Hey all,
A question here, i have heard this story a couple of times now but no proof. So maybe one of you can tell me if its a hoax or not.
I heard about a program that is able to triangulate your position by checking the signalstrenght. The program i heard about would be able to change to profiles to whatever you set them and whenever they should be activated.
For example: you come home, the program finds out you are close to home and puts on another callprofile etc.
The fact is that i know of LBS (location based service) and that those services are also working on the triangulation of cellphones.
Basically it should be possible but i can't find anything about a single program that is able to do something even close to that.
Do some of you have some more information if there is such a program or if its even possible?
Thanks!
I have been looking for that for years. It's the replacement of GPS (carry one more device). However, I search through the webs (visisted more than 100 sites). Some were restricted (police use) and some were requiring service charges per Kb.
Search for "navizon". I remember reading about it on here somewhere - let me know if its what your after and if its any good please.
Specs off navizon are very promising. It claims to use all available cell, wifi & gps data on p2p basis to locate your current position. Unfortunately PIE & Minimo aren't capable of downloading the installl files, so my try-out is a bit delayed.
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Thanks for the info petest. That looks very promising indeed!
It even has the possibility to let GPS software use it.
I just installed the whole package and fired it up but still no positioning data after 20 minutes.
I'll let it run for a day and see if something happens.
But thanks for the info and i'll let you all know if it starts working!
I've searched in the forum but I didn't find anything about it.
I've just installed the trial version of CoPilot for TD2, but every time I launch it I see a message that sounds like "CoPilot needs to confirm your trial period by accessing Internet every time you use it".
So the question is: does it really connect to internet every time I start the program? I'm going abroad and I was planning to test it, but if it is going to use internet it will cost me a fortune!
Thank you
Bruno.
I used the trial and as far as I can tell it does try to check each time its run, try an experiment, block your data connections (NODATA) then see if it runs, I did have a situation where I didn't have a data connection (bad signal area) and it did start up, it might not need to check every time??
I did have some issues with Copilot though, if I went find a destination from a Contact section, as soon as I selected a key on the keyboard (to go to a contact) it crashed out. Also it had trouble with several contacts in finding a street location for them.
BrunoCi said:
I've searched in the forum but I didn't find anything about it.
I've just installed the trial version of CoPilot for TD2, but every time I launch it I see a message that sounds like "CoPilot needs to confirm your trial period by accessing Internet every time you use it".
So the question is: does it really connect to internet every time I start the program? I'm going abroad and I was planning to test it, but if it is going to use internet it will cost me a fortune!
Thank you
Bruno.
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I had a big arguement with CoPilot support about this - the software does in fact require internet connection to verify your status everytime you start it - I pointed out to the guy at CoPilot that this was ridiculous since on their start page they say that "Copilot doesn't use mobile internet for sat nav" .... but you do need it everytime you start it so without internet connection, you can't really use Copilot even though it might not need it for the satnav part!!!!
But, whilst trying it out, I think (but no guarantees) that once you log on to start Copilot, it might place some kind of tag about the expiry date and if you then block your data connection, you may still be able to use it by clicking on cancel on the welcome page of Copilot that tells you it needs to verify your license.
So give that a try and see if it works .... good luck and happy travels
Not a problem for me
Hi all
I used Copilot during the trial period and since buying it and it's never asked for an internet connection when the wireless is off. It's version:
7.8.0.351
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
What map version do you have? In trial it's only 0804.
0804 maps
Hi
Yep, 0804 maps. You don't get anything extra when you buy it.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Earn money with your phone through wifi and phone cell towers UK included.
Navizon have just released a new software version of Navimote (v1.07) for Android handsets.
Ever wondered how you could transform the miles you travel into cash in your account. Well, now you can with Navizon rewards.
When you use Navizon with a GPS device, every Wi-Fi access point and Cell tower that you pass by will be logged and turned into points on your account.
If they are discovered by you (If you are the first one to map them)
15 points for each cellular tower
3 points for each Wi-Fi access point
If they have already been mapped by someone else
(except in a few areas)
1 point for each Wi-Fi access point
2 points for each cellular tower
Once you have 10,000 points, you can redeem them for a reward, and $15 will be wired to your Paypal account (minus the Paypal fee in the amount of $0.29).
Note: You may also choose to redeem a reward for a free upgrade to Navizon Premium.
The idea is fairly simple: some users who have GPS enabled phones, or a standalone GPS device map the wireless landscape (ie. the location of Cell towers and Wi-Fi Access Points) wherever they go, so that other users who don’t have GPS will be able to use a positioning system that works independent of GPS.
Instead, location is achieved by triangulating those same Wi-Fi and/or Cellular signals, whose location is now known thanks to the "mappers."
Like in every community, there are the people who do the work and others who benefit from it.
So users who don't want to map any points, but still want the full featured version of Navizon, need to buy it.
But the money is not going in our pockets, it is going in the pockets of those who make Navizon possible, by mapping the wireless landscape wherever they go.
SetUp Instructions.........
Please uninstall the old one and search for Navimote in the market.
The new one is version 1.0.7.
When you start Navimote, click "menu".
It has the usual options (enable/disable, register token and manage account).
Under the "advanced" option you have "Reset network settings":
Use this is you can't be located - it will re-establish the connection with the server.
And you also have the new options:
Power mode:
High = Navimote will always attempt to use the GPS on, in order to collect data
Normal = Navimote will will attempt to use the GPS only when the phone is connected to an external power source. This makes sense for people who always connect the phone to a car charger when driving.
Navizon account:
Enter your Navizon username/password and you will accumulate points in your Navizon account when you collect data.
Sync:
Upload the data you have collected to the Navizon server.
Just like all other versions of Navimote, the collected cells/wifi or the number of rewarded points are not displayed on the screen - so you will have to check your rewards page on http://www.navizon.com if you want to see your points status. (You can use "manage account" to do this)
I recommend that the power mode is set to normal, and that the phone is connected to external power when you're in the car.
Upload the data every now and then (maybe once per day) and you'll see points accumulating in your account.
To collect as many points as possible, make sure that your phone is configured to let applications use the GPS, and also try to leave WiFi on when collecting.
(Power/profile managers may interfere with the GPS and the WiFi state, so if you use one of these please make sure it does not prevent Navimote from using the GPS and that it does not switch off WiFi.
I use a profile manager and have configured it to allow GPS use and switch WiFi on whenever the phone is connected to AC power. I've also configured Navimote with the "Normal" power mode and it works well.)
Sign Up Here!
Once signed up visit Android Market on your device and download Navimote. In settings you can input your username and password.
Happy earning.
EDIT: Works WorldWide!
potter1984 said:
Earn money with your phone through wifi and phone cell towers UK included.
Navizon have just released a new software version of Navimote (v1.07) for Android handsets.
Ever wondered how you could transform the miles you travel into cash in your account. Well, now you can with Navizon rewards.
When you use Navizon with a GPS device, every Wi-Fi access point and Cell tower that you pass by will be logged and turned into points on your account.
If they are discovered by you (If you are the first one to map them)
15 points for each cellular tower
3 points for each Wi-Fi access point
If they have already been mapped by someone else
(except in a few areas)
1 point for each Wi-Fi access point
2 points for each cellular tower
Once you have 10,000 points, you can redeem them for a reward, and $15 will be wired to your Paypal account (minus the Paypal fee in the amount of $0.29).
Note: You may also choose to redeem a reward for a free upgrade to Navizon Premium.
The idea is fairly simple: some users who have GPS enabled phones, or a standalone GPS device map the wireless landscape (ie. the location of Cell towers and Wi-Fi Access Points) wherever they go, so that other users who don’t have GPS will be able to use a positioning system that works independent of GPS.
Instead, location is achieved by triangulating those same Wi-Fi and/or Cellular signals, whose location is now known thanks to the "mappers."
Like in every community, there are the people who do the work and others who benefit from it.
So users who don't want to map any points, but still want the full featured version of Navizon, need to buy it.
But the money is not going in our pockets, it is going in the pockets of those who make Navizon possible, by mapping the wireless landscape wherever they go.
Sign Up Here!
Once signed up visit Android Market on your device and download Navimote. In settings you can input your username and password.
Happy earning
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is this only for uk? or usa as well.
Kush.Kush™ said:
is this only for uk? or usa as well.
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No its for the USA aswell sorry forgot to mention that
potter1984 said:
No its for the USA aswell sorry forgot to mention that
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lol iight did you get my message
Kush.Kush™ said:
lol iight did you get my message
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Yea thanks for that m8
Glad to have you onboard
Just to update have already started logging cell towers up, and have 4,526 points already within 3 hrs, This app is MINT!!
this stuff legit or is it hokie?
Sounds Hokie.
10000 towers thats 15 dollars for every tower in Arizona.
You'll never make 10,000 points at that rate, unless you seriously travel. And if you have the money for all of that traveling, what's 15 dollars to you?
This sounds like a good way for a company to trick a bunch of muppets into going out and field sweeping for radio sources, for them, instead of having to hire someone...
Is this each time you pass a tower you get points, or does it have to be "new" towers? So if I pass one, I can only get points for it once? Say, if I keep this on during commuting to work and back, I will only get points the first time I pass them, and then never again?
will this work in Australia?
When you pass already mapped towers, yes you still get points. Just not as much as the first time you map it.
Yes this app works world wide.
If you hit the navimote web site their faq will tell all on how it works.
And yes this is legal, the faq will tell you how the money is made
Also this app will benefit people who travel a lot in their jobs. Or very keen ramblers! Lol.
This program is great I have always used navizon or navimote.
Varking said:
Is this each time you pass a tower you get points, or does it have to be "new" towers? So if I pass one, I can only get points for it once? Say, if I keep this on during commuting to work and back, I will only get points the first time I pass them, and then never again?
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Think You owe me a Copy right appology!!!
Y you say??
Next time make your OWN post, dont just copy and paste, Its lazy, and just shows how intelligent your are, Ctrl + a, Ctrl + c, Ctrl + v.
Are you telling me thats all you can muster??
NOT COOL BRO NOT COOL.....................................
I tried this app, but just didn't understand how to see if you earned any points...After about a 2 hour drive, I went to sync my account and it said there was nothing to sync. I love the idea, just can't get it to work.
oMenaceTigero said:
I tried this app, but just didn't understand how to see if you earned any points...After about a 2 hour drive, I went to sync my account and it said there was nothing to sync. I love the idea, just can't get it to work.
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The sync on the app is not nesseccary the app automatically sends the info off!. The Sync option is their incase you have no data connection, so upload when you get home.
You can check the points you have earnt from the web interface, but it takes a few hours to show up on the site.
Check your account on the web, If you have set it up properly then the points will be their
Just an update....
i had had my First £15 back today!! Woop Woop, 2weeks 1 day from installing the app.
Hope everyone else will follow suit soon
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I have been living in home town with a nexus 5 as my daily driver for 4 month's but i experienced no error with my maps and gps location but two days ago i moved to a new city from then maps behaves in a wired manner, suppose if a ask for nearest bank or pizza hut it shows wrong locations even my gps in not working properly as when i move it doesn't move with me but for some time stays intact and then all of sudden catches my position, these error are just annoying as I'm new in city and makes traveling difficult..
Can someone tell me the cause of the error ...
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Well, it seems that your location fix isnt really working as intended. Now we have to see why.
Please recheck your Location Settings, how are they setup? Go to Settings > Location and check. Try to set to high-accuracy and test again. You need a working internet-connection too to fully make use of this though. And of course, make sure that GPS is turned on, but i probably wont have to tell you that
As a good alternative, depending on size of city at least, is to store the map on local storage. Maps has an option for this. There you can select an area to be accessable without Internet connection, maybe try to use that and see if it works better.
I'd also had this problem. I needed to re-check Location, but also needed to Agree (again) with Google Terms, before I could get Maps/Navigation to work.
I understand this is only tangential to phone security, but my phone is connected to the LAN and I know there are some great experts here.
Here's my situation: a few days ago I had some equipment installed that required wireless access. I had to give the installer my LAN password in order to set it up. After he finished and left the house I noticed he was still in his truck for more than 5 minutes and appeared to be using a laptop. My paranoia kicked in and I unplugged my modem.
My question is what's the worst could someone do on short notice with your LAN password? I've only noticed one oddity since then. I listen to SiriusXM streaming every day. Today it told me that I was listening on a different device (which I wasn't) and did I want to continue on my desktop. That's the only unusual thing I've noticed. Malwarebytes and Norton scans don't show anything. WinPatrol hasn't noted any new bootup programs.
I know I should have changed my LAN password immediately but I have probably more than 25 devices that connect to it and it's a major PITA to go to each one and change the connection password. I will do that today but I'm still wondering what a bad guy can do with my LAN password and SSID. I do live in a semi-rural area and a stranger would stand out immediately, so I'm not concerned with some sort of war driving event.
If someone knows of a better forum to post my questions I would appreciate that as well.
Thanks!
Windows 8.1
Apple Airport Express router
Bob Coxner said:
My question is what's the worst could someone do on short notice with your LAN password? I've only noticed one oddity since then. I listen to SiriusXM streaming every day. Today it told me that I was listening on a different device (which I wasn't) and did I want to continue on my desktop. That's the only unusual thing I've noticed. Malwarebytes and Norton scans don't show anything. WinPatrol hasn't noted any new bootup programs.
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You are talking about you´re WLAN password, right?
Yes. WLAN password.
Well, the worst thing I think is infecting one of you're device inside you're LAN or changing you're router configuration to allow access from outside.
If you're device are secure and up-to-date I don't think he could have done anything harmful (except downloading illegal things)
Worst case
If they came prepared and had everything set on their laptop beforehand they could set up a man in the middle attack on the router such that everything you get is also routed though them. Do not worry most websites use ssl to encrypt traffic which is mostly unbreakable on a well setup website. I wouldn't use anything from a "small website" only google Facebook twitter and the big name, they are reliably secure. He will still be able to see the sites but not the data. One thing to be careful of is that google directs searches inside the url so he will still be able to see searches and even which search page. He could have also setup a backdoor in the router so he can get in later and do more. If you want more pleas pm me with the router model so I can look into it. do not give me the external address or password I dont want that only the modle number.
Just theoretically this is the worst case scenario of five minutes. he would have to have everything ready beforehand and be skilled and type faster than most people but the mere possibility of this is why I got my own router sealed and set it up myself.