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Ok guys, I have been an Android fan since I got my first OG Droid back in Dec '09. I really wanted this Thunderbolt since it was announced. First thing I did when I got it was test the 4G speed. Friggin unbelievable.
What else is unbelievable is the damn battery drain. I honestly cant stand it. My OG Droid was not this bad. It was bad, yes, but not like this. I am charging probably 2 times a day, with not that much use.
I downloaded the app to turn off 4G, but what good is that? I got the phone because of the 4G!!!! I turn off widgets. i turn off auto-sync. I did the whole battery charge thing, i.e. turn off after full charge, take battery out, etc.....
Then when charing the battery it takes like 4-5 times longer to charge the damn thing. what is up with that? my OG Droid took way less then half the time to get a full charge?
get this, the other night, right before bed I had a 1/2 charge on my battery. at home i leave wifi on because it was said that it is less of a battery drain then the 4g. well, when i woke up by phone wouldnt turn on at all. it was completely dead. the weird thing is, this isnt all the time. the battery has a life of its own!!!!!
now you will tell me to root it and try a rom with a custom kernel. anyone who roots knows that once you do it you are constantly looking for the perfect rom. and guess what, you will never find it. with my OG Droid i probably had a new rom every 2 weeks or so. i really dont want to keep doing that over and over.
so if anyone can convince me otherwise, give a good reason to not switch I am 99% sure that I am going to iphone 4.
Cool story bro. Enjoy your iPhone.
i guess i'm just frustrated, if you couldnet tell.
do you no have issues with your bolt
AisforAustin?
For me, it's all about if you want' Apple to control your technology needs and provide to you what THEY deem necessary and be part of the mindless clan (watch the movie Metropolis, the Giorgio Moroder 1984 version). Then iphone will do for you. On the other hand, if you enjoy taking on technology and thinking for youself, and yes, finding delight in changing your ROM every 2 weeks, and learning from others, and learning from your mistakes, then DROID is for you
I have been happy with my bolt. I came from the Droid X which had very good battery life for me. At first I was a bit iffy about my bolts life, but since I dont have 4G yet I turned off the radio and that helped. Now I am undervolted, bloat free, and monitoring all the **** that is running in the background. Battery lasts me a lot longer than I thought. When 4G comes to my area this year, I will lost a bit of that life, but I'm fine with that. You have to remember, these aren't just phones anymore. They are computers basically. You aren't going to get the same life on any of these smartphones as you would on a RAZR.
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Ok guys, I have been an Android fan since I got my first OG Droid back in Dec '09. I really wanted this Thunderbolt since it was announced. First thing I did when I got it was test the 4G speed. Friggin unbelievable.
What else is unbelievable is the damn battery drain. I honestly cant stand it. My OG Droid was not this bad. It was bad, yes, but not like this. I am charging probably 2 times a day, with not that much use.
I downloaded the app to turn off 4G, but what good is that? I got the phone because of the 4G!!!! I turn off widgets. i turn off auto-sync. I did the whole battery charge thing, i.e. turn off after full charge, take battery out, etc.....
Then when charing the battery it takes like 4-5 times longer to charge the damn thing. what is up with that? my OG Droid took way less then half the time to get a full charge?
get this, the other night, right before bed I had a 1/2 charge on my battery. at home i leave wifi on because it was said that it is less of a battery drain then the 4g. well, when i woke up by phone wouldnt turn on at all. it was completely dead. the weird thing is, this isnt all the time. the battery has a life of its own!!!!!
now you will tell me to root it and try a rom with a custom kernel. anyone who roots knows that once you do it you are constantly looking for the perfect rom. and guess what, you will never find it. with my OG Droid i probably had a new rom every 2 weeks or so. i really dont want to keep doing that over and over.
so if anyone can convince me otherwise, give a good reason to not switch I am 99% sure that I am going to iphone 4.
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No offense but last time I checked you decided to jump ship on your own and go with a device that uses a new technology which I'm going to assume you were smart enough to know there would be some kinks and bugs to iron out...
You can't possibly expect 4G to be perfect and better on battery life from the get go, not to mention I turn my 4G off when I'm not using it and I can get a day and a half out of my phone no problem. Secondly why do you need 4G on when you're not even using it? How hard is it to flip the switch off when you're updating your twitter or facebook timeline? Do you really need 4G for a two second process on 3G? If you're surfing the internet fine, streaming video fine, but why is it necessary on simple quick tasks or during standby or sleep?
I'm just saying your expectations were probably too high of a premature technology from the get go, also you're utilizing something you don't need all of the time.
trust me i have been a loyal android fan but this experience is just killin me. i understand that this phone does more but come on, they really have to do something about the battery.
as for custom roms, i am good for it but as i said they all have ups and downs and i just dont want to keep messing with them once i find a major flaw, something of which all the custom roms have.
its not that i want to go and have apple dictate what i can and cant do with my phone. but you have to admit that google / manufacturers are letting all these developers do their work for them. they put out a 1/2 ass piece of work knowing that some developer on xda will come out with a root and a rom to fix their screw up.
i dont know, like i said, i'm just frustrated......
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For me, it's all about if you want' Apple to control your technology needs and provide to you what THEY deem necessary and be part of the mindless clan (watch the movie Metropolis, the Giorgio Moroder 1984 version). Then iphone will do for you. On the other hand, if you enjoy taking on technology and thinking for youself, and yes, finding delight in changing your ROM every 2 weeks, and learning from others, and learning from your mistakes, then DROID is for you
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ANDROID is for you. It's not called the DROID OS, it's Android. I'd prefer not to have people start calling every android device a DROID like they call all MP3 players iPods even if they are not
I personally came from apple and would NEVER go back. Everything is so locked down. 1 app store with what apple wants in it. A new phone every year (which basically just matches what android has released years ago). I mean but yea battery go with iPhone since being locked down gives you better battery life.
Oh and personally with major usage my phone lasts at least 10 hours. Which I'm pretty sure is close to the iPhone.
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trust me i have been a loyal android fan but this experience is just killin me. i understand that this phone does more but come on, they really have to do something about the battery.
as for custom roms, i am good for it but as i said they all have ups and downs and i just dont want to keep messing with them once i find a major flaw, something of which all the custom roms have.
its not that i want to go and have apple dictate what i can and cant do with my phone. but you have to admit that google / manufacturers are letting all these developers do their work for them. they put out a 1/2 ass piece of work knowing that some developer on xda will come out with a root and a rom to fix their screw up.
i dont know, like i said, i'm just frustrated......
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Ever heard of Cyanogenmod?
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No offense but last time I checked you decided to jump ship on your own and go with a device that uses a new technology which I'm going to assume you were smart enough to know there would be some kinks and bugs to iron out...
You can't possibly expect 4G to be perfect and better on battery life from the get go, not to mention I turn my 4G off when I'm not using it and I can get a day and a half out of my phone no problem. Secondly why do you need 4G on when you're not even using it? How hard is it to flip the switch off when you're updating your twitter or facebook timeline? Do you really need 4G for a two second process on 3G? If you're surfing the internet fine, streaming video fine, but why is it necessary on simple quick tasks or during standby or sleep?
I'm just saying your expectations were probably too high of a premature technology from the get go, also you're utilizing something you don't need all of the time.
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in my opinion, this release of 4g from verizon and htc, is not the best that they could have done. most likely they held releasing the bolt because of the battery issue then got some backlash for constantly pushing it out. guess what, there is still a problem.
i just dont understand why i would need to constantly switch back and forth between 4g and 3g, just seems dumb to me. its like having high speed internet at home and switching between my fios and dialup based on what i need at the time. duh. this may be the fix for now, but come on.
plus, my battery issues have been with 4g off, auto-sync off, no widgets. and still have a drain.
I would atleast wait for the first update to see if they fix or improve upon some of these issues.
So let me get this straight, you hate the idea of using 3g on the TB, but like the idea of switching to a 3g phone?
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First of all, I love my Thunderbolt and do not have battery issues. The only time the battery drains is when I use it what I would deem excessively throughout the day. Maybe you have a bad battery? I am not sure, but my phone gets me through a day, and even if it starts to run short, I can plug it in in my car on the way home, which is no inconvenience to me, and it has MORE than enough juice for the rest of the night. Something is definitely eating up your battery though, because the other night I went out drinking and came home drunk with only about 20% left on my battery from the days use. I was too buzzed to bother plugging in the phone, so it was the first time I went to bed with the phone unplugged. I woke up 12 hours later to around 10% battery life.
Also, if you want to go iPhone, then have fun. I gave up a long time ago trying to convince people one is better than the other. It is a pointless argument. I will tell you this though. I have some friends who have iPhone 4s through their job. This was where I first saw the iPhone 4 in the public. To begin with the screen is TINY! People can rave all they want about the retina display, but the small screen does not make it worth the higher resolution in my opinion. Also, if you think owning an iPhone is going to keep you from cord diving to charge your phone, think again. All those guys I know are constantly plugging their phone in throughout the day to get a little bit of a charge here and there so they make it through the day.
This is all just my opinions/experience though, and you have fun doing whatever you are going to do.
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Ever heard of Cyanogenmod?
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Yes, do they have a stable release for the Bolt now? If so I would love to try it out. Anyone have results on battery life with their latest release?
eddyo78 said:
in my opinion, this release of 4g from verizon and htc, is not the best that they could have done. most likely they held releasing the bolt because of the battery issue then got some backlash for constantly pushing it out. guess what, there is still a problem.
i just dont understand why i would need to constantly switch back and forth between 4g and 3g, just seems dumb to me. its like having high speed internet at home and switching between my fios and dialup based on what i need at the time. duh. this may be the fix for now, but come on.
plus, my battery issues have been with 4g off, auto-sync off, no widgets. and still have a drain.
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I'll tell you what guy, no one here really cares for your incessant whining, or your more than obvious trolling. We have better things to do with our days than listen to you whine and complain about a decision you made because you were too incompetent to wait and see reviews, or wait for the technology to mature.
Go to a Verizon store return your Thunderbolt get an iPhone 4 (Which is 9 months old) instead and then go whine in their forums about how you miss your 4.3inch touchscreen, your 4G speeds, your true multi-tasking, and custom roms.
Not to mention you can piss and moan with them when the iPhone 5 comes out with it's dual core processor and 4inch touchscreen.
If a mod could close down this troll thread that would be fantastic. On that note I bid you good day sir.
there does seem to be an issue with the stock ROM using 34mA of idle current from the 7 days of data i gathered on 2 stock units. where as other android phones pull 5mA of idle current. so i'm guessing that the thunderbolt delay in being released had something to do with this, and its STILL not quite on par with other android phones.
the option is to not use the stock TB rom, instead try cm7 or an aosp based ROM and see if the current draw returns to normal.
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Yes, do they have a stable release for the Bolt now? If so I would love to try it out. Anyone have results on battery life with their latest release?
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They just got 3G/4G working today however you aren't patient enough and don't care about freedom of your device so go grab an iPhone instead like I just stated.
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They just got 3G/4G working today however you aren't patient enough and don't care about freedom of your device so go grab an iPhone instead like I just stated.
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holy crap, DigitalDementia, did someone piss in your cheerios this morning?
I was going to say that you guys are turning me around, but you had nothing to do with it. My God, I feel sorry for you!
I will give CM7 a try tonight and see how it goes. If I am still having issues I'll get Verizon to give me a new battery as that could be it. I really didnt like the idea of going but am just getting tired of charging this thing so much.
I'll let you guys know how it goes and Digital, please take a chill pill. Dont want you to go postal or anything just because I was thinking of switching.
Is your charger working correctly? Try a different one. I had similar problems with another device draining while plugged in. It was a faulty charger. As for the battery life during the day, I have only had problems once with my TB.
I figure there's some folks on the fence about whether they should get rid of their g2x for the Sensation, or some who have to make the choice between the two.
I owned the G2X from launch day until this week. I've had the Sensation for 24 hours.
I have to admit up front I'm biased in terms of design- I prefer the look and feel of the Sensation over the G2X, no matter the performance of the two.
Initial impressions:
-Look and feel-To me, the Sensation wins this hands down, which is really saying something, because the G2X felt great in hand also. But the shape and design of the HTC is something I dig a bit more than the iphonish slab.
You may prefer the g2x as this is simply preference.
-Screen: call it a slight HTC advantage. The sensation has a higher resolution, which is obvious immediately, and has a slightly bigger screen, but lacks some of the eye popping color of the G2X.
-Speed: The G2X is a bit snappier, but I have yet to miss that extra snap because the rest of the experience is so good. Don't misunderstand, the HTC is also plenty fast, but I have been able to slow it down on occasion.
-call quality/sound quality: about the same in terms of calls, but the sounds (ringers and notifications, speaker phone) are all lower on the sensation, unless I'm missing a setting)
-htc sense/almost vanilla g2x: I prefer vanilla, but htc sense has surprised me..it's laid out really well. In the end, I rooted the g2x, and I'll root the sensation, so I'm not too concerned. If you're not the rooting type, the G2X is for you (though it's so easy to root the hell out of you might as well dive in)
-Battery life: This is the biggie for me. I immediately noticed how much better the HTC is compared to the g2x. Last night, I got 7 hours from the Sensation, and the screen was on full brightness (screen on time-5 hours, 55 minutes), wifi and wifi calling were on and so was facebook, gmail and email syncing. I was trying out everything for those 7 hours, too. Today, having unplugged at 5am, I'm now at 65% 11.5 hours later. This is with minimal use for 8 hours, and moderate to heavy use for the past 2 or so. The G2X either has the worst battery, or the worst battery drivers, and either way, I don't care anymore. I would lose 8% per hour while it sat in my pocket with the screen off. The Sensation lost about 1.5% per hour while the screen's off, today anyway.
Now, if both phones lose the same amount when in use heavily, the Sensation still wins by a wide margin as the idling % makes up for it. Simply put: it saves the juice when you're not using it.
-Bugs: G2x has seemingly 50 crippling bugs, but the most glaring is obviously the battery issues. There are reboots, freezes, factory resets and batteries that just turn off when charging because they're so hot. I'm talking hot to the touch. The LG dbag I spoke to in the tmobile store was awfully smug about these issues, another reason I was looking to jump ship.
Also wifi and data issues were pretty prevalent until I flashed a rom.
The HTC: pending, but nothing as dumbfounding as the mess I dealt with, with the LG. I tried the death grip and checked my screen for dust, and all the popular complaints, but haven't noticed anything yet.
Verdict: The Sensation feels like a Nexus One in hand, has a small led notification, gets much better battery life so far, and just feels more polished, inside and out. The LG is a hot rod with no restrictions, but horrible gas mileage and a slight pinging sound in the engine. If the Sensation were rooted right now, this would make the call way too easy-Sensation hands down. Since it's not currently, I say go with the Sensation if you don't own either one yet. If you own the G2X, I might wait for the update and see how it responds. If you're like me, a Nexus One freak, and you don't mind waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (or one of the brilliant minds here!), then the Sensation wins.
Hope this overview helps some people.
I honestly don't get the battery issues that people are having with the G2x. The rest of the issues.. most certainly. I am on my third due to the rest of the issues, but battery... yeah, no. It lasted 17.5 hours yesterday with 3 hours 45 min of actual screen on time + a few calls. And that was with WiFi on continuously but only having connection for 8 of those hours. I have a hard time finding issue with that. There IS a bug in the wifi calling which will eat your battery, but a simple check with "wheres my droid power" will show you that and let you kill the process.
All three of my phones have had issues (the second just loved to reboot randomly and repeatedly and once even factory reset itself) but battery has never even been close to being an issue.
I DO run Juice defender (the free version). If thats of importance. I am currently at 94% at 4 hours 39min since unplugged. GPS and WIFI on, no wifi signal.
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i just returned my g2x from lots of issues from batt. to wifi calling issues, then to finalize it suck on LG logo, so i returned it and got a mytouch 4g whic right off the get go it aint no dual core but the 2nd gen snap dragon is good and not loosing bars every minute went from 1-3,4 all the time (g2x) so have to love htc phones
i will see if how this phone treats me maybe jump in there next wk and get the sensation..
I loved my MT4G too. I REALLY wish I had skipped the G2x. I have such fingers crossed for the Sensation.
You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
ikhzter said:
You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
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Oh no doubt. That's what I'm counting on
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madwolf27 said:
I honestly don't get the battery issues that people are having with the G2x. The rest of the issues.. most certainly. I am on my third due to the rest of the issues, but battery... yeah, no. It lasted 17.5 hours yesterday with 3 hours 45 min of actual screen on time + a few calls. And that was with WiFi on continuously but only having connection for 8 of those hours. I have a hard time finding issue with that. There IS a bug in the wifi calling which will eat your battery, but a simple check with "wheres my droid power" will show you that and let you kill the process.
All three of my phones have had issues (the second just loved to reboot randomly and repeatedly and once even factory reset itself) but battery has never even been close to being an issue.
I DO run Juice defender (the free version). If thats of importance. I am currently at 94% at 4 hours 39min since unplugged. GPS and WIFI on, no wifi signal.
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Well you're one of the lucky ones. I certainly wouldn't make it up.
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i agree one hundred percent that it feels alot like my nexus one days.. o how i miss them
BiGMERF said:
i agree one hundred percent that it feels alot like my nexus one days.. o how i miss them
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Still miss the trackball.
madwolf27 said:
I loved my MT4G too. I REALLY wish I had skipped the G2x. I have such fingers crossed for the Sensation.
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Same here, my MT4G ran smooth, great signal strength, wifi, battery life was good...etc. This nightmare I dropped the MT4G to get is making life miserable. I'm on my 3rd G2x and all the same problems with each, just in differing degrees. I've been trying to decide if I should hold out and hope for the best or call up Tmo and make them take this crap back and give me a Sensation.
ikhzter said:
You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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NO WAY YOU MOTHER F*CKIN WICKED FIESTY SON OF A *******
so that means if it is a standard 1.5 ghz underclocked, we could seriously look at an overclock upto 2ghz. 4ghz sensation. F**kin hell thats my sony vaio right there.
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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Wow, I did not know that. Pimp my cpu is just begging to be used in my app tray.
I am totally biased towards HTC I have loved everyone of their android devices!!! The g2x simply sucks period! the screen was nice and that's about it! I am debating whether or not to sell my g2x or just keep it in the top drawer dungeon with my other forgotten cell phones. After 24 hours of playing with my sensation I absolutely love it. I am using adw launcher and for the most part htc sense isn't getting in my way. I love the lockscreen and the ability to instantly start my favorite 4 apps without technically unlocking the phone. I know that after my first 24hrs with my g2x I had already popped my sim card back in my mt4g...... so if you are on the fence about which to purchase GET A SENSATION!!!!
Well I've played with the sensation. I liked it. Was noticeably slower.
But felt great.
I'll be waiting for Nov to mar when the quad core chips release.
I just didn't find it justifiable to switch.
But it is a nice phone.
So is my g2x.
No problems.
Love the the gaming on the g2x
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wifi issue
i have the wifi issue on the landscape mode, no luck watching a video on youtube with the phone in my left hand
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Yea I miss the custom colors for my texts
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Nice review, thanks. I agree with almost everything you stated. I had the G2X and had to send it back. Terrible battery and the Bluetooth would never connect after the initial pairing.
This is my 1st HTC phone and I really like it. The battery is much better than the G2X. I was concerned about not liking Sense, however, I have been pleasantly surprised. IMO, this is a much better quality/build of a phone than the G2X. It will be even better once it's rooted.
I picked up a Sensation today and it is sitting next to my G2x. So far I have observed the following:
Sensation--Device got very hot immediately after powering it on. It has continued to stay at 101 to 111 degrees if used at all. If it idles it only drops to 96 degrees.
Touchscreen becomes unresponsive at times and a noticeable lag appears while trying to load apps. After charging to full capacity it has dropped 17% in 15 minutes of very limited use. The screen is very nice and it is a very attractive phone. I am not a fan of Sense (although this version is much better than the previous ones) Speaker phone volume is relatively weak (in my opinion) The build is great, although I have found a sort of dent in the upper area of the battery cover. The GPS is one of the best I have ever tried. All in all a very very good phone. The heating issues which started immediately and the touchscreen's lack of responsiveness make it hard for me to consider keeping this phone. I could probably just send it back and get a replacement but I do not want to get on that merry go round again. Unless the over heating ceases or gets better and the touch screen responds on all areas of the screen, it will go back and I will be staying with the G2X. Make no mistake though the Sensation is a GREAT phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I picked up a Sensation today and it is sitting next to my G2x. So far I have observed the following:
Sensation--Device got very hot immediately after powering it on. It has continued to stay at 101 to 111 degrees if used at all. If it idles it only drops to 96 degrees.
Touchscreen becomes unresponsive at times and a noticeable lag appears while trying to load apps. After charging to full capacity it has dropped 17% in 15 minutes of very limited use. The screen is very nice and it is a very attractive phone. I am not a fan of Sense (although this version is much better than the previous ones) Speaker phone volume is relatively weak (in my opinion) The build is great, although I have found a sort of dent in the upper area of the battery cover. The GPS is one of the best I have ever tried. All in all a very very good phone. The heating issues which started immediately and the touchscreen's lack of responsiveness make it hard for me to consider keeping this phone. I could probably just send it back and get a replacement but I do not want to get on that merry go round again. Unless the over heating ceases or gets better and the touch screen responds on all areas of the screen, it will go back and I will be staying with the G2X. Make no mistake though the Sensation is a GREAT phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I charged my sensation fully before I ever powered it on and I have not experienced any over heating issues. I absolutely hate the g2x lol
I had the Droid 1 & then the Droid 2 for the last 2 years. I never had a problem with either one, it made me want to get another Android and the D Charge seemed like the one I was waiting for. Let me just say first off.. the DC screen is amazing. For viewing video and pictures (also taking pictures) this phone blows everything I've ever seen out of the water. Also, it's light as hell, for being such a large screen I barely even notice it's in my pocket - incredible.
But.. when you turn this thing on it's loaded with bloatware, also samsung's touchwiz which absolutely blows. Everything is so awkward and bogged down (& not to mention ugly), who would ever want to use this?? Going through the system is not smooth and frankly almost 'slow.' Ok but this is an Android so we can fix this by using custom roms.. but why? Why would you package the phone in a manor that doesn't fully utilize its qualities? This is just going to turn off a portion of the average user from buying the phone and decrease its overall support. D1 & D2 (even with motoblur) never had this problem. I've used custom roms but if for some reason I was stuck with stock it still wouldn't be that bad.
Ok so I rooted. Granted this is very early in the development life of the phone, I had a terrible experience. I flashed combinations of every rom & kernel out to date (6/10/2011). I had no problems actually installing or flashing anything, it's not as simple as the moto droids but easy enough. This did fix some of the speed issue as far as moving through screens/apps but high end games and apps still don't' run well and in my experience I sacrificed major battery life (which is already terrible like every droid) to run the custom roms so it's not worth it yet.
This brings me to the processor... why should I have to download current games (Battleheart, Plants vs Zombies) on my D2 just to play them correctly?? I know the DC doesn't have a dual core processor but I feel like it should be able to handle current software with ease or at least keep up with a phone I got 2 YEARS AGO. In my opinion this takes away from the screen, because what's the point?
My latest gripe is just bias but I have a weird burn/water mark on my screen. Verizon is mailing me a replacement after my 1 hour battle at the retail store today. This is probably causing some of my negative outlook but I've been a happy verizon/droid user for the last 2 years - and after less than a month with this thing it's just been a nightmare.
I wanted to write this so people who are thinking about upgrading are fully educated. This is still probably the best 4g phone out on Verizon but I'm disappointed I didn't wait - if this changes I will update the post but I think a lot of people are too proud to admit they spent $300 and it's not the best thing since sliced bread.
I kinda feel like you Do thinking of trading fir a thunderbolt. .even since u flashed different Roms its still slow and lagy?
They aren't going to let me at this point, I had to fight tooth and nail for them to mail me a replacement Charge. I've used the Thunderbolt a good deal, it has its own problems and like I said the Charge is still probably the best LTE phone to date. Most of the frustration is probably that it's not much of an upgrade in a lot of areas from the Droid 2.
I actually love it now after ee4.. I was about to give up
Yea i feel the same coming from dx which i loved but wanted 4g..this phone is way slow compared to the dx I'm thinking bout a tb now only had this a week
r00t beer - Can you explain the screen burn-in issue a little more? Just curious...
I was actually able to get a good picture of the problem:
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If you notice, I had to make a smudge mark by wiping my thumb along the blotches otherwise you can't really see them. So the guy at Verizon would go in the back and clean it (then you can't see them), when he came out I would smudge it again to show him, we did this dance for a good 20 minutes.
His ingenious solution was for me to buy screen protectors.. Yes I realize me spending $15 vs you replacing a phone is a much better solution for you. "You won't be able to tell when the screen is on." That's not the point, my friend has a huge crack on his screen that you can't really see when the screen is on.. I paid for a new phone, not a new phone with some crazy marks on it, who knows if they'll grow into even bigger problems. Also I don't use screen protectors, and shouldn't have to - it takes away from the phone and I've never had a problem before.
I feel the same way man. Came from a Samsung Fascinate and this is just as fast and the screen is a tiny bit better. And both use Froyo. So I feel you on the spending $300 PLUS the 2yr contract and its definitely not even close to the day sliced bread was invented. 4G speeds are hella fast but that really only applies to downloads and tethering mostly. Dual core phones load web pages almost twice as fast because they can multitask the process therefore making web browsing a superb experience. As soon as the SGS2 comes to VZW, this thing is going up on eBay for whatever price it sells for and I won't look back.
asenduk said:
I actually love it now after ee4.. I was about to give up
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This is one thing I haven't tried yet. Right now I'm just on ED 2 bloated stock everything so it'll stay ready to ship back. Once I get the replacement I'll keep testing what's out there and give the best input for improvement I can based on my limited knowledge.
My Charge was never slow, even stock. Although it was only stock for a few hours. I had some issues recently with the battery and wiped / reflashed the phone which led to bigger problems, but they were quickly resolved. My phone's battery is pretty decent now and it'll only get better with future updates and customization. I can play Battleheart so im not sure what problems you're having. Every game I've played ran perfectly smooth except for Sims 3 and NFS Shift which had graphical issues, but I couldn't care less about those two problems.
I score 1620 on quadrant using PBJT and AB v4.1.1 and never experience any lag. This thing flies and it's only going to get faster.
Also, if you think modding this is a pain, try modding some other phones like that god damn g2 haha. Flashing the Charge is cake, the problem is some people post awful instructions and Odin can be picky as hell with USB ports and computers in general, but it's actually pretty damn simple to root and whatnot.
P.s. the battery didn't drop at all while I wrote this post on my Charge The battery has only dropped from 54% to 33% in the past 2+ hours with pretty heavy use. The screen was on medium brightness to almost 100% brightness during that time, adjusting automatically.
The price of the phone didn't really bother me as I got it for $260 and it comes with a freaking 32gb as card. I don't buy phones every year either.
Also, I honestly do not care what the average phone user thinks about the Charge or any phone because their opinion may be complete horse crap. Being a techy nerd, I do not judge a phone based on its stock software because its not staying around for long. Yes, touchwiz isnbeyond lame, but I don't like that Blur or Sense crap either. As for bloatware, expect a ton of it in all future phones.
Yuck, that screen is pretty bad. Incredible that they gave you a hard time exchanging, whether it's visible with the screen on or not. They must waterboard the reps at Verizon now if they give in too quickly to an exchange request. Good they're sending you a new one.
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My Charge was never slow, even stock. Although it was only stock for a few hours. I had some issues recently with the battery and wiped / reflashed the phone which led to bigger problems, but they were quickly resolved. My phone's battery is pretty decent now and it'll only get better with future updates and customization. I can play Battleheart so im not sure what problems you're having. Every game I've played ran perfectly smooth except for Sims 3 and NFS Shift which had graphical issues, but I couldn't care less about those two problems.
I score 1620 on quadrant using PBJT and AB v4.1.1 and never experience any lag. This thing flies and it's only going to get faster.
Also, if you think modding this is a pain, try modding some other phones like that god damn g2 haha. Flashing the Charge is cake, the problem is some people post awful instructions and Odin can be picky as hell with USB ports and computers in general, but it's actually pretty damn simple to root and whatnot.
P.s. the battery didn't drop at all while I wrote this post on my Charge The battery has only dropped from 54% to 33% in the past 2+ hours with pretty heavy use. The screen was on medium brightness to almost 100% brightness during that time, adjusting automatically.
The price of the phone didn't really bother me as I got it for $260 and it comes with a freaking 32gb as card. I don't buy phones every year either.
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That's good news, maybe once I flash again I will get better battery.
Battleheart runs fine but takes forever to load, which turns the screen off if you don't touch it so it's just annoying. It loads much faster on droid 2 - it's a game that having a big screen makes much better but I still prefer the quicker load times. PvZ does not run fine. I can't play the later levels it slows down too much then lags and you die. I haven't played it enough on D2 to compare. Also robo defense you can't play in high graphics mode.
The price doesn't bother me either really, I just wanted a clean screen. I get a discount through work on every phone except Iphones. So I paid $250 online vs $300 for the 32g iPhone not bad.
I don't think modding is a pain - especially for early stages. Just new things to learn.
letsgophillyingeneral said:
My Charge was never slow, even stock. Although it was only stock for a few hours. I had some issues recently with the battery and wiped / reflashed the phone which led to bigger problems, but they were quickly resolved. My phone's battery is pretty decent now and it'll only get better with future updates and customization. I can play Battleheart so im not sure what problems you're having. Every game I've played ran perfectly smooth except for Sims 3 and NFS Shift which had graphical issues, but I couldn't care less about those two problems.
I score 1620 on quadrant using PBJT and AB v4.1.1 and never experience any lag. This thing flies and it's only going to get faster.
Also, if you think modding this is a pain, try modding some other phones like that god damn g2 haha. Flashing the Charge is cake, the problem is some people post awful instructions and Odin can be picky as hell with USB ports and computers in general, but it's actually pretty damn simple to root and whatnot.
P.s. the battery didn't drop at all while I wrote this post on my Charge The battery has only dropped from 54% to 33% in the past 2+ hours with pretty heavy use. The screen was on medium brightness to almost 100% brightness during that time, adjusting automatically.
The price of the phone didn't really bother me as I got it for $260 and it comes with a freaking 32gb as card. I don't buy phones every year either.
Also, I honestly do not care what the average phone user thinks about the Charge or any phone because their opinion may be complete horse crap. Being a techy nerd, I do not judge a phone based on its stock software because its not staying around for long. Yes, touchwiz isnbeyond lame, but I don't like that Blur or Sense crap either. As for bloatware, expect a ton of it in all future phones.
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So you aren't on EE4?
tcshort said:
Yea i feel the same coming from dx which i loved but wanted 4g..this phone is way slow compared to the dx I'm thinking bout a tb now only had this a week
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LOL
Charge > DX easily.
In Agreement
BACKGROUND
Nexus One - the Bomb!
I had a Nexus One on T Mobile (my wife still has hers). This is the best phone I have ever owned. And, on Gingerbread it is buttery smooth and does nothing wrong.
T Mobile Coverage Sucks - Jump to Verizon
However, I needed a better network so I decided to go to Verizon.
At the same time, my business is Mac based and I loved my recently acquired iPad 2 so I decided to try an iPhone 4.
I loved the hardware and the smoothness of the system overall - typical very well done Apple product.
But alas, I couldn't stand it - IOS is simply missing too many things I have come to depend upon heavily with android - Notifications and Screen shortcuts are the main two I couldn't live without.
From IOS back to Android
Since I decided to dump the iPhone, which android phone? I considered:
X2
Thunderbolt
Charge
I went with the Charge because I thought LTE would eventually payoff and I thought I would like the screen size and brightness better than Thunderbolt plus I had heard the battery life was better on the Charge. And, I heard that Samsung was making nice phones (Nexus S, Fascination).
The Charge is a Disappointment - No - I am actually hating it
OK, there is a lot to like about the Charge, but in the end I can't stand the phone and I need to do something quick - my thoughts:
The good:
1) screen is gorgeous and bright - OK - this is nice, but doesn't even come close to making me like the phone given the fatal flaws I am about to detail below.
2) LTE is awesome when I can get to it - this is about 10% of the time given how I travel. However, I could easily use a 4G MIFI device to boost my browsing performance so 4G isn't critical at all for me at this point.
The Bad
OK, I haven't rooted yet and am considering gummy charged, but here is how it is today:
1) LAGINESS - this is the big deal for me.
Note: I have not rooted but I use either Launcher Pro or Go Launcher, which both help some. However, I use my phone a tremendous amount.
I am on the phone almost all the time. Many times I need to check something else (on the web, in my contacts, in a Google doc, etc., etc.,) while on a phone call. I get allot of stuff going just in the natural course of using my phone in my business - I am pretty sure I would be considered a heavy user.
With all of this - the phone slows down unbearably. I click on an app and it just (seems to) sit there forever before responding. I find myself using app killers to try to remedy these unbelievable slowdowns. I am coming from the Nexus One which beats the living snot out of the Charge in this regard. The Nexus One is very very quick and does not slow down the more you use it. I actually remember that this was kinda how the Nexus One used to respond in the early days before it made it to Froyo and now with Gingerbread the Nexus One is virtually head and shoulders above the dismal and pathetically performing Charge. The poor poor lag and delays launching apps is the reason I need to do something else quick.
2) BATTERY LIFE
Let me just say that If I didn't have the LAG problems I could live with the poor battery performance. However, here is my experience. I am only able to use 4G about 10% of the time so I know this isn't the main problem. I have GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless turned off unless I need it. I turn the screen brightness down to the lowest setting unless I am using it out in the sunlight. With all of this management I find I have to make sure I keep the Charge plugged in to my car charger as much as I can manage it or I am going to find myself in trouble very quickly. It does not take allot to drain the Charge. It seems it can be at 90% and in an hour or so it is down to 50 or 60 - it is ridiculous. I cannot stop thinking about it and this is something that also make me hate my Charge - I shouldn't have to worry this much about a stupid ass phone - I have my business to attend to -not managing my phone so darn much!.
And, if this wasn't bad enough, recharging is the icing on the cake in the electrical compartment - it is slower than any device I have ever owned - it is ridiculous - it is like waiting for grass to grow while I am in desperate need to get things done!
CONCLUSION
If I could get the Nexus One working on Verizon I would do it in a second.
I think I would actually prefer the iPhone 4 over the Charge because the iPhone had better overall performance and the battery life was much much better. Plus, the iphone is the right size whereas the Charge is actually too big to use comfortably with one hand.
What am I going to do??? - I really don't know at this point - I don't see a good solution in front of me. I am very very disappointed with the Charge. If I knew for a fact Gummy Charged would help enough I would give it a go. I am way beyond my return period so I can't try out the Thunderbolt. I don't know - I really really miss my Nexus One. I would actually prefer the Nexus One on T Mobile given how bad the Charge sucks. Yes, even though I get way more dropped calls on T Mobile compared to Verizon and even though I am on 3G or 4G on verizon way way more than on T Mobile, I think I would still prefer the Nexus One.
Signed - Disappointed in Charge
I think this phone is great! Coming from a DX, when I first got this, I was not so pleased. I threw AB, did the voodoo lag fix, and now this is the best phone I've ever owned. Battery life kinda blows, but I knew this going into a LTE device. Besides nothing can beat a DX debloated gingerbread in the battery dept.
I'm sure once ee4 is installed, I'll love this phone even more, but we'll see.
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Btw, to r00t beer. Must be something wrong with your phone. Uhhhm, comparing the DC to my DX, the DC is much faster playing high end games. Dungeon Defenders, XPlane, even plants vs zombies, which I don't consider high end, but tested anyway for you. Even load times are quicker on the DC.... so I donno what might be wrong with your phone.
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r00t beer, I figured it out. I assumed you have Chainfire installed. I assume everyone does. I uninstalled it, and sure enough, even plants vs zombies becomes unplayable.
Just grab it from the market. Its free, and you will love your phone again. Lol
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Tornlogic said:
r00t beer, I figured it out. I assumed you have Chainfire installed. I assume everyone does. I uninstalled it, and sure enough, even plants vs zombies becomes unplayable.
Just grab it from the market. Its free, and you will love your phone again. Lol
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I did not know about this app, I'm unrooted till I get my replacement but will try it asap thanks.
sarends said:
BACKGROUND
Nexus One - the Bomb!
I had a Nexus One on T Mobile (my wife still has hers). This is the best phone I have ever owned. And, on Gingerbread it is buttery smooth and does nothing wrong.
T Mobile Coverage Sucks - Jump to Verizon
However, I needed a better network so I decided to go to Verizon.
At the same time, my business is Mac based and I loved my recently acquired iPad 2 so I decided to try an iPhone 4.
I loved the hardware and the smoothness of the system overall - typical very well done Apple product.
But alas, I couldn't stand it - IOS is simply missing too many things I have come to depend upon heavily with android - Notifications and Screen shortcuts are the main two I couldn't live without.
From IOS back to Android
Since I decided to dump the iPhone, which android phone? I considered:
X2
Thunderbolt
Charge
I went with the Charge because I thought LTE would eventually payoff and I thought I would like the screen size and brightness better than Thunderbolt plus I had heard the battery life was better on the Charge. And, I heard that Samsung was making nice phones (Nexus S, Fascination).
The Charge is a Disappointment - No - I am actually hating it
OK, there is a lot to like about the Charge, but in the end I can't stand the phone and I need to do something quick - my thoughts:
The good:
1) screen is gorgeous and bright - OK - this is nice, but doesn't even come close to making me like the phone given the fatal flaws I am about to detail below.
2) LTE is awesome when I can get to it - this is about 10% of the time given how I travel. However, I could easily use a 4G MIFI device to boost my browsing performance so 4G isn't critical at all for me at this point.
The Bad
OK, I haven't rooted yet and am considering gummy charged, but here is how it is today:
1) LAGINESS - this is the big deal for me.
Note: I have not rooted but I use either Launcher Pro or Go Launcher, which both help some. However, I use my phone a tremendous amount.
I am on the phone almost all the time. Many times I need to check something else (on the web, in my contacts, in a Google doc, etc., etc.,) while on a phone call. I get allot of stuff going just in the natural course of using my phone in my business - I am pretty sure I would be considered a heavy user.
With all of this - the phone slows down unbearably. I click on an app and it just (seems to) sit there forever before responding. I find myself using app killers to try to remedy these unbelievable slowdowns. I am coming from the Nexus One which beats the living snot out of the Charge in this regard. The Nexus One is very very quick and does not slow down the more you use it. I actually remember that this was kinda how the Nexus One used to respond in the early days before it made it to Froyo and now with Gingerbread the Nexus One is virtually head and shoulders above the dismal and pathetically performing Charge. The poor poor lag and delays launching apps is the reason I need to do something else quick.
2) BATTERY LIFE
Let me just say that If I didn't have the LAG problems I could live with the poor battery performance. However, here is my experience. I am only able to use 4G about 10% of the time so I know this isn't the main problem. I have GPS, Bluetooth and Wireless turned off unless I need it. I turn the screen brightness down to the lowest setting unless I am using it out in the sunlight. With all of this management I find I have to make sure I keep the Charge plugged in to my car charger as much as I can manage it or I am going to find myself in trouble very quickly. It does not take allot to drain the Charge. It seems it can be at 90% and in an hour or so it is down to 50 or 60 - it is ridiculous. I cannot stop thinking about it and this is something that also make me hate my Charge - I shouldn't have to worry this much about a stupid ass phone - I have my business to attend to -not managing my phone so darn much!.
And, if this wasn't bad enough, recharging is the icing on the cake in the electrical compartment - it is slower than any device I have ever owned - it is ridiculous - it is like waiting for grass to grow while I am in desperate need to get things done!
CONCLUSION
If I could get the Nexus One working on Verizon I would do it in a second.
I think I would actually prefer the iPhone 4 over the Charge because the iPhone had better overall performance and the battery life was much much better. Plus, the iphone is the right size whereas the Charge is actually too big to use comfortably with one hand.
What am I going to do??? - I really don't know at this point - I don't see a good solution in front of me. I am very very disappointed with the Charge. If I knew for a fact Gummy Charged would help enough I would give it a go. I am way beyond my return period so I can't try out the Thunderbolt. I don't know - I really really miss my Nexus One. I would actually prefer the Nexus One on T Mobile given how bad the Charge sucks. Yes, even though I get way more dropped calls on T Mobile compared to Verizon and even though I am on 3G or 4G on verizon way way more than on T Mobile, I think I would still prefer the Nexus One.
Signed - Disappointed in Charge
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Well we're both stuck so lets try to make the best of it lol. Good to know I'm not the only one in this boat.
Ok so GB is up and running since yesterday at about 5:30pm.
The phone seems snappier and quicker and has a different look to it, but the one thing I was hoping for was better battery life and it seems the same if worse.
I have had any reboots yet, but I'm not willing to say that the issue has been fixed because I don't get them everyday.
If this isn't the official TMO/LG fix, do you guys think there is still a chance they will address battery life because they didn't do anything IMO.
I have to agree. My battery life is no better then it was from FroYo. This better not be the official release.
My battery life is way better on this stock GB than on the stock FROYO. Maybe you have an application that is persistently hogging resources?
I think you may be right. I just noticed that TeleNav was stuck in a continuous restart. I never even opened that POS software. Cannot wait to root with SuperOneClick.
Yeah android as a whole OS needs to release a major update concerning battery life, its easier said than done though the hardware is different on every phone.
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Just another quick piece of advice. If you are coming from a different ROM and/or different kernel let the battery charge to 100 then unplug from charger > Boot into CWM > advanced > Wipe Battery Stats
Exactly, which is why the manufacturers really need to fix battery life for each of the phones they put out.
I really want to wait for ice cream sandwich, but if I get the chance to get an iphone4 I'm going for it, even though it might be considered a downgrade specs wise, the apps, and better battery life make up for all the losses.
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Why wouldn't you wait for the five to come out?
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Well I don't really have cash to spend on a iphone5, if I can do an even trade for the 4 I will.
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Bhatch said:
Ok so GB is up and running since yesterday at about 5:30pm.
The phone seems snappier and quicker and has a different look to it, but the one thing I was hoping for was better battery life and it seems the same if worse.
I have had any reboots yet, but I'm not willing to say that the issue has been fixed because I don't get them everyday.
If this isn't the official TMO/LG fix, do you guys think there is still a chance they will address battery life because they didn't do anything IMO.
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I decided to use the rooted version that came about yesterday afternoon and let it fully charge overnight and I've had it off my charger for 2hrs. My battery got worse, I'm now at 85% and all I've done was watch 2 short videos and came here a few times for a few mins. Also downloaded the newest cm7 nightly.
Overall I'm not impressed with the work LG put into this, seems like this was the CEOs teenage stepsons work so he could have his devs work on their other pos electronics.
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kdunn1994 said:
Well I don't really have cash to spend on a iphone5, if I can do an even trade for the 4 I will.
I really want to wait for ice cream sandwich, but if I get the chance to get an iphone4 I'm going for it, even though it might be considered a downgrade specs wise, the apps, and better battery life make up for all the losses.
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A friendly word of advice. I came from the iPhone4 to the G2x. Even with the shortcomings this phone has had the iPhone 4 will only make you want your G2x back. Getting caught up in Apple's iron fist of control over your device sucks. I have had every iPhone since the original release. The battery life is decent on the iPhone 4, but not any better in my opinion than what I am getting now since I flashed a different ROM. So from experience I can say that is not a good thing.
I am running CM7 with faux's kernel on my G2x. since doing that I have had great battery life, no re-boots and no other issues. If you haven't done that it's worth a try.
Yeah, now with ios 5 u are no.longer tied down to iTunes, I have tried just about all the roms and kernel combinations, the best I got was 15 hours with heavy optimization that was running cm7 with faux oc UV kernel with set CPU profiles and juice defender, basically I disabled every feature that made my phone a smartphone, if I recall when I had an iPhone 3g (and the 4's battery has to.be better) I never needed to carry around my charger and I could actually play games, I just dropped from 100% to 90% in 27min, cmon, this is running the phone how it was made to run with gb rom from yesterday and bloat removed w root at 20% brightness.
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Whenever I want serious battery life, I just turn on wifi calling. Since it disables the cellular radio completely I get way, way, way more battery time out of it. Just the other day I had the phone off the charger for 18 hours and was at 40% battery life. This on on the stock rom.
I manage cell phones and can confidently say that even the iphone users are unhappy with their battery life, as is nearly every smartphone user coming from a dumbphone or a blackberry.
Oh and I forgot to add, with ios5 you still are forced to use itunes for all of your music and syncing, you just don't have to physically hook up the cables. It's like a wireless tether sync.
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Yeah, now with ios 5 u are no.longer tied down to iTunes, I have tried just about all the roms and kernel combinations, the best I got was 15 hours with heavy optimization that was running cm7 with faux oc UV kernel with set CPU profiles and juice defender, basically I disabled every feature that made my phone a smartphone, if I recall when I had an iPhone 3g (and the 4's battery has to.be better) I never needed to carry around my charger and I could actually play games, I just dropped from 100% to 90% in 27min, cmon, this is running the phone how it was made to run with gb rom from yesterday and bloat removed w root at 20% brightness.
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Apple has absolute control over everything software and hardware, allowing for ultimate optimization. Add that to the massive battery and lack of true multitasking and you have a phone that will last a long time.
What you describe should not be happening though, and I suggest trying juice defender and reading on battery saving tips for android. But understand that phones are getting more powerful, while battery tech stays the same.
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I've done all that, today I'm gonna use my phone the way it was meant to be used, I'm thinking of buying a 3500ma battery off of eBay for $10.
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My battery life is way better on this stock GB than on the stock FROYO. Maybe you have an application that is persistently hogging resources?
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I don't think I do. I have had this crappy battery life since release day. I tried the factory reset stuff and ran with no apps. Once I noticed it didn't improve battery life I put the apps back on.
To me it is just the cell stand by/phone idle stuff always killing my battery.
I would love to use the wifi calling, but it didn't work very well at my house (no option to do so at work).
For people with battery life changes....Did you just upgrade to GB via the ROM available, or did you use the LG Tool that also updated basebands?
My phone is great on Froyo with the exception of battery life. I had read GB has better battery life. Trying to determine if changing the basebands will also help.
Any advice?
If you think you have bad battery life, my friend has an HTC Thunderbolt he tells me he only gets 4 hours of battery life... Takes him 6 hours to charge to full, 10 AM disconnects from his charger and at 2PM he has less than 10% left.
I get less than four hours if I don't turn off the screen, and constantly use my phone with brightness at 25%.
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Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
Looks normal to me. What's ingress? A game?
K****ij Agrawal said:
Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
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Not bad. I would disable Wi-Fi always scanning available (even if Wi-Fi is off), location to start. That's not bad though and is about what I get, but you might be able to get better SOT.
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
Seems normal to me ,I bought mine month ago
There are no issues with battery on nexus 5. I charge mine usually once in 3 days, my record without charge is about a week.
It really depends on how you use it. Under constant 100% load I think battery can be depleted under 5 hours, as in every other device.
i can use my phone very heavily, and deplete my battery in 6-8 hours. but ill still get 5+ hours screen on time.
simms22 said:
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
xnormskix said:
wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
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not quite, but in the n5 and n4 forums I am :angel:
Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
bblzd said:
You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
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He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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MrObvious said:
He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot guys for taking your time and helping me , nexus 5 is truly an amazing phone.
@Ben36 yes , ingress is a game and its a location based so it keeps running in the background and uses location services.
Guys , I have some questions relating to the vibration motor , is it fine if I ask here or am I supposed to make a new thread?
Thaks a lot once again
simms22 said:
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
theesotericone said:
I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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oh, no, I 100% agree with you. just like our devices, that all aren't equal, that are all assembled in differing places, that all have smaller parts that are made in more different factories.. the batteries themselves will differ as well. it'll even probably fall onto a bell curve, where most are near the center, and less with better or worse. but 100% they vary.
theesotericone said:
I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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Well I feel that there are always some exceptions , some phones may have a manufacturing defect and maybe the phone you are talking about did have one , but these manufacturing defects are mostly really rare.
You should be good to go...just keep an eye on it! Happy Flashing
bblzd said:
That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
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I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
MrObvious said:
I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
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Thanks for clarifying. Keeping the battery between 20% and 80% is said to help with battery degradation, which after a year or two might affect how much one could get out of a full charge. Most won't find it practical to limit them self to only 60% of their total available battery pool though.
Even hitting 0% isn't as big of a problem as some may think as there is a reserve charge for protection. For instance, mine has full died on me twice due to a power outage (I even attempted a boot up) and I always full charge with no noticeable degradation after 8 months.