Infuse 4G in Canada with Gingerbread and 1080i video
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_infuse_4g_goes_to_canada_with_gingerbread_flavor-news-2766.php
As the title says... now is it possible to get that in my AT&T-branded Infuse 4G?
will be once the rogers infuse is released. 1080i actually has less information than 720p so it is well within the capabilities or the phone, that wouldnt surprise me at all if they added it.
What the, USA version only 720p? so canada version same rom . can we flash to the 2.3 gingerrbead ?
it should be as easy as getting a rom dump from a rogers subscriber and odin flashing it to this phone. 1080i isnt really better than 720p, especially if things are in motion. a sporting event would look betterin 720p while something stationary would look better in 1080i, 1080i is actually easier on the processor.
Where are you guys seeing that it says 1080i? The ad from Samsung says full HD, and the article specifically says 1080p. No where do I see 1080i mentioned.
i hope so. but full hd can mean many things. 720p and 1080i used to both mean full hd, now there is 1080p plus the att infuse was rumored to have 1080p recording for a long time. we will only know when rogers releases there version
720p and 1080i are considered hd but not full hd. 1080p is considered full hd. 1080i now adays typically means a resolution of 1366x768 as a slight improvement when compared to 720p's 1280x720. its not actually interlaced anymore, it was just a qualification for old crts that where interlaced.
The Jack of Clubs said:
720p and 1080i are considered hd but not full hd. 1080p is considered full hd. 1080i now adays typically means a resolution of 1366x768 as a slight improvement when compared to 720p's 1280x720. its not actually interlaced anymore, it was just a qualification for old crts that where interlaced.
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so what 1080i is just a nonsense number aimed at confused consumers? pardon me if im a little sceptical about the 1366x768 being called 1080i by any manufacturer, i have never heard that. but i will admit that manufacturers will mis lead you at every step of the way because they think you are too stupid to understand the facts. i was under the impression that 1080p tv's played 1080i signals by doubling the lines. i have seen 1366x768 tv's sold at walmart and they may have suport for a 1080i input but they dont typically advertise these as being 1080i. they may say hd or hd ready. but there usually isnt a sticker claiming 1080 resoulution.
i dont even know how interlaced is handled anymore. samsung, toshiba, and nvidia call 1080i that. i dont think it really has a place in todays displays or cameras.
well if the infuse from rogers does 1080p recording then that would be amazing. does rogers have a release schedule?
1080p will eat sonmuch SD card space and longer to upload on YouTube. But still nice tho
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so set it to 720p if you dont want it.
Frooty said:
Where are you guys seeing that it says 1080i? The ad from Samsung says full HD, and the article specifically says 1080p. No where do I see 1080i mentioned.
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Just a typo? the "i" and "p" are close together on the keyboard
1080p would great... just in case but 720p for most things.
Another 720p, 1080i, 1080p argument? I think this horse has been officially beaten to death, lol.
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Another 720p, 1080i, 1080p argument? I think this horse has been officially beaten to death, lol.
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seriously, who cares about video quality.. you already have 8mp..
let's hear more about gingerbread.
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I have been wondering why do these phone manufacturers and such try to use 'HD' on the names of their phones - their usually is nothing HD about it except for 720p video recording. If they claim it is HD, I would then like to at least see some kind of High Quality screen or maybe an HD resolution (or both)...or HD sound....something that really represents HD as we know it on our gaming consoles and televisions and youtube videos and such...
When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
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When using the MHL cable to output the phone's screen to the TV, The video is not nearly as crisp as it is when I play it back later on the computer. I assume this is because the device is showing the compressed video form on the device which is what is being output?
Is there any way to output a better quality version to the TV? (App, etc) Has anyone else felt the same way?
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I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
That's correct you have to manually change camcorder to 1080P mode.
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Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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Thanks! Yeah I am up to date on my resolution knowledge , and Yeah I guess it outputting it in HD, it just is a little jittery, and for fast moving objects (I was recording ping pong XD ) it looked much smoother when I pulled the file off and played it on the computer.
Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
Hoggles said:
I just picked up the MHL dongle last week. Works great! Love it!
I think VIDEOS I've shot on the Sensation look like 1080p/720p on my Plasma HDTV... to my eye at least. I assume that's what you're talking about....videos you've recorded or HD You Tube vids etc?
Are you for sure recording in HD? 1080p/720p?? I think by default, the Sensation is set to qHD res in the camcorder settings.
You may already know this, but for those who don't.....
The UI on the phone isn't going to be true HD on your HDTV, as the Sensations display is only qHD 960x540. 720p is 1280X720 and 1080p is of course 1920x1080....officially. There is NO compromise on the official HD resolution standard. It either is or isn't HD....qHD is a marketing term...it looks like true HD on mobile devices, but it's not truly HD.
As far as I can tell though.... it does indeed output true HD resolutions from media etc....but not the UI itself. Videos I've recorded look stunning on my plasma....the UI of course looks grainy.
Hope that helps somebody. If I misstated anything...please correct me
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qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
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qHD isn't actually marketed as HD... it's qHD because it's (q)uarter HD, as in 1/4 of the HD resolution. 1920 / 2 = 960, and 1080 / 2 = 540. Divide length and width each by 2, and the overall number of pixels gets divided by 4.
It's not just a marketing term.
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Correct...it is actually quarter HD, of course....hence the "q". What I meant by marketing term is that a vast majority of people out there see the "HD" and may think it's actually HD...when of course it's not.
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Where are you guys getting your MHL cables? Are they the official HTC ones?
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from the tmobileUS website under accessories
I’m going to be buying a new phone soon. I’ve been eyeing up the Galaxy S II but I thought I might as well wait and see what is announced this month. One thing that all top end rumoured phones have in common is a 720p display. I have to admit this alone has tempted me to wait. But then I got to thinking, aside from the ‘cool’ factor. What benefit in the real world will a 720p display bring us?
The two main advantages that I can see are improved PPI and the obvious advantage when playing 720p videos. But a higher PPI means more processing power, which in turn means lower battery life. Also from an admittedly purely lazy point of view it means having to zoom in further to be able to read text.
A 720p display will now mean that 480p videos on youtube and the like will be upscaled and won’t look as good. ‘Just choose the 720p option’ you say. Fine, so long as you’re on wifi. Until 4G hits and is widespread (which in the UK is going to take a while) it will mean longer waits and buffer issues.
Yes I’m nit picking but I’d genuinely like to hear your thoughts on the pros and cons of a 720p display. I know there will be many more I’ve missed.
i see it from 2 sides....
720p = really nice picture quality
720p bad for some apps/games, which might no longer run properly, unless fixed, or some how the hardware can auto adjust the resolution to stretch it to fit.
720p can be a bit of a pain, if some Apps/Games developer decide to use too small of a touch area, due the larger dot-pix available in the 720p area
that also means DVD quality or lower quality videos played on the 720p will look like blurry or smeared, that can be fixed with software/hardware correction, like games.
^^ All that.
Plus, I don't really see the need for a 720 screen that's around the 4" size. Do you really need pixels that small? They'll be smaller than photons if we carry on like this and then it'll be reality that'll have to catch up with our tech
Personally, I wouldn't hold back for purely that one feature, but who knows what else is round the corner. Get a phone and let it be the best for a few months and then slowly drop down the list. As everyone always says, there's always something better coming, and if you waited then you'd never get anything.
Incidentally, I do have the SGS2, and it is REALLY nice
well definitely 1080p will be around the corner as we already stepped into the 720p kingdom
so 1080p on a 4" display would not be a long wait, but it will really make you think, what's the point of cramming so much in such a little screen
i can see 1080p to be a normal thin on a 10" tablet, but on a phone... that's a bit much
i do hope they don't go beyond 720p on any screen smaller than 5"
imagine running Windows Vista/7 on 15" wide LCD at 1080 (there are many laptops that are actually like that) it's soooooo eye strain-ful, it literally kills the eyes
i always down set the resolution back to something more readable to not strain my eyes
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i always down set the resolution back to something more readable to not strain my eyes
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Do you need your reading glasses as well, so you can find your pipe and slippers?
i don't wear glasses, and i intent to keep it that way, reason why i prefer an easy reading, on 480 vs 720
on 720 i'll have to probably the the font size twice as big, to make it easily legible when you are in the car, bus/subway, or walking
no i don't get dizzy reading while doing any of the above
many people can't read if they are in a moving vehicle
probably due the same relevant issue about having to scan the text in a small device and straining your vision, while trying to keep an eye on the road and not crashing
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i don't wear glasses, and i intent to keep it that way, reason why i prefer an easy reading, on 480 vs 720
on 720 i'll have to probably the the font size twice as big, to make it easily legible when you are in the car, bus/subway, or walking
no i don't get dizzy reading while doing any of the above
many people can't read if they are in a moving vehicle
probably due the same relevant issue about having to scan the text in a small device and straining your vision, while trying to keep an eye on the road and not crashing
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I agree with you, therebisbreally no reason to go above 720p resolution on small smartphone devices. I myself notice my eyes begin to hurt after more than thirty minutes or so of heavy reading on my Sensation. Now I know my Sensation does not have 720p but I am just saying the size of the screen and the text on that screen is no doubt a strain on the human eye after extended reading done on the device. 1080p is definitely so,ethimg that should just make it to the larger tablets and not smartphones.
Oh and yes actually paying attention to the road while you are driving is a highly recommended activity lol.
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that also means DVD quality or lower quality videos played on the 720p will look like blurry or smeared, that can be fixed with software/hardware correction, like games.
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This is just plain wrong, low resolution video will look just as good on 720p displays.
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Maybe i miss-understood your question, but i am using the Galaxy SII
I never had any screen / resolution issues
Well,first off,let's not forget that Android supports changing the DPI in build.prop(I think-haven't bothered in a while).I don't think manufacturers will leave 220-240 dpi of the current devices on 720p devices,but they would rather pump it up,so that everything stays the same size,but is just crisper.That's just my thought though.
On another note,lower resolution videos won't look worse at all.Resolution in that aspect is irrelevant.The same way that you can play a 720p video on a 480p screen without problems,you can do the opposite just as well.Unless some manufacturer decides to f*ck it up with upscaling tricks and stuff that will defo make the image blurry and ugly.
The only really valid argument on the topic,in my opinion,is the possible lack of processing power,especially when it comes to GPUs.We even saw the Mali MP-400,the most powerful GPU on a PHONE (DON'T SAY ABOUT THE A5 IN THE iPAD!!!!) to date,struggle to keep up in the case of the Galaxy Note's resolution.If the next gen of SoCs doesn't improve quite a lot in that aspect,we'll see some performance drops for sure.Not to mention the worst thing,the losses of battery life in case that extra power is met.Not that I mind about battery life as long as it makes it through the day,but many many people do.
Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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progressive, opposed to the i of interlaced.
Technically 720i use half the vertical pixels for each frame.
Papi4baby said:
Do any of you guys know the p in 720p stands for?
It has nothing to do with resolution, which is what you are all trying to talk about.
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Yes man,we know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
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I was trying to find information whether or not the Nexus 5 shoots 4k video like the note 3??
Neither,Nexus 5 shooting on 1080p HD only!
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-5705.php
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Neither,Nexus 5 shooting on 1080p HD only!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-5705.php
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Thanks for the response.... that sucks that nexus 5 cant shoot 4k.
Doesn't really suck that much, we don't have 4K TVs yet. At least most of us. If you can afford a 4K TV then you can afford a device that records 4K.
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Thanks for the response.... that sucks that nexus 5 cant shoot 4k.
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Why on earth would you need to shoot 4k video with a cell phone?
agree....
In a few years it'll be a worthwhile feature, but currently I really can't see the point!
Why record something in a resolution that can't be displayed on the vast, vast majority of screens around!?
Dan1909 said:
In a few years it'll be a worthwhile feature, but currently I really can't see the point!
Why record something in a resolution that can't be displayed on the vast, vast majority of screens around!?
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umm 4k TV prices are getting reasonable enough that i will be purchasing one within the next year. I just would like to have something to display of my 4k tv
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Why on earth would you need to shoot 4k video with a cell phone?
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to play on a 4k tv
ljesh said:
Doesn't really suck that much, we don't have 4K TVs yet. At least most of us. If you can afford a 4K TV then you can afford a device that records 4K.
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Are you calling everyone that bought a Nexus cheap???????????
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umm 4k TV prices are getting reasonable enough that i will be purchasing one within the next year. I just would like to have something to display of my 4k tv
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Buy a note 3. It's the only phone that can shoot in 4k.
Re: the Note 3, it's kind of stupid for a device that supports 4k video recording not to include OIS. It's the sort of gee-whiz feature with limited utility that Samsung is so fond of, but it won't be genuinely useful until 4k TVs are mainstream.
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Are you calling everyone that bought a Nexus cheap???????????
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No, only you. I mean, you can afford 4K TV. You didn't get a phone that records 4K.
Guys, the shame is not that Nexus 5 doesn't record 4K videos, but that it doesn't record 1080p (or even 720p) videos at 60 FPS.
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No, only you. I mean, you can afford 4K TV. You didn't get a phone that records 4K.
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ok thanks for calling me cheap!
Just saw your signature, you need drop box space. lol Prostitute much
Also with over 600 posts and only 17 thanks, it shows your opinion is worthless in XDA. Thanks anyways
So Nexus 5 has no 4k Recording capability, I wonder what it takes to shoot 4k:
-is it the processor
- optical lens
- software
or something else?
Here, lets not make this anymore "xHD" devices with crappy bitrates please. Anthing can capture in 4K but if the bitrate is crap then the video will look like ****. There's no phone today that can fully utilized 4K bandwidth as their pokey CPUs couldn't keep up. Hell my 2Ghz Core I3 laptop has a tough time playing real 4K and you are gonna try and insinuate that a mobile CPU with slow NAND as a backup can record and process 4K video?
Right right.... :silly:
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Just saw your signature, you need drop box space. lol Prostitute much
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I can't afford more gigs.
shotta35 said:
Here, lets not make this anymore "xHD" devices with crappy bitrates please. Anthing can capture in 4K but if the bitrate is crap then the video will look like ****. There's no phone today that can fully utilized 4K bandwidth as their pokey CPUs couldn't keep up. Hell my 2Ghz Core I3 laptop has a tough time playing real 4K and you are gonna try and insinuate that a mobile CPU with slow NAND as a backup can record and process 4K video?
Right right.... :silly:
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Note 3 4k video looks better then some 1080p blu ray movies. So 4k on a mobile is still substantially better then 1080p shooting on a mobiel device. Just saying
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Guys, the shame is not that Nexus 5 doesn't record 4K videos, but that it doesn't record 1080p (or even 720p) videos at 60 FPS.
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This. baby steps. 4k is at least 5 years away from becoming mainstream and phones will likely be on the trail end of that adoption. Let's go ahead and hit standard HD video spec before we get all up in arms about a video format that isn't feasibly useful on such limited storage with very few outlets for playback
Which video setting is best?
Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions
UHD for Ultra HD
DCI for Digital Cinema Initiative
I could be wrong but I believe uhd is 30fps and DCI is 24fps. So for highest quality, choose uhd.
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4k on 1080p TV's will look sharper (in a sense) as the picture is scaled to 1/4.
If the phone had true 1080p @60fps with sound, then that would be the best recording format..
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Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
ruvy01 said:
Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
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^^^This
It's an ever growing problem that manufacturers are incorrectly marketing UHD as 4k when it isn't actually 4k at all.
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But there IS 4k on phones...
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I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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He's talking about displays. Obviously. Because look at the post he's quoting.
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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This is exactly how I see it. However I'm still recording in 1080p. Most of the stuff I film isn't worth storing, so 1080p is fine.
If I would go for 4k I would choose UHD as this is the standard for TV. DCI is true 4k but only used for cinematic recording, so I guess this means black borders on your 4k TV.
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zephiK said:
Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
Btw, right now UHD seems to be broken.
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GTCC said:
I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
timmaaa said:
That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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Strictly resolution wise I see no difference. You may see other differences in terms of brightness and color reproduction but you can get that on newer or higher end 1080p displays.
BTW, the article was updated in May 2014.
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
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I take it you own a 4K TV?