
Infact its a really capable phone.But samsung has written poor divers for it.The 3D experience is horrible.
There are many good developers like leshaK who r working really hard for its development but developing a phone is not a one man's show.
As said above,the phone is capable of multi touch support,it has a 800mhz processor which can be well overclocked like in case of moment,it has a second microphone which seems to be of no use.
If some good developers work on making drivers for this powerful phone,we can use the full hardware capabilities of this phone.
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Yeah, like u said, its not one man show. Thats why i hope with our new home here @XDA, someone out there will be interested to develop driver or even roms for our spica. so in the future spica user will have many developer.

theooo said:
What a pitty, since this phone have a huge
hardware potential like multi touch capable chip, even some forum found that
spica has a 256mb RAM chip but somehow only about 160mb active.
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Could you please post the source/more info?

Is it Rooted?

G1BRICKED said:
Is it Rooted?
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It is Rooted

MoxFulda said:
Could you please post the source/more info?
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1. The Galaxy Spica has 256 MB RAM and 512 MB ROM. But only 146 was made visible to the OS.
2.It has a FM capable chip BCM4325, but was not implemented.
3.QT5480 chip is multitouch capable but was not implemented .(hopefully will work in android 2.x ROM)
U can look here for more information
bit.ly/bLcBcP
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Yes spica has the ability to update to 2.2.but samsung never update their old phone. I7500 for example. It's stop in 1.6.(official fw) .and samsung don't update spica. We have some good developers in samdroid. And leshak give us a 2.2.but not perfect . I hope xda developer can help us build a working 2.2. Our cpu s3c6410 support 3d but no drive. What a pity!
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Thankfully tom3q working on a brand new 3D driver, but he might be happy for a little a help.
Since he is writing the driver for froyo, I think now our first step must be a stable & working froyo on the spica!
If some developer would like to help in that, the actual state of development can be seen here: forum.samdroid.net/f9/dev-android-2-2-froyo-samsung-i5700-alpha-2-gprs-3g-wifi-11-07-2010-a-1408
P.S.
I would like to say thank you to the XDA Developer team for making the Spica forum!

Adding myself to the bunch of people looking forward to spica development...

Didn't expect to see Spica around here. I'm glad it's here now though, might catch the attention of developers. I agree with some of the people who have mentioned the Spica being crippled by Samsung's poor implementation and support for this device.
I bought the phone in May, and love it for the things that it can do. I just feel that it's too early for Samsung to drop it and move on to their newer phones. This phone has a lot of potential.
Props to Leshak for working hard to improve the Spica. I hope more devs can pitch in.

[Q] help me deciding these android babies

I want to purchase a phone but I am not sure which one to take-
here are my questions and help me clear these issues..ty..
I want to purchase a new android based touchscreen phone and I have narrowed down to htc desire, acer liquid ferrari and samsung galaxy S
I know all of these phones cater to a different niche altogether but I have a few basic questions regarding them... Are all of these having 3.5mm jacks ?
Can their ROMs be updated to Froyo especially for liquid e ferrari ?
Also which phone has the best sunlight legibility ?
Here are few specific questions -
Question 1 - htc desire is a gr8 all round fone.. So after doing an official FOTA from htc india website..
Can I root the phone and customize it with apps and other things then wat is d probability of messing things up ? And is it gonna run stable with a 16gb class 4 or above micro sdhc card ?? (sandisk or kingston)
Question 2 - acer liquid e ferrari is highly stylish phone and i love it to bits for the great paint job and everything.. But it has lots of useless apps and preloaded junk..
Can it be rooted and then flashed to a custom froyo based ROM ??? Is it possible coz no F0TA updates r there for froyo on this model by acer..
Question 3 - in casee of samsung galaxy s i've heard that its lag is reduced by rooting the phone and applying a lag fix.. Will this work with a custom froyo firmware ?
Thanks for patiently reading this and answering to these queries..
PS - sorry for the weird formatting was typed with nokia n97 in opera mini....

You could answer all of your own questions with a few minutes (maybe an hour or so) of using google and youtube. I just did a quick search around not even really trying and found out more information on some of this stuff than you even asked for.

Hmmm i agree but still i need some more help...
jagpoag said:
You could answer all of your own questions with a few minutes (maybe an hour or so) of using google and youtube. I just did a quick search around not even really trying and found out more information on some of this stuff than you even asked for.
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i agree that lot of stuff can be found if i properly research but i've got my university mid term exams going on so you can imagine im busy studying to improve my grades...
Also opening heavy webpages with a 2G network on an average speed of 120 kbps on this lousy n97 is tough...
I would greatly appreciate if you could 'rally a few specialists on the forum to my help'
It would save me a lot of time and tension...
Or you could answer a few of the questions according to all the research that you did, I would be very very indebted to you..
Thanks...

[Q] Can you all point me to a Reliable Fast and Supported Tablet?

So after the past week or so i have done some casual research. Looking thru various sites getting some not so reliable feedback i figured i would just ask at the top.... And i dont know why i didnt in the first place..
I am looking to get a Android Tablet when taxes come. Something not to expensive but not a cheap piece of junk either.
I am looking for something reliable, fast good graphics, a decent camera if possible certianly gps, wifi, bluetooth. I would like to dock it in my car for its Gps potential, and for movies and certianly its music capabilities (like power amp) and pandora last fm ect. I figured i would tether it to my Droid 2, and no i wont be watching movies on it thats more for my wife, friends ect.
I would defenatly want it to have the android market on it, wether i have to put it on there myself or if it was stock. I want to be able to play games like angry bird or whatever. Not just simple low end games but the potentintal to play anything i might want to..
And lastley i would like something that defenatly has some community backbone to it. Something that has been rooted, that people know and i can get reliable support on. I dont want to be running 1.6 on it it has to be like 2.0 or 2.2 and i can upgrade it. Something that runs really smoothly and has at least one decent rom.
I see some of these people who bought cheap tablets off ebay from Hong Kong or whatever and there having to scour the net just to find out what excatly it is called.. I dont really wana do that lol.
If i can find it locally great! If i got to order it off the net then so be it. I just want something that is open, reliale, smooth, fast and has some support behind it...
Sorry if this is the wrong section i looked for a overall tablet form but couldnt find one on XDA and i didnt want to post in every forum. If you have anylinks or even one u are thinking about buying like a link let me know id love to check it out!
Thanks Everyone!

Dude, get a NookColor! $249, supported in ROM Manager, and I'm sure soon to have full ROMs released..
It doesn't have a camera (but your Droid 2 does...) so that might be a deal breaker. It's not a tablet, it's an e-reader, but it's a neat little thing. I can't wait to see the development take off.
Other than that, the Motorola Xoom looks promising, but it's currently unreleased.
-pd

I would recommend the nook Color as well except for the fact that it is lacking a GPS. Therefore it does not fit into the car model. I have one for my son and it is a nice device.

The gps is kind of a nessisity for me, i could give up the camera but im stuck with the gps. But the nook or nook color is out for me. I see it as lacking later on because of its processor and it wasent built to be a tablet. I want something that will ride out for a few years if possible. It needs a 1 ghz prosessor and sufficent ram. And i got to have 2.2+ on it. And 7 inch minumum. Thank you for the suggestion thus far though

Consider the Archos 101 or 70.
Pretty sure it has everything.
There is a forum for it here too.

as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet

chachi said:
as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet
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Actually, Archos already has 2.2 with 1ghz
http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/specs.html?country=ca&lang=en
The RAM is not listed on that page but it would be easy to find out.
I'm just stepping out.
And there seems to be a GPS solution here http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=37910

Sry... what I meant was I want to run the most uptodate firmware I can so im kosher with 2.1 what im hoping to avoid is where I have seen a lot of them running 1.6. I've been thinking about archos but I just haven't heardb from anyone who ones a archos or a flytouch.. I would defenatly like to hear experiences... thanks again everyone
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Also and i forgot to mention it.. It has to have a Capacitive and Multitouch screen like my Droid X or Droid 2.... Does that FlyTouch have that? cause i cant seem to find any information pertaining to that.

no flytouch2 is not multitouch but otherwise i am more than happy with mine, best €130 ish i've ever spent

New Android handheld gaming console

The Yinlips YDP-G18 is probably the cheapest Android device you can find with dedicated game controls. It would be cool if someone could cook up an updated English language ROM for it.
Official site:
http://www.yinlips.com/en/productdetail.asp?ID=220
Where to buy:
http://www.isharegifts.com/yinlips-android-game-console-wifi-tablet-mp4-p-1573.html
Review (with lots of photos):
http://translate.google.com/transla...u=http://www.imp3.net/1/show.php?itemid=32282
Video showing it emulate N64 and PSX games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00C6RT-HawU

Hello,
This is a very promising console, we are currently testing and we must admit that this console is doing pretty well ... It's just a few thoughtful developers to take advantage of the machine maximum.
Go on google and write "CAANOO forumactif" to see the test!
The root is effective and the market is available.
Sorry for my poor english, i'm french

They already rooted it and installed android market on it. IMHO, it should get its own section. Having stripped down froyo or gb roms on it could further improve performance and battery life.
If I had the coin, I'd buy it right away. It's priced at $125 with free shipping. And it's the projection of my most beautiful dreams. Except for the two cameras it has.

It's actually a good product that can have enormous potential. Its biggest flaw is its current autonomy should be 3 hours with Wi-Fi enabled.
The screen is resistive, but responds well. It allows running N64 and PSX games fairly easily and without overclock.
I would love to also see a section for Android handheld and quickly see the arrival of Roms Customs and modified kernels.
For those who want to take the tests, the French member of the community are being Caanoo get them to see what she has in the stomach. I'm happy to keep you informed of the various tests that we will achieve.

I'm also getting one of these, looks promising with some tweaks or a new custom rom will be much better

Only 3 hr battery life? You'd think they'd be able to get more in there. But cool concept nonetheless.

Those who want to see the handheld running you can go see the videos that were made ​​by @ BAFelton at: Sorry but i can't link URL, so Go on Youtube and search BAFelton61
It gives a good idea of ​​what is possible.
Also, @ qbertaddict also examines the machine

Will get back to you almost certainly after the new year. Ordered it yesterday and they announced 15-20 business days until arrival

Yinlips has announced the update 2.3 (gingerbread) on the G18. This is good news to know that there is a follow-up from the manufacturer!

k0en, here too ?
Yeah i'm follow up this awesome device too, and still check what is possible to do with .... Christmas is coming...
Why not a CyanogenMod ? lol
We start collecting interesting infos:
Source: http://openlinux.amlogic.com/wiki/index.php/Arm
GPU: http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php

FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/

10basetom said:
FYI there is an active discussion including first-hand reviews of this device on this thread:
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/new-opensource-console-announced-the-rg/
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That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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cis.snakeman said:
k0en, here too ?
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Of course I'm All Around The Web
otherwise, it is the iReadyGo, not the G18 Yinlips. The prototype iReadyGo is not marketed. Here we talk about the G18. Is there any devs interested in working on improving it and make some changes?

butch87402 said:
That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At Reply #218 thay suddenly stop talking about the RG and switch to talking about the YDPG18.

butch87402 said:
That's not the same device.... Is it?
Yeah its not the one in the thread has a capacitive the one on topic has a resistive and only one joystick
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At about the third page or so they start talking about the Yinlips device.

Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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butch87402 said:
Has anyone bought this? Other than the bafbelton and qd something ? Is it work it? I only like it for the buttons
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There are others who have bought this. You can find their videos by searching for the Yinlips device on YouTube.

nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?

JC LEON said:
nice device.. but is? only chinese or english too?
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From what I can see in the videos, it's Chinese by default but can be changed to English. Since it's an Android device, in theory you would eventually be able to cook custom roms for this thing.

This is a steal, even though the touchscreen is resistive the specs are very good.
My interests are in the details, though: Does the analog stick work as a mouse in android? How is the screen quality with brightness and color? How easily can ROMs be customized?
If these things met with satisfaction I would buy today.
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